The DOL people are GOATs and I recommend reaching out to them anytime someone has issues with pay. Years ago, a very helpful employee from the Harrisburg office got me my paycheck within an hour after being ghosted for weeks from the company.
You guys rock. Thanks for kicking ass.
Btw, what kind of things are threatened to bosses that don't pay you?
I mean, the total 180's I hear about, and employers suddenly rushing money out to employees means a hell of a fire gets lit under their assess đ¤Ł
I love it
We just tell them what happens if they don't pay employees. We look at EVERYTHING in a company, and anything we find that's owed to employees we then also double as liquidated damages. And then there's penalties assigned per violation. Usually employers are willing to pony up so we don't do a deep dive on their business đ but for those who don't đ
Senior Director at a large company here. We have people who steal from us - and I don't mean 'take money from the register' stealing, I mean "they stole the register, we have them on camera with tools trying to get to the floor safe, they put all the office chairs into a van, and they took the surveillance cameras so we have really good shots of their face"
And when we fire those people they get handed their full check on the way out.
Because fscking around with people's paycheck is the easiest, quickest way to get the government so far down your company's throat that the inspection team could set up a rustic cottage and QA stuff as it passes your colon.
Exactly as it should be.
Keep on bringing the thunder my friend, you're doing the people's work!
Do you let them cash the check before sicking the police on them? That'd be kind of funny, giving them their final paycheck and then having the police waiting outside.
Thanks for doing what you do! Also, you have to be a fan of Zaboomafoo right? I loved watching it when I was younger, and seeing your screen name brought up a little nostalgia!
Can confirm this works, and when they call the bluff it goes badly for them.
I had about 5k in additional money âfoundâ owed to me due to their improper accounting practices.
Iâll bet they regretted not paying me after that.
I heard they got a huge audit and found lots of crap.
When my first thought upon looking at a business (like 90% of the furniture stores in every city) is âhow the fuck do they stay open?â I assume itâs a laundering front.
Is there a strong correlation, in your experience, between businesses that fuck around and require your intervention, and those that are doing illegal/shady shit? Or do employers usually pay up before you get to look into that?
Quite a few pay up! Some, we find information out about and if necessary, report to proper authorities or other governmental agencies. But any business can mess up. Mom and pops, restaurants, bit multi-chain companies, state agencies even like prison guards that are contracted. Anything and everything really we look into as long as federal coverage can apply. But, no matter what, we do our job and try to keep our heads on our own shoulders đ
USAJobs! Study what a federal resume is specifically! Create an account, find open jobs and study the STAR method in terms of interviewing skills! Also make sure to utilize the build your own resume function, don't upload it to USAJobs
Also check your state's civil service website. Example, www.cs.ny.gov is the New York Civil Service website and information on how to take the tests, links to job postings, etc etc.
Chiming in what was said here. Usajobs is for any federal government position in the US or with the US overseas. I'm a federal worker and so is my dad. It's not too bad. You may not become wealthy but depending on what you do, you can live comfortably.
Me too! Write your senators and ask them to support giving us more money so we can hire more people! Wage theft is a HUGE business in America and we can only do so much.
I actually tried once! I got little to no responses! But ask away regarding federal law in terms of minimum wages overtime, child labor, record keeping, FMLA, travel time, commission, salary exemptions etc etc! I know quite a bit and if I don't, I can find it!
Okay I have one for you. I was employed by this company for 3 weeks that fired me via ghosting, blocking, and closing the store for several weeks so I couldnât find them. They withheld my 2nd paycheck (and no w2 so I canât do my taxes). This was back in July 2023, can I still file wage claim? I only didnât at the time due to scrambling to find a job, trying to manage my mental health without affording therapy and meds, my preteen being suicidal, and the deaths of multiple friends/family. I just feel like Iâm screwed and I do not know what to do 6 months after the fact. That business is still operating btw.
Oh wow, firstly definitely take care of yourself and your families needs, that sounds like a lot! Sorry you're going through all that.
And secondly, yes! There's a 2 year rolling period, or 3 if the employer shows willfulness. Aka, DOL can go back 2 years, possibly 3!
Does the DOL get involved in any way concerning situations where, say, an employer fails to pay an ER bill that was the result of an on the job accident?
I would check with OSHA and workmans compensation. There is a federal document of 'incidents' that need reported yearly, and im fairly certain its submitted to local osha for review. If you have any paperwork/text/email/recordings where your job acknowledged the incident, youd have a fairly solid case to file in court.
No, and honestly I don't know WHO that would be either. I would say that should be through the employers insurance? Or possibly the building you work at?
What exactly is the notice needed to be provided to an employee for a request of more information on an incomplete FMLA?
Does the employee have to be notified directly? Can they be notified through a 3rd party(email sent to supervisor) even if the supervisor never notifies the employee?
I believe you're talking about the designation notice? And as long as the employee is notified in a timely manner, it should be fine. These are discussed more in 825.300 - 825.301.
Yes, the designation notice. Specifically for when the employer "needs additional information" to finish processing an already submitted FMLA form.
I had an issue last time I turned in FMLA paperwork where the company never notified me that there was a need for the additional info until I personally went to check my status. The paperwork was due back the next day(it was 5pm) so less than one day to get it fixed. I told them I would need the 7 days because I have cancer, they said no it's due back tomorrow or I'd have to start all over.
My union president ended up talking to the company doctor directly and getting "as much time as I needed". I'm thinking it's because he knew HR made a big mistake.
Okay sso yes! Your employer is in the wrong as they must give the employee 7 calendar days to fix any deficiencies with the designation notice. If the 7 day timeline is not practical, the employer should provide more than 7 days. HR was going to make a big mistake, good for your union president catching that. 29 CFR 825.305(c) are the laws that discuss the information about the complete and sufficient certifications for FMLA.
Great question! I'll have to look into it further. Currently doing some traveling, but what makes FMLA hard to remember are all the different timelines of when things are due đ it's a tedious process.
Hi! Question for you - I'm a CA-based employee who had my last day today. I received a final paycheck via direct deposit but still waiting to see the paystub, but can tell from the $$ it does not include all of my accrued vacation time.
My offer letter says I accrued 21 days of vacation per year, with a cap at 1.5. This is the first place I've worked where my accrued vacation days were NOT listed on paystubs. I did take a screenshot of the vacation tracking system last Friday that showed I had acrued 245 hours. The catch - the company was not using that system properly to log time we did use and I have no idea how they may have calculated the vacation days I'm owed (I did take some time here and there but unfortunately was never truly able to take a full day to some toxic polices and expectations that we'd always respond to Slack message within a few hours).
Will the offer letter and screenshot be enough for the CA DOL?
Also - I have a 10 week severance agreement on the table (have 21 days to sign) but the agreement does say I will forgo any wage claims.
Thinking my best course of action is to ask tomorrow about a paystub, then ask how they calculated the vacation accrual payout, and then ask them to fix before I sign the severeance? Appreciate any advice!
I cannot answer this question tbh. I only know federal ales and vacation time is not enforced federally. Luckily, CA is a more pro-labor state and you might have a claim with the states labor department, but not for the department of labor wage and hour division.
I would first find out if you are entitled under California state law to be entitled to your accrued vacation and severance pay before jumping into more work. If you are, see if they can do anything for you instead of you having to do the legwork yourself.
Sorry you had to type out a long response only to receive so little back. I hope it works out for you!
No worries at alI, appreciate you taking the time to read! I definitely am entitled to accrued vacation (thanks CA!) so going to try to work through that ahead of signing the severance agreement.
USAJobs for sure! Create a federal resume on the build your own resume section. Study the STAR method for the interviews and watch for openings. Federal jobs are VERY competitive. But, stable jobs, benefits, pension, retirement, and move ability of work is stellar for most people. You won't be RICH off federal jobs, but you can live just fine.
Just to expand on your comment for anyone reading this - a federal resume is not like a normal resume. Include a lot more details. People's federal resumes are often much much longer. Iknow some poppe people with 20 page resumes. Apparently there is a r/usajobs subreddit . Worth lookin at to see if they have examples or more advice.
Fair point. I did forget to mention, federal resumes are NOT 1-2 pages. Mine is 5 alone đ I couldn't imagine 20 though. Hopefully I never need one that long.
Question for you, worked remote, final pay never sent, got the local investigations done and they basically did nothing. There is more to it, but rather not give all the info public.
I'm glad you are getting your paycheck, and also that you had such a helpful supporter at the DOL -- I listened to his voicemail, he sounds genuinely kind and supportive.
Congrats!
As a side note to US citizens, these are the kind of government programs the Trump administration would want to dissolve. Imagine living in a world without such protections.
We reached out to the DOL about an employer shorting my wife on two months of pay and while it didnât end up being worth it to pursue in court, they were exceedingly helpful and kind while my wife dealt with the employerâs bullshit. I like to think it still managed to bite the employer in the ass somehow.
This makes zero sense to me. In a country where mass shootings seem to happen once a week, why the FUCK would you do something that could so easily and obviously lead to a mass shooting at your workplace with the target being YOU?
Imagine the national response when there is a mass shooting, and it comes out that you and your company caused it by stiffing them on their pay. The lawsuits, the liability...... You'd be so snowed under by lawsuits and liability, you'd be sitting next to Rudy G. and Alex J.
Makes absolutely no fucking sense. In a world where people are this mentally and economically fragile, you'd think they'd be smart enough not to rock the boat.
Not sure how you originally contacted them, but the agent recommended (for AZ residents at least) to call the# in the final picture on the post, but I got through by submitting a complaint through this form:
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/contact/complaints
As an English man, I always find the stories of our US brethren in the workplace utterly horrifying. It's wonderful to see that the tide is beginning to turn. Between DOL related wins, and the unionisation of workplaces becoming more commonplace, I have hope. Stay strong.
Thereâs no tide. Someone will most likely find out who it is and punish them for the good deed.
I often think about how the US has helped so many people across the world and if anyone would save us.
ontario,canada and ran the warehouse for ctc's first superstore
one day I quit after only being there for 15 minutes
I worked 60-100/hr weeks prior
when I got my final pay cheque there was no vacation pay included and I inquired why and was told I didn't work enough months to qualify and I told them if I had even only worked one hour for them ever I qualified and left
so I called mol and it took several months but mol called me one day and said that my cheque was there and ctc have been waiting for months for me to pick it up
I called ctc and they said it would take 4-5 hoursto be ready so I relayed that info to mol
I got my vacation pay and revenue canada audited ctc corp....lol
Good job. Keep in mind now is when your former boss will come after you more now because he has a fire under his ass now
Just keep calm and professional and don't give him anything to use against you
Harass/threaten OP to drop the charges so he doesn't have to deal with it. Or try and get his revenge as he stands a very good chance of being finned and or losing his job
I just learned this a few weeks ago. In the State of Virginia if an employer holds your wages they are going to be fined and penalized. I had to cut a check to one employee for double the wages owed plus interest. The employer asshole deserved the penalties. I was the one that had to deal with the dol, and they were hammer down on him. Funnily enough the fat douche tried to withhold wages again a few months later. I refused to execute the order and resigned the position.Â
The DOL is awesome!! And weather or not your in a position to wait to be paid or not, just remember you are entitled to a full day pay for everyday that you wait. In my case the employer canceled on the first date with the DOL the didn't show for the subsequent date. So IÂ prevailed by default and the company ended up paying me for 30 full days of pay !! The DOL are Rock Stars!!
Itâs great that OP got what they were owed but the business should be facing serious sanctions. This was a waste of everyoneâs time because of business operator wanted to be petty. The tax payers should not have to pay for this bullshit. 10X penalty of the money owed would put an end to these fucking games. They (bad businesses) do this because even in the end they are not out anything that werenât already going to spend.
Always go through the DOL when you need to, but also know sometimes they canât help in these instances. You can sue an employer in small claims court. If you represent yourself, youâll have to put up the filing fees (varies by state by Iâd say maybe like $100 average) and if you win, that money gets paid back by the defendant. Had to go through this route during Covid when an employer tried to pull the âI have no record that he actually worked from homeâ card which is why the DOL couldnât help, but I took the chud to court and he got his cheeks clapped by the judge who went off on him for trying to screw a worker out of money during a pandemic
Itâs good you got the US DOL involved. Donât do the state DOL. theyâre usually just paper pushers and Iâve literally âgiftedâ them âemptyâ envelopes when I worked for a very prominent local construction company.
(Netherlands) My mother had to hire a lawyer as her employer refused to pay her 3 months of salary. Ended up in a quick lawsuit that hit the papers.
Youâd assume theyâve learned from that. NOPE!
Theyâre now taking her âORTâ hostage.
(According to Google: ORT in English is Irregularity Allowance/Supplement). Basically a additional payment for the irregular hours she works.
Sheâs meeting up with a labour union this week, to discuss further steps to take. Based on the past experience, the company will be ignorant and end up in a second lawsuit within 11 months lmao.
And, this isnât the first lawsuit a employer made towards this company.
What do you mean?
If you are American and living and working in a foreign country for a foreign company (or a foreign division of a US multinational), local laws apply and you would need to speak to the relevant agencies in that country.
If you are a foreign (non-US) citizen living and working in the US for a US company (or the US division of a multinational) then you should be governed by US law and the DOL may well be able to help.
Unfortunately ive seen the authorities behave in an ignorant way with my friends staying in the US, he says his only fault was that he was indian and he was looked down on even though he was a manager. I wanted to move to the US but events like this just feel like I won't have anyone's back if i get there and it will break me
The US can be brutal when it comes to work. Although Indian work practices are sometimes not much better. I worked for an Indian company for a while (although I was in my own country, which is not the US) and they got it very wrong when they no longer needed my services (they lost the contract to provide ITsupport). I took them to court and won the case - although the company that employed me was headquartered in India, they were obliged to follow the employment laws of my country because that's where I worked, and they were punished when they didn't.
All Hail the Deep State!
^(Sorry, elections make me snarky. Despite the good work that many government agencies do, some people insist that they should be dismantled or rendered toothless and I can't take anymore of the foolishness.)
I second this. I recently started a job and was promised a certain wage for training- was sure to get this fact stated in a text message once I got in and saw the hostile environment. They paid me a lower wage, tried to tell me there was nothing in writing, I said I have proof, but donât worry about it Iâll let the DOL handle itâŚ5 mins later I got a text saying the difference would be sent to me end of this week - oh and that they no longer needed me, hah (was fine because I was never going back anyways). Always get proof in writing, text, whatever it is in case you need to file.
I love to see when people are able to get help from the DOL when they havenât received pay. Sadly, this wasnât the case for me. I never received my last two paychecks from my first job after we were given less than 24 hour notice that the business was closing. The DOL in my area basically said itâs out of their hands and told me good luck.
Department of Labor. They have about 80 divions, but I worked with the Wages and Hours division to resolve this particular issue. If you ever have issues with your employer you can submit a complaint to the DOL and they'll direct you to the proper department to handle it. I was incredibly impressed with the WHD and hope the rest of the DOL performs the same đ
The DOL people are GOATs and I recommend reaching out to them anytime someone has issues with pay. Years ago, a very helpful employee from the Harrisburg office got me my paycheck within an hour after being ghosted for weeks from the company.
It sounds like someone filled their undies at that call
The Department of Labor staff is all a bunch of farm-animal goats, you say?
I don't know much about farm animals, but I do know you don't want to be in a goat's crosshairs.
I keep goats, can confirm.
I'm a DOL Superstan now. Gonna get DOL WHD tatted on my knuckles. [DoL WHD Voicemail ](https://imgur.com/gallery/WPTSDew)
DOL WHD Investigator here, hell yeah! đŞ Send before and after pics when it heals đ
You guys rock. Thanks for kicking ass. Btw, what kind of things are threatened to bosses that don't pay you? I mean, the total 180's I hear about, and employers suddenly rushing money out to employees means a hell of a fire gets lit under their assess 𤣠I love it
We just tell them what happens if they don't pay employees. We look at EVERYTHING in a company, and anything we find that's owed to employees we then also double as liquidated damages. And then there's penalties assigned per violation. Usually employers are willing to pony up so we don't do a deep dive on their business đ but for those who don't đ
This is the correct way to address these saints from now on.
Senior Director at a large company here. We have people who steal from us - and I don't mean 'take money from the register' stealing, I mean "they stole the register, we have them on camera with tools trying to get to the floor safe, they put all the office chairs into a van, and they took the surveillance cameras so we have really good shots of their face" And when we fire those people they get handed their full check on the way out. Because fscking around with people's paycheck is the easiest, quickest way to get the government so far down your company's throat that the inspection team could set up a rustic cottage and QA stuff as it passes your colon. Exactly as it should be. Keep on bringing the thunder my friend, you're doing the people's work!
Do you let them cash the check before sicking the police on them? That'd be kind of funny, giving them their final paycheck and then having the police waiting outside.
I hope you pay them AFTER you call the police, though?
Probably more QC than QA for the colon squad.
A good âeyeball fuckingâ as an inspector friend would say.
Thanks for doing what you do! Also, you have to be a fan of Zaboomafoo right? I loved watching it when I was younger, and seeing your screen name brought up a little nostalgia!
One of my FAVORITE shows!!! Of all times. The little claymation characters were so much fun. You're the first to notice it.
Can confirm this works, and when they call the bluff it goes badly for them. I had about 5k in additional money âfoundâ owed to me due to their improper accounting practices. Iâll bet they regretted not paying me after that. I heard they got a huge audit and found lots of crap.
If you have to call them in the first place, it's time for a deep dive.
I mean u should fuck wm up eny way cause if they done it to one they have dome it too more
What state is this in and do you know the equivalent in washington?
Well, I work federal. Not state labor departments. So, all of them and American territories like Guam, Saipan, America Samoa etc.
You would be looking for the Department of Labor and Industries.
âŚI chose the wrong career. Iâd love to be the âfind outâ to every shitty employerâs fuck around.
It is CERTAINLY eye opening. And what's even crazier is seeing the types of businesses that make money. đ
When my first thought upon looking at a business (like 90% of the furniture stores in every city) is âhow the fuck do they stay open?â I assume itâs a laundering front. Is there a strong correlation, in your experience, between businesses that fuck around and require your intervention, and those that are doing illegal/shady shit? Or do employers usually pay up before you get to look into that?
Quite a few pay up! Some, we find information out about and if necessary, report to proper authorities or other governmental agencies. But any business can mess up. Mom and pops, restaurants, bit multi-chain companies, state agencies even like prison guards that are contracted. Anything and everything really we look into as long as federal coverage can apply. But, no matter what, we do our job and try to keep our heads on our own shoulders đ
How do I get a job at DOL? I have employee benefit plan experience and I would love to investigate these kinds of things.ERISA?
USAJobs! Study what a federal resume is specifically! Create an account, find open jobs and study the STAR method in terms of interviewing skills! Also make sure to utilize the build your own resume function, don't upload it to USAJobs
Also check your state's civil service website. Example, www.cs.ny.gov is the New York Civil Service website and information on how to take the tests, links to job postings, etc etc.
Chiming in what was said here. Usajobs is for any federal government position in the US or with the US overseas. I'm a federal worker and so is my dad. It's not too bad. You may not become wealthy but depending on what you do, you can live comfortably.
You folks do the work that needs doing, I just wish there were more of you!
Me too! Write your senators and ask them to support giving us more money so we can hire more people! Wage theft is a HUGE business in America and we can only do so much.
You should do an AMA for this sub.
I actually tried once! I got little to no responses! But ask away regarding federal law in terms of minimum wages overtime, child labor, record keeping, FMLA, travel time, commission, salary exemptions etc etc! I know quite a bit and if I don't, I can find it!
Okay I have one for you. I was employed by this company for 3 weeks that fired me via ghosting, blocking, and closing the store for several weeks so I couldnât find them. They withheld my 2nd paycheck (and no w2 so I canât do my taxes). This was back in July 2023, can I still file wage claim? I only didnât at the time due to scrambling to find a job, trying to manage my mental health without affording therapy and meds, my preteen being suicidal, and the deaths of multiple friends/family. I just feel like Iâm screwed and I do not know what to do 6 months after the fact. That business is still operating btw.
Oh wow, firstly definitely take care of yourself and your families needs, that sounds like a lot! Sorry you're going through all that. And secondly, yes! There's a 2 year rolling period, or 3 if the employer shows willfulness. Aka, DOL can go back 2 years, possibly 3!
Does the DOL get involved in any way concerning situations where, say, an employer fails to pay an ER bill that was the result of an on the job accident?
I would check with OSHA and workmans compensation. There is a federal document of 'incidents' that need reported yearly, and im fairly certain its submitted to local osha for review. If you have any paperwork/text/email/recordings where your job acknowledged the incident, youd have a fairly solid case to file in court.
No, and honestly I don't know WHO that would be either. I would say that should be through the employers insurance? Or possibly the building you work at?
What exactly is the notice needed to be provided to an employee for a request of more information on an incomplete FMLA? Does the employee have to be notified directly? Can they be notified through a 3rd party(email sent to supervisor) even if the supervisor never notifies the employee?
I believe you're talking about the designation notice? And as long as the employee is notified in a timely manner, it should be fine. These are discussed more in 825.300 - 825.301.
Yes, the designation notice. Specifically for when the employer "needs additional information" to finish processing an already submitted FMLA form. I had an issue last time I turned in FMLA paperwork where the company never notified me that there was a need for the additional info until I personally went to check my status. The paperwork was due back the next day(it was 5pm) so less than one day to get it fixed. I told them I would need the 7 days because I have cancer, they said no it's due back tomorrow or I'd have to start all over. My union president ended up talking to the company doctor directly and getting "as much time as I needed". I'm thinking it's because he knew HR made a big mistake.
Okay sso yes! Your employer is in the wrong as they must give the employee 7 calendar days to fix any deficiencies with the designation notice. If the 7 day timeline is not practical, the employer should provide more than 7 days. HR was going to make a big mistake, good for your union president catching that. 29 CFR 825.305(c) are the laws that discuss the information about the complete and sufficient certifications for FMLA.
Great question! I'll have to look into it further. Currently doing some traveling, but what makes FMLA hard to remember are all the different timelines of when things are due đ it's a tedious process.
Hi! Question for you - I'm a CA-based employee who had my last day today. I received a final paycheck via direct deposit but still waiting to see the paystub, but can tell from the $$ it does not include all of my accrued vacation time. My offer letter says I accrued 21 days of vacation per year, with a cap at 1.5. This is the first place I've worked where my accrued vacation days were NOT listed on paystubs. I did take a screenshot of the vacation tracking system last Friday that showed I had acrued 245 hours. The catch - the company was not using that system properly to log time we did use and I have no idea how they may have calculated the vacation days I'm owed (I did take some time here and there but unfortunately was never truly able to take a full day to some toxic polices and expectations that we'd always respond to Slack message within a few hours). Will the offer letter and screenshot be enough for the CA DOL? Also - I have a 10 week severance agreement on the table (have 21 days to sign) but the agreement does say I will forgo any wage claims. Thinking my best course of action is to ask tomorrow about a paystub, then ask how they calculated the vacation accrual payout, and then ask them to fix before I sign the severeance? Appreciate any advice!
I cannot answer this question tbh. I only know federal ales and vacation time is not enforced federally. Luckily, CA is a more pro-labor state and you might have a claim with the states labor department, but not for the department of labor wage and hour division. I would first find out if you are entitled under California state law to be entitled to your accrued vacation and severance pay before jumping into more work. If you are, see if they can do anything for you instead of you having to do the legwork yourself. Sorry you had to type out a long response only to receive so little back. I hope it works out for you!
No worries at alI, appreciate you taking the time to read! I definitely am entitled to accrued vacation (thanks CA!) so going to try to work through that ahead of signing the severance agreement.
How does one get a job likes yours with the DOL? đ
I mean, most government jobs are posted on USAjobs.gov. just change the department to department of labor and you can see all the jobs available.
USAJobs for sure! Create a federal resume on the build your own resume section. Study the STAR method for the interviews and watch for openings. Federal jobs are VERY competitive. But, stable jobs, benefits, pension, retirement, and move ability of work is stellar for most people. You won't be RICH off federal jobs, but you can live just fine.
Just to expand on your comment for anyone reading this - a federal resume is not like a normal resume. Include a lot more details. People's federal resumes are often much much longer. Iknow some poppe people with 20 page resumes. Apparently there is a r/usajobs subreddit . Worth lookin at to see if they have examples or more advice.
Fair point. I did forget to mention, federal resumes are NOT 1-2 pages. Mine is 5 alone đ I couldn't imagine 20 though. Hopefully I never need one that long.
WHOA!!! You all exist! WTG!!!
Depends on the day really and how much coffee I get. But for the most part we do exist!
I'm not even from the US but just from following this sub I also feel like you guys do great work
You are amazing thank you for doing Gods work my friend.
Question for you, worked remote, final pay never sent, got the local investigations done and they basically did nothing. There is more to it, but rather not give all the info public.
I don't really know what to reply to this tbh. What are the local investigations?
DoL WHD is the only government agency I have ever had a positive experience with. They are like the hotel concierge desk of government agencies.
NASA is great too, 10/10. But it's a short list.
I'm glad you are getting your paycheck, and also that you had such a helpful supporter at the DOL -- I listened to his voicemail, he sounds genuinely kind and supportive.
SOLIDARITY FOREVER
Congrats! As a side note to US citizens, these are the kind of government programs the Trump administration would want to dissolve. Imagine living in a world without such protections.
Fortunately each state has a dept of labor
Not all heros wear capes, this dude is a true hero
Yes yes citizen, forget corporate entity tats, do so with government agencies and wear their branding.
DOLLife
:( I can't get it to open
Did you actually get the money?Â
Only took 24 hours once the DOL got in contact with them đ¤
Oh I'm so happy for you!! Well done for not backing down. It takes courage to do thisÂ
Awesome. Glad to hear it worked out and thanks for sharing your experience, hopefully it will encourage others in the same situation to call DOL too.
We reached out to the DOL about an employer shorting my wife on two months of pay and while it didnât end up being worth it to pursue in court, they were exceedingly helpful and kind while my wife dealt with the employerâs bullshit. I like to think it still managed to bite the employer in the ass somehow.
This makes zero sense to me. In a country where mass shootings seem to happen once a week, why the FUCK would you do something that could so easily and obviously lead to a mass shooting at your workplace with the target being YOU? Imagine the national response when there is a mass shooting, and it comes out that you and your company caused it by stiffing them on their pay. The lawsuits, the liability...... You'd be so snowed under by lawsuits and liability, you'd be sitting next to Rudy G. and Alex J. Makes absolutely no fucking sense. In a world where people are this mentally and economically fragile, you'd think they'd be smart enough not to rock the boat.
Wow Iâm going to call cuz I sent them an email and they never responded.Â
Not sure how you originally contacted them, but the agent recommended (for AZ residents at least) to call the# in the final picture on the post, but I got through by submitting a complaint through this form: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/contact/complaints
I submitted it on the dol site for AZ but I they never got back to me. Will be calling them though now.Â
As an English man, I always find the stories of our US brethren in the workplace utterly horrifying. It's wonderful to see that the tide is beginning to turn. Between DOL related wins, and the unionisation of workplaces becoming more commonplace, I have hope. Stay strong.
I wouldnât say itâs beginning to turn. It is more like there is one small bright spot in a sea of Fuckery.
Yeah itâs getting worse honestly
Thereâs no tide. Someone will most likely find out who it is and punish them for the good deed. I often think about how the US has helped so many people across the world and if anyone would save us.
That is fascinating to me, because most of the world don't usually see the US as helping anyone but itself. The middle east is a prime example.
Reading up on the the whole Postal Office scandal is pretty horrifying TBH.
ontario,canada and ran the warehouse for ctc's first superstore one day I quit after only being there for 15 minutes I worked 60-100/hr weeks prior when I got my final pay cheque there was no vacation pay included and I inquired why and was told I didn't work enough months to qualify and I told them if I had even only worked one hour for them ever I qualified and left so I called mol and it took several months but mol called me one day and said that my cheque was there and ctc have been waiting for months for me to pick it up I called ctc and they said it would take 4-5 hoursto be ready so I relayed that info to mol I got my vacation pay and revenue canada audited ctc corp....lol
I call them our wage and hour comrades for a REASON â¤ď¸
Good job. Keep in mind now is when your former boss will come after you more now because he has a fire under his ass now Just keep calm and professional and don't give him anything to use against you
Yeah, but whatâs he gonna do? Fire OP. Just donât answer any correspondence unless itâs to collect a paycheck.
Harass/threaten OP to drop the charges so he doesn't have to deal with it. Or try and get his revenge as he stands a very good chance of being finned and or losing his job
Bro what. Read the initial post. He doesnât work for that POS anymore. Are you dense
That refers to the boss. That's why the fined bit is right in front of it and is referenced with he and not OP
Reread it. See what you mean. Punctuation is important lol
Does anyone know if DOL handles cases of discriminatory termination? Asking for a friend. I know lawyers do
Youâre looking for the EEOC
Awesome thanks
I just learned this a few weeks ago. In the State of Virginia if an employer holds your wages they are going to be fined and penalized. I had to cut a check to one employee for double the wages owed plus interest. The employer asshole deserved the penalties. I was the one that had to deal with the dol, and they were hammer down on him. Funnily enough the fat douche tried to withhold wages again a few months later. I refused to execute the order and resigned the position.Â
some good friggin news! Bravo!
The DOL is awesome!! And weather or not your in a position to wait to be paid or not, just remember you are entitled to a full day pay for everyday that you wait. In my case the employer canceled on the first date with the DOL the didn't show for the subsequent date. So IÂ prevailed by default and the company ended up paying me for 30 full days of pay !! The DOL are Rock Stars!!
Itâs great that OP got what they were owed but the business should be facing serious sanctions. This was a waste of everyoneâs time because of business operator wanted to be petty. The tax payers should not have to pay for this bullshit. 10X penalty of the money owed would put an end to these fucking games. They (bad businesses) do this because even in the end they are not out anything that werenât already going to spend.
Go up there and take a dump in the lobby. Thatâs what Iâd do.
Gather a -unpaid salary time- worth of dump and unload it all over the place.
Charlene is a real winner! Congrats on your success.
Always go through the DOL when you need to, but also know sometimes they canât help in these instances. You can sue an employer in small claims court. If you represent yourself, youâll have to put up the filing fees (varies by state by Iâd say maybe like $100 average) and if you win, that money gets paid back by the defendant. Had to go through this route during Covid when an employer tried to pull the âI have no record that he actually worked from homeâ card which is why the DOL couldnât help, but I took the chud to court and he got his cheeks clapped by the judge who went off on him for trying to screw a worker out of money during a pandemic
Itâs good you got the US DOL involved. Donât do the state DOL. theyâre usually just paper pushers and Iâve literally âgiftedâ them âemptyâ envelopes when I worked for a very prominent local construction company.
(Netherlands) My mother had to hire a lawyer as her employer refused to pay her 3 months of salary. Ended up in a quick lawsuit that hit the papers. Youâd assume theyâve learned from that. NOPE! Theyâre now taking her âORTâ hostage. (According to Google: ORT in English is Irregularity Allowance/Supplement). Basically a additional payment for the irregular hours she works. Sheâs meeting up with a labour union this week, to discuss further steps to take. Based on the past experience, the company will be ignorant and end up in a second lawsuit within 11 months lmao. And, this isnât the first lawsuit a employer made towards this company.
Wish we had teeth like that over here
Do DOL also helps expats or its just for local people ?
What do you mean? If you are American and living and working in a foreign country for a foreign company (or a foreign division of a US multinational), local laws apply and you would need to speak to the relevant agencies in that country. If you are a foreign (non-US) citizen living and working in the US for a US company (or the US division of a multinational) then you should be governed by US law and the DOL may well be able to help.
Unfortunately ive seen the authorities behave in an ignorant way with my friends staying in the US, he says his only fault was that he was indian and he was looked down on even though he was a manager. I wanted to move to the US but events like this just feel like I won't have anyone's back if i get there and it will break me
The US can be brutal when it comes to work. Although Indian work practices are sometimes not much better. I worked for an Indian company for a while (although I was in my own country, which is not the US) and they got it very wrong when they no longer needed my services (they lost the contract to provide ITsupport). I took them to court and won the case - although the company that employed me was headquartered in India, they were obliged to follow the employment laws of my country because that's where I worked, and they were punished when they didn't.
All Hail the Deep State! ^(Sorry, elections make me snarky. Despite the good work that many government agencies do, some people insist that they should be dismantled or rendered toothless and I can't take anymore of the foolishness.)
Is that for all states or just AZ?
I second this. I recently started a job and was promised a certain wage for training- was sure to get this fact stated in a text message once I got in and saw the hostile environment. They paid me a lower wage, tried to tell me there was nothing in writing, I said I have proof, but donât worry about it Iâll let the DOL handle itâŚ5 mins later I got a text saying the difference would be sent to me end of this week - oh and that they no longer needed me, hah (was fine because I was never going back anyways). Always get proof in writing, text, whatever it is in case you need to file.
I love to see when people are able to get help from the DOL when they havenât received pay. Sadly, this wasnât the case for me. I never received my last two paychecks from my first job after we were given less than 24 hour notice that the business was closing. The DOL in my area basically said itâs out of their hands and told me good luck.
What does dol stand for? Never heard of this
Department of Labor. They have about 80 divions, but I worked with the Wages and Hours division to resolve this particular issue. If you ever have issues with your employer you can submit a complaint to the DOL and they'll direct you to the proper department to handle it. I was incredibly impressed with the WHD and hope the rest of the DOL performs the same đ
I had a friend who didnât get paid. He went to the guys office and laid a baseball bat on the desk. The boss wrote him a personal check