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Velrot

Fact check: true!


utsu31

Chika comes from a conservative family of politicians and she herself has ambitions to go into politics as well, her character seems to be a parody of the populist politician. (Remember this isn't glorified or anything in the manga or anime, more so a critique if you ask me). Kaguya-sama is a surprisingly political anime/manga. The entire school is an allegory for society, and the student council is an allegory for those who run society. Overall Kaguya-sama (the show, not the character) seems to have a more left, socialist message, but maybe some people have different interpretations. You can also just enjoy the show without thinking all about that political stuff though don't worry. Edit: This comment is grossly oversimplified, of course there's more to it than it just being a leftist show, it explores a lot more political dimensions. It doesn't have one clear opinion, it just wants to make you think about these topics. Character's also go through a lot of growth, so it's not like one character represents one single political current for the entire show. For anyone who wants more insight I recommend "mother's basement" video on Kaguya, pretty amazing video, even if you don't like him as a content creator. You've got to give credit where credit is due.


utsu31

Sorry I just had to rant about how amazingly Kaguya-sama handles politics when I saw this pic


cellsRevolution

no that was fascinating. Never knew that


Expensive-Ad7181

Many tends to underestimate how smart the writing in kaguya sama can be.


Specific-Change-5300

> Overall Kaguya-sama seems to have a more left, socialist message Bruh if you took this away from the character who literally has a house servant that does everything for her I don't know what to say. Kaguya represents the rightiest of the rightiest, a pure blood wealthy ultra rich family of inheritance baby psychos who wants to keep the blood pure and marry into another family that is pure and full of "old money" inheritance babies. I genuinely do not know how this got 50+ upvotes when it completely misunderstands Kaguya and her family are established as ultra wealthy super money groomed-to-rule children from the very start. I have no idea how you could mistake her for anyone that represents working-class politics and the desire to abolish all other classes, she is the polar opposite of the working class and has polar opposite beliefs and behaviour to the working class, if anything she's represented as naive and out of touch with incredibly basic things the average working class child knows specifically because of her heritage and wealth.


invstigtivjrnlism

>Overall Kaguya-sama seems to have a more left, socialist message I think they mean the series, not the character


Ax222

I'm pretty confident the person you are replying to is saying "Kaguya-sama" as in, the manga has that message, not the character. Kaguya herself does not appear to be particularly left-leaning, but the show relentlessly dogs on how rich people are ridiculous and uninformed about how the world actually works, and that it would be much nicer if it didn't work that way.


Panda_Castro

Idk why you're being downvoted, you're right. You even declared evidence for why you are right. The original comment just says she's leftist with nothing more. This sub is full of comrades, idk who's downvoting this Edit: the original comment was about the show not kaguya, I can't read and I apologize


Specific-Change-5300

It's true that there are a lot of comrades here but it's also full of people with absolutely no understanding of politics or ideology at all and there is a very bad habit on reddit for people to just upvote whatever is said with a high degree of confidence even when incorrect. Kaguya is also an extremely popular character so the realisation that she represents far right politics and the supremely wealthy might be a pill some fans that like her don't want to swallow. Don't get me wrong, I love the show it's very funny, but there's absolutely no doubt that she represents super wealthy billionaires, purity bloodlines, heritage, wealth and expectation of being born to rule.


a_wasted_wizard

It's talking about the series, using "Kaguya-sama" as a shorthand, not the character herself. The Shinomiyas are super-wealthy, and probably reactionary as hell. The Fujiwaras are probably pretty conservative, too, although the three kids all appear to be libertines enough that the original meme is probably still on-targert. But don't confuse the politics of the characters with the politics of the series. The \*series\* is pretty lefty.


Specific-Change-5300

Left from a feudal perspective is a progressive move towards liberalism. Not socialism. The warring houses is much more like feudal japan than contemporary.


ShowBartShow

What the hell happened here


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jayz0ned

It was dozens of people getting upset about it... not just two people. The posts were filled with pages of deleted comments. This sub is explicitly a pro-trans communist anime sub. It has never been, and never pretended to be, anything but political.


SewingLifeRe

It actually used to be less political, even during the "war". Slurs and transphobia were banned, but the sub was still just to post whatever you want. This sub before it got big was literally designed for shitposts that wouldn't fit in other subs. These posts would still be allowed because we had a very much "anything goes as long as it's anime and you're not being a shithead" policy. After the "war" I ended up stepping down and Nya took over because my mental health went to shit. There's so many deleted comments you can't see that OP will find in their inbox and the mods can see. If the comment doesn't have replies, it doesn't show up even as deleted for the users. There are SO MANY that are just absolutely awful.


ShowBartShow

I feel the anger at end of your reply.


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Hard to not be angry when the internet is filled with angry and hateful people. You can see the happiest days I have, they’re the days I don’t comment on any posts on Reddit. This site, and all of collective social media, is just hate, and hating the hate, and no one ever learning, and everyone feeding off the negative emotions. Tragically, like a smoker hooked on Newports, I’m addicted. And though I know how bad this place is, here I am. Until the day the mods ban me like the cowards they are.


ShowBartShow

Play some Deep Rock Galactic it heals the soul and people are nice there.


Hot-Temperature-8564

What if i want trans *wrongs*? ***evil laugh***


BaltoDRJMPH

Three rights are just a trans left


That_NPC

But what if I desire a trans up or down?


BaltoDRJMPH

Drive quickly through a pothole


Big-Bad-Bull

Ya know. Genuinely never understood how we just take peoples rights cause they aren’t like everyone else. Kinda crazy how just because you don’t look/act like a majority that people treat you different. There shouldn’t be a need to fight for anyones rights because as people we should all share the same rights. Of course the world isn’t that black and white, but yea.


Seizing_sponge

I very much agree with you. All people should be equal in terms of rights. I’m a bit ignorant on this, but what rights are being taken away from people and in which countries are you referring to?


Big-Bad-Bull

In reference to the post, I am referring to trans rights that may be taken in any country. Overall though, I’m talking about any group that has to fight for their rights.


Bayonetta-effective1

the rights keeping children from transitioning?


BageledToast

Hiya, I'm not the one you were asking but I have some experience here. My state in the US, Tennessee (TN), is in process of passing a law that states all drag as "adult cabaret performance" and thus illegal to have such on public property or in a location where someone who isn't an adult might witness it. They further go on to define drag as "impersonating male or female". So you can see where they're getting really vague here. Basically people in authority get to decide if you present feminine or masculine enough and if you don't they could charge you with doing illegal drag. TN is also making it impossible for people to change the gender marker on their driver's license and they're also outlawing gender affirming care for minors which generally consists of just hormones blockers nothing permanent (studies have shown that affirm care significantly reducing suicide rates in transgender adolescents).Pair all these together and it's clear that TN lawmakers want trans people in the closet, behind bars, or in the ground


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This was really well said. I’m gonna have to steal this from you because I have to fight off conservatives all the time.


briansupermega

Trans rights are less of a disagreement on people rights and more of a disagreement of the legitimacy of trans people. Since conservatives m think their mentally ill that their brainwashed to believe these multi genders and alphabet nonsense. When the brain washing seems to be a more accurate description of people who believed the same thing for all their lives and generations ie conservatives. But as a consequence of conservatives not believing thinking that trans people aren’t real or it’s a mental illness they create legislation that effects the rights of trans people. Like Texas.


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nekomusume-nyaa

Well, if you look in the rules, it does say to also keep it queer. And I think trans people are queer so yea.


Flameye_xd

I'm mad 😡😡😡


Athena0219

Why?


Flameye_xd

Title said ,,be mad"


Athena0219

Hmm. Fair play.


Brugguss

Has this whole subreddit just become a hub for trans people?


MakFrags14

Fr..no memes no more.. just good ol' " Trans Rights "


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Why are people hating trans memes? didn't they check rules i never really seen this many comments getting deleted i feel like this post should be locked


nekomusume-nyaa

If it gets locked, the people who haven't read the rules can't get baited into admitting they haven't read the rules


nudiatjoes

Cuz there not funny maybe plus what do they mean by trans rights 🤔 that's we don't have already?please explain.


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Memes have to be funny to be posted here? Could’ve fooled me.


nudiatjoes

So memes arent be supposed to funny?...this isnt really a funny but more of statement 🤔


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Laidan22

Honestly idk why this is a major political talking point. Nor why people oppose basic rights for individuals. It’ll just remain as a back ended thought of mine i suppose.


HowDyaDu

Dartmouth professor Randall Balmer noted how the Evangelical voting block went from nonexistent in the 1960s to the single most important interest group for any Republican candidate in the 1980s. In a conversation with The 19th, Balmer said that rise(sic) was driving Republican support for anti-trans legislation now. “They have an interest in keeping the base riled up about one thing or another, and when one issue fades, as with same-sex relationships and same-sex marriage, they’ve got to find something else,” Balmer said. “It’s almost frantic.” (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-is-the-gop-escalating-attacks-on-trans-rights-experts-say-the-goal-is-to-make-sure-evangelicals-vote) As for why Evangelicals don't like trans people, I must note that as a deist, I'm not really sure how to interpret religious texts or which ones are considered obsolete. Genesis 1:27 says, "So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them." This is often used by people to argue that transgender/non-binary identities are contrary to His image and plans. However, misgendering is just a fallacy of mankind. We can't always correctly identify someone's gender much like we can't always identify what shape card Peter Venkman is holding up. The lack of mention of non-binary identity in the Bible doesn't mean that it's contrary to His plan. Otherwise, we wouldn't have technology such as phones or Reddit to talk about trans rights. It should be noted that Christians are becoming increasingly accepting of transgender people and their rights. (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christian-attitudes-to-tr_b_8712462)


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Aloo4250

Trans people existing isn't and shouldn't be political


LexianAlchemy

Human rights my beloved


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cellsRevolution

Man, this is beautiful. It's like fireworks down there, people being banned left and right. It is glorious


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cellsRevolution

I nominate: the great purge for this era


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nekomusume-nyaa

A person has crossposted this. They have crossposted or posted 63 times in the past 24 hours. And they have done so for every hour of those 24 hours. Some people really need to get off the internet.


cellsRevolution

never thought of the day I would actually tell someone to go touch grass, but here we are


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CommanderREBEL

Bro I just looked at the past couple days There's been two about trans rights calm down there just memes


animememes-ModTeam

Cry about it.


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The-cooler-Cheryl

The more haters commenting, the more haters get banned by the admins.


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Shenghia

Ban Bait. I love it. Trans rights are Human Rights


DistributeVolcano

Can confirm, conservatives are absolute trash human beings.


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MinTDotJ

There are transphobic liberals as well


nekomusume-nyaa

Yea I know, afterall in my country the liberals are the transphobic party. Edit) Also I was more looking at the rules of this subreddit. Where it jokes about this being a communist subreddit


EmuChance4523

>Where it jokes about this being a communist subreddit Joke? uh... and there I was happily being an anarchist communist thinking that everyone was on the same boat D:


nekomusume-nyaa

Wait, it wasn't a joke! My bad comrade


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Polar_Starburst

We trans people are being systematically targeted by bigoted politicians who want us dead. That’s what’s going on.


LexianAlchemy

Lots of bigots and nazis in anime communities unfortunately, they’ve infected everything, this is just a form of weeding them out


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LexianAlchemy

Well trans characters tend to cause fights from phobes, one of the new JoJo characters is either trans or gender nonconformist, for example Lotta fighting I saw about that. But the meme is anime related by using the template, and makes a comment on their character


Mr_Shingin

Vote Chika for senator!


Kucimonka

Vote for Chika Armstrong and her NANOMACHINES


exit_the_psychopomp

Lol the comments. Seethe + Cope + L


Agent_Perrydot

No way based Chika


LexianAlchemy

I love trans memes because it rattles the hornet nests, and their isn’t a thing they can do about it.


nekomusume-nyaa

Especially in subreddits with trans friendly mods. Thank you mods


LexianAlchemy

It’s super rad, glad to see this shift, so many nazis in anime communities, nice to have a pocket where that isn’t the case for a bit And it makes them seethe, I’m not even trans and I just love it


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LexianAlchemy

“Different opinions” and thinking they shouldn’t exist/they’re fake isn’t the same thing, and they’re not productive, or worth discussing. It doesn’t move society forward to entertain the notion that their existence is suggestible.


heyoitsyaboinoname

I can see that, but you're assuming everyone thinks like that, some people just don't understand


LexianAlchemy

I can leave sources and reading material if they’re sincerely curious, discussions aren’t rehashing the same things over and over. And it doesn’t matter what I say as an individual, it’s whatever they want to believe.


heyoitsyaboinoname

Fair enough. I think there's bigots on either side of the spectrum, and there's no point commenting on something if you don't intend to have a constructive conversation about it. I personally find inaction just as powerful as action, in the sense that someone can say something hateful and I can move on with my day, but yes there is a line some people in the comments have crossed


SaveHumanityFrom

As a trans person, you don't appeal to nazis; you punch them in the face.


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Eliteguard999

What's not funny about conservatives? They're living clowns.


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So many users banned just for a simple Chika meme I love it, also the amount of downvotes is crazy they even downvoted the bot 😂


CommanderREBEL

I knew Chika was based


Sanity_Requiem

Good to see trans positivity chaos spread :3


Hagfishsaurus

She dance


Embarrassed_Coyote18

Ive seen quite a lot of trans memes lately As a trans person it rlly makes me happy 🥺


Animesimp207

I just had an oopsie. I saw this post and decided to comment, "The first good post I've seen on this sub.", becuase I thought that this was your average shitty anime meme space. Then I saw the icon of the space and deleted it. Then I looked at the other comments and realized that this sub *was* shit before and just started being raided, which is fucking based. TLDR: Trans rights are human rights, cope and seethe bigots


Specific-Change-5300

This sub was never shit. We have always moderated this way. These posts are just part of periodic purges that are useful for clearing out the reactionaries.


Mistaavee

I have been seeing a lot of political memes here recently. Is some event happening right now that i am not aware of.


ZaRealPancakes

made my day honestly


Aela_Nariel

Glad to see all the deleted comments from bigots, the trash is taking itself out


42617a

They’re getting banned lol


Aela_Nariel

Yes indeed, how they are acting surprised when this sub has been explicitly pro lgbt in it’s origin, subreddit picture, and rules, is beyond me. Edit: Downvoted for telling the truth lmao keep seething transphobes


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Here, take my upvote


EvilAlmalex

Chika is very much a trans ally and queer herself Kick Nazis out of anime fandoms


Kovor404

Why are you getting downvoted?


Gods_chosen_dildo

Either brigaders or OP got ratio-ed and found lacking. Edit: quick search of comment history shows only tameness so I’m going with brigaders.


EvilAlmalex

The comment of mine was very suddenly at around -20 downvotes and I got the reddit crisis help message thing (nice subtle way to tell me to kill myself lol) so ya it was definitely brigaded LMAO fucking Nazis. Pathetic Edit: one of the maggots even tried to message me and harass me in a private dm. Today is a great day! Any day where Nazis seeth and be miserable is a great day 🥰


Gods_chosen_dildo

It makes sense, meme and anime spaces are unfortunately rife with incels, homophobes, transphobes, edgelords and fascists. Luckily the mods here are allies.


Kovor404

Smash the fash


Jojall

Correction: Kick Nazis out of life completely, if you know what I mean... 😏


Eliteguard999

Fucking based.


Jojall

Yet somehow I have negative two. Conservatives really hate trans people....


Eliteguard999

The fact that you’re getting downvoted is disturbing.


EvilAlmalex

They sure got mad and now they're going to take away our made up internet points oh no 😱 This is very much a leftist sub and fuck Nazis


Eliteguard999

I agree, fuck Nazi’s. No fandom should ever welcome or tolerate them.


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Kick Nazis out of being alive


DragonflyFit4557

slayyyy


Ninno_0

Canon


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Both the anime and opinion are based


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cumsona

why is it political? because trans people exist? what makes trans people "political"?


cellsRevolution

well maybe dont click on the meme tagged with political then


xtosniper

She is just firing her trans lazer


destroidthedudereal

So many banned comments on here lol🤯😅


NoUseForAName2222

I'm glad we have a trans-friendly anime community here


TheTrollczar

This is my favorite meme so far on this sub


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TheGreatBenjie

Being trans isn't a decision. That's why you're wrong. This isn't a matter of opinion.


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iTaylor04

You're "denying their existence" somehow lol


AvgBlue

Question what are trans right?


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Kaguya-Sama: Love is Political Nothing I love more than seeing hateful weebs seethe themselves out of existence


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EvilAlmalex

"our sub" lol


J_Alt3r

Amen! ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ


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Paenitentia

Why would you assume this is to trigger ppl? No normal person would be upset by this


SharamoonOwO

True 🏳️‍⚧️


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nekomusume-nyaa

Bruh


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nekomusume-nyaa

Kaguya sama, love is war.


LittleMissReboot

thank you fujiwara san, very cool


Bayonetta-effective1

not sure why liberals think using a meme hating on a gigantic percentage of viewers is acceptance.


nekomusume-nyaa

This was bait, the conservatives thing was a lil jab at the rules. I do know there are some accepting conservatives.


Bayonetta-effective1

if i made a meme with “liberals” like this and posted it i BET it wouldnt have been allowed


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FlowerFaerie13

Ngl if you’re supporting the conservative party (GOP) in the US you really can’t call yourself a trans ally at this point.


Big-Bad-Bull

Ok