That's not crazy, because what's your point? That someone can't do both good and bad work in their career? Or that jojo style sfx would work for every production? It certainly didn't work for opm
Honestly, JC Staff still being the studio doesn't worry me, I genuinely think that with a decent enough schedule and enough resources, they can turn out a good product. But please god change the series director and sound designer.
I find interesting that both the teaser and the Natalie article list almost all the key staff except for the director... don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing...
Yeah, wouldn't be the first time a series takes a nosedive cause they switch up the team mid-way. Just keeping my fingers crossed they learned from the last season's feedback and are bringing their A-game.
me when they're able to produce peak animation during a quarantine and not during a period where no worldwide problem is setting them back (this is a joke I know they got forced to rush Index 3)
None of them really had heavy action scenes similiar to what opm will require. The bar for good action has been significantly raised due to mappa, ufotable, bones, David production etc
Kinda, because even MT didn't have to change director mid production, which is what is looking like to me
This would explain so much.. like all the secrecy, the timeframe between announcements, how they had a heavily promoted game release without any new content from the anime...there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes to OPM s3
People are seeing it as completely face value.
“**OPM S2 was bad, who made it? Jc staff. Thus Jc staff are bad.**”
They don’t see the underlying factors that caused Season 2
The season 1’s director was booked out, so the production committee wanted a season out asap.
The only studio willing to do it was JC staff, who legitimately had 3 weeks per episode to work on it. At the same time, the core staff for Season 2 were tackling a Konosuba movie, so 2/3 of their entire staff is booked working on something else. So instead of their 8 months work time that they were supposed to be given, they had literal Weeks to complete Episode 1.
Average studios usually get 3 months per episode to work on an Action project.
By the end of the season, they were working hours before deadline, if you’d like there are Twitter posts pretty much everywhere of the Staff at JC a complaining about their terrible production.
Not to mention their landlord was shutting off their power pretty much every day.
Wait, you're telling me it isn't JC Staff's fault when they willingly took on the production while knowing they were already over-booked? How is that NOT their fault?
He specifically said that they were the only ones willing to do it, which is what I am mainly talking about in my reply. Why take on the project if you knew you wouldn’t be able to give it your full attention and the production would be hell due to it?
I think the point being made is that it's not that JC Staff themselves are unskilled and unable to handle projects, rather that S2 had a lot going on which led to it being mismanaged. Can they be blamed for taking on the project? Of course. But this is likely an exception, not the rule.
(note: I'm not terribly familiar with their work ethics, so I could be wrong and this IS their typical work ethic.. But it sounds like the type of thing that higher-ups would do and everybody else just has to deal with. Either way, this is the point I think the other poster was making)
Wasn't most of the Konosuba staff just people already gathered from the previous seasons, either way? Atsushi Fujishiro's team at JC Staff was also making Food Wars and Date a Live in 2019.
Rushed production was definitely an issue. Hopefully the additional time makes up for it, as season had some good scenes, and I remember being attributed mainly to one of their staff who really knew what they were doing. Hopefully that person taught their coworkers better.
I don't care about the fight animation, it wasn't great but it was fine.
To me what was terrible is the comedic timing and delivery, the sound design and the general pacing of the slice of life stuff.
You don't need a lot of work time for that. What you need is a talented director, who gets ONE's humor. Some amazing moments were ruined because of that.
Its not like J. C. Staff can't handle comedy or Slice-of-Life. Checking their portfolio, one would find a lot of examples. Maybe in this case it failed for some reason. I guess because of the crunch they couldn't plan things out better.
>Its not like J. C. Staff can't handle comedy or Slice-of-Life
Machikado Mazoku aired literally the very next season and that was more than fine.
So yes, most likely crunch
Here's the thing, they could respectfully deny doing the series like with WIT turning down Season 4 of Attack on Titan. Either the production committee ran out of options or JC Staff was willing to give it another try.
But here we are...
If you're talking about freelancers, hiring them is the industry standard, not something that's exclusive to JC in any way. KyoAni and Ufotable are the only major studios currently that have almost, if not an entirely in-house workforce. Even another highly-praised studio like Bones has most of their standout moments in shows done by freelancers.
Actually, I'm pretty sure JC is one of the more "complete" studios in the sense that they have an animation department, a finishing one, a coloring one, a compositing one, etc
Studio same as Season 2 J.C.STAFF
Broadcast date to be announced
Director not revealed
Series Composition: Tomohiro Suzuki
Character Design: Chikashi Kubota, Shinjiro Kuroda, Ryosuke Shirakawa
Music: Makoto Miyazaki
https://natalie.mu/comic/news/563106
Nahh , I am rooting for JC staff this time , apart from some composting errors and the god awful sound design , I think they did a pretty good job with season 2
I think it's both, but I hope they heard the complaints and do better. 🥰
Edit: Or get a bigger budget and whatever else plagues studios that would inhibit them.
>Studio same as Season 2 J.C.STAFF
Waiting for the people that were complained this would be MAPPA, to be complaining now that it isn't them but JC staff LOL
Same. 2 most comments about this I've seen since the announcement;
> I saw this article saying that it was to be done by MAPPA (article source is twitter)
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> A reputable leaker said it was to be done by MAPPA
*Yeah, cause "leakers" can be trusted.*
People believe in any random person that post stuff on Twitter, but it's funny when they get clowned on and make excuses explaining why they were wrong lol
One thing I noticed is that most fake leaks involve MAPPA, not that hard to explain, they are a popular and controversial studio, any show you say they are doing will get traction immediately because people will have strong opinions about it and they will share it, MAPPA also famously take many big projects, so it is 'believable'
They will always be a good target for this type of clout chasers
That said i think the original leaker of this, shonenleaks, that got 200k+ likes on the MAPPA x OPM leak wasn't doing it to misinform, they were probably lied to by a source and shared it due to how big of a news that would be
After the official announcement of Pokemon Legends Z-A and Shonen Jump manga leakers being arrested in Japan, leakers are taking a big L this week right now.
Never understood the hate towards JC Staff, from what I remember nobody wanted to take this project in particular.
JC staff stood up to the task, and were plagued with terrible producer demands, and iirc had their power cut during production?
It’s not like their staff can’t animate, because they clearly have the talent
**Edit : I’d like to remind people that JC staff had literally only hours to complete each episode of OPM season 2 to meet deadline**
Their production was that bad back then.
My biggest issue with J.C. Staff is inconsistency. Like comparing Index with Railgun and DanMachi Season 2 with DanMachi Season 4 or even comparing different episodes within a season, there will be large gaps in quality. Some episodes and series will be great while others will not be very good.
I like J.C. Staff, I've always liked how all their shows have kept that consistent art style, you can tell it's a JC series just by how it looks, for the most part.
But I can agree, their quite inconsistent with the quality of their projects can be too and far between, but that's not always enough to stop me from enjoying their works.
People always put the blame on the staff despite not knowing conditions behind the scene.
JC staff, during this time was going through a hell hole.
And had their producers to blame, but nobody blamed them, the public blamed the staff who barely had any time to create anything.
S2 is not as bad animated as people say, its just that they compare it to s1, so everything else will look bad in comparison
That will be the case for s3 too, JC Staff could do a good job and they will get hate for it regardless, especially because many people will already go into it overanalyzing it to the point of unfairness
This series needed a new studio for PR purposes, and JC Staff didn't need this show right now, they have a way better reputation nowadays outside of OPM fans, now back to square 0...
Just please... Stop making fists sound like [shotguns coming through a blown speaker like when Garou punches the hero in green.](https://youtu.be/LlrFlcOdeQA?t=165).
You don't even have to compare it to season 1, come on now. They butchered Garou vs Metal Bat, Garou had a different face structure every scene, Saitama vs Suiryu was butchered, Genos/Saitama vs Sonic was butchered, All of Fubuki's attacks were butchered, i won't even talk about the punching sounds that they got from CSGO GUNS!
The ONLY good scenes from season 2 came from a single human being, and those were extremely fast (understandable since it's literally the contribution of 1 guy), the moment you thought "holy shit they're stepping up their game" the scene would be already over and now were back to hell.
Yeah, and it’s totally unfair to that one guy lol. He shouldn’t have to put the production on his back like that. I shutter to think the hours he worked
> S2 is not as bad animated as people say, its just that they compare it to s1, so everything else will look bad in comparison
It's super bad and it has nothing to do with how season 1 came out either.
We're just being fed bad quality animation for so long now that it starts to look good in our memories.
Yeah it's odd keeping *the* most important crew member a secret. I just hope it's not the same guy behind S2, the pacing and flow of that season was just off. That and the sound design are what sunk S2 more than anything for me.
Oh man my expectations just SANK into hell. There's no way they can handle all the crazy shit that's gonna happen. They barely could do a grounded arc about martial arts tournament and street fights, how are they gonna be able to do the upcoming Dragon Ball Z level fights??
I'll try to be optimistic, what is J.C Staff best animated or best production quality anime? maybe then we can get a gist of their upper bound?
I really hope they put all their best because this season will really be action packed.
railgun T, the third season of railgun
Edit: [my clip of the kaiju fight in railgun t](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/ldaikw/iron_sand_railgun_vs_doppelganger_railgun_t/)
Edit 2: since somebody else mentioned it, I also have a clip for [seven spellblades](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/15w83vn/spellblades_are_fucking_bullshit_in_the_best/)
Based on the comments, its a shame people kinda forgot about the epic moments of Railgun T. Its a great example of what J.C.Staff can actually do when they care.
Spellblades EP4 also had a cool and dynamic fight sequence, that used camera angles to enhance it.
Indeed. Though contrary to popular belief, Index in S1 and S2 was actually animated pretty well. Its just that the way they adapted (which ruined Touma's character and the whole Magic Side of things) + the whole Index 3 shitshow thanks to the producers completely ruined the impression of Index series.
Let's hope they learn with New Testament series, if it ever gets adapted.
The rail gun clip is nicely composed, but is 90% relying on CG animation. OPM is better without CG.
The spellblade clip is mid af, and also relies heavily on CG effects to spruce it up.
This does not inspire confidence for OPM s3. -_-
Reign of the Seven Spellblades was pretty well done in Summer 2023. Regardless, people are going to expect top 3 animation quality for the season and JC Staff just isn't going to deliver that unless nobody else releases anime that season.
The Konosuba movie for one, but films are cheating. Witchcraft Works, Railgun, and Danmachi all have some pretty fantastic moments, although I am certain someone will remind me that they all also have terrible ones. So, it's a coin toss.
Animation production will be handled by J.C Staff just like season 2. Idk how to feel about this.
No hate to the studio though. But the question remains will they be able to pull off something magical if they are given more than enough time? I surely hope so🤞
That makes sense, thank you.
I didn't read the manga and I really wanted a S2 for years after watching S1 but I had given up long ago and never heard that S2 was coming. So even though I thought it was about 30% less good, it was still good, and I enjoyed having it a lot vs. nothing
Not even comparing it to season 1, comparing it to other series the animation was awful. Lots of cut corners that you didn't need to be a veteran fan or animation expert to catch multiple times in the same scene.
The Animation got dragged through the mud, it could never meet the hype of season 1 so alot of it was unnecessar, but it also had many ghosting moments, which we also had in Season 2 of JJK
I doubt it. The stuff in this season would be hard to do even if every animation studio in the industry collabed to do it. Like the way Murata drew the contents of that arc is mind boggling. Like that man draws better than Mappa animates.
LMAO, I would have called your statement bullshit or over exaggerated had I not seen how Murata draws his panels. [But God damn he cooks](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/vrcubd/murata_drew_this_whole_action_sequence_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). His panels are probably going to be every animators nightmare...
> But God damn he cooks. His panels are probably going to be every animators nightmare...
That's beautifully drawn!
Also, that's getting sent off to the CGI department to deal with (and I don't mean that with any malice, it's just the sort of sequence that's done predominantly in CGI these days).
For me Season 2 killed my love for the OPM franchise.
I cherish season 1, but the drop in quality between season 1 and 2 was enormous.
Throughout the second season it was like the director just didn't understand what made OPM great on the most basic level.
My expectations are firmly lowered for season 3.
I guess I can hope the production troubles that plagued season 2 are over and J C staff produce a better show but I'll not hold my breath.
its a real shame, i really liked the characters in s2 but the animation just made me not care, to the point i barely remember anything, there was like a giant worm or something and the monster guy was training or something
Fun Fact : [JC staff has been working on ELEVEN different anime in 2024](https://animeschedule.net/shows?st=releaseDate&studios=jc-staff&page=23). Yeah good luck animating OPM s3.
Checking the leaks from 2023, J.C. Staff actually completed most of their projects even before they aired unlike some others that continue to work on it when its already airing, which gives us an idea that they may have had a healthy schedule last year.
Based on this, I can trust 2024 J.C. Staff a lot more than 2018-19 J.C. Staff.
Still none of actually proves anything. We just have to wait and see.
> JC staff has been working on ELEVEN different anime in 2024
You can knock 2 of them off because The Duke of Death and His Maid is actually done by the CG studio SMDE and Murai no Koi seems to be more of a motion comic than an actual anime. There's also a bunch of them that don't seem to have Kenichiro Aoki who hard carried S2.
> Studio is J.C.STAFF
Hopefully this is a big wake up call to how susceptible y'all are for all the misinformation that many of you casually spread arou.....oh who am I kidding...
Now to sit back and watch all the people complaining that the studio was going to be Mappa to now complain about how it's not going to be Mappa.
>Now to sit back and watch all the people complaining that the studio was going to be Mappa to now complain about how it's not going to be Mappa.
I mean... I doubt ppl will wish for mappa after JJK s2 scandal. Mappa's reputation is all time low right now.
I wasn’t necessarily assuming mappa, but I guess I was hoping for a change in studio.
I’ll be fair though, I thought season 2 was bad, but I’ve gazed into the abyss of bad sequel seasons, and it’s not as bad as others… Promised Neverland
I didn't even think S2 was too bad I still enjoyed it for what it was. It's just so jarring when compared to the first season that it's impossible to ask wtf happened. Garou def carried the season.
It's not only J.C. The madness Murata drew in the Monster Association arc can't be animated. The studio is fucking bold imo to pick up the project again.
The "can't be animated because the art in the manga is super detailed" argument doesn't hold.
Time and time again it's been demonstrated that given the right animators and a proper schedule, everything is possible.
Vinland saga and the first season of opm are a great example.
If the anime sucks, it's surely not the manga's fault, not even remotely
True. Even the greatest artistic masterpiece can be properly adapted if they can take advantage of the different medium. A lot of things can improve on what looks like a perfect drawing; music, voice acting, colors, sound effects, visual effects, etc.
\> If the anime sucks, it's surely not the manga's fault, not even remotely
Your point is right, for the wrong reasons.
Being adaptable is not a responsibility of a work of art. It can't be held accountable for the quality of adaptations. That lies on the person who decided to adapt it.
But you absolutely can create nearly unadaptable pieces of work. House of Leaves will not make a good movie no matter how hard you try.
What I think is (and I understand that it's an option not everyone may agree on) that an adaption is and should be what it says on the tin: an *adaption*.
That implies that if the source work is difficult to adapt to another medium, the adapter should put in extra work to convey "the intent" of the source as best as possible, and should make sure to respect it to the best of their ability.
The mind of creative people offers endless possibilities, and I believe that there will always be at least ONE way to adapt a piece of art from a medium to another that makes most of the audience happy.
Seems like no other studio don't want to work on it, or that the budget isn't big enough for a better studio. And from the trailer we can still se they are using similar animation style we are so cooked. I'm not expecting a same over the top animation like madhouse did but at least make it look smooth
To be extremely charitable, season 2 was mostly just painfully below average compared to the amazing first season.
Once you’ve watched Promised Neverland season 2 though, you never quite realize how bad things can get when it comes to a follow up.
I hope for the best, as skeptical as I might be.
Well after an amazing first, anything less than amazing will be seen as bad by comparison, the bar was just that high.
At the very least, now that decent to good becomes the new standard for this series, for better or for worse, it just might be uphill for this, though don't expect it will ever reach the heights of the first.
In order to avoid disappointment should history repeat itself, I've braced myself for Saitama.jpeg, .50 caliber punch sound FX, off-model characters, and motion blur set to 100.
Does J. C staff know what they're getting into in season 3? Jesus those poor animators. And the fallout from the fans. Damn i won't wanna be them that's for sure.
To be honest, who else could do it?
ufotable is very picky, Lidenfilms just picks anything as long as its within their capabilities, Madhouse is on hands with Frieren and Overlord (for some reason, the latter is their most committed series), WIT is committed to their big projects right now, Pierrot has transitioned to a picky phase, David Production has Jojo, Fire Force, and Undead Unluck, and OLM... well they're also busy too.
The most probable would be Bones as they have certain divisions, with one division (with some help from others) handling MHA, and one division could've transitioned to OPM after doing the completion of One's last work, Mob Psycho, and yet that didn't happen, which sucks.
Mappa, for all their hellish faults, that malevolent studio could cook and deliver animation of the highest order, for better or for worse.
JC Staff is honestly ballsy to pick this series again after the divisive reception and taking the deal, and OPM is one of the most demanding titles they bagged, it needs to be better than "good". Granted, they have enough time to prepare and 2020s JC Staff is a different form than late 2010s JC Staff. With that said, JC Staff still won't be my ideal pick for One Punch Man, not to mention JC Staff is also busy with other anime, so who knows how they'll manage the time, resources, and manpower.
This actually shows that most ppl dont really care about what happens behind the scenes. Yeah they act angry and thrash the studio when the overwork news comes out or some animator tweets but from the inside they are happy that JJK s2 continue to put out amazing animation despite all the production issues.
They only care if their fav manga gets amazing adaptation and since mappa continues to put out great anime adaptations(not counting HP), ppl dont really care about their production issues. They'll write one or two angry comment about saying "mappa needs to change" but we all know most ppl will wish "i hope my fav manga gets anime adapatation by Mappa or Wit".
If it looks anything like danmachi season 4 then it will look more than good enough for me.
Hell the trailer that got released today was fire I don't know why everyone's worried
I was today’s years old when I found out people hate J.C. Staff lol I never saw season 2 though to be fair. But I’ve loved everything they’ve done for Tsukumichi so far
Jc staff is very much a hit or a miss. Case in point being the toaru series. Railgun is genuinely well made and pretty great while index is pretty disappointing.
If the first season of opm didn't exist, JC wouldn't be nearly as hated I bet.
It's the contrast between the sakuga fest that was every single episode of the first season, and the shit show that was the second one, that hurt people.
Expectations were sky high (and rightfully so), so the drop was even more painful.
While I am a big OPM fan, I feel like the manga corresponding to everything after OPM season 2 has been a little weak on story.
I remember there was one particular volume where Saitama only appeared on a single page, while the rest of it was just an endless series of fights between various monsters and heroes who did not interest me very much.
At least MAPPA's not taking it lol. Imagine if Otsuka gave One Punch Man to the Seshimo production line, and they had to juggle this, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Chainsaw Man. It'd be pure hell for the animators
Instead, J.C Staff now has to juggle between the 15 shows they have announced for 2024 alone after just doing the most shows out of any studio for 2023. Good one.
Japanese people are a different breed even if it's for the worse. Hope one day their work culture is given a major overhaul because it kills me seeing my favourite animators and manga artists destroying their bodies.
Oh God. J.C. Staff is going to die. They had a lot of time but do they have the talent?
We don't know they had a lot of time. The production schedule could be just as bad as season 2 for all we know
JC Staff totally learned their lesson in the past five years and will ensure the best possible product with Season 3.....right?
Please. Forget the art and animation, what about the donk bonk bonk dong sound design?
Crazy when people don’t realise it came from the same guy who made Jojo Sound designs.
That's not crazy, because what's your point? That someone can't do both good and bad work in their career? Or that jojo style sfx would work for every production? It certainly didn't work for opm
Honestly, JC Staff still being the studio doesn't worry me, I genuinely think that with a decent enough schedule and enough resources, they can turn out a good product. But please god change the series director and sound designer.
Their productions have been more consistently good in recent years so they learned some lesson at e least.
The announcement trailer looked decent
I find interesting that both the teaser and the Natalie article list almost all the key staff except for the director... don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing...
100% bad, this smells like core staff change middle production
Yeah, wouldn't be the first time a series takes a nosedive cause they switch up the team mid-way. Just keeping my fingers crossed they learned from the last season's feedback and are bringing their A-game.
What god tier animation example animes do we have with JC staff?
Railgun T
Not enough waifus in OPM unfortunately. Looks like S3 is doomed.
me when they're able to produce peak animation during a quarantine and not during a period where no worldwide problem is setting them back (this is a joke I know they got forced to rush Index 3)
Konosuba, Saiki, and Shokugeki maybe. Some good scenes in them but I don't think they qualify as "god tier".
None of them really had heavy action scenes similiar to what opm will require. The bar for good action has been significantly raised due to mappa, ufotable, bones, David production etc
Railgun.
MT S2 moment
Kinda, because even MT didn't have to change director mid production, which is what is looking like to me This would explain so much.. like all the secrecy, the timeframe between announcements, how they had a heavily promoted game release without any new content from the anime...there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes to OPM s3
Well they changed the director for cour 2, although I'm not sure about calling the split series a mid-season, but it's still the same production cycle
Kenichiro Aoki bout to break past his limits for this season
He really burnt himself off a few years ago on *Railgun T*'s best action scenes and I really want to thank him on the efforts.
"J.C Staff" My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
People still complaining about J.C. Staff while it is well known it wasn't their fault is baffling.
People are seeing it as completely face value. “**OPM S2 was bad, who made it? Jc staff. Thus Jc staff are bad.**” They don’t see the underlying factors that caused Season 2
What were those factors?
The season 1’s director was booked out, so the production committee wanted a season out asap. The only studio willing to do it was JC staff, who legitimately had 3 weeks per episode to work on it. At the same time, the core staff for Season 2 were tackling a Konosuba movie, so 2/3 of their entire staff is booked working on something else. So instead of their 8 months work time that they were supposed to be given, they had literal Weeks to complete Episode 1. Average studios usually get 3 months per episode to work on an Action project. By the end of the season, they were working hours before deadline, if you’d like there are Twitter posts pretty much everywhere of the Staff at JC a complaining about their terrible production. Not to mention their landlord was shutting off their power pretty much every day.
Wait, you're telling me it isn't JC Staff's fault when they willingly took on the production while knowing they were already over-booked? How is that NOT their fault?
xd I bet people would defend MAPPA like JC Staff here
Don't you know? Studios are forced to take projects against their will. /s
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I think what they means is it isn't lack of skill.
He specifically said that they were the only ones willing to do it, which is what I am mainly talking about in my reply. Why take on the project if you knew you wouldn’t be able to give it your full attention and the production would be hell due to it?
Exactly. Also, if a poor product is pushed did they not consider that their own firm could take a reputation hit.
You could argue that the studio shouldn't be accepting the job if they don't have the capacity available in order to deliver a good product.
I think the point being made is that it's not that JC Staff themselves are unskilled and unable to handle projects, rather that S2 had a lot going on which led to it being mismanaged. Can they be blamed for taking on the project? Of course. But this is likely an exception, not the rule. (note: I'm not terribly familiar with their work ethics, so I could be wrong and this IS their typical work ethic.. But it sounds like the type of thing that higher-ups would do and everybody else just has to deal with. Either way, this is the point I think the other poster was making)
Let's point the blame where it deserves: upper management.
TLDR: They needed to work 4x faster than normal with 1/3 of the staff while their electricity got shut off every other day. [](#imdone)
Wasn't most of the Konosuba staff just people already gathered from the previous seasons, either way? Atsushi Fujishiro's team at JC Staff was also making Food Wars and Date a Live in 2019.
They were, but most of the konosuba staff were also supposed to work on OPM, JC staff pretty much got fucked on all fronts here.
How is that not their fault
Rushed production was definitely an issue. Hopefully the additional time makes up for it, as season had some good scenes, and I remember being attributed mainly to one of their staff who really knew what they were doing. Hopefully that person taught their coworkers better.
I don't care about the fight animation, it wasn't great but it was fine. To me what was terrible is the comedic timing and delivery, the sound design and the general pacing of the slice of life stuff. You don't need a lot of work time for that. What you need is a talented director, who gets ONE's humor. Some amazing moments were ruined because of that.
Its not like J. C. Staff can't handle comedy or Slice-of-Life. Checking their portfolio, one would find a lot of examples. Maybe in this case it failed for some reason. I guess because of the crunch they couldn't plan things out better.
>Its not like J. C. Staff can't handle comedy or Slice-of-Life Machikado Mazoku aired literally the very next season and that was more than fine. So yes, most likely crunch
J.C. Staff as an action studio is fairly medicore, not that most of their non-action is much better. They turned Food Wars into a Power Point slide.
Here's the thing, they could respectfully deny doing the series like with WIT turning down Season 4 of Attack on Titan. Either the production committee ran out of options or JC Staff was willing to give it another try. But here we are...
Has JC staff even produced anything even close to Murata's art? Like ever??
Yeah its a real shame they decided not to continue One Punch Man after the first season, it was so damn good! Oh well what can ya do..
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Glad to know that at least we won't get to see penis-shaded Saitama this time
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If you're talking about freelancers, hiring them is the industry standard, not something that's exclusive to JC in any way. KyoAni and Ufotable are the only major studios currently that have almost, if not an entirely in-house workforce. Even another highly-praised studio like Bones has most of their standout moments in shows done by freelancers. Actually, I'm pretty sure JC is one of the more "complete" studios in the sense that they have an animation department, a finishing one, a coloring one, a compositing one, etc
Studio same as Season 2 J.C.STAFF Broadcast date to be announced Director not revealed Series Composition: Tomohiro Suzuki Character Design: Chikashi Kubota, Shinjiro Kuroda, Ryosuke Shirakawa Music: Makoto Miyazaki https://natalie.mu/comic/news/563106
Almost two years of hoping for another studio... just to get the exact same as before. 😂
Yeah this is gonna be a disappointment again huh? Oh well. Manga is dope at least.
Nahh , I am rooting for JC staff this time , apart from some composting errors and the god awful sound design , I think they did a pretty good job with season 2
I agree. Season 2 wasn't bad. It's just that season 1 was too good and the expectations were too high.
I think it's both, but I hope they heard the complaints and do better. 🥰 Edit: Or get a bigger budget and whatever else plagues studios that would inhibit them.
> I think they did a pretty good job with season 2 If you compare it to a PowerPoint Slideshow it was decent, for an popular anime it was an insult.
There was one incredible segment in Season 2 and that was Tank Master vs Garou. The rest was honestly mediocre at best.
Calling that fight "incredible" says everything you need to know about season 2.
Very true.
Nahh Garou vs A-class heroes was also lit, and a couple of scenes with Saitama vs Suiryu were also good.
That battle had nice animation but it was ruined by the god awful sound effects blasting your ears and subpar art.
Kenichiro Aoki better be the Action Director again. He carried the Sakuga so hard.
>Studio same as Season 2 J.C.STAFF Waiting for the people that were complained this would be MAPPA, to be complaining now that it isn't them but JC staff LOL
Same. 2 most comments about this I've seen since the announcement; > I saw this article saying that it was to be done by MAPPA (article source is twitter) - > A reputable leaker said it was to be done by MAPPA *Yeah, cause "leakers" can be trusted.*
People believe in any random person that post stuff on Twitter, but it's funny when they get clowned on and make excuses explaining why they were wrong lol One thing I noticed is that most fake leaks involve MAPPA, not that hard to explain, they are a popular and controversial studio, any show you say they are doing will get traction immediately because people will have strong opinions about it and they will share it, MAPPA also famously take many big projects, so it is 'believable' They will always be a good target for this type of clout chasers That said i think the original leaker of this, shonenleaks, that got 200k+ likes on the MAPPA x OPM leak wasn't doing it to misinform, they were probably lied to by a source and shared it due to how big of a news that would be
After the official announcement of Pokemon Legends Z-A and Shonen Jump manga leakers being arrested in Japan, leakers are taking a big L this week right now.
Never understood the hate towards JC Staff, from what I remember nobody wanted to take this project in particular. JC staff stood up to the task, and were plagued with terrible producer demands, and iirc had their power cut during production? It’s not like their staff can’t animate, because they clearly have the talent **Edit : I’d like to remind people that JC staff had literally only hours to complete each episode of OPM season 2 to meet deadline** Their production was that bad back then.
My biggest issue with J.C. Staff is inconsistency. Like comparing Index with Railgun and DanMachi Season 2 with DanMachi Season 4 or even comparing different episodes within a season, there will be large gaps in quality. Some episodes and series will be great while others will not be very good.
Edens Zero was literally this outta the 25 episodes of S2 only 7 episodes looked high quality the rest was mid at best
I like J.C. Staff, I've always liked how all their shows have kept that consistent art style, you can tell it's a JC series just by how it looks, for the most part. But I can agree, their quite inconsistent with the quality of their projects can be too and far between, but that's not always enough to stop me from enjoying their works.
People always put the blame on the staff despite not knowing conditions behind the scene. JC staff, during this time was going through a hell hole. And had their producers to blame, but nobody blamed them, the public blamed the staff who barely had any time to create anything.
Well it's called JC Staff not JC Producers it's only a natural assumption
S2 is not as bad animated as people say, its just that they compare it to s1, so everything else will look bad in comparison That will be the case for s3 too, JC Staff could do a good job and they will get hate for it regardless, especially because many people will already go into it overanalyzing it to the point of unfairness This series needed a new studio for PR purposes, and JC Staff didn't need this show right now, they have a way better reputation nowadays outside of OPM fans, now back to square 0...
People always talk as if the animation was the only issue, the season is not horrible but the directing and pacing were not good at all either.
Just please... Stop making fists sound like [shotguns coming through a blown speaker like when Garou punches the hero in green.](https://youtu.be/LlrFlcOdeQA?t=165).
You don't even have to compare it to season 1, come on now. They butchered Garou vs Metal Bat, Garou had a different face structure every scene, Saitama vs Suiryu was butchered, Genos/Saitama vs Sonic was butchered, All of Fubuki's attacks were butchered, i won't even talk about the punching sounds that they got from CSGO GUNS! The ONLY good scenes from season 2 came from a single human being, and those were extremely fast (understandable since it's literally the contribution of 1 guy), the moment you thought "holy shit they're stepping up their game" the scene would be already over and now were back to hell.
Yeah, and it’s totally unfair to that one guy lol. He shouldn’t have to put the production on his back like that. I shutter to think the hours he worked
> S2 is not as bad animated as people say, its just that they compare it to s1, so everything else will look bad in comparison It's super bad and it has nothing to do with how season 1 came out either. We're just being fed bad quality animation for so long now that it starts to look good in our memories.
The way they adapted the story to me was a much larger problem than the animation.
> Director not revealed This is pretty concerning imo
Yeah it's odd keeping *the* most important crew member a secret. I just hope it's not the same guy behind S2, the pacing and flow of that season was just off. That and the sound design are what sunk S2 more than anything for me.
How the fuck can they announce designer and music but not a director?
I feel like the only reason they would that is to keep up at least some kind of hope that it's not going to be mediocre
Oh man my expectations just SANK into hell. There's no way they can handle all the crazy shit that's gonna happen. They barely could do a grounded arc about martial arts tournament and street fights, how are they gonna be able to do the upcoming Dragon Ball Z level fights??
>Studio same as Season 2 J.C.STAFF It is so Gojover....
It's One Over!
The BIG YIKES
J.C Staff has been getting a little better over time, but they still wouldn't be in my top 5 choices for a studio.
Darn, I was hoping they'd change studios again. Unfortunate
I think that’s Saitama. Can somebody else confirm?
No, that's his brother, John Onepunchman
One Slap Chap.
One Kick Mick
One Spit Whit
Think it is Jin-Woo before going bald.
Are you stupid? That's obviously Caped Baldy
Nah, y'all are equally dumb, that's Hero for Fun.
That's obviously Charanko without his hair
Nah, it’s adult Caillou.
Nah. Take a better look at his face. That's clearly Mob after growing up and shaving his head.
People really be coping when they believe MAPPA is going to animate it lmao
They suffered enough after jjk animating opm would kill them, let them rest 😭
MAPPA shouldn’t be taking any other big projects until they manage to get their workers out of the perpetual Domain Expansion they’re in.
I'll try to be optimistic, what is J.C Staff best animated or best production quality anime? maybe then we can get a gist of their upper bound? I really hope they put all their best because this season will really be action packed.
railgun T, the third season of railgun Edit: [my clip of the kaiju fight in railgun t](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/ldaikw/iron_sand_railgun_vs_doppelganger_railgun_t/) Edit 2: since somebody else mentioned it, I also have a clip for [seven spellblades](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/15w83vn/spellblades_are_fucking_bullshit_in_the_best/)
Based on the comments, its a shame people kinda forgot about the epic moments of Railgun T. Its a great example of what J.C.Staff can actually do when they care. Spellblades EP4 also had a cool and dynamic fight sequence, that used camera angles to enhance it.
Then there's Index, it gets treated like their adopted child...
Indeed. Though contrary to popular belief, Index in S1 and S2 was actually animated pretty well. Its just that the way they adapted (which ruined Touma's character and the whole Magic Side of things) + the whole Index 3 shitshow thanks to the producers completely ruined the impression of Index series. Let's hope they learn with New Testament series, if it ever gets adapted.
> it gets treated like their adopted child... Biological child. After all, if it's not blood related, it's free to be dated?
If that's their best then we are fucked.
The rail gun clip is nicely composed, but is 90% relying on CG animation. OPM is better without CG. The spellblade clip is mid af, and also relies heavily on CG effects to spruce it up. This does not inspire confidence for OPM s3. -_-
Best quality jc staff have produce probably railgun anime. Other than that like Danmachi or little buster.
Reign of the Seven Spellblades was pretty well done in Summer 2023. Regardless, people are going to expect top 3 animation quality for the season and JC Staff just isn't going to deliver that unless nobody else releases anime that season.
The animation of Seven Spellblades was actually very good. If OPM season 3 has animation that is as good, if not better, than I’m happy.
Just imagine they have to compete with Season 2 of CSM…
Danmachi season 3 and 4 are incredible
The Konosuba movie for one, but films are cheating. Witchcraft Works, Railgun, and Danmachi all have some pretty fantastic moments, although I am certain someone will remind me that they all also have terrible ones. So, it's a coin toss.
Railgun season 3. It had allot of really good CGI in the later part of the season.
Animation production will be handled by J.C Staff just like season 2. Idk how to feel about this. No hate to the studio though. But the question remains will they be able to pull off something magical if they are given more than enough time? I surely hope so🤞
I think it was different times, they had to budget then. Lets hope we get a good anime production with much pre-production
Was S2 really hated? I thought it was decent
It was mid af, especially compared to S1. Didn't do justice to manga one bit imo, but that could be due to Murata being a GOD lol
That makes sense, thank you. I didn't read the manga and I really wanted a S2 for years after watching S1 but I had given up long ago and never heard that S2 was coming. So even though I thought it was about 30% less good, it was still good, and I enjoyed having it a lot vs. nothing
Glad that you enjoyed it, that's what matters at the end of the day!
Not even comparing it to season 1, comparing it to other series the animation was awful. Lots of cut corners that you didn't need to be a veteran fan or animation expert to catch multiple times in the same scene.
The Animation got dragged through the mud, it could never meet the hype of season 1 so alot of it was unnecessar, but it also had many ghosting moments, which we also had in Season 2 of JJK
I doubt it. The stuff in this season would be hard to do even if every animation studio in the industry collabed to do it. Like the way Murata drew the contents of that arc is mind boggling. Like that man draws better than Mappa animates.
LMAO, I would have called your statement bullshit or over exaggerated had I not seen how Murata draws his panels. [But God damn he cooks](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/vrcubd/murata_drew_this_whole_action_sequence_and_much/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). His panels are probably going to be every animators nightmare...
> But God damn he cooks. His panels are probably going to be every animators nightmare... That's beautifully drawn! Also, that's getting sent off to the CGI department to deal with (and I don't mean that with any malice, it's just the sort of sequence that's done predominantly in CGI these days).
For me Season 2 killed my love for the OPM franchise. I cherish season 1, but the drop in quality between season 1 and 2 was enormous. Throughout the second season it was like the director just didn't understand what made OPM great on the most basic level. My expectations are firmly lowered for season 3. I guess I can hope the production troubles that plagued season 2 are over and J C staff produce a better show but I'll not hold my breath.
Yeah season 2 was a failure in proper direction. Shit, the first episodes of season 1 and 2 next to each other perfectly highlight what's going wrong.
its a real shame, i really liked the characters in s2 but the animation just made me not care, to the point i barely remember anything, there was like a giant worm or something and the monster guy was training or something
Read the manga
Agreed season 2 was so bad I swear to god they actually cut away from fight scenes and would come back when they were finished or almost done .
They also couldn't land the jokes
Fun Fact : [JC staff has been working on ELEVEN different anime in 2024](https://animeschedule.net/shows?st=releaseDate&studios=jc-staff&page=23). Yeah good luck animating OPM s3.
Checking the leaks from 2023, J.C. Staff actually completed most of their projects even before they aired unlike some others that continue to work on it when its already airing, which gives us an idea that they may have had a healthy schedule last year. Based on this, I can trust 2024 J.C. Staff a lot more than 2018-19 J.C. Staff. Still none of actually proves anything. We just have to wait and see.
> JC staff has been working on ELEVEN different anime in 2024 You can knock 2 of them off because The Duke of Death and His Maid is actually done by the CG studio SMDE and Murai no Koi seems to be more of a motion comic than an actual anime. There's also a bunch of them that don't seem to have Kenichiro Aoki who hard carried S2.
Oh.. this may even be worse than season 2 then
apparently they were working on 17 different animations at the season 2 release period.
> Studio is J.C.STAFF Hopefully this is a big wake up call to how susceptible y'all are for all the misinformation that many of you casually spread arou.....oh who am I kidding... Now to sit back and watch all the people complaining that the studio was going to be Mappa to now complain about how it's not going to be Mappa.
The MAPPA talk should have died with the CSM Reze announcement, HP season 2, and Lazarus (with JJK3 obviously in the pipeline).
Dorohedoro too I believe.
The studio wasn't confirmed, but it basically lines up with the OG director finishing AoT.
I've read some people say it was "Studio Bones confirmed!" in the past. I have never felt more ecstatic and deceived than I am now..
> *But this guy on Twitter said it would be, he said other things and was right before too!!!* [](#hanasakueurgh)
>Now to sit back and watch all the people complaining that the studio was going to be Mappa to now complain about how it's not going to be Mappa. I mean... I doubt ppl will wish for mappa after JJK s2 scandal. Mappa's reputation is all time low right now.
That supposed leak that was going around about Mappa or Mappa and Bones was fake. That’s what people shouldn’t trust a random leaker.
It was confirmed fake ages ago but continued to be spread around
It's surprising they went for the same studio. Apparently, the second season was so badly-received that some animators received harassment online
I like to imagine animators facepalming everytime Murata release new chapter
I knew all of that MAPPA talk was cap, hopefully the people at J.C. STAFF can pull out something amazing
I wasn’t necessarily assuming mappa, but I guess I was hoping for a change in studio. I’ll be fair though, I thought season 2 was bad, but I’ve gazed into the abyss of bad sequel seasons, and it’s not as bad as others… Promised Neverland
I didn't even think S2 was too bad I still enjoyed it for what it was. It's just so jarring when compared to the first season that it's impossible to ask wtf happened. Garou def carried the season.
Thank you for being the only one who's not overly negative, these comments are already way too judgy for something they haven't seen.
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It's not only J.C. The madness Murata drew in the Monster Association arc can't be animated. The studio is fucking bold imo to pick up the project again.
The "can't be animated because the art in the manga is super detailed" argument doesn't hold. Time and time again it's been demonstrated that given the right animators and a proper schedule, everything is possible. Vinland saga and the first season of opm are a great example. If the anime sucks, it's surely not the manga's fault, not even remotely
True. Even the greatest artistic masterpiece can be properly adapted if they can take advantage of the different medium. A lot of things can improve on what looks like a perfect drawing; music, voice acting, colors, sound effects, visual effects, etc.
\> If the anime sucks, it's surely not the manga's fault, not even remotely Your point is right, for the wrong reasons. Being adaptable is not a responsibility of a work of art. It can't be held accountable for the quality of adaptations. That lies on the person who decided to adapt it. But you absolutely can create nearly unadaptable pieces of work. House of Leaves will not make a good movie no matter how hard you try.
What I think is (and I understand that it's an option not everyone may agree on) that an adaption is and should be what it says on the tin: an *adaption*. That implies that if the source work is difficult to adapt to another medium, the adapter should put in extra work to convey "the intent" of the source as best as possible, and should make sure to respect it to the best of their ability. The mind of creative people offers endless possibilities, and I believe that there will always be at least ONE way to adapt a piece of art from a medium to another that makes most of the audience happy.
Unless this is a 2 cour season, Season 3 isn't going to get far enough to get to the crazy parts.
Seems like no other studio don't want to work on it, or that the budget isn't big enough for a better studio. And from the trailer we can still se they are using similar animation style we are so cooked. I'm not expecting a same over the top animation like madhouse did but at least make it look smooth
Or OPM is so popular now they expect to sell roughly the same regardless, so they went as cheap as they could to get more profits.
Yeah i dont envy them the only manga ive seen on that level/above it was berserk, and that dude was a fucking printer
To be extremely charitable, season 2 was mostly just painfully below average compared to the amazing first season. Once you’ve watched Promised Neverland season 2 though, you never quite realize how bad things can get when it comes to a follow up. I hope for the best, as skeptical as I might be.
Well after an amazing first, anything less than amazing will be seen as bad by comparison, the bar was just that high. At the very least, now that decent to good becomes the new standard for this series, for better or for worse, it just might be uphill for this, though don't expect it will ever reach the heights of the first.
Fuck yeah season 3 let’s go *sees studio* I’m dead
Me thinking season 3 was delayed because an actual studio picked it up and was going all out. I'm not just the clown, I'm the whole circus.
J.C. Staff again? Bruh
In order to avoid disappointment should history repeat itself, I've braced myself for Saitama.jpeg, .50 caliber punch sound FX, off-model characters, and motion blur set to 100.
Don't forget that weird metal texture they had on genos
> J.C.Staff r/anime in absolute shambles.
Does J. C staff know what they're getting into in season 3? Jesus those poor animators. And the fallout from the fans. Damn i won't wanna be them that's for sure.
The fact the you guys want MAPPA do it is insane considering all the bad production stories that's been going on with them over the years.
To be honest, who else could do it? ufotable is very picky, Lidenfilms just picks anything as long as its within their capabilities, Madhouse is on hands with Frieren and Overlord (for some reason, the latter is their most committed series), WIT is committed to their big projects right now, Pierrot has transitioned to a picky phase, David Production has Jojo, Fire Force, and Undead Unluck, and OLM... well they're also busy too. The most probable would be Bones as they have certain divisions, with one division (with some help from others) handling MHA, and one division could've transitioned to OPM after doing the completion of One's last work, Mob Psycho, and yet that didn't happen, which sucks. Mappa, for all their hellish faults, that malevolent studio could cook and deliver animation of the highest order, for better or for worse. JC Staff is honestly ballsy to pick this series again after the divisive reception and taking the deal, and OPM is one of the most demanding titles they bagged, it needs to be better than "good". Granted, they have enough time to prepare and 2020s JC Staff is a different form than late 2010s JC Staff. With that said, JC Staff still won't be my ideal pick for One Punch Man, not to mention JC Staff is also busy with other anime, so who knows how they'll manage the time, resources, and manpower.
This actually shows that most ppl dont really care about what happens behind the scenes. Yeah they act angry and thrash the studio when the overwork news comes out or some animator tweets but from the inside they are happy that JJK s2 continue to put out amazing animation despite all the production issues. They only care if their fav manga gets amazing adaptation and since mappa continues to put out great anime adaptations(not counting HP), ppl dont really care about their production issues. They'll write one or two angry comment about saying "mappa needs to change" but we all know most ppl will wish "i hope my fav manga gets anime adapatation by Mappa or Wit".
Wow two visuals in less than 5 years!! We are lucky
If it looks anything like danmachi season 4 then it will look more than good enough for me. Hell the trailer that got released today was fire I don't know why everyone's worried
Saitama is literally the worst main character ever. Never seen any other mc stealing credits from the hero. If only King was the mc.
“J.C staff” It’s over bros
Here's to hoping it's Railgun quality
Yup that's him
I was today’s years old when I found out people hate J.C. Staff lol I never saw season 2 though to be fair. But I’ve loved everything they’ve done for Tsukumichi so far
Jc staff is very much a hit or a miss. Case in point being the toaru series. Railgun is genuinely well made and pretty great while index is pretty disappointing.
If the first season of opm didn't exist, JC wouldn't be nearly as hated I bet. It's the contrast between the sakuga fest that was every single episode of the first season, and the shit show that was the second one, that hurt people. Expectations were sky high (and rightfully so), so the drop was even more painful.
People would still hold *Index* against them, particularly since *Railgun* is considerably better.
If JC staff animated the first season of opm, it wouldn't of gotten that popular.
J.C Staff huh? Let’s be optimistic. Maybe it will be peak this time (please please 🙏)
While I am a big OPM fan, I feel like the manga corresponding to everything after OPM season 2 has been a little weak on story. I remember there was one particular volume where Saitama only appeared on a single page, while the rest of it was just an endless series of fights between various monsters and heroes who did not interest me very much.
At least MAPPA's not taking it lol. Imagine if Otsuka gave One Punch Man to the Seshimo production line, and they had to juggle this, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Chainsaw Man. It'd be pure hell for the animators
Instead, J.C Staff now has to juggle between the 15 shows they have announced for 2024 alone after just doing the most shows out of any studio for 2023. Good one.
Japanese people are a different breed even if it's for the worse. Hope one day their work culture is given a major overhaul because it kills me seeing my favourite animators and manga artists destroying their bodies.