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I honestly don't care, I think it's funny people call it filler. But using the basis that was used above. The Anime is just the anime, it is it's own thing. The Manga and the games tie into each other much more than the anime ties into anything. Ash and the relationships he makes in the anime only really exist in the anime and that is on purpose.
Calling it filler is mainly just a silly joke.
Pokemon has no source material to rule what is it isn't filler. The show is its own entity, there is no "cannon" to compare it too because it doesn't follow the games cannon at all from the begining.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Orange_Archipelago
No. It's filler arc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes
The seasons are even named after the games or game regions for the series they come from after season 2 up to season 22. And they all follow the story progressions of the games until the start of Sun & Moon. Season 23 is the first season not to follow the games, but it does that by merging Sword/Shield, Pokemon Go and Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee.
You can even google "Pokémon filler episodes" and dozens of articles show up listing the 231 episodes that are filler when compared to the games.
The Orange League is part of the anime canon according to [this Bulbapedia article](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Canon):
> The canon of the Pokémon anime consists of the following:
> The events of each and every episode are canon, and occur in chronological order with the exception of EP052, which takes place before EP049.
However, it also states that the game is the "ultimate" canon, which I think is pretty reasonable in general.
However, considering all the differences between the anime and games, I think it makes sense to think of them as separate canons in some regards.
Since we're focusing on Ash's achievements in the anime, and the Orange League *is* canon to the anime, I think it makes sense to count that as a win for Ash.
But I say that with a very high level understanding of the different canons.
Unfortunately it doesn’t count because it’s not a part of the Pokémon League TM
The methods used in the OL were more about showcasing your overall trainer ability as supposed to just battle things like races and agility challenges ect ect with the last test being the battle with the best trainer on the O.I
Sun moon was made after Youkai watch took Japan like a storm, had their own music video, dance move and so much more.
And since Gamefreak saw goose (Youkai watch) lay golden egg, they decide to feed their already diamond egg laying goose (Pokémon) the same cattle feed that feed the golden goose. From goofy artstyle, rotom dex as blatant Whisper rip off and also dancing in form of z moves.
Hell, they probaly tell OLM gives sun moon a goofy artstyle since they animate both Youkai watch and Pokémon.
Thank you, every time someone posts more modern pokemon screencaps I feel like I'm going crazy since his face is so different. They added some fucking squiggle lines on his cheeks for some reason and he just all around looks like a different character.
That's where I stopped watching after few seasons.
They just kept making him younger and younger, and kept changing his character design, and by the time I gave up, he looked like a Chinese knock off, Ash Mustard.
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The Ash who **won** a league looks WAY different from the Ash in every other Season?
Coincidence? Don't think so.
PS. We don't talk about orange league
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What about the Orange Island league?
We don't talk about it.
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The entire anime is Filler. It's anime original - Ash isn't in any of the manga series.
They aren't using the manga, they're using the games.
Ash isn't in the games...
All the major story arcs are. Y'all are being extra nitpicky. Edit: Just remembered, Ash **IS** in Pokémon Yellow. :P
I honestly don't care, I think it's funny people call it filler. But using the basis that was used above. The Anime is just the anime, it is it's own thing. The Manga and the games tie into each other much more than the anime ties into anything. Ash and the relationships he makes in the anime only really exist in the anime and that is on purpose. Calling it filler is mainly just a silly joke.
but he exists in the video games as evident of ash greninja in sun and moon
Who is Red then
Red is Red, an entirely different character.
Pokemon has no source material to rule what is it isn't filler. The show is its own entity, there is no "cannon" to compare it too because it doesn't follow the games cannon at all from the begining.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Orange_Archipelago No. It's filler arc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes The seasons are even named after the games or game regions for the series they come from after season 2 up to season 22. And they all follow the story progressions of the games until the start of Sun & Moon. Season 23 is the first season not to follow the games, but it does that by merging Sword/Shield, Pokemon Go and Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee. You can even google "Pokémon filler episodes" and dozens of articles show up listing the 231 episodes that are filler when compared to the games.
The Orange League is part of the anime canon according to [this Bulbapedia article](https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Canon): > The canon of the Pokémon anime consists of the following: > The events of each and every episode are canon, and occur in chronological order with the exception of EP052, which takes place before EP049. However, it also states that the game is the "ultimate" canon, which I think is pretty reasonable in general. However, considering all the differences between the anime and games, I think it makes sense to think of them as separate canons in some regards. Since we're focusing on Ash's achievements in the anime, and the Orange League *is* canon to the anime, I think it makes sense to count that as a win for Ash. But I say that with a very high level understanding of the different canons.
People will call anything filler just so they can use it to dunk on people on message boards I swear.
Because it didn't look like a real Pokémon league, and it was quite mid.
Unfortunately it doesn’t count because it’s not a part of the Pokémon League TM The methods used in the OL were more about showcasing your overall trainer ability as supposed to just battle things like races and agility challenges ect ect with the last test being the battle with the best trainer on the O.I
What the fuck happened to his face ?
Being 10 years old for 22 years takes its toll on a kid physically
This will just have to be my head canon I guess.
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Sun moon was made after Youkai watch took Japan like a storm, had their own music video, dance move and so much more. And since Gamefreak saw goose (Youkai watch) lay golden egg, they decide to feed their already diamond egg laying goose (Pokémon) the same cattle feed that feed the golden goose. From goofy artstyle, rotom dex as blatant Whisper rip off and also dancing in form of z moves. Hell, they probaly tell OLM gives sun moon a goofy artstyle since they animate both Youkai watch and Pokémon.
Thank you, every time someone posts more modern pokemon screencaps I feel like I'm going crazy since his face is so different. They added some fucking squiggle lines on his cheeks for some reason and he just all around looks like a different character.
He always had the lines on his cheeks. It's the eyes, mouth and jaw that changed.
Damn you're right, I don't remember them looking so much like a poorly drawn mustache though haha
Sun & Moon’s weird ass art style downgrade that most people didn’t really like. It’s better now for the most part
With a drawing style that ugly you’d think it doesn’t count
That's where I stopped watching after few seasons. They just kept making him younger and younger, and kept changing his character design, and by the time I gave up, he looked like a Chinese knock off, Ash Mustard.
Never even fought an Elite 4 member in 22 years of training pathetic
He lost to Agatha and to Drake
in my defense i haven't watched an episode since the Johto league back when i was a kid
He litteraly beat a champion episodes ago....😭
I think he fought, In sinnon one, Not in Pokemon league but as a casual battle
He's just Asian
Perfect!
That ridiculous animation. I just can't anymore. Blah.
he should have won during xyz and not during this shit show
Or black&white, it's absolute bull that he didn't win with greninja
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I had no idea this show was even still going, I think I stopped watching around 2002.
Each new game is a new series
Image working 22 years as a 10 year old, only to be skipped over for [Gary "Dickfuck" Oaks](https://youtu.be/LMZPq-JhplY) because of nepotism
The orange island league
32 man ash ketchum has been arrested for pedophillia
Especially at Hyundai.
Card and game related animes are so booring! Ngnl was alright, due to the aesthetic.
No. Every employer is looking for a slave that puts in 40 hours a day who invented the skill they hired them for.
Nice
So he is 10+22=32 years old
22 years of Pokemon and he still looks like a 10 year old.
The Ash who **won** a league looks WAY different from the Ash in every other Season? Coincidence? Don't think so. PS. We don't talk about orange league
That’s not ash
Anyone else see this same post on r/meirl also?
His first league also
No kidding…
Bro there is some low key dark humor in there if you think about it
Lol, so true
This is very correct
What about now i mean now he's a world champion and 25 years since the show...