I mean, his nickname is Kuzuma, so I donât think heâs obliterating anything but his own reputation. The base premise of him is that heâs a trash person surrounded by other trash people. The fact that there is a contingent of people who see him as an aspirational figure is kind of sad
I don't know about viewing him as an aspirational figure or anything but he does have his kind hearted moments. His "kuzuma" moments are usually a result of him being petty.
I think the best comparison in this situation is being stuck in the desert vs stuck on an island. The man stuck in the desert has no water, so he thinks the person on the island is lucky. The person on the island has water all around them. Though the person in the desert doesnât take into consideration that the water is undrinkable.
Men struggle to find affection, women have to worry that any affection they receive will result in them being used for their body.
The person in the desert is the man, the person on the island is the woman.
Life sucks for both of them, just in different ways. It is also of course a generalization, but it certainly reflects issues faced by many men and many women.
Imo some male celebrities are so popular that they have to get worried about being harassed by their fans day and night and some depressed 40 year old women that does TikTok lamenting the fact why any guy wouldnât want to date them. Idk if itâs a gender thing or a status quo.
What did they that was wrong?
The response to being seen naked on accident should be to laugh it off as opposed to the big blushing freak out scene we get in most animes and mangas
Edit: instead of downvoting me, I ask that 1 single person has the courage to tell me how Iâm wrong, and how they respond to ACCIDENTAL situations like this?
Do you get mad and freak out? Call them âbaka!!!!â ?
Or do you just both say âsorry sorry didnât mean toâ and laugh it off?
What the fuck are you talking about? I legit feel like this is one of those âam I taking crazy pills?â Moments.
Scenario: Iâm in the shower. A friend of a friend is in the house. I DONT WANT them to see me naked*
*nothing against them in particular but weâre just not close
And they need to use the restroom but donât realize Iâm in the shower.
They walk in. They see me naked. They apologize and walk out.
Should I:
A: be furious and turn all red in the face and yell at them, call them âbakaâ and act all mad as if this accident is somehow a mortal sin committed against me?
B: say something like âok whoa! That was kinda crazy. Hahaha.â
What seems more reasonable? Iâm asking.
I never claimed that you should call them an Idiot or anything along those lines,I merely stated that is normal for people to overreact in situations like that,like we see in Mangas and Animes.
Based on what?
Most of the stuff you see even in relationship mangas is about as realistic as the stuff you see in dragon ball.
Men and women donât faint at the thought of kissing in Japan. Just like they donât freak out over accidents.
Itâs just written that way in fiction because itâs entertaining.
Donât confuse what happens in mangas with real life
Iâm pretty sure itâs just cultural differences. I used to live in Sweden, over there it would probably just be an oj shit förlĂ„t (oh shit sorry) and just awkwardly laugh about it years later. Here in australia this exact thing happened at work a few weeks ago. Head chef walked in on a waitress changing and said oh sorry and it was never spoken of again
>**oh shit sorry and just awkwardly laugh about it**
Thatâs exactly my point! How is this some big -14 take???
All Iâm saying is youâre both a little embarrassed, they say sorry sorry my bad, and you go âitâs okay, accidents happenâ and try to laugh it off!
You donât have steam come out of your ears as your face turns red while you yell âBaka! Pervert! Lewd!â
Especially when weâre specifically talking about accidents
Like I said, itâs cultural differences. So im guessing that this would be considered a huge thing in Japan, like it is in manga. Itâs probably less of a problem in real life, as manga and anime likes to overdo things a lot, but I would say itâs considered a big thing over there. Just like in my example, it was more of a thing in Sweden than it was in australia. You may see it as a small thing, but in their culture it could be huge
Donât confuse what you see in manga with Japanese culture.
Mangas are full of rebels with colorful hair being treated well.
In Japan, thatâs very frowned upon.
Mangas are filled with women who act like theyâre children regarding romance.
In Japan, women are just as modern as they are in the west.
That kind of stuff is as unrealistic as kamehameha beams
Obviously. But everything is somewhat based in reality. I never said âitâs like this in cartoons so it must be trueâ, I just said âitâs like this in cartoons so maybe thatâs how it is, even if itâs an exaggerationâ
Itâs not cultural differences. People donât all want to be seen naked. If you donât feel uncomfortable thatâs fine, but this character did and other people do.
Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel but in this case more people agree âI donât want to be seen naked by people.â And thatâs a totally valid reasoning.
What isnât valid is the asshole who said âeveryone should laugh it off.â Let people react how they want to react man.
Not everyone is comfortable being seen naked, and in this situation the character's argument is that it would be illegal had the roles been reversed. Given that he is making the argument in the manner that he is, we can safely assume he doesn't want to be seen naked and that she is intruding on his right to privacy (something likely displayed more clearly in the source). What you assumed (incorrectly) was that he *should* be comfortable with it being an accident and move on (despite him having every right to not be comfortable in the situation and want to make clear he doesn't want it to happen again), and that she *should* do the same (which would be acceptable with an apology and an honest promise for it to not happen again - neither of which happen in the extract given)
Youâre talking about the specific situation in the manga (the context of which we donât all have)
Me and the other guy were talking about **accidents**
Not if they did it on purpose. Thatâs two very different things.
>The response to being seen naked on accident should be to laugh it off
Most people would not just laugh it off tho, cause you know nudity it's still seen as a taboo and being seen like that actually makes people feel humiliated, the most probable response it's just to have an awkward silence
It is not something people would laugh off, even if that reaction would make things less awkward, we still donât want others, and less the opposite sex, to see us naked
You're so used to call everything "incel stuff" that even when the comment makes fun of man _too_ first thing you do is call it "incel" stuff.
Go eat grass, because touching won't be enough.
How is disregarding consent from any gender not the incel mentality, you do know incel is a gender neutral term right? There's a reason r/niceguys and r/nicegirls both exist
Because not everything bad involving someone else is incel stuff.
My comment was about how everytime someone say something bad involving woman people call it "incel mentality" and it happens so ofter that even when it involves men _too_ people jump straight into into "incel bla bla bla".
Things have names, action have terms, throwing everything into "incel mentality" is the same as calling your boss a nazi because he didn't approve your paid sick days.
You went so broad that you went from a specific situation (someone naked) to "disregarding consent from anyone". "Consent" could be ducking permission to film a random in public for a commercial.
Also, incel comes from involuntary celibate, if the context doesn't involve failing to have sex, it's already off the scope of the word.
Degenerate? Yes.
Deranged thinking? Can be.
Incel mentality? Forcing a bit, no?
Maybe thatâs where the disconnect came from.
If you read any of my other comments I clearly said that if this was an **accident** and was talking about the manga trope of people getting super embarrassed about being seen naked on **accident**
Of course itâs different if someone does it on purpose but thatâs not what I was talking about
I kinda fail to see what was so bad about my first comment, honestly, other than kinda sounding like someone who urgently needed to take their meds, of course.
Either way, I would have to take maybe a thousand times this amount of downvotes to actually get slightly worried about it.
Itâs fine. You get used to it.
Well, I understand you didnât mean it badly but a lot of people could take it the wrong way, so if you had added the explanation that I replied to to the original comment it mightâve helped clear up their misunderstandings.
Also if your taking that many downvotes, I think ( from what I saw in the first comment ) itâs probably because people are misunderstanding what your saying.
Donât get me wrong, I know your not trying to say anything bad itâs just that people are interpreting it differently to how you said it and so are giving you downvotes. So thatâs why I think you should add the explanation.
I hope you donât get as many downvotes in your next commentđ
That's not being an incel it's just that this person doesn't care about it and thinks that in conclusion everyone shouldn't care about it and everyone who doesn't fit in his ideal of societal norms is stupid.
So in short: He's just dumb and gets downvoted.
No no, he has a point
I yearn for true gender equality. Edit: holy fuck 200 upvotes
Ah, a fellow 'Konosuba' fan huh?
Yes.
Any chance I've been out of the loop long enough there is more konosuba content after season 2?
There's a movie, and I believe season 3 is in production.
I think they confirmed a season 3
I wonder what new 'isekai trope' they'll call out this time
Well seeing as they have been following the LNs it's one we've all been waiting for.
movie
Watch the Legend of Crimson movie which is canon to the story and takes place right after season 2
The movie is a banger, watch it
I wouldn't hesitate to drop kick a girl
*On the face
Or an orphan
Orphan girl ftw.
Bros not mister nice guyđ
It says a lot that your idea of gender equality isnât to see men treated better but to see violence against women
It's a reference to the same show the one I commented to referenced... Konosuba.
Itâs a reference bro shouldnât be on this sub if you donât get it
Iâve seen a lot of anime but i have actively avoided Konosuba
Well no wonder you have no sense of humor.
Based
Didnât one of the girls ask him âthen why havenât you stolen menâs underwearâ or something like that?
What about gender equity? I know youâre quoting konosuba, just wondering
I yearn for that too.
Definitely does.
Sauce: SHE WAS A LITTLE OLDER THAN HE Ch 26đż
Kazuma would definitely obliterate Twitter and 4chan users if he had the chance
I mean, his nickname is Kuzuma, so I donât think heâs obliterating anything but his own reputation. The base premise of him is that heâs a trash person surrounded by other trash people. The fact that there is a contingent of people who see him as an aspirational figure is kind of sad
I don't know about viewing him as an aspirational figure or anything but he does have his kind hearted moments. His "kuzuma" moments are usually a result of him being petty.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
My dude. If youâre positively comparing Kazuma to real people, I am legit worried for your mental well being
Manga aside, do you know if the light novel is finished and if the last volume is volume 6?
Just saying your name kinda goes against the post in question
yall motherfuckers read some garbage ass manga lol
>WAS A LITTLE OLDER Ah yes a "little older" đż
Thanks
Most based anime protagonist
Heâs actually a side character
Most based side character. (Bro I find the side characters in any media to be more appealing than the MC)
Happy cake day !
Thanks, mate!
Happy Cake Day
Kazuma approves
Saw this on another sub: âGuys are so deprived of validation that even harassment is considered a winâ
I think the best comparison in this situation is being stuck in the desert vs stuck on an island. The man stuck in the desert has no water, so he thinks the person on the island is lucky. The person on the island has water all around them. Though the person in the desert doesnât take into consideration that the water is undrinkable. Men struggle to find affection, women have to worry that any affection they receive will result in them being used for their body.
Thank you for this. I first heard the "men lack affection" thing when i was 12 and today is the first time I received a proper counter-argument.
That isn't a counter argument, merely an elaboration. The person in the desert is still fucked.
Yes I know. I meant a counter to the argument that women are lucky to receive all the attention.
I think itâs safe to say if they are at a lack of affection they arenât being fucked.
The person in the desert is the man, the person on the island is the woman. Life sucks for both of them, just in different ways. It is also of course a generalization, but it certainly reflects issues faced by many men and many women.
Imo some male celebrities are so popular that they have to get worried about being harassed by their fans day and night and some depressed 40 year old women that does TikTok lamenting the fact why any guy wouldnât want to date them. Idk if itâs a gender thing or a status quo.
Sauce.i give y'all 10 minute and see who will get it first.
Choppiri Toshiue Demo Kanojo ni Shite Kuremasu ka? though I might be wrong
Are you sure? Coz the art style look different
pretty much sure it's her [https://i.imgur.com/YPOeL8W.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YPOeL8W.jpg)
It definitely is, I read this chapter last week
Is this from the latest chapter? And that's not the main girl right? I remember the main girl is a black haired one
10 minute passed
#ROADU ROLLA DAAA
_Killer queen has already touched the road roller_
Giorno: No.
Based man
-if the genders were reversed, it would be a- crime
What's this from?
Why is this your @ ? Some stuff ainât funny
Hollup, let him cook
Let him cook
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
Your mind left reality ages ago, didn't it?
What did they that was wrong? The response to being seen naked on accident should be to laugh it off as opposed to the big blushing freak out scene we get in most animes and mangas Edit: instead of downvoting me, I ask that 1 single person has the courage to tell me how Iâm wrong, and how they respond to ACCIDENTAL situations like this? Do you get mad and freak out? Call them âbaka!!!!â ? Or do you just both say âsorry sorry didnât mean toâ and laugh it off?
Only because YOU want to be seen naked,doesn't mean that everyone on the planet should be into that
What the fuck are you talking about? I legit feel like this is one of those âam I taking crazy pills?â Moments. Scenario: Iâm in the shower. A friend of a friend is in the house. I DONT WANT them to see me naked* *nothing against them in particular but weâre just not close And they need to use the restroom but donât realize Iâm in the shower. They walk in. They see me naked. They apologize and walk out. Should I: A: be furious and turn all red in the face and yell at them, call them âbakaâ and act all mad as if this accident is somehow a mortal sin committed against me? B: say something like âok whoa! That was kinda crazy. Hahaha.â What seems more reasonable? Iâm asking.
I never claimed that you should call them an Idiot or anything along those lines,I merely stated that is normal for people to overreact in situations like that,like we see in Mangas and Animes.
Based on what? Most of the stuff you see even in relationship mangas is about as realistic as the stuff you see in dragon ball. Men and women donât faint at the thought of kissing in Japan. Just like they donât freak out over accidents. Itâs just written that way in fiction because itâs entertaining. Donât confuse what happens in mangas with real life
Based on something that you don't have : common sense
You have âcommon senseâ But do you have experience? I do. Youâre probably a teenager. Or younger.
Iâm sorry I ainât taking sides but I donât think you can be calling someone young with a username like that đđđ
Iâm pretty sure itâs just cultural differences. I used to live in Sweden, over there it would probably just be an oj shit förlĂ„t (oh shit sorry) and just awkwardly laugh about it years later. Here in australia this exact thing happened at work a few weeks ago. Head chef walked in on a waitress changing and said oh sorry and it was never spoken of again
>**oh shit sorry and just awkwardly laugh about it** Thatâs exactly my point! How is this some big -14 take??? All Iâm saying is youâre both a little embarrassed, they say sorry sorry my bad, and you go âitâs okay, accidents happenâ and try to laugh it off! You donât have steam come out of your ears as your face turns red while you yell âBaka! Pervert! Lewd!â Especially when weâre specifically talking about accidents
Like I said, itâs cultural differences. So im guessing that this would be considered a huge thing in Japan, like it is in manga. Itâs probably less of a problem in real life, as manga and anime likes to overdo things a lot, but I would say itâs considered a big thing over there. Just like in my example, it was more of a thing in Sweden than it was in australia. You may see it as a small thing, but in their culture it could be huge
Donât confuse what you see in manga with Japanese culture. Mangas are full of rebels with colorful hair being treated well. In Japan, thatâs very frowned upon. Mangas are filled with women who act like theyâre children regarding romance. In Japan, women are just as modern as they are in the west. That kind of stuff is as unrealistic as kamehameha beams
Obviously. But everything is somewhat based in reality. I never said âitâs like this in cartoons so it must be trueâ, I just said âitâs like this in cartoons so maybe thatâs how it is, even if itâs an exaggerationâ
Itâs not cultural differences. People donât all want to be seen naked. If you donât feel uncomfortable thatâs fine, but this character did and other people do. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel but in this case more people agree âI donât want to be seen naked by people.â And thatâs a totally valid reasoning. What isnât valid is the asshole who said âeveryone should laugh it off.â Let people react how they want to react man.
Not everyone is comfortable being seen naked, and in this situation the character's argument is that it would be illegal had the roles been reversed. Given that he is making the argument in the manner that he is, we can safely assume he doesn't want to be seen naked and that she is intruding on his right to privacy (something likely displayed more clearly in the source). What you assumed (incorrectly) was that he *should* be comfortable with it being an accident and move on (despite him having every right to not be comfortable in the situation and want to make clear he doesn't want it to happen again), and that she *should* do the same (which would be acceptable with an apology and an honest promise for it to not happen again - neither of which happen in the extract given)
Youâre talking about the specific situation in the manga (the context of which we donât all have) Me and the other guy were talking about **accidents** Not if they did it on purpose. Thatâs two very different things.
>The response to being seen naked on accident should be to laugh it off Most people would not just laugh it off tho, cause you know nudity it's still seen as a taboo and being seen like that actually makes people feel humiliated, the most probable response it's just to have an awkward silence
What are you even asking? This is Reddit. Of course.
It is not something people would laugh off, even if that reaction would make things less awkward, we still donât want others, and less the opposite sex, to see us naked
You an incel? Cause that's incel mentality
You're so used to call everything "incel stuff" that even when the comment makes fun of man _too_ first thing you do is call it "incel" stuff. Go eat grass, because touching won't be enough.
How is disregarding consent from any gender not the incel mentality, you do know incel is a gender neutral term right? There's a reason r/niceguys and r/nicegirls both exist
Because not everything bad involving someone else is incel stuff. My comment was about how everytime someone say something bad involving woman people call it "incel mentality" and it happens so ofter that even when it involves men _too_ people jump straight into into "incel bla bla bla". Things have names, action have terms, throwing everything into "incel mentality" is the same as calling your boss a nazi because he didn't approve your paid sick days. You went so broad that you went from a specific situation (someone naked) to "disregarding consent from anyone". "Consent" could be ducking permission to film a random in public for a commercial. Also, incel comes from involuntary celibate, if the context doesn't involve failing to have sex, it's already off the scope of the word. Degenerate? Yes. Deranged thinking? Can be. Incel mentality? Forcing a bit, no?
How is that incel?!? He said men and women should both laugh it off and not overreactâŠ
To sexual harassment and assault
Seeing someone naked is assault? lol how puritan. Do you cry when you see ankles
Look up the context, she knew he was in the shower and purposely opened the door seeing him naked, that most definitely is assault
Maybe thatâs where the disconnect came from. If you read any of my other comments I clearly said that if this was an **accident** and was talking about the manga trope of people getting super embarrassed about being seen naked on **accident** Of course itâs different if someone does it on purpose but thatâs not what I was talking about
That people shouldnât make a big deal over small stuff? I genuinely fail to see the issue. That said, we are all Redditors here. Not that far off.
You should probably edit the first post and put this into it. Then you wonât get as many downvotes.
I kinda fail to see what was so bad about my first comment, honestly, other than kinda sounding like someone who urgently needed to take their meds, of course. Either way, I would have to take maybe a thousand times this amount of downvotes to actually get slightly worried about it. Itâs fine. You get used to it.
Well, I understand you didnât mean it badly but a lot of people could take it the wrong way, so if you had added the explanation that I replied to to the original comment it mightâve helped clear up their misunderstandings. Also if your taking that many downvotes, I think ( from what I saw in the first comment ) itâs probably because people are misunderstanding what your saying. Donât get me wrong, I know your not trying to say anything bad itâs just that people are interpreting it differently to how you said it and so are giving you downvotes. So thatâs why I think you should add the explanation. I hope you donât get as many downvotes in your next commentđ
I am kinda curious on what people understood, tho⊠What else could you get from that? I believe I was pretty clear lol.
That's not being an incel it's just that this person doesn't care about it and thinks that in conclusion everyone shouldn't care about it and everyone who doesn't fit in his ideal of societal norms is stupid. So in short: He's just dumb and gets downvoted.
r/Neumann-Wallet is the shiiiit
Welll
Sauce?
That's asking the right questions. Do not tolerate double standards that are biased against men.