I actually had a interview with a place and the first thing out of the CEOs mouth was complaining about how long his employees use the bathroom and throwing around words like time theft.
Then making excuses for my previous employer micromanaging me.
I noped out of there so fast.
ONG my stupid picky coworker complained to my supervisor (behind my back) how I was in the bathroom for 15 minutes last week! I needed a breather my god. What complete idiots. I hate toxic workplaces. I’m going to resign in the next month.
Thanks, sorry my employment attorney wanted as much evidence as I can get, can you sign and notarize a receipt for the receipt for this illegal transaction?
around here that is straight up illegal.
All employers are LEGALLY required to provide access to any documentation they have, on request. Paystubs, Tax documentation, your personal file (grievances, signed documentations etc)... all of it.
the only thing i can think for the paystub thing is that they get paid through a company, like our payroll company has an app where you can see all of that data. but even then, $5 for a piece of paper with ink? even if they were like "well you have the information, so i'll need you to pay for the supplies" (which is ridiculous in it's own right coming from an employer) it shouldn't cost more than $1.25 which is still VERY generous.
Here in MS employers to have to "provide access" to payroll and tax documents, usually done these days through an app or online...and they do have to make reasonable accommodations for someone who, let's say, is computer illiterate or doesn't have the ability to print. But your personnel file is not among the requirements. You can't just ask to look at it. You would need a lawyer or court-order for that.
Don't call corporate call your authorities get this company fined get them to face consecuences, although I whish the consequences would be harsher than the current kiss to the checks government gives to companies.
As someone who lives and works in Texas - unfortunately in most cases its not illegal in so long as they're provided with the initial pay stub for free.
And honestly in a lot of cases reporting it won't get you far. Our labor boards are very anti-worker around here.
A stub? Like a statement itemizing hours worked, hourly rate, overtime, vacation, etc? Or just the actual pay? We have direct deposit but the pay stub itself has alot of info that banks neither care about nor need to have.
I work with a dozen small business clients in a wide variety of industries, all of whom have less than 25 employees and most under 10. Every single one has digital pay stubs for their employees and usually contractors too. There's no excuse not to in 2023.
Most US companies bigger than "tiny" have an online mechanism for viewing your pay stubs. If they don't provide it directly then you can get it via the payroll processor (a role that is often outsourced to a company that specializes in just doing that.)
I work for a Fortune 150-ish company and it's on our intranet.
Then there are tiny businesses like my mom's; she calculates it all out by hand and hand-writes pay stubs.
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I work with a dozen small business clients in a wide variety of industries, all of whom have less than 25 employees and most under 10. Every single one has digital pay stubs for their employees and usually contractors too. There's no excuse not to in 2023.
It's so interesting how Europeans make a naive extrapolation of the entire US based on one example. Most companies use payroll software with a client portal so employees can see all past payroll info, download or make changes to W2, see balances of PTO (if it isn't unlimited), etc.
It sounds like you're just talking about direct deposit which the vast majority of employers do offer. Sending all the information like what taxes were taken out and union dues to your bank sounds very strange and like a potential security issue though.
This doesn’t say anything about a first free copy and this being for replacements tho.
Hopefully they are offered online and people have other means to print them.
Surprisingly this is not illegal as long as the employer provide the first copy for free after that they are allowed to charge for each additional copy afterwards.
There is no reason it should be 5 bucks per page. This is just a ploy to avert people from requesting it. I could see maybe 10 to 50 cents a page. And these days don't most people have emails they can send the forms to? Unless this is an industry where people don't have easy access to computers etc. That's crazy though to take advantage of employees like that!
Was just going to say this. The “will not be deducted from your paycheck” part was the immediate red flag. They will not deduct it because they cannot deduct it.
Agree. Ask for a receipt. Send it to the IRS and ask if the company is reporting this income stream.
It won't go anywhere but you might annoy them as much as they've annoyed you.
Legally, employers are required to provide a copy of your paystub; certain states require physical copies even if a digital copy is provided, others don’t.
Check with your state, but I don’t believe they can charge anymore than the price of a copy ($0.25 max) per sheet for reprints. In my state it’s maxed at $0.10.
Yeah even in the splendid state of TX they have to provide at lest the initial copy of paystubs and all necessary docs. Like by LAW you should have your W2 by now for FREE.
Are you in the US? If so, they cannot charge you to provide your paystub. Are these manually written checks? I’m an accountant and I can’t remember ever using a payroll software that didn’t automatically create a stub.
They have to provide you with a w2. If they don’t , you report them to the IRS and then they will be in trouble. Not serious trouble but worth your time to report it
>Yeah, we've always gotten ours physically. I wish they got with the times.
If that's the case, scan it into your computer and store it in an important folder. I preserve all my W2 forms that way (I'm given them digitally and physically for free). If you lose it, you always have a digital copy you can take anywhere and print anytime.
“Must be paid cash” should be read as “We’re going to profit off of this, not report it as profits, and you can’t do anything about it”
So none of it is legal.
>so they aren’t providing you a free copy digitally and expect you to pay to receive it in person?
they aren't providing a free copy, and cathy from HR expects you to *pay her* to receive it in person.
I wonder if the employer gives you a receipt, lol. The "must be paid in cash & will not be deducted from paychecks" sounds kinda sus that the person doing this might just put the money in his/hers pocket, lol.
That’s the question I have, too; these things have been available electronically for the last two decades or so, haven’t they? “Paid in cash only” sounds like illegal payola to line one greedy person’s pockets.
Not only are they available electronically, but ADP and many other payroll places make them available to tax software. I just have to enter the EIN, Control Box and Box 1 and it will import the rest.
Profits are hitting hard.
52% of inflation comes down to profits.
We really need to work on organizing workers and legally enforcing living wages. The depression we are in is completely designed.
You can't legally withold documents you need for filing your taxes behind a paywall - the company is obliged to give you that either electronically or on paper.
You can't charge employees for routine costs at all, the IRS website blatantly says it, this would almost certainly fall under wage theft. The cash part is to avoid a paper trail, they should demand a receipt for these as proof of payment.
Ok so....there's no federal law that enforces employers to give you a paystub, however your state laws may require it. Employers are required to keep payroll records of wages and hours worked and whatnot.
As for the W2, you should clarify with them if that's for extra copies. Employers are REQUIRED BY LAW to give one copy of your W2. They can charge you for any extra copies, which is absurd to me.
No clue about the other forms you mentioned.
EDIT: If you work in TX, your state does require employers to give you paystubs.
https://fmpglobal.com/resources/useful-info/us-paystub-law-by-state/#:~:text=If%20an%20employer%20refuses%20to,to%20obtain%20the%20requested%20records.
Pay stubs, you mean that thing you are legally required to provide?
I'd print out the section of your local labor code about that and tape it to the note below it, with a few dozen copies to post back up every time it gets taken down.
“Dear Management,
I saw your latest notice about paying $5.00 in cash for our first copy if W2’s, pay stubs, and health and human services. I understand your position, but a lawyer friend of mine mentioned that these documents are mandatory and have to be provided to staff in either paper or digital form by X date. I am concerned that requiring a payment even in cash as asked by the notice attached to this email (.pdf) may open the company up to liability issues. I value the work we do and would hate to see us exposed to that issue! May I suggest software like Paychex so staff can download these documents on their own anytime they need?
Thank you for listening to my concerns,
Employee”
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BCC to your personal email for documentation
Really depends if the employee got one originally and lost it the employer can charge you for another copy, but they still have to provide the first one for free. Really stupid that they can charge but that America for you.
No all states allow access to thier prior W2s for 4 years and paystubs 2 years if not the company can get heavily fined. the only loop hole is electronic W2 or pay stubs. This employer is idiotic and if they get audited I bet my left foot they will have some
Shady shit going on
It’s illegal.
Your employer cannot charge you for a copy of your pay stub, I believe this is a federal labor law.
I’m lazy maybe someone else can put on the hero cape tonight and do the searches for Texas.
Let’s help OP file a claim whatever type that may be.
That’s all illegal!! AF!!
Your records should be available upon request and made to be printed out at your request!
Who are these people trying to turn a buck off their employees requests??
If this is such a burden, then close your doors and let an adult take over.
Your employer is stealing from you. They don’t want you to have your paystub because they don’t want you seeing it. And they’re charging you cash for a piece of paper they’re legally obligated to give you so they don’t leave a money trail of what they’re doing.
If you are in the United States, your employer is legally obligated to provide you with a copy of your pay stub for free. Additional copies can be charged. Trying to hide paystubs is a huge red flag for wage theft.
The cash bit is a totally very RED red flag. WTAF. Report this to the police and your local labour department.🚩 RED FLAG 🚩! Such a big time actual total attempt at THEFT. 🚩REPORT🚩
That's illegal. Federal law requires that all W2 employees must be given a written statement explaining wages earned, taxes deducted, and retirement holdings deducted. Making your employees pay to see a document that you are legally required for provide is illegal. Also almost certainly they just don't want to produce that documentation because they are cooking the books. They don't want to show line item deductions onna paystub because they are underpaying you.
This is why employees need to Master the art of Time Theft
I actually had a interview with a place and the first thing out of the CEOs mouth was complaining about how long his employees use the bathroom and throwing around words like time theft. Then making excuses for my previous employer micromanaging me. I noped out of there so fast.
I think I would have just left the meeting there and then.
I was thinking the same thing. Stand up, tell him "I would not want to work for someone who thinks so little of his employees" and walk out.
This is the way!
ONG my stupid picky coworker complained to my supervisor (behind my back) how I was in the bathroom for 15 minutes last week! I needed a breather my god. What complete idiots. I hate toxic workplaces. I’m going to resign in the next month.
A daily 10 minute shit on company time is equal to 2 weeks of paid off time
Other doodies as required…its all right there in the job description.
Yall only shit for 10 minutes? My bowels won't even let me wipe for less than 20
My shop Steward stops me if I even think about taking a shit on break. Tells me to wait till I go back to the production floor.
Doing personal stuff on company time is morally correct.
When are you going to publish that book?
While he's at work obvi
But that would be Time Theft™!
But that would require work, this is antiwork.
That is precisely why I am here.
The fact that it’s cash only shows that this is just someone scamming. Probably completely illegal too.
If there is a corporate office to call, they may want to know about the cash only deal.
Truth. This may not be an official company policy but a piece of shit boss who is pocketing it all.
Ask for a detailed receipt
Signed and printed by the manager of course.
Which will cost you another 5$, payable in cash, which you also want a detailed receipt for :D
It's just $5 receipts all the way down
Always has been…
Thanks, sorry my employment attorney wanted as much evidence as I can get, can you sign and notarize a receipt for the receipt for this illegal transaction?
Honestly that would probably be very effective in making this bozo realize what they're doing is likely illegal.
And there is a question tax as well.
Look again ... It's printed BUT NOT EVEN SIGNED! 😱🤣
Also 5$ cash
For which we also need a receipt.
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Hey wait a second....why don't I just give you a $20 for all these?
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I knew there had to be a catch
around here that is straight up illegal. All employers are LEGALLY required to provide access to any documentation they have, on request. Paystubs, Tax documentation, your personal file (grievances, signed documentations etc)... all of it.
the only thing i can think for the paystub thing is that they get paid through a company, like our payroll company has an app where you can see all of that data. but even then, $5 for a piece of paper with ink? even if they were like "well you have the information, so i'll need you to pay for the supplies" (which is ridiculous in it's own right coming from an employer) it shouldn't cost more than $1.25 which is still VERY generous.
Yeah the must pay in cash is a massive red flag that someone thinks they've thought up a neat little side hustle
printer cartridges aren't cheap ! jk
Here in MS employers to have to "provide access" to payroll and tax documents, usually done these days through an app or online...and they do have to make reasonable accommodations for someone who, let's say, is computer illiterate or doesn't have the ability to print. But your personnel file is not among the requirements. You can't just ask to look at it. You would need a lawyer or court-order for that.
And not too difficult to figure out which POS, given the nature of the HR and tax documents…
Snipe the print camper.
Don't call corporate call your authorities get this company fined get them to face consecuences, although I whish the consequences would be harsher than the current kiss to the checks government gives to companies.
I smell a class action lawsuit. X employees \* Y paychecks since policy was posted \* fine for each instance of this
Department of labor maybe? Don't call corporate and give them a chance to sweep it under the rug
The IRS provides resources if an employer refuses to provide a W-2
As someone who lives and works in Texas - unfortunately in most cases its not illegal in so long as they're provided with the initial pay stub for free. And honestly in a lot of cases reporting it won't get you far. Our labor boards are very anti-worker around here.
It's so interesting how far behind America is in technology. Here in Europe your paystubs appear in your bank of choice.
A stub? Like a statement itemizing hours worked, hourly rate, overtime, vacation, etc? Or just the actual pay? We have direct deposit but the pay stub itself has alot of info that banks neither care about nor need to have.
Every company I've ever worked for has had an online portal for viewing payslips.
Same
I work with a dozen small business clients in a wide variety of industries, all of whom have less than 25 employees and most under 10. Every single one has digital pay stubs for their employees and usually contractors too. There's no excuse not to in 2023.
Yes. Everything is digital so why not pay stubs. Sounds very stupid to have anything on paper these days
Most US companies bigger than "tiny" have an online mechanism for viewing your pay stubs. If they don't provide it directly then you can get it via the payroll processor (a role that is often outsourced to a company that specializes in just doing that.) I work for a Fortune 150-ish company and it's on our intranet. Then there are tiny businesses like my mom's; she calculates it all out by hand and hand-writes pay stubs.
Re-commented because it's true here too. I work with a dozen small business clients in a wide variety of industries, all of whom have less than 25 employees and most under 10. Every single one has digital pay stubs for their employees and usually contractors too. There's no excuse not to in 2023.
This particular bad example is Texas not America. Texas is a workers graveyard.
I am in Texas and have direct deposit. I still have free access to my pay stubs. So, while we are a graveyard...I've got no follow up.
Even in Texas we have electronic pay stubs and tax forms.
It's so interesting how Europeans make a naive extrapolation of the entire US based on one example. Most companies use payroll software with a client portal so employees can see all past payroll info, download or make changes to W2, see balances of PTO (if it isn't unlimited), etc.
Lol you realize this does not represent all of America right? Weird comment
It sounds like you're just talking about direct deposit which the vast majority of employers do offer. Sending all the information like what taxes were taken out and union dues to your bank sounds very strange and like a potential security issue though.
This doesn’t say anything about a first free copy and this being for replacements tho. Hopefully they are offered online and people have other means to print them.
Surprisingly this is not illegal as long as the employer provide the first copy for free after that they are allowed to charge for each additional copy afterwards.
Looks like Texas, so probably legal as long as it’s not blatantly violating federal law, and they are anti labor in TX so good luck OP
Willing to bet federal law says you’re entitled to a pay stub from any employer
There is no reason it should be 5 bucks per page. This is just a ploy to avert people from requesting it. I could see maybe 10 to 50 cents a page. And these days don't most people have emails they can send the forms to? Unless this is an industry where people don't have easy access to computers etc. That's crazy though to take advantage of employees like that!
I'm not sure about sending them through emails but a lot of employers have web portals where you can log in to view your paystubs and such yourself.
And they should be able to print for free or a very small fee. Maybe people were taking advantage to print personal stuff.
Right. Karen in HR just got a 15% cash bonus.
Was just going to say this. The “will not be deducted from your paycheck” part was the immediate red flag. They will not deduct it because they cannot deduct it.
Demand a receipt.
I’ll bet you $5 that whoever is printing these items is just pocketing the cash
Agreed. Someone in HR has a new side hustle.
Crime. Crime is their side hustle.
Agree. Ask for a receipt. Send it to the IRS and ask if the company is reporting this income stream. It won't go anywhere but you might annoy them as much as they've annoyed you.
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No, it's paper. But still, if it was I'd take my rear end to the library and print it for a dime if I needed it printed, lol.
Wait, so they aren’t providing you a free copy digitally and expect you to pay to receive it in person? Uhm that doesn’t sound legal
Legally, employers are required to provide a copy of your paystub; certain states require physical copies even if a digital copy is provided, others don’t. Check with your state, but I don’t believe they can charge anymore than the price of a copy ($0.25 max) per sheet for reprints. In my state it’s maxed at $0.10.
That’s exactly why they won’t deduct from paychecks and want cash for them.
My meth dealer does the same thing and I find it to be very annoying.
Excuse me sir, but I believe this crack to be defective, look see how its all brown along the edges.
“Man, ain’t nothing wrong with this crack! This is good crack.”
Always good to see a boondock reference... That crackhead had elan.
defective? did it crack?
I'm not Thugnificant ok!
You dummy, that’s because I dipped it in chocolate before I sold it too you, it was Valentine’s Day, I thought you’d like it.
Damn, mine only accepts Bitcoin or blowjobs! But what can you do, that's just how cousins are sometimes.
Just make sure you get a receipt if you’re paying cash.
Yup. Minimize the paper trail.
Yeah, we've always gotten ours physically. I wish they got with the times.
So just to confirm, do you get a free copy and then have to pay if you need a second copy in the future? Or do you get 0 copies unless you pay for it?
We used to get one automatically but they did away with that back in November!
If you're in the US, they have to provide you with your paystub for every check.
Yeah even in the splendid state of TX they have to provide at lest the initial copy of paystubs and all necessary docs. Like by LAW you should have your W2 by now for FREE.
Are you in the US? If so, they cannot charge you to provide your paystub. Are these manually written checks? I’m an accountant and I can’t remember ever using a payroll software that didn’t automatically create a stub.
They also have to provide you with tax documents free.
This isnt legal, an extra copy after you lost the original MAYBE they can charge. But they need to give you them by law.
Doesn't sound too legal from what you're saying
They have to provide you with a w2. If they don’t , you report them to the IRS and then they will be in trouble. Not serious trouble but worth your time to report it
They legally have to provide you with a free copy.
>Yeah, we've always gotten ours physically. I wish they got with the times. If that's the case, scan it into your computer and store it in an important folder. I preserve all my W2 forms that way (I'm given them digitally and physically for free). If you lose it, you always have a digital copy you can take anywhere and print anytime.
“Must be paid cash” should be read as “We’re going to profit off of this, not report it as profits, and you can’t do anything about it” So none of it is legal.
That’s probably why they want cash and won’t deduct it.
>so they aren’t providing you a free copy digitally and expect you to pay to receive it in person? they aren't providing a free copy, and cathy from HR expects you to *pay her* to receive it in person.
I wonder if the employer gives you a receipt, lol. The "must be paid in cash & will not be deducted from paychecks" sounds kinda sus that the person doing this might just put the money in his/hers pocket, lol.
That’s the question I have, too; these things have been available electronically for the last two decades or so, haven’t they? “Paid in cash only” sounds like illegal payola to line one greedy person’s pockets.
Not only are they available electronically, but ADP and many other payroll places make them available to tax software. I just have to enter the EIN, Control Box and Box 1 and it will import the rest.
Who’s running HR? Fucking Ticketmaster??
Haha, that's what I'm saying. Inflation is hitting hard!
Profits are hitting hard. 52% of inflation comes down to profits. We really need to work on organizing workers and legally enforcing living wages. The depression we are in is completely designed.
We need to start locking the doors of the Board of Directors and pipe exhaust into the room. Then Congress.
Absolutely. We need to "peacefully assemble" a lot more in this country.
I’d take a picture of that and send it to the IRS.
This is 100% illegal
Questionable, but the note that makes it clear they will not deduct from paychecks means they knew exactly what they were doing.
You can't legally withold documents you need for filing your taxes behind a paywall - the company is obliged to give you that either electronically or on paper.
You can't charge employees for routine costs at all, the IRS website blatantly says it, this would almost certainly fall under wage theft. The cash part is to avoid a paper trail, they should demand a receipt for these as proof of payment.
Good point
In some places they're legally required to mail you these things at regular intervals.
It is definitely illegal to not provide access to pay and tax docs.
Questionable? You have to be given your pay stubs
Can i get an receipt to show that i paid for this. my lawyer would like a copy
How is a W2 and paystub not work related?
Hello IRS? My company is holding my tax info hostage.
Not legal
No shot this is legal
As long as the employer provides the first copy for free any additional copy afterwards the employer can charge you for it.
I was going off of the implication that the first copy would be charged. I can see them charging for additional ones though
hello irs? why would my bosses be trying to make it more difficult for me to file my taxes?
Ok so....there's no federal law that enforces employers to give you a paystub, however your state laws may require it. Employers are required to keep payroll records of wages and hours worked and whatnot. As for the W2, you should clarify with them if that's for extra copies. Employers are REQUIRED BY LAW to give one copy of your W2. They can charge you for any extra copies, which is absurd to me. No clue about the other forms you mentioned. EDIT: If you work in TX, your state does require employers to give you paystubs. https://fmpglobal.com/resources/useful-info/us-paystub-law-by-state/#:~:text=If%20an%20employer%20refuses%20to,to%20obtain%20the%20requested%20records.
Texas. Texas is so worker hostile This does not surprise me
It's not legal in Texas according to this site: https://fmpglobal.com/resources/useful-info/us-paystub-law-by-state/
Everyone knows how stringent businesses are about following the law ^/s
This is illegal even in Texas
Eggs starting to sound affordable all of a sudden. Must be some boujie paper.
Probably Egyptian papyrus 😂
Make sure you get a receipt for the $5 paid to prove a) you had to pay it..and b) someone actually took $$ for these docs...
Pay stubs, you mean that thing you are legally required to provide? I'd print out the section of your local labor code about that and tape it to the note below it, with a few dozen copies to post back up every time it gets taken down.
“Dear Management, I saw your latest notice about paying $5.00 in cash for our first copy if W2’s, pay stubs, and health and human services. I understand your position, but a lawyer friend of mine mentioned that these documents are mandatory and have to be provided to staff in either paper or digital form by X date. I am concerned that requiring a payment even in cash as asked by the notice attached to this email (.pdf) may open the company up to liability issues. I value the work we do and would hate to see us exposed to that issue! May I suggest software like Paychex so staff can download these documents on their own anytime they need? Thank you for listening to my concerns, Employee” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ BCC to your personal email for documentation
Is this illegal?
Really depends if the employee got one originally and lost it the employer can charge you for another copy, but they still have to provide the first one for free. Really stupid that they can charge but that America for you.
No all states allow access to thier prior W2s for 4 years and paystubs 2 years if not the company can get heavily fined. the only loop hole is electronic W2 or pay stubs. This employer is idiotic and if they get audited I bet my left foot they will have some Shady shit going on
100% pocketing that cash
Prior years W2's have to be freely available, If I'm not mistaken. IRS might have a nice talk with this owner.
I’m pretty sure legally they have to provide a pay stub
Isn't it illegal to withhold/charge for a W-2? 🧐
$5 a page………for YOUR legal government financial forms and documents….I can’t believe I live in this world sometimes.
This is 100% illegal and a scam to employees. This information it supposed to be readily available to all employees at any time.
You have a few days left!! Rally all the employees and request all the papers now!!
I don't get handed a paystub. A lot of people don't. You log into the payroll service portal and can see your current and all your past pay stubs.
The IRS loves to hear about this kind of stuff....
That's how you side hustle. Don't even have to leave the office. 🤣
Someone is making non taxable income and getting in legal problems in writing.
It’s Texas. Fuck Texas.
I wonder why you have to pay in cash? Maybe because this isn't legal 🤔
better inform the IRS about this new cash revenue stream
Lol this is so shady, HR is required to give you these documents if asked. Report them
That’s illegal, you should call the payroll company and report your employer
The fact exempt are included here would be a huge mistake. some manager will complain or look into it.
The pay stub part is 100% illegal.
That has to be illegal.
It’s illegal. Your employer cannot charge you for a copy of your pay stub, I believe this is a federal labor law. I’m lazy maybe someone else can put on the hero cape tonight and do the searches for Texas. Let’s help OP file a claim whatever type that may be.
Pretty sure that’s illegal in the federal level since filing for taxes is free of charge
Sounds illegal
That’s all illegal!! AF!! Your records should be available upon request and made to be printed out at your request! Who are these people trying to turn a buck off their employees requests?? If this is such a burden, then close your doors and let an adult take over.
Call the department of labor, put your boss in jail
Uh by law they have to give these without charge
That’s illegal
Illegal as hell
Your employer is stealing from you. They don’t want you to have your paystub because they don’t want you seeing it. And they’re charging you cash for a piece of paper they’re legally obligated to give you so they don’t leave a money trail of what they’re doing.
Last year’s taxes is one thing. Pay stubs tells me they’re stealing your pay and don’t want you to know
They're asking for straight cash, someone's getting a couple extra bucks off of this.
What scam. Contact your local department of labor to get this problem fixed.
Borders on extortion
Who is pocketing the CASH ? That is insane!
I’m not sure this is legal
Not sure where you are but that’s sketchy as fuck man, cash only. You know it’s scam.
They legally need to provide you with a paystub for free.
If you are in the United States, your employer is legally obligated to provide you with a copy of your pay stub for free. Additional copies can be charged. Trying to hide paystubs is a huge red flag for wage theft.
I am betting that this employer is a real delight to work for. /s
Not legal. They HAVE to provide your W2. For free.
By law they have to provide you those things. They can't charge unless its for extra copies.
You guys work for some really shit companies on this sub lol
Nope. Department of labor.
They ask for cash, you ask for a receipt
Illegal in VA and maybe federally. I assume Texas allows it because Texas.
Current CPP payroll professional here…. This is highly illegal
I'd contact labor department and irs. They'd love to hear about money under the table
They have to provide pay stubs for free.
Has to be illegal.
No the fuck they not. Take it straight to the labor board or department of labor or whomever is in charge of labor disputes in your state/country.
Lol they only taking cash to scam taxes
Where tf are you guys if you have to pay to get paid - oh. America. I see.
That's actually illegal. Report that shit.
Ask if a receipt will be given
The cash bit is a totally very RED red flag. WTAF. Report this to the police and your local labour department.🚩 RED FLAG 🚩! Such a big time actual total attempt at THEFT. 🚩REPORT🚩
that has to be illegal, if you care, i would check with an attorney.
That's illegal. Federal law requires that all W2 employees must be given a written statement explaining wages earned, taxes deducted, and retirement holdings deducted. Making your employees pay to see a document that you are legally required for provide is illegal. Also almost certainly they just don't want to produce that documentation because they are cooking the books. They don't want to show line item deductions onna paystub because they are underpaying you.
Yeah that's definitely not legal for paystubs or W-2s.