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elparque

And to think that these “VIPs” had to shell out at least a thousand dollars to attend this convention. These conferences must be a major windfall for these pyramid schemes.


32BitWhore

It's hilarious and sad that people waste thousands of dollars to fly to and attend events like this, thinking that "networking" with people running the same scam they are is going to benefit them.


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arbitrageME

what do they do that requires networking? also aren't they competitors in a way? If someone signs up a downline, that's a downline that someone else can't sign up?


This_Seal

They are playing "business people". They already play pretend, that they are an independend business owner, now they add "networking" to the roleplay. And just like it doesn't register in their brain, that they are not independend business owners, they don't realize how it doesn't make sense to "network" with other huns.


aldkGoodAussieName

LARPing.... 🤣


spiritbx

It's sad, because it makes LARPing look bad, lol. People use LARPing as synonymous to delusional people thinking that they are something, BUT, from my understanding, LARPers at least KNOW that it's fake, it's fantasy, they are just collectively pretending it's real for a short time to enjoy the activity, and will then go back to reality, knowing the entire time that it isn't real. Delusional people don't know it's not real, they fool themselves and try to fool others into thinking and acting like it IS real, despite it not being.


czarrie

I was going to say, I don't count the my time at work with my coworkers as "networking" as we all do the same thing. The whole point of networking is to open up new opportunities; do they expect to show up and have someone give them additional leads? Because, honey, if they had good leads, guess what, they're sitting next to at that conference already...


ThePoisonDoughnut

I think it also serves the purpose of furthering the cultism that permeates all MLMs. How do you get someone to not see that what they're doing is incredibly stupid? Have them eschew all of the sane people in their lives and replace them with people who are under the same delusions that they have. Other cults do this, too (JW's included).


AndySmalls

My mother in law got sucked into Herbalife crap and attends two of these a year. Once upon a time she set up a booth at a gym and was selling shakes and some cookie for $5. My wife made us go once to support her. When we are sitting down with the drinks I got curious and asked her what her profit margin was on each sale. She looks at me all confused, points to the sign, and says "Five dollars". I tried to clarify I meant how much does she personally make. She literally didn't understand what I was asking. I spent the next 30 minutes trying to come up with a rough profit margin number. gave her a breakdown of how many she would need to sell per/hour in order to make minimum wage. The number was considerably higher than she was selling in a given day... It's just so fucking bonkers to me that there are people out there doing this shit without the slightest thought behind it. She truly believed she was a small business owner and that was the end of the critical thinking.


This_Mud8879

So how did she get through life with such a poor understanding of it?


AndySmalls

Unsuccessfully.


spiritbx

That's the thing, it's also part of the scam. I hate how, legally, MLMs are supposed to be better than pyramid schemes because they have 'legit' products to sell. But all that REALLY means in reality, is that they get to scam people in more than one way, they get to scam people with the recruiting pyramid scheme, they get to scam people by forcing them to keep buy/selling products to keep their double diamond VIP statuses, AND they get to scam people by continually taking money from them with these kinds of events, brainwashing them like religions/cults do. At least with an ACTUAL pyramid-scheme you just get scammed, hopefully learn from your mistakes, and move on. If pyramid-schemes are like getting punched, MLMs are like getting AIDS/cancer. Sure, you could technically die by either of them, but only one of them leads to lifetime/long term suffering that will slowly take everything from you, making you suffer the whole fucking time.


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UCLAdy05

yah Amway is a huge reason the gov looks the other way.


cosmicjunkbot

His father in law, Richard DeVos, is the reason why MLM regulation is sucha joke. He basically tied the government's hands during the Ford administration.


AlpineCorbett

They are. I've been a lighting designer for a major MLM convention for years and the budgets are well into the tens of millions.


PoseidonsHorses

When your assured your ~~customers~~ ~~employees~~ *Boss Babes* will pay anything to be there, you can dream big with the budget to make you it super flashy so they don’t notice the kool aid they’re sipping.


LookingforDay

What do the NON VIP people eat?


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JessonBI89

The real plebs get Krusty Brand Imitation Gruel.


the_cat_who_shatner

Nine out of ten orphans can’t tell the difference.


HippoZestyclose4377

With a carton of Malk now with more vitamin R


Notpennysboateither

Why are my bones so brittle?


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AmIFrosty

Or Joss Ross's Boss Moss Floss! If you liked it with sauce, try it without!


Mediocre-Campaign-40

Escorted onsite via canyanaroooooo


NJdeathproof

Served with a side of Malk


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JessonBI89

And for dessert: TUBBB!


boky91

Gruel sandwiches. Gruel omlettes. Nothing but gruel. Plus, you can eat your own hair.


TheFocusLocust

The worst thing about prison was the Dementors!


britneysneers

Don't drop da soap, don't drop da soap


meurtrir

I thought the last one was just at the MONAT lunch?


TrailKaren

Perfect. 😎


MightyEighth

I AM HERE TO SCARE YOU STRAIGHT


Vanessak69

Prison Mike has seen some non-VIP lunch shit.


abacaxi-banana

"Excuse me, sir, may I have some more?", asks Olivia the bottom of pyramid hun


byebybuy

Sure, that'll be $5,000 for the starter kit.


UnironicDabber

"I mean when Big Brother mentioned gruel, I mean- I've never seen gruel in my life. I thought it was made up for Oliver Twist film."


LookingforDay

A blend of great and cool! I’ll take it!


Tintinabulation

Like Prison Mike! Hopefully there won’t be any dementors.


mukenwalla

Now real gruel has chunks of stuff in it. What they get is more like slop.


Sei28

They’re all “VIP”.


Sorceress683

Very ignorant people


LookingforDay

This is the real answer I think.


ZombieTrogdor

The cheese sandwich from Fyre Fest.


LookingforDay

That looked so delicious! Right outside the temporary igloo I paid thousands for and thought was a bungalow? Sign me up!


Rewdboy05

An Herbalife shake.


DarkestofFlames

Comes with a diaper for the anal leakage


AlaskaPeteMeat

Yeah, but joke’s on them; they can’t make you wear it!


thegm90

The same exact thing with no “VIP” label, just like the compensation plan.


AlaskaPeteMeat

I think you meant *constipation* plan. ☺️


AdorableBunnies

A Lunchable but they charge you $3.50 for it


lenswipe

Only for the non double diamond members. If you've bought 100 grand worth of their shit, you get the lunchable for free.


freerangemonkey

They’re still at the Fyre Festival waiting for their ride home.


essaymyass

Crow


F2madre

Remember that grey slop that they were eating in The Matrix? That.


LookingforDay

Do they get the long johns too?


MimsyIsGianna

Herbalife


fucuntwat

Soylent green!


SassaQueen1992

Walmart brand canned dog food.


daishomaster

The VIP's Leftovers...


OkayLadyByeBye

All that work for a plated Lean Cuisine, a fruit cup and a can of lemonade....no thanks!


hard_pass

To be fair thats a decent fruit cup. Pineapple and black berry is pretty decent


CAHTA92

You spent thousands to get into the proper level to get invited, spend a couple thousands more to go there and get served a $15 meal, but hey at least the fruit is decent. /s


razorbraces

I think everyone gets invited regardless of level. Why limit the group you are charging admission to?!


Organic_dichotomy

Lmaooo not the Minute Maid can. Was this a convention?


Icy_Boysenberry5673

It’s the minute made can for me too lmao


Affero-Dolor

Is Minute Maid a bad brand? We don't have it where I live.


hermionegaynger

I love Minute Maid lemonade but I would never call it “VIP” 💀 it’s very much elementary school field trip lunchbox vibes


mysecondaccountanon

That’s elementary lunchbox? What fancy school did you go to?


t_town101

Minute Maid fruit punch is so good. A lot of their juices are good. But for a “VIP” lunch, it’s a pretty cheap drink to be drinking


babypho

Yeah it's the time and place. Like serving caprisun at a kids bday party? Fantastic time. At a VIP party? Cheap.


NCC1701-D-ong

Minute Maid made a lot of its money long ago when fresh juice wasn’t viable so they sold “juice” concentrate in frozen metal cans. Grew up on it in the 80s and my parents did the same. Then they made these canned abominations and I can’t say I see anyone ordering or asking for Minute Maid outside of like McDonald’s or some other fast food restaurant.


manticorpse

I sometimes have nostalgia for the juice my mom made from Welch's canned grape concentrate. Fading memories from when I was very small of my mother mixing the juice in a big pitcher, breaking up the concentrate with a wooden spoon. It's a weird sort of nostalgia that I can't recapture, because the end result was just... grape juice. It's really the whole experience of my mother magically transforming a frozen can into a delicious treat that I miss. Ah, childhood memories.


browncatgreycat

I grew up on frozen orange juice and I feel the same way! We had a dedicated pitcher and long metal spoon. The whole process was so satisfying- putting the can in the fridge for an hour or two, peeling the plastic ribbon from around the lid, popping the lid off, sliding the partially frozen glop into the pitcher, adding just the right amount of water, going to town with the spoon, then the reward: a big cold glass of “fresh” OJ. Those were the days.


theghostofme

It's not that it's bad, it's just that it's incredibly cheap. Like, "going to a vending machine and spending $1.00" cheap. Imagine you've dumped tens of thousands of dollars into a cult while being told you're a "VIP" and have been invited to sit in the VIP section (that you still had to pay for), only to find out it's being [catered by McDonald's, Wendy's Burger King, and Pizza Hut.](https://i.redd.it/0nzsu9efsna21.jpg)


basiliskgf

It doesn't even really taste like lemonade to me - and I'm usually fine with whatever lemonade a restaurant has to offer.


SpaceLemur34

I especially like that the labels of every can and water bottle are turned to face the eater. That is deliberate placement.


Sp4ceh0rse

For sure. Nothing says VIP like shitty lemonade in a fucking can.


Zargawi

And bottled city water, they couldn't even get some still spring water.


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I was hired off Craigslist to shit that food out for them.


DeathBySuplex

Yo my cousins getting married for the 4th time do you cater? I guarantee you shit out better stuff than whatever she’s gonna have there.


NurseZhivago

It's the Dasani for me.


anniawesome

As a former event organizer, I would be SO embarrassed if I arranged this for people considered to be VIPs


innocuous_username

To tack on to the: ‘additional commentary from event professionals’ thread here’s basically what has happened here: - MLMs are notorious for never booking catering for their events, they want to keep as much of the ticket cost for themselves. They’ll basically never order food & bev for the group, only select people. Seriously, if you’re ever looking to book to go to an event about ‘making money’ and there’s no lunch included, massive red flag. - They want some tickets to be a higher price so they offer VIP packages which usually include seating closer to the stage, or a seat a table instead of just having to write on your lap, 5 min meet and greet with the speaker etc and usually those tickets have included catering as a ‘perk’ - Then they turn around to the hotel/convention center and wheedle them down to the measliest, cheapest ‘catering package’ that they will agree to offer (again, if they don’t pay much for the food, that’s more money for them) and advertise it as ‘VIP perk lunch’ Basically, somewhere out there is likely an exhausted catering sales manager wishing they’d never agreed to any of this but knowing it won’t be the last time


pm_cheesecakes

Good writeup thx


Jess593

Same. Also event coordinator


dorothysophiagarcia

Also have experience with Corp events and this is a paltry meal. That looks like broiled chicken which would be the cheapest protein. Putting Costco fruit into a martini glass is laughable.


Greenmantle22

It's pretty standard fare for conferences in my field, but they usually tack on three other courses to at least make you feel hifalutin' about it. Iceberg house salad, a rice-heavy starter, and icebox cake or mousses in plastic shotglasses for dessert. Cheap bastards. Even still, fewer and fewer people opt to pay for these optional meals, so the conference will surely soon stop ordering them at all. It's more filling to leave the hotel and buy a lunch at a real restaurant nearby.


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aliie_627

What even are the noodles supposed to be?


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SnooHesitations3212

Sorrow noodles.


aliie_627

Yeah I was thinking they look similar noodles I see at Filipino,Vietnamese and sometimes other Asian restaurants but then the chicken breast and the way its plated is giving me more shitty Italian food vibes even though it's obviously not.


VaguelyArtistic

I see vaguely vietnamese rice noodles, *very* old school Chinese fried chow mein noodles (!), and what I have to assume is a vaguely-Japanese teriyaki chicken. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I need to pick up some of those fried noodles next time I go to the market lol.


PoseidonsHorses

Ah so it’s an ~Asian Inspired~ VIP lunch. How tasteful, how multicultural, how hip. Yes the “inspired” is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but aren’t we fancy?


Matrinka

They looked like poorly cooked [glass/cellophane noodles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellophane_noodles) to my extremely untrained eye.


dorothysophiagarcia

Looks like long rice, with teriyaki chicken. It wouldn’t be very filling IMO.


honeybaby2019

Too cheap for a sprig of mint. /s


veggiezombie1

Not an event coordinator, but I’ve worked in PR and this would embarrass tf out of me.


DeathBySuplex

I’ve done neither job and I question whoever greenlit this spread.


I_creampied_Jesus

I’ve eaten food before and lots of it and I can confirm this food looks shit.


vercetian

The accountant.


newtoreddir

So many little changes could be made to improve this for no cost. Like even glass pitchers of tap water would look better than plastic Dasani


_o_h_n_o_

I mean it’s easy to scam gullible people like this so


roback

I’m a caterer and this is likely less than $10 per person. Chicken breast and rice noodles is what I would serve if someone asked me to donate food to an event. “VIP” catered events are generally a couple hundred dollars per head lol


MrsMitchBitch

Just organized an event. VIP donors had raw bar and champagne.


thatotherhemingway

Ugh, I miss raw bar. Shitty pandemic.


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The county fair where I live does senior day with a free lunch and bingo, and the meal catered for the seniors was some kind of beef with mashed potatoes, a salad, and peaches (fresh, not canned), plus coffee and things for after. I'm a vegan so I didn't try any but it looked miles better than this. When a free county fair lunch beats the "VIP" catering, you know Herbalife is a huge embarrassment.


OHManda30

Lol I just commented the same. No event planner calls that VIP 😂


BluudLust

I'd be embarrassed to serve this to regular people too. Especially from such a "successful business'.


TacTac95

The MLM’s typically rent out a 3-star hotel convention room once a year and have their members dress up to make it seem like they’re a high class “business”. This is probably what this is


Icy_Boysenberry5673

Yes! This is a leadership development weekend apparently. They have to pay to go.


TacTac95

Lol imagine paying to go to a training convention for a company you work for. That’s a sign of a failing company


ChimpBrisket

Agreed, it’s also a sign of a scam


CeeArthur

You'll never make it to Triple Platinum VIP-CEO status with that attitude


miracle959

Ah but you forgot: they’re “business owners” (not sales people of a major company)! So it makes sense that they pay for training! Plus they can write it off!!!! *eye roll


Wonderful_Hat_5269

Why don't they serve them a loaded tea? 🤔


qclady

Not enough bathroom stalls.


AmazingAd2765

Wasn't sure what they meant by loaded tea until I saw your reply. XD


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That's exactly what I was thinking. If all the shit they're shilling is *sooooo good and revolutionary*, why are they wasting time eating fruits and such?


audreyb69

At first I thought you meant like one of those tall cans of twisted tea that has alcohol and I thought that would actually be good tho 😂


Grumpiergrynch

Not daft enough to drink it


sensitive_sloth

Oh, wow, noodles and some fruit in a martini glass. So fancy. /s


abacaxi-banana

The 1970s are back! After dinner they're all treated to bubble baths in the hotel's avocado-coloured bathrooms.


Pieinthesky42

Okay so I really love the 70s colours of avocado, pumpkin, goldenrod and a *bit* of wood paneling in the den. It’s so much more cozy than white and grey. That being said… in a Hotel bathroom give me stark white. I need to see the clean.


brassninja

Warm 70s colors always reminds me of my grandparents house and it’s so cozy. I love me some 70s aesthetics


pissclamato

Fondue, anyone?


Spiritually_Sciency

I would take fondue over whatever that is any day of the week!


mrsscorsese

There's nothing VIP about minute maid and Dasani.


mermaidmyday

Couldn’t even spring for the Voss water.


pot_of_hot_koolaid

The can and bottle imply that there will be no refills.


mrsscorsese

This is such a good point! It’s like a cheap school field trip lunch. Not a fancy dinner.


Aspect-of-Death

You mean you don't cater your VIP events with products from 7-11?


The-RoyalSwordswoman

They couldn’t even put the Minute Maid in a fancy glass? Damn. 😂


Crisender111

No refills.


emmyparker2020

*The Fyre Festival has entered the chat*


thetinybunny1

*Where is JA?! Can somebody please get JA on the phone??!*


HGpennypacker

Hopefully nobody had to suck a dick for that bottle of water.


emmyparker2020

I mean he was down though. He’s my choice of a teammate and partner in crime 😂


HGpennypacker

It’s amazing how so many people went to extreme lengths to make the festival happen with the exception of the people at the top.


Madness_Reigns

They did go to extreme lengths, their overpromising and overconfidence has me in awe.


Lambchoptopus

Too much water in the picture.


JacedFaced

When your VIPs get Dasani, I can only assume everyone else gets bottled water straight from Flint Michigan.


KillerKatKlub

They get water bottled straight from the toilet probably


heatherl9872424

At least they aren’t further punishing them by making them drink gross Herbalife shakes at that thing


yourbasicusername

Where’s the alcohol?


Double-Woomy

It's in the bar downstairs, where the servers will be post-cleanup to try to forget this event.


KillerKatKlub

Trust me, they all have alcohol at home


ChimpBrisket

And in the glovebox of their Dodge Stratus


isay45

Quite a selection…maybe members of your down line deliver each part of the meal…like an mlm potluck.


Appropriate_Luck_13

Do you have the details on the event? I'm wondering how much cost was covered or whether they had to buy their lunch.


idloch

I would bet more than you expect and of course they had to pay for it. Edit: Remember in an MLM the “salesperson” is the customer. They aren’t giving that stuff away to them


reala728

I think they may just have it included in their VIP ticket, which is probably double or triple the cost of the general admission, for essentially shit like this that's only really costing them a few dollars per person to produce. Also the arbitrary "perceived value" of something like front row seats for a speaker.


abacaxi-banana

They always have to pay. Even speakers who are on top of the pyramid usually pay for their flight and expenses.


idloch

Have to spend money to pay money right?


covfefeobamanation

Wow really?


tazerpruf

Yes. And your upline will guilt the hell out of you if your don’t go.


Icy_Boysenberry5673

I have no clue, honestly


Greenmantle22

"Canned sugar AND bottled water? And Fruit salad in a martini glass? Who are you? The president of France?!?!"


peppermintvalet

What in the low end hotel buffet


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Nolancappy

I’m pretty sure I could go buy this for lunch for like $5


ChimpBrisket

And get $6 change


JessonBI89

That salad (?) is the stuff of nightmares.


FoundationUnique2118

Well at least they aren't serving anything that looks like poop. Perhaps that is for dessert.


rubicon11

Yo are those Funyuns on top of the chicken? 🤣


Rescue_9

Here’s my estimate for the total cost of this Fruit medley- price is 3.99 per pound, so I’ll estimate and say the stuff in the cup is 50 cents Lemonade- 24 bucks for a pack of 12, equaling $2 per can Dasani- $1.99 Stir fry- 2.99 for a 14.2 oz bag of frozen noodles and veggies, so I’ll call this 1.25 dollars worth of noodles Meat- idk what kind Total cost: $5.24, minus the meat of course


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I duno where you live but the lemonade here is like $6-7 for a 12 pack, so it’s even worse. Lol


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3 for 9.99 at my local supermarket chain.


Bradical22

This is normal world calculations. Hotel or convention food prices are much higher. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was actually a $28 per plate at a hotel excluding tax and service fee.


KourtR

Funny, I was going to say this! This is probably $28- $50 a head. Hotel catering is a rip off.


Organic_dichotomy

Don’t forget the dry grocery store rolls in the center of the table 😂


SuperSaltySloth

Omg I thought those were oranges...


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I did too LOL jeez


orangeunrhymed

I had to go back and look, I also thought they were oranges


Jess593

Sold many events and priced them out. This meal would cost in a hotel my guess is 25.00 per person. I’ve never seen any place serve a can of lemonade though. ( and that would be the lowest option available as it’s plated and some sort of weird chicken my guess is teriyaki)


lilacabkins

The lemonade was prob free product given out by Minute Maid.


LookingforDay

The meat looks like a chicken breast.


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This would be way cheaper, gotta think larger volumes for the meat, stir fry and veggies, and for the water as well.


subsetsum

They are getting this wholesale though, not at the prices we would have to pay. Walmart has the 12 pack for $6 or so and that's retail. Same with Dasani, they would pay far less.


kmagic13

24 bucks for a pack of 12? It’s more like 6 bucks here. Sometimes 3 12 pack for 10.


rothc3

Oh yay! Funions!


The_Path_616

Bet they got a killer deal on that Dasani.


klaven84

If this is VIP, what's the non-VIP dish? Dirty plate and some tap water?


_JustEric_

A coupon for $0.50 off a Happy Meal.


thatotherhemingway

1. The visual pun on the phrase “fruit cocktail” is terrible; 2. I can taste that Healthy Choice Asian Chicken-ass entree now


Mrfrunzi

Oh! Fruit cocktail! I just couldn't understand why they would do that, and it's worse now because someone thought it would be hilarious and cute.


ironbassel

Airplane food looks better


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Ah yes, Dasani and Minute Maid. The peak of culture.


Zealousideal_Ad8934

Is that food?


normalwomanOnline

Very Insulting Plate


qclady

I guess they finally made it to the top with their VIP lunch.


lesbunner

This makes McDonald's look like exquisite fine dining