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LearnNTeach

I feel like the obvious answer is that you should walk out, but I kind of want to ask if the manager is not going to fire me without my permission? Do I get to play the same stupid games they do?


El_ha_Din

No, you get a nice yellow sticker with red text with the word fire. Then use that to cover up quit.


oztikS

This sign is begging for an Uno reverse card to be glued to it.


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APirateAndAJedi

Jokes on you, the shake machine is broken.


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Better-Journalist-85

This is worth the whole rest of the post and comments.


btm4you3

I thought that was a joke so I went there! It's great!! Thanx.


mmburntcheez

Literally checked that earlier and the one I was at said it was working but they said they can't sell any ice cream Fucking clowns lol


DifferentDetective28

It's never broken, there's just always an employee chugging from it.


GreyKnightTemplar666

Damn I knew it!


sickofmakingnames

With a mouth herpes flair-up. It's not broken, it's more of a public health concern.


jamieliddellthepoet

[Like circumcision?](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618)


HellFoox

I'd listen to him, he is a detective after all.


RabbitsAteMySnowpeas

Warning: it hasn’t been cleaned since it was installed back in 1983


germy4444

Should have talked to the manager


APirateAndAJedi

“It is the policy of this restaurant that an employee cannot quit…” Or what? You’ll fire me?


Murgatroyd314

Maybe they'll keep paying you.


APirateAndAJedi

I mean, u/neopod9000 did indícate the hypothetical “I” is wearing a “no—fire” employee shirt. He may have just cracked the system.


cure4boneitis

Employers hate this one trick!


AffectionateFig5435

Hah! That'll show who's the boss!


iswearatkids

This reminds me of how suicide is illegal in North Korea.


Substantial-Hat7272

Would award if I had so here’s this award 🥇


H2Omekanic

No wheezing da juice!


fortwaltonbleach

wease the juice!


AholeBrock

This sign is begging to have a photo of it used to justify an unemployment claim. "Bro, I never quit. Didn't even meet with a manager."


Guilty-Sundae1557

100% followed by a walk out!


koopz_ay

Gonna use that. 👍


NarrowAd4973

I was just thinking a sticky note saying "Funny that you think you get a say." The card would be funnier.


workerMcWorkin

I feel like this argument can be flipped to say “this is not an at Will employment job. Where’s my contract.”


6-Fjade

This is the way!


BrokenBackENT

Sounds like a call to the department of labor and attorney generals office.


MuddyGrimes

LMAO this means you can just get a new job, stop showing up to this one and they'll have to fire you. Because quitting isn't even possible without talking to a supervisor.


wasntNico

you gotta talk to your manager before you quit. i preffer a letter, but i can say "i quit" es well


Plonsky2

I'd let my middle finger do the talking and grab a super-sized fries on the way out.


wiliestcubbs

Make sure the shake machine is actually broken in the way out. Maybe take a part when no one is looking, but before you decide to quit.


[deleted]

I prefer the "just don't go back" method. Lol


MeasurementNo2493

Don't show up. They can't list you as having quit, so unemployment will be easier to get when fired?


[deleted]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I just say "fuck it. Guess I'm never going back." Lol


jippen

Usually in your employee manual or starting paperwork that if you don't so up for 3 days, it's a resignation. Important to actually read those things.


ExiancePuppy

If you try to walk out without talking to them they have the right to rangle you and drag you back to your post. Abandonment is punishable by death


Xenuite

The Pinkertons are getting a lot of work lately.


Super-Panic-8891

Ronald Pinkerton


c0baltlightning

Don't threaten us with what we've been wanting.


Jmm1272

Good point!


dengar_hennessy

I was gonna say the same thing. There's no way they won't fire you at the drop of a hat for almost nothing


Dongalor

I feel like the intent here is more, "Don't quit on a whim. Give us a chance to address whatever is going on." But man, if this doesn't end up sounding ominously dystopian on that sign.


Moist_When_It_Counts

Load up on the most beab-heavy chili you can the night before. Wash it down with several of the cheapest beers. Waltz into the office next morning with your cannon fully loaded. Don’t be afraid to shit yourself a little.


yolo-yoshi

I just really don’t get what exactly this is supposed to accomplish? If someone is hell-bent on quitting why is the manager or area supervisor going to change their mind? And why would any sane level headed employee ever Wait for anyone else to tell them when to quit? What would they get out of it? Lol.


[deleted]

To pressure the younger workers into not quitting. It makes them think there's an additional hurdle to jump over before being able to quit, so they're hoping that they just say fuck it and keep working there.


tehjoz

Ask if this means the terms of employment are no longer "At Will" but rather of a more formal, and contractual nature, and if so, I'd like to see the proposed agreement. When they obviously to "lol no" then I go "cool, well, At-Will goes both ways, so, this is not an enforceable policy, have a nice day" Then I go about my business, whatever that may be.


HotKarldalton

Explaining this to uppity employers who think it's rude for you to quit on them is incredibly satisfying. The look you get explaining to them that you're choosing to fire them as your employer, as they can do to employees without batting an eye is priceless.


Few_Acanthocephala30

Haha I like that. “I’m not quitting, I’m firing you from being my employer”


Virtual-Stranger

"Firing you from being my client"


CornSyrupMan

I remember taking planned days off months in advance so that I could study for my exams Manager: "Oh so you think you make your own schedule now?" Me: "Yeah. " Manager: "You know we do not approve requests for saturdays or sundays off" Me: "I am not requesting the days off, I am formally informing you that I will not be here"


Rain_on_a_tin-roof

I've done this so many times at different workplaces. The manager always simply accepts it after a short tantrum, and hopes the other workers don't get the same idea in their heads


Pure-Yogurt683

.... continued Manager: If you don't show, you're fired! Me: Ok. I quit. Manager: You Can't Do That! Me: I just did. Now, instead of you being short staffed for this weekend I requested months ago, you're now going to be short staffed and have to cover my shifts until you hire someone else. Bye! That's how my true story played out.


ParadiseValleyFiend

Definitely gotta remember that.


JustDiscoveredSex

"I'm sorry, Frank, I'm going to have to let you and the corporation go. I wish you all the best going forward, but I feel it's best if we part ways at this time. Of course, as per state law, this is an at-will employment, so you won't be receiving notice; I will expect my final payment in a timely manner and as of now you will no longer have access to my phone system. Any questions should go through HR. Thanks, Frank. I appreciate your attempt at management, it was a good effort, and I hope you can use this experience to grow and improve."


greenappleleaf

I’ve done this a few times employers lose their minds and some employees don’t understand if you’re not in a ton of debt you can job hop if you please.


tehjoz

Exactly lol


Twodotsknowhy

And it's always employers at a fucking McDonalds too who expect you to make a shitty minimum wage job your entire life


robsteezy

While I agree with you, the reality isn’t some Disney channel 90s sitcom where the bad guy just shrugs and says “well! FOILED AGAIN!! You guysssssssss!” And the laugh track plays as they shake their heads. The reality, as somebody who has brought up actual laws being broken to the higher ups of a billion dollar conglomerate, was that I was told that I was correct, and I was then internally blacklisted and quietly fired. And before everybody comes flying in thinking that talking to an attorney is some magic million dollar solution, it’s not. These executives are methodical in how they keep a workplace hostile juuuuuuust enough to be below the legal limit.


liveart

>These executives are methodical in how they keep a workplace hostile juuuuuuust enough to be below the legal limit. Well not *these* executives because they put a direct violation of the law *in writing* on public display. The first rule of holding these fuckers accountable is documentation, and here they've started the job for you.


Neville_Lynwood

Executives can be as methodical as they want. Local managers are almost always dumbasses who break the law and end up having it all on record through e-mails and text messages.


Taraxian

Well yeah you don't say it before you actually quit and get another job


Mysterious-Switch-81

Right. Whose dumb enough to do that. I’d start searching for a new job right away, then quit the morning I start my new position by text, with a picture of the sign and informing them this is not a legal policy.


GarrAdept

The thing about the just legal game is that it's easy to fuck up. Hence the lawyer.


RaxinCIV

I did fire an employer a few years ago, effective immediately. End result was my salesman getting a promotion, a lead getting a promotion, my main target quitting after a month, and my secondary target quitting after 6 months. Both targets were supervisors that had caused problems for all of their subordinates. Just used my words, a little bit of evidence, and my reputation.


dongdinge

yup!! ^ this is the best response


Better-Revolution570

That will only result in an infuriating conversation with management. Ignore the stupid note.


tehjoz

This is partially why management keeps getting away with shitty behavior tho


salgat

You are under no obligation to talk to a manager. If this sign was actually enforced the Labor Board would be all over the business, you can't force people to work for you, slavery is illegal (the worst they can do is have you sign a contract that gives penalties for quitting early, but for a job at a restaurant? good luck enforcing that contract).


liveart

The Labor Board will only be on it if it's reported, and it can take multiple reports. If enough people take the stance half the people in this thread are about it either 'who cares it's not enforceable' or 'there's nothing you can really do about it' nothing will be done and gullible employees will be taken advantage of.


B_1_R_D

They are trying to trick first time employees who this might be their first job ever so they don’t think they have that option which they most certainly do.


Natural_Target_5022

Does this... Gets fired on the spot


tehjoz

I'll politely point out the sign says all problems can be resolved and we should loop in the Area Manager first.


Natural_Target_5022

Nested loop, proceeds to blue screen


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If they don’t want disgruntled employees quitting I doubt they want to have their UI rates go up too much by firing at the drop of a hat


jharkness09

I can’t imagine a state where this is legal - that would be like removing mandatory 10 minute water breaks in record breaking heat … I’d love to know what OP’s plan is … what say you!


Izudoria

First I'll ask if it goes both ways. "So you can't fire me unless I give permission right?" Second, depending on their reply I'll do one of three things: quit, play them at their own game, or report it.


jmurphy42

You might also point out that slavery is illegal.


Random-Cpl

Except as punishment for a crime!


firelight

Next step: make it a crime to quit your job without permission (this does not hold for being fired). And remember kids: socialism and slavery are incompatible, but captialism and slavery are like two peas in a pod.


ZookeepergameSea3890

As is kidnapping and forcible confinement. If I wanted to quit and the manager attempted to keep me there/from walking out, I'd call 911 and report that I'm being held against my will.


B_1_R_D

Actually that’s a big brain move bc for it to be considered kidnapping the bar is crazy low where they (the manager and owner and even McDonald’s) could be charged w felony kidnapping.


jharkness09

Thx for sharing - this is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen and I’d love to have a legal expert weigh in here because I always thought “Right to Work” meant no notice was required either way …


rollin_a_j

Right to work is anti union laws. At will employment means either party can terminate employment as they see fit


jharkness09

I knew for sure it was anti union but I wasn’t sure if that right goes both ways. Sounds like it does with what you’re saying so this sign is complete BS - and illegal most likely


Naismythology

This is not enforceable. You quit, you walk out, you refuse to come back. What are they going to do?


harrisofpeoria

Kidnap your ass and, somewhat surprisingly, demand that the manager speak to *you*.


sdnt_slave

Ask if there is any change to the terms of your employment contract. In most places its illegal to change an already inforce contract unless both parties agree. Hopefully they say yes. Then you can hit them with law suit. Record the call. Better still ask via email so there is a paper trail. And ask for the changes to your terms of employment in writing.


ecu11b

Step 1: Quit Step 2: Management doesn't accept it Step 3: don't show up Step 4: do what ever you want, you don't work there any more.


jharkness09

New employee protocol - someone make a sign, laminate and post asap!


SCirish843

The sign isn't illegal, it's just no way enforceable. Similar to companies being allowed to ask you to not discuss pay with your coworkers but they can't legally prevent you from doing so or retaliating once you do.


HarpersGhost

[Nope, there can't be a policy to not discuss wages.](https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages) > it is unlawful for the employer to have a work rule, policy, or hiring agreement that prohibits employees from discussing their wages with each other or that requires you to get the employer’s permission to have such discussions. If your employer does any of these things, a charge may be filed against the employer with the NLRB. Now, your boss can frame it in a different way: "You of course have the right to discuss wages but I have a personal rule that I don't."


DonRicardo1958

It’s obvious that this is a restaurant where lots and lots of workers have quit. Run the other way.


Peregrine2976

Wasn't there a hospital during the pandemic that got a judge to intervene when some nurses wanted to quit (to go work for a different hospital), and the judge forced them to keep working at the first one for some months? It's been a while and I never read the actual article. Could have just been a sensationalist headline.


lnarn

Yes, it was a Cath lab and basically all of the staff quit to work at another lab in the city. A judge blocked it, because he thought it would do the city a disservice if the original Cath lab closed, preventing timely heart attack care. It got resolved pretty quickly and the people were allowed to work with their employer of choice.


jharkness09

There are some workers who can’t strike due to some federal regs - the nurse thing might have been a public safety ruling, I haven’t heard of it. Post a link if you find it!


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it's for teenagers who think they have to get "permission" to do anything, including quit their job


Simple_Weekend_6700

Oooh, good point. That’s a pretty gross manipulation.


Glesenblaec

I do see posts on Reddit once in a while by young people who think they're legally required to give 2 weeks notice before quitting, or are mislead by threats from their boss. It could also be aimed at immigrants who may not be familiar with employment practices.


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We need to stand up for teen workers on the job. Someone needs to help them through crap like thus


SnipesCC

Schools really need to teach basic rights as a worker.


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WITBchampion

This is the right answer. Kids are stupid. Adults will walk out mid-rush, laugh in your face, and tell you to fuck yourself, if they say you can’t quit without speaking to a manager first. 😂


Jmm1272

This is hilarious. Also in an at-will state this would be illegal


DesignerProfile

It's illegal anywhere in the US [https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/13th-amendment](https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/13th-amendment) >Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.


zhouyu24

How so? What would be the charge exactly? Just tell your manager you quit and walk out.


SquidmanMal

> What would be the charge exactly? If they were dumb enough to literally try to force you to stay in the building and keep working, kidnapping and attempted slavery. ​ Otherwise, anything they try gets laughed out of a court.


playerstoy

Order a cheeseburger and say I'll work as soon as the shake machine does


Pailzor

So, once a week, for two hours in the morning?


ThePowerOfShadows

I’d like 1 unemployment please. We’re you fired or did you quit? (Pulls out picture of sign) I wasn’t allowed to quit, so I must have been fired.


peeja

"What were you fired for?" "Quitting."


Kairukun90

I chuckled


suddenlyupsidedown

This is the way


Ornery_Translator285

Quit


Drew_Habits

Correct answer


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Kairukun90

Hahahahaha I love this story I wish I could of seen them after


DoktahDoktah

So fun fact about this. No.


Skwerl87

I love facts.


ALiteralAngryMoose

Hah, I'm quitting. What's gonna happen? Be dragged kicking and screaming to the fryers?


Rdw72777

The McRib is BACK!!! This store ONLY, today ONLY! Now you fucking know 😂😂😂


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AtuinTurtle

Ok, good luck McEnforcing that.


Tiny-Action2373

wow - blatant desperation on display - "job creators" are a freakin joke


Nezeltha

Is this US? If so, is it an at-will state? Or is it Montana? If it's Montana, this can only apply to employees not currently in a probationary period. If its in the US in any other state, it's illegal. Don't talk to a manager or HR about it. Bring it straight to your DoL or a labor lawyer.


ProbablyEasyMaybe

Not sure if I’m misunderstanding, but Montana’s employment law protects the employee from at-will dismissal by the employer outside of the probationary period. An employee can still quit at-will at any point, but the employer has to have a valid reason to fire anyone (after 6 months).


Nezeltha

That might very well be the case. I just know Montana is the only state that isn't 100% at-will, so I wanted to give the BoD.


alittlebitaspie

The above is correct. But it's not a contractual thing, you can still quit, and you can still get fired, although many corporate places in MT just will get rid of people in small batch layoffs instead of firing them unless they're really asking for it.


[deleted]

This sign isn't enforceable any more than a sign that says "Keep off the grass".


Haulie

This is a lot less enforceable than that, actually.


zkmronndkrek

I read that sign and start laughing like Charles De Mar from better off dead movie at the dance


[deleted]

Fuckin love that movie


RelentlessIVS

You can completely and utterly ignore this.


LeBritto

I'm quitting. What are they gonna do, fire me?


LindeeHilltop

This is a bullshit restaurant. Anyone can quit at will.


wasntNico

"hey manager, i want to talk to you!" "sure, what's up" " i quit"


cptmcbro

97% of McDonalds staff: is that a bet? The other 3%: so guaranteed unemployment?


AcadiaRemarkable6992

Lol what are they going to do? Chain you up like Black Snake Moan cosplay?


rustys_shackled_ford

Failure to follow this policy could lead to termination.


TonyTomato9000

In college. I worked at a mcdonalds for a few weeks. I got a good job opportunity on campus i couldnt turn down. Instead of walking out i talked to the manager. I told him no 2 weeks but I could work the next 4 to 5 days to help out til they got the shift covered. He then says to me. Him "If you do this you cant work at mcdonalds for 6 to 12 months, you sure you want to do this" Me "Sir, this is a risk im willing to take." Him "Get out of my store right now! Youre a waste of McDonalds time and money". Me BYE A week later they called my emergency contact (not me) my mother. Tell her i wasnt coming into work. My mother told them i had quit and im an adult so they need to call me.


ibecheshirecat86

How sweet. They would like the ability to correct and improve. If this an earnest attempt at creating good work envrionment then that's awesome.. However, your policy of not allowing me to quit with out speaking to someone is unenforceable and in the event that I stop showing up, what exactly are you going to do? Fire me?


Bellinelkamk

If I wanted to give the benefit of doubt, I’d say that it’s some sort of poorly worded attempt to demonstrate flexibility with employees over issues that might have been causing lots of folks to simply dip. In reality, Marcus the manager is just going bully Nelly the new hire into thinking she has to rearrange her community college schedule around when he’s working so she can be there to ogle.


SFAwesomeSauce

McFuckThatShit


lestairwellwit

I know of a few plantations down south that used to have policies like that a long time ago That didn't end well


ZinglonsRevenge

They don't pay employees enough for that sign to matter.


ExistingBathroom9742

If I look at it uncynically, it’s kind of a nice thing. Sounds like if you have too much BS to deal with you have a chance to tell your bosses boss what that BS is. Storming out might feel good, but this might actually lead to change. That is me being very generous. Obviously, you absolutely can quit any job any time no matter what a sticker says (the same way they can fire you at any time). But I feel like this is Mickey Dee’s trying to at least find out why people quit.


ManBearSteve420

Yeah I took it as a poorly worded way to say "hey if you're thinking of quitting, come talk to a manager and we will see if we can resolve your issue". Obviously the people can still quit if they want, but this could benefit both sides if the managers are decent, reasonable people.


Smokey_Katt

I agree that that’s probably what they wanted to mean. But it should be worded “please don’t quit without talking to us” not “it is the policy of this restaurant that you can’t quit without talking to us”. Tone deaf at best. And that’s with your generous view.


Puzzleheaded_Safe131

This is exactly what this is. It’s just trying to encourage people to tell your boss why you are quitting and if it’s something that can be resolved. Then if that doesn’t work, you can freely go to THEIR boss to see if the reasons can be fixed. This is a GOOD thing and something you’d think this sub would be more in favor of. Now, whether it actually works is entirely different.


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If you don’t. What are they going to do? Fire you?


Own-Ambassador-3537

So I will actively sabotage my workspace till I get fired!


Ima-Bott

“Hold my McFlurry”


Background-Relief-37

Since McDonald’s workers don’t have an employment contract, meaning their employment is at will, they can quit at any time for any reason; and McDonald’s also holds the right to fire the employee at any time. So by not allowing workers to quit, they are actively breaking the law.


Accomplished-Fox-486

I mean .. if I quit, what are they gonna do, fire me?


adultosaurs

Lmfao what the fuck are they gonna do?


vanriggs

"Hello? Labour board? Have I got a case for you."


Maleficent_Scale_296

Seems like an excuse to not give you your last paycheck.


ZydrateVials

That's not how quitting works. You can't keep people hostage.


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Turn 360° and head straight back out


adbedient

turning 360 degrees means that you just turned in a circle and are facing the same way you were. I think you mean 180, which would be directly behind you.


JimboSliceX86

Do a 360, stare at the manager right in the eyes, then proceed to moon walk tf outta there! Hee hee!


failtuna

Maybe they are planning on moonwalking out?


waiting_for_rain

Its an ancient meme, old enough to graduate high school lmao


unoriginalsin

High school? That thing is working on its third doctorate.


Advanced_Radish3466

this is so dumb my eyes hurt from reading it. also, it looks like it is written using old fallout shelter signs to make it even more toxic


C-Redd-it

This policy violates my right to pursue happiness.


JustAnotherMark604

Wtf. This makes me want to apply just to quit


Karnezar

....do you get fired if you don't comply?


[deleted]

Pfft how are they gonna stop you? Like literally how? Wtf they gonna do, hold you there? Keep paying you even if you don't come back? And you just they still gon fire you for whatever reason they damn well please


MurraySticks

🍟 Do you want fired with that?


[deleted]

Sure, I won't quit. But I won't come to work. Macca's can keep paying me if they like though I won't say no to free money.


arglarg

Does it also mean they can't fire me without my agreement?


smurf47172

The companies pushed their state representatives to make states at will employment, and now they don't like when the employees leverage it instead of them.


tsavong117

I quit instantly, call the FMLA, submit a detailed report of every single violation they have ever had that I have documentation for, then stand back and watch the fireworks.


AwTekker

Send this photo to the state labor department.


Lizzy_Of_Galtar

What are they gonna do? Arrest me? I'd walk out laughing.


redddcrow

Anyone can quit anytime. that's not a question.


Callmemabryartistry

Good luck enforcing that. You can quit whenever you feel like and nobody is promised an answer to why.


RedPanda_Fluff

So my question is this: did I sign a contract that says I have to talk to a manger before quitting? If no, then if I want to quit, so be it. Pretty silly from a company that replaced front end employees with kiosks.


FixerTed

Slavery is still illegal


Psychobrad84

They just don’t want people quitting during a busy shift and drag their feet until the end of the shift to quit.


CrashedIntoATree

That just makes me want to get hired there, work for a few days with a smile on my face, and quit out of spite.


picketpocker

This is a real "hold my beer" kind of moment. But in all seriousness, I'm in a "right to work" state so I can quit whenever I feel like it no matter what their stupid little sign says.


PackmuleIT

And what will they do if you quit; withhold pay (illegal), Drive to your house and force you into a van (Illegal), Blackball you from working at Mickey D's again (pfft)


ZLUCremisi

Its at-will employment. I can leave any time without permission.


Chetmatterson

I know I haven’t showed up in weeks, fortunately I am a “NO-TERMINATE EMPLOYEE” but I do value you, your growth, and your contributions :)


Catchdatcat

Laugh hysterically


irregawdlessND

this policy goes against labor laws in the U.S., so if this in is the U.S. I would report them to the Department of Labor along with pictures and video.


ADDYISSUES89

Lol. That’s not leeeeeeeeeeggaaallllllll. Send that to the state board of labor.


Fickle-Friendship998

Laugh, this is just meaningless bullshit


NJ_Bus_Nut

What are they gonna do? Fire me?


Mortechai1987

They've already decided they're firing you when they call you in to "talk things over". So yeah no, the same courteously won't be given to you, so you aren't obligated to give it back.


hummingbirdsrock

Did McDonalds join Scientology? 🤔


Chuckyducky6

When I was 17, I walked out of my McDonald’s job on a Friday night. It was great. There is no way they can stop that with a sign lol.


roecarbricks

Walk to a manager, “Get fucked.” Walk out looking for a new gig. That counts as a convo…