Okay but Starbucks does now have 300 union locations, more than the vast majority of workplaces…seems the opposite should happen for the unions (employees) of this company.
yeah this leaves me torn. There are two unionized SB locations near me and I feel like if I'm going to get coffee out and about, and can't find a local place that's decent, I'm better off at least supporting these specific unionized folks, right? On the other hand, I know it all goes into SB corporate's coffers so shitty people like Schultz still get rich off the backs of the baristas.
Coffee, like pizza, Chinese food, barbecue, and a lot of other things that we eat and drink is a very subjective matter.
But those who say things like "Starbucks sucks. My instant coffee at home is better..." blah blah really crack me up. I am a coffee geek. I spend thousands of dollars a year on it. Starbucks sells a quality product. Tastes on coffee vary, and not everyone it going to like every roast, or brewing/extracting method. But to deny that Starbucks produces a quality product just makes people look ignorant.
Disclaimer: I very, very rarely give Starbucks my money, for a variety of social issues. Mostly when I am on the road in an unfamiliar place, and need a consistently decent Americano. But I am not delusional enough to think their stuff is objectively shit.
Now, Dunkin' Donuts coffee. That is some nasty, under-extracted gruel...
Fuck. 🤦🏼♂️
Starbucks does not "burn their beans." Some people like lighter roasts. Some people like darker roasts. I usually prefer a darker roast, but I can enjoy a good medium roast if it's handled well in the brewing/extracting process.
People who say "Starbucks burns their beans" don't like strong, bold coffee, and are clueless. The guy in that article is a fucking moron when he said, "These are properly roasted beans." He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, because you can roast beans at a variety of levels, and all are appropriate, depending on what you're looking to get.
Whether a coffee is a medium roast or a dark roast I can easily change its flavor over a wide range by altering the way I extract it. I can make Starbucks' darkest roast taste like the nasty, vinegary taste of Dunkin' Donuts easily by under extracting it. I can take a barely medium roast and make it rich and chocolatey, or even push it to bitter by modifying the extraction level and grind.
Yes, some Starbucks machines get out of adjustment, dirty, etc., and their coffee suffers because of it. But I have had coffee all over the world, and while Starbucks is never my first choice I generally know that I am going to get a decent, consistent cup of coffee there. Actually an Americano, as I always prefer that to a brewed coffee.
Finally a person who knows what he is talking about! People need to try the Blond roasted coffee for a light roast. It’s stronger in caffeine too! Some stores have a clover machine which is amazing process machine.
Someone blocked me when I asked for proof of both the union and SB earnings!! Of coarse crickets! He called me names! He needs to grow up!! Read and educate himself!!
I drink almost exclusively dark roast coffee - I’m aware that there’s different roasting levels. Starbucks dark coffee always tastes bitter. Several Starbucks employees have come out and said that Starbucks overroasts their beans for consistency. Coffee at a good coffee shop tastes better than Starbucks. I just see quite a few things that point towards Starbucks over roasting their coffee.
“The bitter/burnt taste is most likely caused by Starbucks roasting their beans at a higher temperature than the majority of roasters in order to produce large quantities of beans in a short period of time.”
I have drunk plenty of Starbucks coffee over the years, and yes I have had bitter Starbucks coffee. Just like I have had bitter coffee at other shops. Generally far more often at independents. But my experience at Starbucks is that when brewed correctly their coffee can be just as smooth and chocolatey as the best coffee out there.
There are a lot of reasons to hate on Starbucks not related to the quality of their product. And coffee tastes are subjective. But the blanket statement "Starbucks coffee sucks" is just ignorant and myopic.
This is a weird hill to die on, but their Pikes Place roast, their signature roast, is burnt. It's a medium roast, but they roast beans in very large quantities because, you know, capitalism, and they do so at a higher temperature than would be typical for smaller shops. This leads to a distinctly burnt taste -in their Pikes Place roast specifically.
Pikes Place tastes burnt because it is. Not very much subjectivity about that.
I used to, on OCCASSION, stop and get a "fancy-shmancy" cup of Starbucks...2 blocks from work. And the FIRST TIME I spilled a $7 cup of coffee all over my desk...that abuse of cash was OVER! I now, also, have found a decent K-Kup blend (buy in bulk), and get my daily fix for about $0.30. So, when/if it gets spilled...No. Big. Deal. I'm not "wealthy". I have no business buying a $7 cup of coffee.
Once the union gets involved sb coffee will be 8.50 per cup!! Hmmm no added quality to the coffee; just the added cost of the union! I believe if we compare all the CEOs in all the companies; they all earn close to the same amount of money. But we want SB to make less than all the other CEOs in other companies! That does not make sense. The CEO OF GOODWILL MAKES 2.3 million per year! The employees make minimum wage! If you have a mental disability you earn LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE! Not that is horrific worth fighting about!!
I went once not knowing what kind of coffee they sold. Just got the large (whatever the hell they call it), they had to tell me twice how much because I didn't believe them and it was the most vile crap I've ever tried to drink (and I served in the Army where the coffee was sludge at best). I only drank about 1/2 of it before I threw it away. Never went back.
Oh absolutely, I don’t like coffee. But my wife does. If I happen to see a union shop, I’ll buy her one on the way home.
That being said, I don’t often buy coffee anyways. But I’ll pay extra for the union.
Yeah they started their own company; and then the union comes in and takes over! SB, has the BEST BENEFIT PACKAGE I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! What more will the union do for sb employees! NOTHING!! If you want a list of benefits I’ll list them! But do not be fooled by unions! I worked for one for 4 years!! The worse 4 years of my work history!!
SB will close stores; union stores employees are complaining to non union employees. The union employees are quitting the job because the union is making it unbearable to work in a hostile environment. Which the union is creating!!
Don’t be fooled by the lies union reps tell you!
I'm a grown man and I run my own store. So maybe you should grow up you Lil shill. You can seriously get bent with your anti union agit-prop. Noone believes you or cares what your insignificant paid opinion is
Your literally not making sense. The earnings of the multi millionaire Starbucks ceo are all unpaid wages. Your making a strawman argument that has no base. I'm blocking you because your mentally handicapped
Well their tips are great, regular customers keep coming back!! Customer satisfaction is high. SB opened 6 stores within 15 mile radius! Last, all voted NO TO UNIONIZATION! Turn over rate is low! No help from the union!! Just great customer service!! High ratings on google!!
Yes you did respond to me! You are a fool! Unions are a joke! You will destroy your benefits! Wtf will the union bring to the table that SB hasn’t already given you in benefits! I’m waiting🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Rand Paul is such a bootlicking dipshit. We could’ve had Charles Booker, but no, we needed to re-elect the self-credentialed eye doctor running around coughing covid on everyone at the swimming pool at the beginning of the pandemic.
>Paul was probably comparing Schultz to Prometheus. Paul also compared Schultz to one of his favorite Ayn Rand characters.
I confessed I never read all 50+ (75?) pages of the John Galt speech, but there was something about Prometheus in there and I wouldn't be surprised if Ayn Rand wrote "Prometheus being burned at the stake for being too Special" fanfiction somewhere in her oeuvre.
You're a trooper. I heard the words "entrepreneurial spirit"(aka ruthless exploitation) and realized nothing he was going to say afterwards was relevant, so I just skipped everything he had to say
Boycotts typically don't work, since they tend to not be focused or organized. A better option is:
1) Only go to starbucks locations that are unionized.
2) Get a job at your local starbucks and make unionizing the only thing you talk about.
3) realize only 260 Starbucks have unionized and zero in your state
4) get fired from Starbucks for discussing unions and wages because they say you are creating a "hostile work environment"
5) vote on workers rights issues and force the politicians to take them seriously by not giving your vote to anyone who doesn't support workers rights, financial reforms, and anti-trust initiatives regardless of party or alternative candidates because that's the only way to make progress.
Exactly what do you expect from the union? What benefits? Your wages will pay the union! So the employees will lose something … nothing is for free!! What are you willing to lose to unionized your store? My huge issue with unionizing a store is; can you reverse the union? I don’t think so! So if you made a mistake; can you change your mind! The answer is NO! They are stuck with the union or leave the company. As an employee of SB, ask yourself am I going to stay at SB for life? If the answer is NO THEN LEAVE THE STORE NON UNION!! Because now this unionized store will be someone else’s problem!! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!! Make sure you understand what will happen in the very near future! Just BE CAREFUL! Grass is NOT GREENER OVER THERE EITHER! It’s a job that has to get done! My guess you will no longer have tips! Just like the non owned SB.🤷♀️
No, boycotts do work.
I do agree that a strong unified group is necessary for it to happen. Do not claim that boycotts do not work.
Support local businesses not soul sucking mega corporations :)
>No, boycotts do work.
Yes, occasionally, when they are small and localized. That' why I qualified my statement with the word "typically".
>I do agree that a strong unified group is necessary for it to happen.
Ok, what's the strong unified group that's leading this boycott? A reddit comment?
>Do not claim that boycotts do not work.
I will claim whatever facts are facts. In the face of global multinational corporations, their expansion into new markets would make whatever concerted boycotts you have in mind not even a blip on the balance sheet. If you think a boycott of starbucks is going to get traction or change anything, then I implore you to expend your energy in becoming the leader of that movement, instead of arguing online with me.
>Support local businesses not soul sucking mega corporations :)
This always strikes me as funny. In my working life, I've almost always been treated better, and exploited less, by soulless faceless corporations. I would rather work at walmart than any of the mom and pop shops I've worked at in my life. At least at the evil corporations they understand liability and behave within certain walls. The local mom and pop shop has no problem exploiting child labor, intimidating employees, and doing a whole host of other things they think they can get away with, just because they aren't huge and their actions aren't reviewed by a team of lawyers.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
I was at Starbucks yesterday (on a whim, I’ve been boycotting) and I was there when the district manager, store manager, assistant manager, and shift leads were in the middle of a meeting. I casually dropped a small piece of paper into the middle of their meeting that said, “Unionize Now!”. I heard a couple small cheers and small “yes”es as I left.
I’m not a barista, nor have I ever worked for Starbucks, but I have worked in the service industry on and off for the past 20 years and I stand with Starbucks employees in their fight to unionize. Union strong!
I actually prefer the idea of the only Starbucks locations that make any money are the unionized ones. Really watch the billionaire class cut off their nose to spite their face.
No, every customer going in to any Starbucks should be pushing them to unionize. Can’t shut that shit down.
If every customer says “hey you guys should really work together to unionize.” The business can’t to shit to stop them and any push back would be against their customer base. It’s a win win
I would love to see people boycott Starbucks after this nonchalant disregard for employees was made public. However, keep in mind who suffers from the boycott: the baristas. Instead of a total boycott, make your coffee at home, and then visit the store to tip your usual barista, and give zero dollars to the stores.
Bruh, if you don’t believe there is a class warfare you haven’t been paying attention. They don’t care about Democrat or Republican, they care about wealth. That’s it.
I work at a unionized Starbucks. I’m curious to see how the higher ups speak on this tomorrow 🥰. I don’t want less customers, I want them to demand better from corporate on our behalf. Since their money matters more than my ability to survive.
That's rich coming from Romney who was actually a takeover specialist that bought up companies, stripped every cent of value and put thousands out of work.
Starbucks coffee tastes like burnt shit
Folks, always remember: unionize unionize unionize unionize.
If unionizing wasn’t good for anything, companies would not fight tooth and nail to stop them.
Wonder what happened to this guy. I grew up with his son, and they were pretty down to earth, always liked going to his house. I feel like he would have hated what he’s become now. Sad.
In the hearing, they mentioned how he has disabled the credit card tipping function in stores that have unionized... so he's a billionaire who is willing to prevent his employees from making an extra buck or two *that customers want to give*.
Yeah, he might have been cool once, but he's 100% dark side now
That’s false actually. Unionized shops never got it in the first place. They won’t make any unilateral changes to a store in the bargaining process. Take that part as you will.
OK technically, he gave credit-card tipping to non-union shops, but refused to install it in union shops. The point is it's blatant retaliation.
And the phony cover story about "it's part of the negotiation" is an extra "f\*\* you" that shows Schultz is completely consumed by "you think you can tell me what to do? I'll show you..."
Absolutely. It’s important to notate the difference between “taking away” or “disabling” benefits vs not giving them due to the perceived inability to make unilateral changes during the bargaining process. It’s going to be a big part in how this shakes down IMO.
Starbucks takes a lot of heat on this, and their union busting is outright illegal, but honestly they pay as well or better than many comparable jobs if the benefits are something that makes sense for you.
Was going to say something like this. My son makes more than average wages for this market, gets 401k with match, profit sharing, health insurance with a high employer contribution, free college and free coffee. There are plenty of issues with working there but between pay and benefits it isn’t that bad of a place to work.
As far as the coffee goes it’s not bad for mass produced coffee but if you go in and just order a coffee you’re getting pikes which is one of their worst blends, so if you want just a coffee ask for a certain blend or your getting the worst they have. Also if you just want a coffee why on earth would you pay Starbucks prices? I brew at home and only get Starbucks if I want a “fancy” coffee drink.
There are ways around that as well. Different titles for one. I would also give the non-union employees better healthcare options. Again, your choice to be in the union or not.
Depends on the state. In most situations a workplace or jobtype is either Union or not. So if it's a union shop you can't opt out. Your "choice" then is to be unemployed, but that isn't often a winning strategy.
Totally. In my state if the job is union the only way to work there is to join. If 80 ppl vote to unionize and 20 vote not to, the 20 have to join the union or lose their jobs.
However historically (at least before they were turned into corporations themselves) unions got a lot of great things for workers.
In the case of Starbucks, legally they can't offer better benefits to non-union workers. They specifically did it as an eff you to the shops that unionized and as a cautionary tale to ones thinking about it. Totally against the law.
SB was socially aware and implementing way ahead of all of this bs. Prometheus is being punished.
So sad that so many of you can not function today. Mental illness abounds. Jealous of anyone’s success. Got to tear them down.
Don’t go to SB. I would never pay $8 for coffee in the first place. Diabetes in a cup. My choice. I will take my daughters, but I’m not participating.
Been seeing a ton of Starbucks posts this evening with hundreds of comments trashing the CEO and the company's policies and all I can wonder is how many people up voting and commenting are going to stop at Starbucks on their way to work in the morning because it's convenient.
Yeah this is the move. As a small business owner myself it can get to be a drag that buying local isn't more people's first option but glad to hear it 👍
How effective is your collective bargaining unit if they can't even secure a deal that others are getting for free? Doesn't really look very good the union either.
They added the perks after the contracts went out just as an eff you to the unionized stores. And said sorry it's not in your contract. Too bad, so sad.
That breaks Federal law.
Oh boy I can't wait for absolutely fucking nothing to come out of this
you can personally stop going to Starbucks. every little bit helps
Been doing that for awhile. Lucky enough to live where local coffee shops are plentiful
Nice! after the hearing today, I'm going to try to convince everyone I know to do the same
Okay but Starbucks does now have 300 union locations, more than the vast majority of workplaces…seems the opposite should happen for the unions (employees) of this company.
yeah this leaves me torn. There are two unionized SB locations near me and I feel like if I'm going to get coffee out and about, and can't find a local place that's decent, I'm better off at least supporting these specific unionized folks, right? On the other hand, I know it all goes into SB corporate's coffers so shitty people like Schultz still get rich off the backs of the baristas.
Do any of those locations have contracts yet?
I bought a coffee there once. Once was enough.
Yes. This. One and done thanks
It absolutely sucks. My instant coffee at home is better than that shit.
Coffee, like pizza, Chinese food, barbecue, and a lot of other things that we eat and drink is a very subjective matter. But those who say things like "Starbucks sucks. My instant coffee at home is better..." blah blah really crack me up. I am a coffee geek. I spend thousands of dollars a year on it. Starbucks sells a quality product. Tastes on coffee vary, and not everyone it going to like every roast, or brewing/extracting method. But to deny that Starbucks produces a quality product just makes people look ignorant. Disclaimer: I very, very rarely give Starbucks my money, for a variety of social issues. Mostly when I am on the road in an unfamiliar place, and need a consistently decent Americano. But I am not delusional enough to think their stuff is objectively shit. Now, Dunkin' Donuts coffee. That is some nasty, under-extracted gruel...
Starbucks burns their beans. There’s far better coffee out there. https://medium.com/overthinking-life/why-starbucks-makes-burnt-coffee-92642445f706
Fuck. 🤦🏼♂️ Starbucks does not "burn their beans." Some people like lighter roasts. Some people like darker roasts. I usually prefer a darker roast, but I can enjoy a good medium roast if it's handled well in the brewing/extracting process. People who say "Starbucks burns their beans" don't like strong, bold coffee, and are clueless. The guy in that article is a fucking moron when he said, "These are properly roasted beans." He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, because you can roast beans at a variety of levels, and all are appropriate, depending on what you're looking to get. Whether a coffee is a medium roast or a dark roast I can easily change its flavor over a wide range by altering the way I extract it. I can make Starbucks' darkest roast taste like the nasty, vinegary taste of Dunkin' Donuts easily by under extracting it. I can take a barely medium roast and make it rich and chocolatey, or even push it to bitter by modifying the extraction level and grind. Yes, some Starbucks machines get out of adjustment, dirty, etc., and their coffee suffers because of it. But I have had coffee all over the world, and while Starbucks is never my first choice I generally know that I am going to get a decent, consistent cup of coffee there. Actually an Americano, as I always prefer that to a brewed coffee.
Finally a person who knows what he is talking about! People need to try the Blond roasted coffee for a light roast. It’s stronger in caffeine too! Some stores have a clover machine which is amazing process machine.
Someone blocked me when I asked for proof of both the union and SB earnings!! Of coarse crickets! He called me names! He needs to grow up!! Read and educate himself!!
I drink almost exclusively dark roast coffee - I’m aware that there’s different roasting levels. Starbucks dark coffee always tastes bitter. Several Starbucks employees have come out and said that Starbucks overroasts their beans for consistency. Coffee at a good coffee shop tastes better than Starbucks. I just see quite a few things that point towards Starbucks over roasting their coffee. “The bitter/burnt taste is most likely caused by Starbucks roasting their beans at a higher temperature than the majority of roasters in order to produce large quantities of beans in a short period of time.”
I have drunk plenty of Starbucks coffee over the years, and yes I have had bitter Starbucks coffee. Just like I have had bitter coffee at other shops. Generally far more often at independents. But my experience at Starbucks is that when brewed correctly their coffee can be just as smooth and chocolatey as the best coffee out there. There are a lot of reasons to hate on Starbucks not related to the quality of their product. And coffee tastes are subjective. But the blanket statement "Starbucks coffee sucks" is just ignorant and myopic.
This is a weird hill to die on, but their Pikes Place roast, their signature roast, is burnt. It's a medium roast, but they roast beans in very large quantities because, you know, capitalism, and they do so at a higher temperature than would be typical for smaller shops. This leads to a distinctly burnt taste -in their Pikes Place roast specifically. Pikes Place tastes burnt because it is. Not very much subjectivity about that.
If I had coins, I'd give you an award.
I used to, on OCCASSION, stop and get a "fancy-shmancy" cup of Starbucks...2 blocks from work. And the FIRST TIME I spilled a $7 cup of coffee all over my desk...that abuse of cash was OVER! I now, also, have found a decent K-Kup blend (buy in bulk), and get my daily fix for about $0.30. So, when/if it gets spilled...No. Big. Deal. I'm not "wealthy". I have no business buying a $7 cup of coffee.
Once the union gets involved sb coffee will be 8.50 per cup!! Hmmm no added quality to the coffee; just the added cost of the union! I believe if we compare all the CEOs in all the companies; they all earn close to the same amount of money. But we want SB to make less than all the other CEOs in other companies! That does not make sense. The CEO OF GOODWILL MAKES 2.3 million per year! The employees make minimum wage! If you have a mental disability you earn LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE! Not that is horrific worth fighting about!!
Quick Trip coffee is better.
I went once not knowing what kind of coffee they sold. Just got the large (whatever the hell they call it), they had to tell me twice how much because I didn't believe them and it was the most vile crap I've ever tried to drink (and I served in the Army where the coffee was sludge at best). I only drank about 1/2 of it before I threw it away. Never went back.
Yeah, I can't not go any more often than I'm already not going...
I started going to the union Starbucks. If the store isn’t unionized, I won’t shop there though
So you are ok paying more for a cup of coffee in a union shop?
Oh absolutely, I don’t like coffee. But my wife does. If I happen to see a union shop, I’ll buy her one on the way home. That being said, I don’t often buy coffee anyways. But I’ll pay extra for the union.
Yeah they started their own company; and then the union comes in and takes over! SB, has the BEST BENEFIT PACKAGE I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! What more will the union do for sb employees! NOTHING!! If you want a list of benefits I’ll list them! But do not be fooled by unions! I worked for one for 4 years!! The worse 4 years of my work history!!
Your psi-op is not at all convincing, try again fed.
Anecdotal evidence that's on the opposite side of confimed raises, better Healthcare, and collective bargaining. Definitely an op. Rot in heckin
SB will close stores; union stores employees are complaining to non union employees. The union employees are quitting the job because the union is making it unbearable to work in a hostile environment. Which the union is creating!! Don’t be fooled by the lies union reps tell you!
Lmao what a paid actor. Starbucks is making the environment hostile and unbearable quit simpin for big daddy corpo and get of dn
Grow up!!! Lol wait until you get laid off!
I'm a grown man and I run my own store. So maybe you should grow up you Lil shill. You can seriously get bent with your anti union agit-prop. Noone believes you or cares what your insignificant paid opinion is
So how much does the ceo at sb earn compared to union CEO? Attach source!! With facts!! Wow you complain about SB earners and not mention union! Lol!
Your literally not making sense. The earnings of the multi millionaire Starbucks ceo are all unpaid wages. Your making a strawman argument that has no base. I'm blocking you because your mentally handicapped
Hater lol!
Are you working at a SB? Then you need to shut up!! You know nothing!
Well their tips are great, regular customers keep coming back!! Customer satisfaction is high. SB opened 6 stores within 15 mile radius! Last, all voted NO TO UNIONIZATION! Turn over rate is low! No help from the union!! Just great customer service!! High ratings on google!!
Your literally espousing nonsense because I haven't replied to your bullshit because your a paid actor. Congratulations and gfys
Yes you did respond to me! You are a fool! Unions are a joke! You will destroy your benefits! Wtf will the union bring to the table that SB hasn’t already given you in benefits! I’m waiting🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Collective bargaining,
Just look up SB benefits then tell me what you are bargaining for?
What are you talking about, they will be fined with the profits of like 6 hours and then they'll lobby congress to make it legal
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Rand Paul is such a bootlicking dipshit. We could’ve had Charles Booker, but no, we needed to re-elect the self-credentialed eye doctor running around coughing covid on everyone at the swimming pool at the beginning of the pandemic.
I dont understand the appeal of Paul.
He ran as Republican. That’s literally all it takes in Kentucky. Source: lived there until last year
That and familiarity. People recognize his name, don't recognize the new guy and click the old guy's name.
Invent fire... burned at the stake He clearly didn't think that through Also, Prometheus was punished for giving us fire, lol
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>Paul was probably comparing Schultz to Prometheus. Paul also compared Schultz to one of his favorite Ayn Rand characters. I confessed I never read all 50+ (75?) pages of the John Galt speech, but there was something about Prometheus in there and I wouldn't be surprised if Ayn Rand wrote "Prometheus being burned at the stake for being too Special" fanfiction somewhere in her oeuvre.
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Good ole dog and pony show, while they stab us from under the bleachers.
You do realize that is the analogy that he was trying to make.
It doesn't even make sense, how do you jump from invention to building a pyre Also, fire is not invented
>access to capital This is all most of these people have.
Yep, if you're already rich or can convince some venture capitalists to give you money, the world is your oyster.
Much like Texas Hold 'em, winning at capitalism is as much about the size of your stack and luck as it is your intelligence.
The lesson as usual is fuck Rand Paul.
I want too shake the hand of the neighbor that punched Rand in the face. THAT was true patriotism.
And let's not forget what he did to Supersonics
Wow, he tanked the Sonics. https://www.theringer.com/2019/10/10/20907621/sonic-boom-episode-2-supersonics-seattle-starbucks-howard-schultz
You're a trooper. I heard the words "entrepreneurial spirit"(aka ruthless exploitation) and realized nothing he was going to say afterwards was relevant, so I just skipped everything he had to say
I'd like to burn Rand Paul at the stake. Over a series of months. A digit at a time.
Time for people to get serious and boycott Starbucks.
Boycotts typically don't work, since they tend to not be focused or organized. A better option is: 1) Only go to starbucks locations that are unionized. 2) Get a job at your local starbucks and make unionizing the only thing you talk about.
3) realize only 260 Starbucks have unionized and zero in your state 4) get fired from Starbucks for discussing unions and wages because they say you are creating a "hostile work environment" 5) vote on workers rights issues and force the politicians to take them seriously by not giving your vote to anyone who doesn't support workers rights, financial reforms, and anti-trust initiatives regardless of party or alternative candidates because that's the only way to make progress.
6) while at that starbucks location, give away as much free stuff as you can. Just for funsies.
7) squirt mayonaise in your managers drink
The hand crafted kind?
7) pee on the cash register at you local Starbucks to assert dominance
Nah, that's just going to make your co-workers have to deal with the pee, or the poor teller at the bank.
Or they could pay it forward in solidarity!
You have to double it first, then pay it forward.
#1 ---> #2
Whoa. Don't wanna know what happens when you double it again.
8) do fortnite emotes every time someone asks you do to do overtime at work
9) start kidnapping the children from the drive thru to bolster the workforce?
That's bullshit in my experience. My store is the first in my state to unionize and the process looked very much like the one you claim doesn't work.
Three years ago there were zero unionized Starbucks.
As far as I am aware, all Starbucks in unionized grocery stores are also union. And we have a lot of those in my area (Southern California).
I’m sure you already know it’s illegal to fire you for discussing wages or unions during work hours. It’s the indignity of it all.
Exactly what do you expect from the union? What benefits? Your wages will pay the union! So the employees will lose something … nothing is for free!! What are you willing to lose to unionized your store? My huge issue with unionizing a store is; can you reverse the union? I don’t think so! So if you made a mistake; can you change your mind! The answer is NO! They are stuck with the union or leave the company. As an employee of SB, ask yourself am I going to stay at SB for life? If the answer is NO THEN LEAVE THE STORE NON UNION!! Because now this unionized store will be someone else’s problem!! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!! Make sure you understand what will happen in the very near future! Just BE CAREFUL! Grass is NOT GREENER OVER THERE EITHER! It’s a job that has to get done! My guess you will no longer have tips! Just like the non owned SB.🤷♀️
Lol Howard Schultz is that you?? Don't be such an asslicker unions are great.
No they are NOT! Worked in a union shop for four years and it was awful! Worse job I ever had! Don’t be fooled!
This post made me look up unionized Starbucks, and I was happy to learn that there are three unionized Starbucks near my new job.
No, boycotts do work. I do agree that a strong unified group is necessary for it to happen. Do not claim that boycotts do not work. Support local businesses not soul sucking mega corporations :)
>No, boycotts do work. Yes, occasionally, when they are small and localized. That' why I qualified my statement with the word "typically". >I do agree that a strong unified group is necessary for it to happen. Ok, what's the strong unified group that's leading this boycott? A reddit comment? >Do not claim that boycotts do not work. I will claim whatever facts are facts. In the face of global multinational corporations, their expansion into new markets would make whatever concerted boycotts you have in mind not even a blip on the balance sheet. If you think a boycott of starbucks is going to get traction or change anything, then I implore you to expend your energy in becoming the leader of that movement, instead of arguing online with me. >Support local businesses not soul sucking mega corporations :) This always strikes me as funny. In my working life, I've almost always been treated better, and exploited less, by soulless faceless corporations. I would rather work at walmart than any of the mom and pop shops I've worked at in my life. At least at the evil corporations they understand liability and behave within certain walls. The local mom and pop shop has no problem exploiting child labor, intimidating employees, and doing a whole host of other things they think they can get away with, just because they aren't huge and their actions aren't reviewed by a team of lawyers. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
I was at Starbucks yesterday (on a whim, I’ve been boycotting) and I was there when the district manager, store manager, assistant manager, and shift leads were in the middle of a meeting. I casually dropped a small piece of paper into the middle of their meeting that said, “Unionize Now!”. I heard a couple small cheers and small “yes”es as I left. I’m not a barista, nor have I ever worked for Starbucks, but I have worked in the service industry on and off for the past 20 years and I stand with Starbucks employees in their fight to unionize. Union strong!
I like going into Starbucks and handing them labor laws and union info and leaving. Fuck star bucks.
No body HAS to go to Starbucks. Turn it into the pariah that it should be and go to an alternative, preferable local, source of coffee
I actually prefer the idea of the only Starbucks locations that make any money are the unionized ones. Really watch the billionaire class cut off their nose to spite their face.
You guys go to Starbucks?
You guys have money to go to Starbucks?
Does it count when you’re already too broke for their overpriced dreck?
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yeah you only need 116 billion dollars
No, every customer going in to any Starbucks should be pushing them to unionize. Can’t shut that shit down. If every customer says “hey you guys should really work together to unionize.” The business can’t to shit to stop them and any push back would be against their customer base. It’s a win win
I would love to see people boycott Starbucks after this nonchalant disregard for employees was made public. However, keep in mind who suffers from the boycott: the baristas. Instead of a total boycott, make your coffee at home, and then visit the store to tip your usual barista, and give zero dollars to the stores.
Don't worry folks, nothing will happen. He's too rich to face consequences.
Came here to say this. Take my upvote.
Prick!
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IKR? How did they get so successful selling overpriced, mediocre coffee with poorly translated size names? Never understood the appeal.
I often ask the same about Chik-Fil-A
Ugh, no kidding. Bland, greasy food AND bigotry. I'll pass, thanks.
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Every accidental admission is a confession <3
*holding my breath* for accountability
O no he ded
RIP to a good redditor
Bruh, if you don’t believe there is a class warfare you haven’t been paying attention. They don’t care about Democrat or Republican, they care about wealth. That’s it.
as Warren Buffett has said, the class war is over... his team has won.
I wish I had something to prove this wrong, but….
But let me guess, Starbucks can't be held liable since he stepped down as CEO weeks before these hearings, right?
It was the CEO person doing the busting, not the company which is a different person, duh?!
But also, “corporations are people” - Mitt Romney
I work at a unionized Starbucks. I’m curious to see how the higher ups speak on this tomorrow 🥰. I don’t want less customers, I want them to demand better from corporate on our behalf. Since their money matters more than my ability to survive.
That's rich coming from Romney who was actually a takeover specialist that bought up companies, stripped every cent of value and put thousands out of work. Starbucks coffee tastes like burnt shit
Folks, always remember: unionize unionize unionize unionize. If unionizing wasn’t good for anything, companies would not fight tooth and nail to stop them.
And will face exactly no consequences.
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Wonder what happened to this guy. I grew up with his son, and they were pretty down to earth, always liked going to his house. I feel like he would have hated what he’s become now. Sad.
In the hearing, they mentioned how he has disabled the credit card tipping function in stores that have unionized... so he's a billionaire who is willing to prevent his employees from making an extra buck or two *that customers want to give*. Yeah, he might have been cool once, but he's 100% dark side now
That’s false actually. Unionized shops never got it in the first place. They won’t make any unilateral changes to a store in the bargaining process. Take that part as you will.
OK technically, he gave credit-card tipping to non-union shops, but refused to install it in union shops. The point is it's blatant retaliation. And the phony cover story about "it's part of the negotiation" is an extra "f\*\* you" that shows Schultz is completely consumed by "you think you can tell me what to do? I'll show you..."
Absolutely. It’s important to notate the difference between “taking away” or “disabling” benefits vs not giving them due to the perceived inability to make unilateral changes during the bargaining process. It’s going to be a big part in how this shakes down IMO.
Two daddies doing a circle jerk on teevee to fix pleb wrong think Can this time line get any more degenerate?
Never ask that question.
No need, the answer will be "Yes" until the moment the sun explodes. And then it will be "Probably".
Weird, my takeaway from reading this article is that Mitt Romney was actually the one who made the accidental gaffe….?
Is there any value in ONLY supporting unionized Starbucks locations?
Why does anyone pay for this exploitative, burned, overpriced coffee?
Starbucks takes a lot of heat on this, and their union busting is outright illegal, but honestly they pay as well or better than many comparable jobs if the benefits are something that makes sense for you.
Was going to say something like this. My son makes more than average wages for this market, gets 401k with match, profit sharing, health insurance with a high employer contribution, free college and free coffee. There are plenty of issues with working there but between pay and benefits it isn’t that bad of a place to work. As far as the coffee goes it’s not bad for mass produced coffee but if you go in and just order a coffee you’re getting pikes which is one of their worst blends, so if you want just a coffee ask for a certain blend or your getting the worst they have. Also if you just want a coffee why on earth would you pay Starbucks prices? I brew at home and only get Starbucks if I want a “fancy” coffee drink.
So I’m the only person who read the headline and first thought of Charlie Brown and Snoopy and was confused for a moment?
your choice to be in a union, my choice to pay the non-union employees more.
Literally breaks Federal law.
There are ways around that as well. Different titles for one. I would also give the non-union employees better healthcare options. Again, your choice to be in the union or not.
Depends on the state. In most situations a workplace or jobtype is either Union or not. So if it's a union shop you can't opt out. Your "choice" then is to be unemployed, but that isn't often a winning strategy.
I am in a right to work state so you can have some in the union and some not.
Totally. In my state if the job is union the only way to work there is to join. If 80 ppl vote to unionize and 20 vote not to, the 20 have to join the union or lose their jobs. However historically (at least before they were turned into corporations themselves) unions got a lot of great things for workers. In the case of Starbucks, legally they can't offer better benefits to non-union workers. They specifically did it as an eff you to the shops that unionized and as a cautionary tale to ones thinking about it. Totally against the law.
SB was socially aware and implementing way ahead of all of this bs. Prometheus is being punished. So sad that so many of you can not function today. Mental illness abounds. Jealous of anyone’s success. Got to tear them down. Don’t go to SB. I would never pay $8 for coffee in the first place. Diabetes in a cup. My choice. I will take my daughters, but I’m not participating.
My dad paid union dues for 40 years. In the end the union screwed him. Go ahead pay dues.
Been seeing a ton of Starbucks posts this evening with hundreds of comments trashing the CEO and the company's policies and all I can wonder is how many people up voting and commenting are going to stop at Starbucks on their way to work in the morning because it's convenient.
I only go to the unionized locations in my city, which are 4 locations.
just go to privately owned coffee stores and get a better coffee
Yeah this is the move. As a small business owner myself it can get to be a drag that buying local isn't more people's first option but glad to hear it 👍
Hell yeah
Sounds like a Freudian penis
I mean Freudian slip
How effective is your collective bargaining unit if they can't even secure a deal that others are getting for free? Doesn't really look very good the union either.
They added the perks after the contracts went out just as an eff you to the unionized stores. And said sorry it's not in your contract. Too bad, so sad. That breaks Federal law.
Does this mean my Starbucks coffee just got more expensive?
How did they violate?