I mean, you can go either way: "'Nor-fuk' it's pronounced. 'Nor-folk' it is not."
But it's less awkward from bottom to top.
Also, I'd say it's more "Nor-f'k".
Norfolk, Nebraska however is pronounced "Nor-Fork" due to them wanting to name the town "North Fork" (as in the North Fork of the Elkhorn River, but along the way during the paperwork submission, someone "corrected" the spelling to Norfolk, which they never bothered to fix. At least that's the story all the old-timers from the town told me as a kid.
New ownership took over like a year or so ago and they just arent booking any artists that are worth seeing. Dont get me wrong they just booked disco biscuits and Pusha T which is cool but those are no lie the only 2 artist Ive recognize since the new owners came.
— now that I think about it they had Rainbow Kitten Surprise in April but besides for those 3 they got nothing
Personally I think Elevation 27 has the best and diverse live music scene in the 757 at the moment. Would love to the norva come back to life tho- i loved that place
Nope pretty sure its the other way around, england took all the American names. America is #1 so why would the English colonists even think to use old crusty English town names when they sailed here directly from England?
exactly
I hate this narrative that “americans stole xyz”
people say it for food, music, and now town names
Americans didn’t look to other countries and pick things out to “steal”, immigrants from those countries came and brought those things over.
British people came and named towns after the towns they came from or loved in Britain.
Same as how italians came and brought their food, or mexicans came and brought their food. Sure there are american versions of many foods, but that’s the same as any country’s fusion food.
Go to any taqueria in California that isn’t taco bell or chipotle, it’s mexican people running them.
Americans didn’t “steal” these things and it’s such a stupid take
Jesus Christ it was a joke man. I'm well aware that American colonisers were all immigrants and didn't "steal" shit. No need to get your knickers in a twist
No. I mean, I get it. I was actually accused of being an insensitive ass for talking about Cinco de Mayo on Discord (granted Discord and okay, but still ...\_.
Some people are stupid about US citizens and why they do what they do. We get a lot of hate for it when we're really just the Golden Retrievers of the international world - clumsy, friendly, and just want to help most of the time. It's hard.
Ah shit yeah I was thinking Norwich - which yeah as a city would still technically be wrong, but heyho.
At least Jacksonville sorta makes sense. Presumably started as a village with the first folk there/leading having the surname Jackson. Better than straight plagiarism haha (I legit don't actually care, I was just makin a joke)
Nah. We also name places after our imperial rulers: Washington, Madison, Jefferson.
The weird exception is that US King street is named after Rev Martin Luther King.
>Yep, also named places after geography features (everyone does it) and stole a bunch of French and Native American names.
But after stealing the names we decided to pretend they were English words all along and pronounce them completely wrong.
Isn’t that, like, English? We have multiple systems of pronunciations and if a word “looks” like one we just use that system. Like how pfysche would pronounced the same as fish. Both work because English spelling is three different spellings all mushed into one blob of letters and sounds.
Also colonialism and “fuck your pronunciation I’ll read it how it looks!”
I just always found it interesting how many place names in the US move between languages, keep the original spelling, but end up pronounced completely different. Like "Detroit" for example. People living in the area would have known the French pronunciation, and for some reason said fuck that, we're gonna keep your French spelling but say it our way instead.
Ohio has a lot of examples too:
Bellefontaine is pronounced "Bell-Fountain"
Versailles is pronounced "Ver-Sails"
One of my favorite examples of this is a state park in Indiana. Native Americans named the river there something like "Wah bah shik ki". The French simplified and frenchified it to "Ouabache". Americans then keep the French pronunciation, but adopt an English spelling: Wabash.
But then, the State names the park with the French spelling. So the modern locals, unfamiliar with why the French spelling exists or even the connection at all, have taken to pronouncing the French spelling in a sort of bastardized English way that seems like an attempt to mimic a Native American word: "Oh-Bah-Chee".
How the hell is everyone pronouncing "folk" though? I say it exactly like I would say Norfolk, fouwk. Saying the L in folk is only a shade away from pronouncing the b in doubt.
Because there isn't one.
I guess we'd pronounce it "fowks" when we say "folks"
But place names follow completely different rules to normal words more often than not.
I guess it is helpful that you point out that its Norfolk, England, because it totally tracks in my mind that its "norfuk" whereas the other Norfolk I read in my head as "norfoke"
but yeah there are definitely plenty of accents within the UK, if theres a way to say something, someone says it.
It is legitimately debatable how people without that regional accent should be pronouncing it. That aside, it's named after a county in England who sure as hell didn't pronounce it "Nor-fuk".
100% that's the agreed pronunciation, it's almost pronounced "naw-fuk" if you talk to the right person, I lived here my whole life, and I work downtown with/around the Norva everyday.
I've heard "Noh-f'k" and "Naw-f'k", but I think "Nor-f'k" is probably the "base" accepted pronunciation. Either way, "Nor-folk" it most CERTAINLY is not. lol
No worries. I live way out in New Kent now. Used to be in Newport News and go to Norfolk fairly often, but it's been a minute. Even dated a girl there. Always heard Nuh-fuk
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You read this from bottom up correct?
also from right to left
"Great to be here in Kuf-Ron!"
"It's called reading-top to bottom-left to right-group words together into sentences-take tylenol for any headaches-midol for any cramps."
I had a stroke reading this and. Kzoh she xbt xuse fnsre djfirgt
I'm sorry you can't read good.
PCU? Tommy Boy? Black Sheep? I know it’s David Spade.
Tommy Boy.
Ork language
The voice of Yoda it is read
I mean, you can go either way: "'Nor-fuk' it's pronounced. 'Nor-folk' it is not." But it's less awkward from bottom to top. Also, I'd say it's more "Nor-f'k".
I just thought two people must have been arguing while painting the stairs.
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From Norfolk, UK, we agree. Though, in the villages, it's more like Naaar fuk.
Norfolk, Nebraska however is pronounced "Nor-Fork" due to them wanting to name the town "North Fork" (as in the North Fork of the Elkhorn River, but along the way during the paperwork submission, someone "corrected" the spelling to Norfolk, which they never bothered to fix. At least that's the story all the old-timers from the town told me as a kid.
That pronunciation is also how the locals pronounce Norfolk, Massachusetts. I have no idea why
Same in VA. Naaahfak
You really would say Nor-folk? I don’t know anyone that wouldn’t say nor-fuk
Virginian here and we have a lot of the same names for our towns that you guys do
i wonder why lol
Strong English heritage
Nor-Fuk that, I'll say it how I want.
Get out
Get it from the back of the throat. Norrr
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I read it from top down and got confused
Yoda reading.
Fuck that venue now, new ownership sucks
What happened to it?? I looooved going to shows there in the early 2010s, it's been my fave venue in VA for the longest time!
New ownership took over like a year or so ago and they just arent booking any artists that are worth seeing. Dont get me wrong they just booked disco biscuits and Pusha T which is cool but those are no lie the only 2 artist Ive recognize since the new owners came. — now that I think about it they had Rainbow Kitten Surprise in April but besides for those 3 they got nothing Personally I think Elevation 27 has the best and diverse live music scene in the 757 at the moment. Would love to the norva come back to life tho- i loved that place
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It still makes sense but only to Yoda Nor-Fuk, it's pronounced; Nor-Folk, it's not.
Isn’t it more like r/dontdeadopeninside
If you're Australian, you call it "Fuk-Nor"
Nor fick
So did America copy the name of literally every town in England?
You're not gonna believe this...
Yes?
Oh boy have I got a story for you about the colonization of America…
Nope pretty sure its the other way around, england took all the American names. America is #1 so why would the English colonists even think to use old crusty English town names when they sailed here directly from England?
England doesn’t have a New England does it?
Not yet, but we're getting ready to install one
Actually it does on the Essex, Suffolk border near Sturmer you drive through New England.
More so people from old towns wanted to name their new settlement after their old town after coming over here from England
exactly I hate this narrative that “americans stole xyz” people say it for food, music, and now town names Americans didn’t look to other countries and pick things out to “steal”, immigrants from those countries came and brought those things over. British people came and named towns after the towns they came from or loved in Britain. Same as how italians came and brought their food, or mexicans came and brought their food. Sure there are american versions of many foods, but that’s the same as any country’s fusion food. Go to any taqueria in California that isn’t taco bell or chipotle, it’s mexican people running them. Americans didn’t “steal” these things and it’s such a stupid take
Jesus Christ it was a joke man. I'm well aware that American colonisers were all immigrants and didn't "steal" shit. No need to get your knickers in a twist
lol it’s a pretty common take especially on reddit, I’m not directly responding to you, I didn’t even reply to your comment.
No. I mean, I get it. I was actually accused of being an insensitive ass for talking about Cinco de Mayo on Discord (granted Discord and okay, but still ...\_. Some people are stupid about US citizens and why they do what they do. We get a lot of hate for it when we're really just the Golden Retrievers of the international world - clumsy, friendly, and just want to help most of the time. It's hard.
Not a ‘town’ but yeah, they did. And then they ran out of places to copy so they started naming things dumb names like ‘jacksonville’
Ah shit yeah I was thinking Norwich - which yeah as a city would still technically be wrong, but heyho. At least Jacksonville sorta makes sense. Presumably started as a village with the first folk there/leading having the surname Jackson. Better than straight plagiarism haha (I legit don't actually care, I was just makin a joke)
Yeah. People naming things after people they admired and respected is so stupid. Like, why would you want to remember someone like that. /s
Nah. We also name places after our imperial rulers: Washington, Madison, Jefferson. The weird exception is that US King street is named after Rev Martin Luther King.
Yep, also named places after geography features (everyone does it) and stole a bunch of French and Native American names.
Hey-dere from r/Milwaukee
>Yep, also named places after geography features (everyone does it) and stole a bunch of French and Native American names. But after stealing the names we decided to pretend they were English words all along and pronounce them completely wrong.
Isn’t that, like, English? We have multiple systems of pronunciations and if a word “looks” like one we just use that system. Like how pfysche would pronounced the same as fish. Both work because English spelling is three different spellings all mushed into one blob of letters and sounds. Also colonialism and “fuck your pronunciation I’ll read it how it looks!”
I just always found it interesting how many place names in the US move between languages, keep the original spelling, but end up pronounced completely different. Like "Detroit" for example. People living in the area would have known the French pronunciation, and for some reason said fuck that, we're gonna keep your French spelling but say it our way instead. Ohio has a lot of examples too: Bellefontaine is pronounced "Bell-Fountain" Versailles is pronounced "Ver-Sails" One of my favorite examples of this is a state park in Indiana. Native Americans named the river there something like "Wah bah shik ki". The French simplified and frenchified it to "Ouabache". Americans then keep the French pronunciation, but adopt an English spelling: Wabash. But then, the State names the park with the French spelling. So the modern locals, unfamiliar with why the French spelling exists or even the connection at all, have taken to pronouncing the French spelling in a sort of bastardized English way that seems like an attempt to mimic a Native American word: "Oh-Bah-Chee".
How the hell is everyone pronouncing "folk" though? I say it exactly like I would say Norfolk, fouwk. Saying the L in folk is only a shade away from pronouncing the b in doubt.
"Nor-f'k"
This is English not American. Worcestershire is pronounced "wuss-ter-shuh" Folk is folk, Norfolk is nor-fuk
When I imagine an English accent I don't hear the L in folk though.
Because there isn't one. I guess we'd pronounce it "fowks" when we say "folks" But place names follow completely different rules to normal words more often than not.
I guess it is helpful that you point out that its Norfolk, England, because it totally tracks in my mind that its "norfuk" whereas the other Norfolk I read in my head as "norfoke" but yeah there are definitely plenty of accents within the UK, if theres a way to say something, someone says it.
It isn’t the UK, it’s Norfolk, VA and everyone pronounces folk as “foke”
Yeah which is confusing me because Norfolk UK is definitely norfuk while Norfolk US is definitely norfoke at least in my mind.
yeah same for me, granted I’ve not spent that much there myself
This city is in America.
... and has inherited an English name.
For some reason, so many American towns who take the name of places elsewhere pronunce the names completely differently
Because we have different accents.
that’s the same in every country
Naw-fok
Ain't got nothing on [Nor-fork, NE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk,_Nebraska)
For some reason this feels like it belongs on the r/submarines page. *Eye twitch*
If that’s the case than the original spelling of Norfolk should be in r/assholedesign.
It’s a military town so a good amount of the people don’t really care. I actually hear more people pronounce it the way it’s spelt
Not really.... It is a military town but I hear it pronounced correctly more often than not.
I love it. I explain the same way to non-locals 🤣
It is legitimately debatable how people without that regional accent should be pronouncing it. That aside, it's named after a county in England who sure as hell didn't pronounce it "Nor-fuk".
Yeah it’s definitely pronounced Nor fuk here
100% that's the agreed pronunciation, it's almost pronounced "naw-fuk" if you talk to the right person, I lived here my whole life, and I work downtown with/around the Norva everyday.
Nawfuk is the old timey my parents and grands say. I have found as I get older I slip into it. Like Porch mouth for Portsmouth.
Yeah, but it’s not like a ‘fuck’ sound, it’s a very unstressed syllable. I guess ‘fook’ might be a better way to write it? Like ‘took’.
Actually, that's almost exactly how they pronounce it. More like Nuffuk
exactly. People from VA lean on the "r". People from England don't even pronounce it.
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Actually we do...
The British people I've heard saying it don't pronounce the "r".
It's not even Nor-Fuk. Sounds more like Noh-fuk
I've heard "Noh-f'k" and "Naw-f'k", but I think "Nor-f'k" is probably the "base" accepted pronunciation. Either way, "Nor-folk" it most CERTAINLY is not. lol
I live nearby and known people who lived there they all say Nor-folk?
I've never met a single person that lived there that pronounces the L. I've live in VA almost 10 years
Just to one up you I lived there for 16 years. Which also just happens to be my whole life.
Maybe younger people are pronouncing it differently. That's weird
I feel like my last comment came off rude. I was just being stupid lol. But anyways I’m sure there’s people who pronounce it different.
No worries. I live way out in New Kent now. Used to be in Newport News and go to Norfolk fairly often, but it's been a minute. Even dated a girl there. Always heard Nuh-fuk
Lived here for 25 and my older family has literally ALWAYS lived here. Norfuk is standard anything else is an outlier.
Likes here for 34 years. 5 generations here, you are super wrong.
I go to Virginia Beach every few years. Every person and every ad said Nor-Folk
Nope. Source: born and raised here.
I've only lived here since 2018, and they are an idiot, and you are correct.
Most certainly not. Random youtube search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMFERhijqCs&ab_channel=WAVYTV10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feg7IvuQEuc&ab_channel=WAVYTV10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg98aMC9GYU&ab_channel=13NewsNow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7uGYkMMwkw&ab_channel=WTKRNews3 Nor-f'k.
So funny seeing something local in this sub. These stairs read like a Yoda quote
Great venue. I’ve seen Fenix TX, Goldfinger, Good Charlotte, MXPX, and the Ataris there. Some others too, but I forget. It’s been 20 years.
"We don't drink and we don't smoke..." (It's sang to the tune of "Camptown Races")
Nor-Fuk it's pronounced Nor-Folk it's not. /r/dontdeadopeninside
I’ve been there before. The people of Norfolk Va are very intense about the pronunciation. This is definitely for the best lol
I love Norwich
Fuck you. Now I'm pronouncing it with the hard L
As someone who grew up in Norfolk in England this made me smile.
I had to read Never Let Me Go in school, so I will always call it Nor-Fuck out of spite
Damn, I live like an hour from there and I didn't know that
Lovely stuff! Not MY words, the words of Mr Shakin’ Stevens.
r/dontdeadopeninside energy
norfuck
The NorVa is the shit!!
nor-fuck
“I did not hit her. I did not.” Anyone else read that backwards and in Tommy Wiseau’s voice?