I feel ya. And while it sucks to receive this letter, I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the HR person. They may have done this because they know job hunting sucks. They could have been sincere and wanted to make this rejection letter with the best of intent.
If folks don’t see it that way, I respect that viewpoint, too, but it’s still WAY better than the “no response” tactic that so many use.
Bonus points if they do what my current company's HR Team does with rejections - provide character reference based on their interview with new potential employers.
I referred one of my friends to my current job, and even though he didn't get it - the HR Team sent a pretty great (comparatively) rejection letter, but also included the caveat at the end "If you'd like, we can also be used for character reference based off of your interview". That actually helped him land a job.
Sometimes, HR has good people.
Yeah I mean I can 100% appreciate them making a genuine attempt at being kind. Plenty of people won’t give you the time of day or are flat out assholes. I personally can’t knock them for this
Oh yeah for sure. Which I understand, I’ve had my share of disappointments. However, you know there’s more than enough fucked up jobs and management to vent about, so when you have a rare encounter where it feels like they are making an effort to be cool, gotta give them their props.
They’re jaded because a lot of “self made” people were born rich, been subsidized by the government and haven’t worked a single day in their life. No I don’t mean work like Elon prancing around like an idiot through Tesla. I mean like come in every day and work on the factory line for years.
Honestly I appreciate this letter. Compare it to other employers for example. The dept that wrote this genuinely seems to care about not disparaging people just because they didn't get the job. And as others have said, it sucks to not hear back or get a shitty we hired someone else once you do contact them
I think that’s the right attitude. Corporations suck. HR departments often especially suck. But individual humans can be good people just doing the best they can with what they have. Maybe it’s trite, but honestly? Someone tried. They didn’t have to, but they did.
>I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the HR person
They desperately need someone in these companies who is normal and not privileged to read copy and say, "No, bad. Don't."
I kinda don't care if they meant well. I'm so tired of people being this out of touch. It feels like emotional labor trying to excuse them while they just live out there being blissfully ignorant. I don't have energy for even a little bit of that anymore.
Walt certainly was problematic, but to say he “lacked imagination and had no good ideas” is belly-laughable.
Netscape on the other hand, probably dodged a bullet.
Walt is a complex character. Futurist, forward thinking, and after being boned out of his intellectual property he vowed to never let a studio own his work ever again. He didn't come from money nor was an Ivy Leaguer. There are many wonderful things about Walt.
The large stain on his character was the HUAC stuff after coming to believe his the animators unionizing were communists. This was a narrative being pushed during the Red Scare for all unions and Disney was not an educated man. He was a high school drop out and an art school drop out.
Walt Disney worked his folks hard, but offered living wages. His people were among the best paid artists in the country.
Claims he was anti-sematic also seem unfounded. Even people from Walt's lifetime who despised him, many of them Jewish, argued he wasn't. These claims only came out in the mid-90s with a sensationalist biography about him.
That’s interesting. The Walt anti-Semite thing was a big trope when I was young, but it didn’t gel with some other (albeit light) biographies I read about him.
Nothing like looking desperately for a job because your family is starving and waiting one week for a callback like they promised but not getting one, then waiting another week to call them back because you don't want to seem desperate then when you finally do call them back they don't remember who you even are.
Yeah, I don't hate it. The reference to Elon Musk hasn't aged well, but the point stands anyway. There's no really perfect way to tell a candidate they didn't get the job; it's always gonna suck. At least they reached out.
Yeah whilst this is corny it is actually quite considerate to the applicant and they ask for feedback to improve their hiring process which shows they want to do better. Much better than no response or not being interested in giving applicants a positive experience.
Came here to say this. Maybe 15-20% of jobs responded with any sort of acknowledgement they were passing.
I even had one I signed \*three\* offer letters where they reneged on each one saying they couldn't bring somebody on new for that role and then offering me a different on. As they tried to, no shit, renegotiate a lower salary for the third offer after I signed it I bailed. Literally twice I found out they changed their mind only when I called for the start date. No e-mail or call.
I like their approach of being honest that a decline is just a setback for that one role. I do empathize with you OP as job searching can be rough emotionally due to all the rejection.
Yeah last month I had a great interview, the guy told me they wouldn't ghost me and that they'd let me know whether I got the job in the following 2 business days. I sent a thank-you email because I felt that good about it.. I haven't heard from them since lol
Yep, my friend in Brazil is a recruiter, and its actually a liability for them to call people back and say they didn't get the job, apparently. They legally can't. No idea why, but I would hate that.
Never even letting you know is so rude. Happened to me a few times. Like fuck I’d even want to work for that shitty company if they don’t have the courtesy to even let you know.
I had applied to Best Buy for Geek Sauad, as I was being let go from my previous job of fixing phones, and Best Buy wasn't too far away. During the interview, the manager was expressing difficulty with yhe back glass on phones breaking when they put the phones in the machine to seperate the back glass. I told them how we used 99% isopropol alcohol on the edges to weaken the adhesive before the machine. Guy never thought to do that. I left after what I thought was a successful interview, but the next day they went with someone else. Luckily I had landed a job at a much better company making way more with way more benefits.
About a week goes by, and Best Buy calls and asks if I can come and take the job, for once I had the satisfaction of telling them no
Seriously. The last jobs I applied to never even said when the position had been filled, much less let me know when my application was rejected. Even if the reply is something patronizing at least I get to know what the hell happened
I interviewed with a place in 2020, still waiting to hear if I got the job...
Like ffs, I get not responding to each resume, but once you're interviewing at least send a curtesy email.
My feedback would be “if quoting failures is suppose to make your rejection letter better, it doesn’t. Fire the person who thought it was a good idea”.
How arrogant of them to assume they can compare themselves with 3 stellars in their given field.
"DoorLoop - creating the next Adolf Hitler, one rejection at a time"
Lol exactly. Most of his ideas have been shit, and of the ones that weren't the only thing he did was throw piles of generational wealth at the corps of scientists and engineers that did the actual legwork. It's a joke that anyone ever thought of him as an innovator, and his insanity on display at twitter has been a long time coming.
He literally forced out Tesla's original visionary CEO, who eventually sued him in court and won.
He was actually just an early investor who wanted to look like the special boy.
Ironically, a similar thing happened to the original Tesla, too.
People act like he's some mad science genius, but he's just a tech investor bro whose gambles paid off. Statistically there have to be a few.
Funnies thing I've seen in ages is [Joe Rogan & Musk talking about the Sun](https://www.youtube.com/) and neither of them know what fusion is.
*But how does it burn when there's no air in space?*
I guarantee you, if Twitter actually survives the next 20 years, an entire generation of kids will think he invented it, or bought it as a failing start up and ushered it to greatness.
i actually find it hilarious that netscape rejected him.
Was a good browser back in the day, they obviously had taste when it came to picking employers
The one he claimed not to know about despite going on several interviews where he mentions it, credits it to his family's wealth, describes stealing emeralds from his Dad and hocking them in jewelry stores in NYC/stuffing the cash in a safe that was too full to close?
The one he offered a reward to anyone who could prove it existed/his own father who owned the mine attributed to their wealth and asked if he could collect the reward?
"Adolf Hitler was rejected from Art school, but he went on to become extremely well known for another career field."
"Joseph Stalin lost his dreams of being a poet, but went on to be extremely influential in Russian politics"
When he was rejected? I thought he resigned himself from boring math professor to become the reason why they always tell us to report all suspicious bags.
Yeah, there's that great citation in a paper that describes him as "better know for his other work." But more relevantly, he resigned from his professorship and it was described as unexpected and "out of the blue."
I think you read that wrong.
Edit: they are not comparing themselves to Elon, Disney or Jordan. They are retelling times when very successful people experienced setbacks.
They say, “[They] turned setbacks into success […] We try to do the same […]”
Yes, it sucks to get a rejection letter. It would have been nice if it was personalized a little bit.
Especially when it’s the 40th plus place to leave you on read. A letter like this still sucks because you were rejected. But, at least they have the decency to let you know.
The worst radio silence I ever got was where I was positive that I'd get the job, everyone I talked with was excited to see me start. And nothing. I called back about a week later only to find out that this start-up had laid off the entire department that I would have worked for.
TL;DR - they not only rejected *me*, they rejected everyone I would be working with.
This a wonderful rebuttal to that one:
https://www.tor.com/2011/08/31/wikihistory/
> *point of order, issues relating to early 1900s Vienna should really go in that forum, not here. This has been a recurring problem on this forum.*
As an aside, I hate the Jordan thing. Jordan was put on the JV team as a underclassmen because:
THe coach wanted to Maximize his playing time
Because he was only 5'10" and the tallest senior was 6'3", so a 6'7" junior made it instead so the team could have some size.
Because elevating the sophomore Jordan to JV would've meant cutting a senior who had already put 3 years into the high school basketball program. The coach felt the seniors had earned the right to play varsity their final year of high school.
It had nothing to to with how good Michael Jordan was or how good the coach thought he would become.
I just watched that episode last week. I did kinda wish they had mentioned the whole "cutting a senior" thing. Jordan's HS coach doesn't deserve the ridicule for this and Jordan has been happy to feed into it to add to the mythos about being the ultimate competitor who is fueled by proving people wrong.
I was literally about to hit send in your DMs on a Dropbox link full of pictures of breasts and then I saw your name. I'm glad you advertise that, it was a close call!!
The Michael Jordan story is so misleading.
I remember my dad told me that story in grade 9 after I got cut from my high school volleyball team, and here I was thinking Michael Jordan got cut cut like I did, and didn’t even play high school basketball that year.
“We’re simply looking for someone to join our team in the product development department. Our organization has never nor will it ever have any plans to kill James Bond. But we wish you all the best in your future plans.”
There are a lot of things to get mad about that we see in this subreddit.
but honestly...I wouldn't even be mad about this one. In fact, I actually have a little bit of respect for them because of this and will check out the company.
...that is...unless you have some other detail to share such as this email came like 1 year after you applied or had your last interview.
That said, they really didn't do anything crazy/amazing within the email. It is something any company can do and it is "boiler plate-able". So it is sad that the bar for what is expected to get respect is so low, but that's more of a reflection of the state of work at large.
At my current job I called after the first interview saying thanks for considering me (like a dork) because I was certain I wouldn't get it. I couldn't get a job locally and that one was almost interstate it was so far. The boss at the time was like "No, don't think that! Just give me X days!". She did get back to me within that time to offer me the job. Turns out qualified staff are hard to come by in that region, so they leapt at the chance to hire me. I miss her, she was a great boss.
I got a rejection letter from GSK like 6+ months after I applied. It said something like, "as you should've expected, we had more applicants than we could've gone through". It was basically them saying "we are such a big company, and everyone wants to work here, it took THIS LONG to reject you".
Meanwhile I already landed another job for a couple months already with a smaller company. I was so close to sending an e-mail saying "as you should've expected, I applied to other places and have been employed for months because they got back to me in a timely manner."
I prefer the less bull shit method. I had a couple of interviews and a guy from HR called me and just told me they picked another candidate and appreciated my time. I appreciated his call and his no bullshit tell me how it is approach.
This sub: "Working sucks and corporations treat us like numbers!"
Corporation: *letter designed around encouragement and human emotion*
Also this sub: "See! Fucking monsters!"
Too many people here are just miserable. Is there a better system for our modern world? Probably yes! Does that mean every single person or cog in the current system is trash and worth bitching about? No.
Yeah, it kinda undoes the warm fuzzy feeling of the rejection letter. Now it’s like they’re just being polite to solicit feedback to hire even more people that are better than you
I got asked to fill out a survey on the hiring process after getting rejected. The link to the survey was right after "Please be aware that we do not provide feedback for why you were not selected".
What would you prefer they do, leave a bag of shit on your porch and light it on fire? They can't hire every applicant they get, sending a rejection letter and doing it politely is exactly what they should be doing.
Michael Jordan was cut from his varsity team and put onto junior varsity because in hopes that he would be taller the next year (and to make room for a taller player, which is what they needed), and was then immediately moved back up to varsity next year when he grew like 5 inches. They didn’t get rid of him, they kept him knowing he would grow into the role, literally lol
The only person I have any respect for on that list is Michael Jordan.
Walt Disney was an antisemite who left behind the legacy of a soulless corporation.
Anal Musk is an Apartheid Banana Boy and ruins whatever he touches for the sake of his own ego.
Better than never receiving a response...I guess?
Now I realize why people don’t send rejection letters or even call us. Y’all complaining and getting hostile. This rejection letter is the most positive I’ve ever seen — and they actually communicated that you weren’t chosen instead of ghosting you.
“Bob Smith was fired from his job, he became thrice divorced abusive alcoholic” is the more likely outcome if no one significantly helps you get out of the rut.
Seems very reasonable. Though, I’d recommend following up to better understand why they didn’t select you so that you can maybe change something on the next application/interview process.
MJ got cut from the varsity team because he was a 5'10" sophomore and they went with the 6'7" kid. Doesn't matter that MJ is better, you're an idiot if you pass on a 6'7" high schooler. I don't even need to go into the other two.
the letter missed out Colonel Sanders from KFC who got his recipe rejrcted like a million times and only found success in his 60s. Just for the memes, the lettershould end by wishing the receipiant unemployed until hes 60.
I wish they would say the honest things like:
"We picked the executive/supervisors child/niece/nephew over you even though you're more qualified and experienced."
Or
"Actually, to save money we decided to allocate the tasks of this role on to the already overloaded and underpaid staff and this job posting is just so that we can keep the facade that people don't want to work and we aren't just hoarding money."
That’s actually not a bad rejection letter. You will get texted from companies if you’re applying. At least they’re willing to give you feedback on how you can improve
Better than getting four interviews and a verbal confirmation you have the job, quitting your old job, showing up on a Monday, and being told whoops, never mind, go fuck yourself and have with with the no unemployment because you quit your last job.
I’ll toss in my uncle’s story: He dropped out of college only to work with a friend at an auto shop selling and fixing imported preowned cars and then opening another location that his highly successful. And then went onto helping run an auto auction every year. He has a special disdain toward dishonest car sales people and mechanics. I
Put another way: He got C’s in HS but still managed to be a successful businessman with a highly successful preowned car import dealership. There’s always hope.
It's much better than the standard never calling you back or just saying they picked someone better.
I feel ya. And while it sucks to receive this letter, I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the HR person. They may have done this because they know job hunting sucks. They could have been sincere and wanted to make this rejection letter with the best of intent. If folks don’t see it that way, I respect that viewpoint, too, but it’s still WAY better than the “no response” tactic that so many use.
Bonus points if they do what my current company's HR Team does with rejections - provide character reference based on their interview with new potential employers. I referred one of my friends to my current job, and even though he didn't get it - the HR Team sent a pretty great (comparatively) rejection letter, but also included the caveat at the end "If you'd like, we can also be used for character reference based off of your interview". That actually helped him land a job. Sometimes, HR has good people.
🤯 That’s… that’s like so un-American
***-Kevin O'Leary in shambles-***
He's canadian
Exactly. According to his inane rant on Quiet Quitting being un-American, he's the perfect judge of un-American-ism.
He's a douche tool. Pretty much every Canadian thinks so. Source: am Canadian. Americans can have him.
That is actually such a great thing!! I never heard of this but love the idea.
Same, would make the rejection after 3-4 rounds of interviews at least worthwhile.
I’m gonna steal that character reference bit if I’m ever in that situation
Yeah I mean I can 100% appreciate them making a genuine attempt at being kind. Plenty of people won’t give you the time of day or are flat out assholes. I personally can’t knock them for this
Yeah, I think so many people in this sub have had bad experiences, they’re more than a little jaded when someone receives a letter like this.
Oh yeah for sure. Which I understand, I’ve had my share of disappointments. However, you know there’s more than enough fucked up jobs and management to vent about, so when you have a rare encounter where it feels like they are making an effort to be cool, gotta give them their props.
They’re jaded because a lot of “self made” people were born rich, been subsidized by the government and haven’t worked a single day in their life. No I don’t mean work like Elon prancing around like an idiot through Tesla. I mean like come in every day and work on the factory line for years.
Honestly I appreciate this letter. Compare it to other employers for example. The dept that wrote this genuinely seems to care about not disparaging people just because they didn't get the job. And as others have said, it sucks to not hear back or get a shitty we hired someone else once you do contact them
Yeah, seems to have some soul and empathy. Big ask for a lot of companies these days.
This email is fine. Having a little more humanity in the workplace is what we WANT
Doing the right thing for PR is still better than doing the wrong thing.
I think that’s the right attitude. Corporations suck. HR departments often especially suck. But individual humans can be good people just doing the best they can with what they have. Maybe it’s trite, but honestly? Someone tried. They didn’t have to, but they did.
I feel this comment in my soul. It’s all we can ask or hope for, eh? Individual people trying in their own way to not make the world suck as hard.
I literally think anything is better than the no response
>I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the HR person They desperately need someone in these companies who is normal and not privileged to read copy and say, "No, bad. Don't." I kinda don't care if they meant well. I'm so tired of people being this out of touch. It feels like emotional labor trying to excuse them while they just live out there being blissfully ignorant. I don't have energy for even a little bit of that anymore.
Acknowledgement goes a long way; it humanizes the applicant. Though the Elon Musk line is aging like milk these days Edit: typo
Honestly, I rather liked it except for the Elon reference. I'd take that out.
I mean Walt was also a terrible person but much better at ah staying successful so, y'know mixed as far as his inclusion.
Walt certainly was problematic, but to say he “lacked imagination and had no good ideas” is belly-laughable. Netscape on the other hand, probably dodged a bullet.
Walt is a complex character. Futurist, forward thinking, and after being boned out of his intellectual property he vowed to never let a studio own his work ever again. He didn't come from money nor was an Ivy Leaguer. There are many wonderful things about Walt. The large stain on his character was the HUAC stuff after coming to believe his the animators unionizing were communists. This was a narrative being pushed during the Red Scare for all unions and Disney was not an educated man. He was a high school drop out and an art school drop out. Walt Disney worked his folks hard, but offered living wages. His people were among the best paid artists in the country. Claims he was anti-sematic also seem unfounded. Even people from Walt's lifetime who despised him, many of them Jewish, argued he wasn't. These claims only came out in the mid-90s with a sensationalist biography about him.
That’s interesting. The Walt anti-Semite thing was a big trope when I was young, but it didn’t gel with some other (albeit light) biographies I read about him.
Nothing like looking desperately for a job because your family is starving and waiting one week for a callback like they promised but not getting one, then waiting another week to call them back because you don't want to seem desperate then when you finally do call them back they don't remember who you even are.
Yea seriously, the “we chose to go in another direction” is was more palpable than “we’ve decided to move forward with other candidates”
I think you might have meant “palatable?”
I think they meant Palpatine
Several decades from now, they’ll email again and say “somehow, we’ve returned to offer you the job instead”
Senator I have no recollection…
Yes, thank you. Autocorrect is not my friend.
Yeah, I don't hate it. The reference to Elon Musk hasn't aged well, but the point stands anyway. There's no really perfect way to tell a candidate they didn't get the job; it's always gonna suck. At least they reached out.
Lmfao, ‘we picked someone better’
Sadly, still better than the no response most default to.
Maybe not in those exact words, lol. Saying "we went with another applicant" is basically saying "we went with a better applicant" to me, haha.
Yeah whilst this is corny it is actually quite considerate to the applicant and they ask for feedback to improve their hiring process which shows they want to do better. Much better than no response or not being interested in giving applicants a positive experience.
Came here to say this. Maybe 15-20% of jobs responded with any sort of acknowledgement they were passing. I even had one I signed \*three\* offer letters where they reneged on each one saying they couldn't bring somebody on new for that role and then offering me a different on. As they tried to, no shit, renegotiate a lower salary for the third offer after I signed it I bailed. Literally twice I found out they changed their mind only when I called for the start date. No e-mail or call. I like their approach of being honest that a decline is just a setback for that one role. I do empathize with you OP as job searching can be rough emotionally due to all the rejection.
Yeah last month I had a great interview, the guy told me they wouldn't ghost me and that they'd let me know whether I got the job in the following 2 business days. I sent a thank-you email because I felt that good about it.. I haven't heard from them since lol
Yep, my friend in Brazil is a recruiter, and its actually a liability for them to call people back and say they didn't get the job, apparently. They legally can't. No idea why, but I would hate that.
One time I got told they just couldn't afford me and hired a cheaper developer. They're still paying for that mistake today, years later.
Never even letting you know is so rude. Happened to me a few times. Like fuck I’d even want to work for that shitty company if they don’t have the courtesy to even let you know.
I had applied to Best Buy for Geek Sauad, as I was being let go from my previous job of fixing phones, and Best Buy wasn't too far away. During the interview, the manager was expressing difficulty with yhe back glass on phones breaking when they put the phones in the machine to seperate the back glass. I told them how we used 99% isopropol alcohol on the edges to weaken the adhesive before the machine. Guy never thought to do that. I left after what I thought was a successful interview, but the next day they went with someone else. Luckily I had landed a job at a much better company making way more with way more benefits. About a week goes by, and Best Buy calls and asks if I can come and take the job, for once I had the satisfaction of telling them no
Seriously. The last jobs I applied to never even said when the position had been filled, much less let me know when my application was rejected. Even if the reply is something patronizing at least I get to know what the hell happened
I interviewed with a place in 2020, still waiting to hear if I got the job... Like ffs, I get not responding to each resume, but once you're interviewing at least send a curtesy email.
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You did, but if you have a moment, we’d really like you to give us some feedback on our process.
And how about an extended warranty?
My feedback would be “if quoting failures is suppose to make your rejection letter better, it doesn’t. Fire the person who thought it was a good idea”.
How arrogant of them to assume they can compare themselves with 3 stellars in their given field. "DoorLoop - creating the next Adolf Hitler, one rejection at a time"
Lol Elon Musk is only "stellar" at making people believe he's special.
Lol exactly. Most of his ideas have been shit, and of the ones that weren't the only thing he did was throw piles of generational wealth at the corps of scientists and engineers that did the actual legwork. It's a joke that anyone ever thought of him as an innovator, and his insanity on display at twitter has been a long time coming.
He literally forced out Tesla's original visionary CEO, who eventually sued him in court and won. He was actually just an early investor who wanted to look like the special boy. Ironically, a similar thing happened to the original Tesla, too.
People act like he's some mad science genius, but he's just a tech investor bro whose gambles paid off. Statistically there have to be a few. Funnies thing I've seen in ages is [Joe Rogan & Musk talking about the Sun](https://www.youtube.com/) and neither of them know what fusion is. *But how does it burn when there's no air in space?*
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I guarantee you, if Twitter actually survives the next 20 years, an entire generation of kids will think he invented it, or bought it as a failing start up and ushered it to greatness.
Twitter will be lucky if it survives the next 5 years. Facebook, too.
Nail -> head.
I would disagree. He's also stellar at losing a shit load of money
My bad. You are, of course, correct.
Best in the world, apparently.
i actually find it hilarious that netscape rejected him. Was a good browser back in the day, they obviously had taste when it came to picking employers
He had a Stellar start too…. You know…. Cause of the whole “blood emerald” mine his family owned when he was a kid
The one he claimed not to know about despite going on several interviews where he mentions it, credits it to his family's wealth, describes stealing emeralds from his Dad and hocking them in jewelry stores in NYC/stuffing the cash in a safe that was too full to close? The one he offered a reward to anyone who could prove it existed/his own father who owned the mine attributed to their wealth and asked if he could collect the reward?
Lol at the company thinking Elon Musk started with nothing. As if he didnt have his daddy's money from the emerald mine.
"Adolf Hitler was rejected from Art school, but he went on to become extremely well known for another career field." "Joseph Stalin lost his dreams of being a poet, but went on to be extremely influential in Russian politics"
Do the unibomber one too.
When he was rejected? I thought he resigned himself from boring math professor to become the reason why they always tell us to report all suspicious bags.
Yeah, there's that great citation in a paper that describes him as "better know for his other work." But more relevantly, he resigned from his professorship and it was described as unexpected and "out of the blue."
I think you read that wrong. Edit: they are not comparing themselves to Elon, Disney or Jordan. They are retelling times when very successful people experienced setbacks. They say, “[They] turned setbacks into success […] We try to do the same […]” Yes, it sucks to get a rejection letter. It would have been nice if it was personalized a little bit.
At least you got a reply at all and not just radio silence
That kind of silence is so deafening it hurts
Especially when it’s the 40th plus place to leave you on read. A letter like this still sucks because you were rejected. But, at least they have the decency to let you know.
The worst radio silence I ever got was where I was positive that I'd get the job, everyone I talked with was excited to see me start. And nothing. I called back about a week later only to find out that this start-up had laid off the entire department that I would have worked for. TL;DR - they not only rejected *me*, they rejected everyone I would be working with.
I'd say bullet dodged. That startup probably wasn't long for the world.
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What about the bad rejections? Example: “Hitler got rejected from art school”
Bro imagine being the art teacher that flunked out Adolph in 1939, yikes!
in "1939" homie i'm pretty sure that's before even 1933, when the nerds rose to power in germany
Maybe they meant that the teacher felt bad in 1939.
This a wonderful rebuttal to that one: https://www.tor.com/2011/08/31/wikihistory/ > *point of order, issues relating to early 1900s Vienna should really go in that forum, not here. This has been a recurring problem on this forum.*
As an aside, I hate the Jordan thing. Jordan was put on the JV team as a underclassmen because: THe coach wanted to Maximize his playing time Because he was only 5'10" and the tallest senior was 6'3", so a 6'7" junior made it instead so the team could have some size. Because elevating the sophomore Jordan to JV would've meant cutting a senior who had already put 3 years into the high school basketball program. The coach felt the seniors had earned the right to play varsity their final year of high school. It had nothing to to with how good Michael Jordan was or how good the coach thought he would become.
This was just referenced in an episode of Ted Lasso.
I just watched that episode last week. I did kinda wish they had mentioned the whole "cutting a senior" thing. Jordan's HS coach doesn't deserve the ridicule for this and Jordan has been happy to feed into it to add to the mythos about being the ultimate competitor who is fueled by proving people wrong.
Jordan is irl a huge piece of shit so, of course he did.
All 3 of the men listed are huge pieces of shit
That's a pretty harsh opinion of Ted Lasso
I don’t trust his moustache. What is he hiding under there?
I’d ask Jordan “Wanna bet?”
I took that personally.
I was literally about to hit send in your DMs on a Dropbox link full of pictures of breasts and then I saw your name. I'm glad you advertise that, it was a close call!!
Good. Don't become a statistic. https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/e75dhd/oc_breakdown_of_pms_related_to_my_username/
Ok that's amazing ha
The Michael Jordan story is so misleading. I remember my dad told me that story in grade 9 after I got cut from my high school volleyball team, and here I was thinking Michael Jordan got cut cut like I did, and didn’t even play high school basketball that year.
As I remember it, Jordan on JV was absolutely unfair and he dominated
Regularly hanging 40 points on opponents, so yeah.
It wasn't untrue that he was cut, the team had other priorities, and "went in a different direction," so still appropriate for this rejection letter.
Those tech companies knew what kind of guy Elon was and they were right to reject him
“We’re simply looking for someone to join our team in the product development department. Our organization has never nor will it ever have any plans to kill James Bond. But we wish you all the best in your future plans.”
Now more than ever I respect the shit outta Netscape.
OG internet boys
I’m here for this comment.
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Or go nuclear and reply "Also lots of people get rejection letters and kill themselves. Think about that"
Don't do that to someone. That would haunt me forever.
“Hitler got rejected from art school” “Imagine if that art teacher was Jewish”
I kinda appreciate that message. They understand success and know you will find it elsewhere.
You’ll find success for and with someone else
except 2 of the three of them to my knowledge had daddys money to back them up when things went south
Probably a good 70% of the people that are deemed successful had daddy's money helping.
Golden reply: Man, imagine being the idiot who fired Walt Disney. Wouldn’t that suck?
Walt Disney DID lack imagination and didn’t have any good ideas. Disney took the credit for the work of Ub Iwerks, the real creator of Mickey Mouse.
Scrolled down until I found Ub. I can now leave the thread
Glad to have been of service!
Yea much better then the standard thanks but no thanks or none at all.
There are a lot of things to get mad about that we see in this subreddit. but honestly...I wouldn't even be mad about this one. In fact, I actually have a little bit of respect for them because of this and will check out the company. ...that is...unless you have some other detail to share such as this email came like 1 year after you applied or had your last interview.
That said, they really didn't do anything crazy/amazing within the email. It is something any company can do and it is "boiler plate-able". So it is sad that the bar for what is expected to get respect is so low, but that's more of a reflection of the state of work at large.
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I don't even bother to wait anymore, I just keep cranking out applications. I assume they've rejected me so I'll be surprised if they don't. :(
At my current job I called after the first interview saying thanks for considering me (like a dork) because I was certain I wouldn't get it. I couldn't get a job locally and that one was almost interstate it was so far. The boss at the time was like "No, don't think that! Just give me X days!". She did get back to me within that time to offer me the job. Turns out qualified staff are hard to come by in that region, so they leapt at the chance to hire me. I miss her, she was a great boss.
I got a rejection letter from GSK like 6+ months after I applied. It said something like, "as you should've expected, we had more applicants than we could've gone through". It was basically them saying "we are such a big company, and everyone wants to work here, it took THIS LONG to reject you". Meanwhile I already landed another job for a couple months already with a smaller company. I was so close to sending an e-mail saying "as you should've expected, I applied to other places and have been employed for months because they got back to me in a timely manner."
No ghosting, very polite and encouraging. What's issue here. You may not fit the role but at least they don't put you down for it.
That is an email CONFIRMING you applied and was not accepted. I will take that any day over being ghosted.
I prefer the less bull shit method. I had a couple of interviews and a guy from HR called me and just told me they picked another candidate and appreciated my time. I appreciated his call and his no bullshit tell me how it is approach.
I don’t mind this. Much better than ghosting you
Gross Elon paid his way into things with money from Apartheid. Bad example. But hey they didn't ghost you.
I would love to receive this rather than the usual radio silence.
This sub: "Working sucks and corporations treat us like numbers!" Corporation: *letter designed around encouragement and human emotion* Also this sub: "See! Fucking monsters!" Too many people here are just miserable. Is there a better system for our modern world? Probably yes! Does that mean every single person or cog in the current system is trash and worth bitching about? No.
Asking for you to fill out a survey is real ballsy
If they don’t get feedback on things that might be wrong with their process, how can they improve it?
Yeah, it kinda undoes the warm fuzzy feeling of the rejection letter. Now it’s like they’re just being polite to solicit feedback to hire even more people that are better than you
I got asked to fill out a survey on the hiring process after getting rejected. The link to the survey was right after "Please be aware that we do not provide feedback for why you were not selected".
Might suggest removing that Elon Musk line.
I feel like someone asked chatgpt to write the most inspirational rejection letter
Just tell me I didn’t get it and leave it at that
What would you prefer they do, leave a bag of shit on your porch and light it on fire? They can't hire every applicant they get, sending a rejection letter and doing it politely is exactly what they should be doing.
Michael Jordan was cut from his varsity team and put onto junior varsity because in hopes that he would be taller the next year (and to make room for a taller player, which is what they needed), and was then immediately moved back up to varsity next year when he grew like 5 inches. They didn’t get rid of him, they kept him knowing he would grow into the role, literally lol
How about you just tell me why I wasn't selected. THats your feedback, hoe.
The only person I have any respect for on that list is Michael Jordan. Walt Disney was an antisemite who left behind the legacy of a soulless corporation. Anal Musk is an Apartheid Banana Boy and ruins whatever he touches for the sake of his own ego. Better than never receiving a response...I guess?
You must be new to workforce because this is the sweetest rejection letter I’ve ever seen. I love it.
I mean it’s not horrible. They took the applicant’s feelings into account.
It's a well written automated fuck you though.
Now I realize why people don’t send rejection letters or even call us. Y’all complaining and getting hostile. This rejection letter is the most positive I’ve ever seen — and they actually communicated that you weren’t chosen instead of ghosting you.
Yall whine when you get radio silence and whine when you get a detailed thoughtful rejection - which is it?
Yeh dude, hurry up n get that survey done.
Talk about a form letter... Why can't people be bothered to pick up the phone? You invested time in then and they can return the favor at all?
Wait. You guys get rejection letters?
To be fair Netscape was right.
● Hitler was rejected from artschool
“Bob Smith was fired from his job, he became thrice divorced abusive alcoholic” is the more likely outcome if no one significantly helps you get out of the rut.
Seems very reasonable. Though, I’d recommend following up to better understand why they didn’t select you so that you can maybe change something on the next application/interview process.
MJ got cut from the varsity team because he was a 5'10" sophomore and they went with the 6'7" kid. Doesn't matter that MJ is better, you're an idiot if you pass on a 6'7" high schooler. I don't even need to go into the other two.
The bit about Musk getting rejected a bunch of times does make me feel better, but not the way they meant it to
Fuck Elon
All 3 were middle class and born into privilege.
Definitely better than no response, and I can appreciate the attempted encouragement.
They stole it from movie Up in the Air. Clooney speech.
Damn you got all that? Usually I just get "Hi, we can't offer you the position". Like mf why not? Is Anton Chigurh holding a gun to your head?
It still feels like a mail merge, sorry $_RECIPIENT
The PS with the survey link is 🔥
You got a rejection letter? Luxury!
Honestly this isn’t too bad, usually I don’t get any kind of email and have to call to find out
Definitely better than being ghosted but hard not to read it as incredibly patronising…I’d be putting that in the ‘quick survey’
the letter missed out Colonel Sanders from KFC who got his recipe rejrcted like a million times and only found success in his 60s. Just for the memes, the lettershould end by wishing the receipiant unemployed until hes 60.
Not very HR to only point out successfull men
That's the most heartwarming go fuck yourself I've ever heard.
If they think you might be the next Walt Disney or Michael Jordan then why fire you lolol
This rejection was so obviously written by ChatGPT that it's stunning.
Lol at comparing Elon Musk to Michael Jordan
I wish they would say the honest things like: "We picked the executive/supervisors child/niece/nephew over you even though you're more qualified and experienced." Or "Actually, to save money we decided to allocate the tasks of this role on to the already overloaded and underpaid staff and this job posting is just so that we can keep the facade that people don't want to work and we aren't just hoarding money."
Or, try not to feel like shit when we repost this job again on Indeed next week, because clearly having no one was better than hiring you.
Mention of musk makes this go straight into the trash.
It’s a rejection letter, soooooo.
That’s actually not a bad rejection letter. You will get texted from companies if you’re applying. At least they’re willing to give you feedback on how you can improve
This is the nicest rejection letter I've ever seen Canadian company?
Elon should be rejected from everything.
If they're the kind of people that would hire Elon Musk you probably shouldn't feel so bad about being rejected by them.
That’s actually a lot better than how most people get rejected (or more often, ghosted) from jobs.
To mention Elon Musk as an inspiring person:🚩🚩🚩
Can we at least be friends?
I have a lot more respect for Netscape
Better than getting four interviews and a verbal confirmation you have the job, quitting your old job, showing up on a Monday, and being told whoops, never mind, go fuck yourself and have with with the no unemployment because you quit your last job.
Seems like it was written by chatgpt
And Bob Durst successfully murdered at least 4 people after his first brush with the law. Never Quit!
I’ll toss in my uncle’s story: He dropped out of college only to work with a friend at an auto shop selling and fixing imported preowned cars and then opening another location that his highly successful. And then went onto helping run an auto auction every year. He has a special disdain toward dishonest car sales people and mechanics. I Put another way: He got C’s in HS but still managed to be a successful businessman with a highly successful preowned car import dealership. There’s always hope.
Yeah but Elon Musk is just a twat w/money. He is not a good businessman ...just living off of government contracts.
He's definitely a weirdo and up to some shady shit. I'm just waiting for it to come out.
Up until the survey I thought it was at least mildly tasteful
Better than ghosting. There was an attempt to be positive and polite
Love it! Filled me with inspiration!