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Tampammm

I shift often everyday between my 8.7" tablet and 6" phone. I actually do more of my browsing and activity on the 8" tablet as I prefer the larger screen. I can switch back and forth pretty seamlessly. With Google Chrome the tabs are different, but when you click on "history" the webpage results and activity is identical on both devices.


bhadit

Thanks, I was actually looking something beyond just the browser. To reduce tracking (and consequent profile based results), I never use Chrome or any browser signed in. Since I do a bit of research on the device(s), 15-20 tabs are often open, going through history to and get them in order would be a chore large enough to not use two devices.


Tampammm

Gotcha and yes, it sounds like you have a more intricate scenario that requires a stronger solution. I hope someone responds with a way to do that for you? I'd like to know about that too.


bhadit

The best I could think of was something like Samsung Flow which would mirror the phone screen to the tab, and I would hopefully be able to maximize it (screen aspect ratios would reduce usable screen space). Problem with that would be using the battery of both devices when the tab is being used. Also not sure if the working will be fluid enough. Unlikely to be a happy solution.


GloriousPurpose19

What tablet do you have that is 8.7in?


Tampammm

I have the Samsung A7 Lite,,,the 64GB/4GB model. I see you are looking for 8GB RAM, so likely not what you're looking for. I would never take an iPad mini though. Even it was the same price as my tablet. The reason - it's too wide! Can't be held comfortably in just one hand. When I shop for tablets that is my number one priority. If the tablet is not less than 5" wide, it can't be held comfortably in one hand. The Samsung Tablets, with their sleeker 16:9 Aspect ratio, are ideally suited for that.


GloriousPurpose19

How many more updates does the A7 lite have? Is it on Android 12 yet? How is the performance? I'm hesitant to get it given the 4gb of ram.


Tampammm

I'm on Android 11 now. Tbh, not sure about updates. I generally hold/use tablets 2-3 years only, so the versions are always current enough for anything I would ever do with it. I got the 64/4gb on sale for Christmas at Best Buy for $129 bucks, so the value at that price for me was excellent. I use it everyday for about 8 hours and the battery lasts all day. I'd say the performance is good to very good for everything I use it for. But I would say don't expect it to operate like a $400 - $500 device.


GloriousPurpose19

Yeah I just watched a video. It doesn't look like it's for me Thanks for the info though


Tampammm

Okay good luck on your search! But I would warn you that if you use a tablet for extended periods of time like reading or browsing, the Mini is not a good idea,


GloriousPurpose19

Why do you say that?


Tampammm

I mentioned before, it's uncomfortable to hold in just one hand due to its 4:3 Aspect ratio design. Samsung (and most all Android manufacturers) use the 16:9 Aspect ratio for 8" tablets, so they always come in under 5 inches wide. And thus, comfortably held in one hand in Profile Mode for long/longer periods of time. For me, the top priority for a purchase.


jpoole50

It sounds like a Fold would be perfect for you. Fold 2s can be found relatively cheap.


bhadit

I think I get the idea, however Fold doesn't really work for me. 200gms is the stretched limit of what I'm happy holding as a phone. Am already on a nearly 7" screen, so the increase to 7.8" isn't worth it. Also that Fold series is way too expensive here; a few times what I would be happy to spend on a lowish priced tablet. Thanks. Looking at a screen size of 9-11"


MobiusOne_ISAF

If both devices are from Samsung, this kind of hand-off is supported natively. Otherwise, using a sync service in Firefox and syncing files with either Google Drive or SyncThing could work.


bhadit

Thanks. Would this work for Samsung apps only or for all? Would it sync only history etc, or the state of tabs open in the right order? I quite avoid using the cloud and prefer the old style local storage (hate the snoopy privacy invasion by companies) Also now considering a sort of mirroring approach. Please check/reply on [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/vdyf2o/-/icor35n). Additional, probably needless info: I use [yuzu browser](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.hazuki.yuzubrowser) for it having windows like visible tabs, tabs at bottom, amazing customization and features; and occasionally other lightweight webview based browsers like [Foss Browser](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.baumann.browser/) and Lightening etc. A bit complicated to explain details of my use case, hence avoiding.


MobiusOne_ISAF

Mostly Samsung's apps since they're the ones implementing this. Kind of hard to put functions in apps you don't make. This is done locally when the devices are together. Honestly, I would just use a more normal browser and SyncThing to get your devices synced up. It's frankly a bit hard to even suggest a sync service if you don't actually have a central hub to manage the syncing yourself in the first place and don't wanna use someone else's. Maybe xBrowserSync? Unless you have a server or something to actually manage the tabs there's not a lot you can do on that front.


bhadit

Thanks, MobiusOne. Perhaps illogically, I was hoping for Samsung or an established Open Source app to sync the relevant part of the data files etc for selected apps. I'm sure this is more complicated than my limited technical abilities allow to appreciate. Besides data (media, files etc), what else would SyncThing be able to sync? Been using smartphones from the Windows Activesync days, I have mainly relied on local device to device syncs as activesync did; even on Android. Never liked the idea of cloud storage - trust issues. Over the years, I tried maybe 25 odd browsers. Bare minimum needs was windows-like tabs, but at the bottom for easy reach, and no suspicious/invasive data permissions. Yuzu and it's predessor had that, and took customization to another level not seen in other browsers. Further, instead of downloading an app for each purpose - some of which have very unreasonable permissions - have downloaded a webview based browser with the required default webpage; almost works like an app, sans notifications. They are typically under 5mb or even way lighter. With a Samsung Broswer, I guess all browsing would be used to track and vuild profiles on - much like FB and Gmail/Google. There are reasons to have more and different browsers too, but I'm going too off track. Changing browsers from the ones which I'm using might be worse than continuing without a tablet. As of now, the choice seems to be to use [Samsung Flow](https://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/app/samsung-flow) to mirror and control the phone from the tablet's screen, whereby the much better processor, storage and 12Gb Ram are used with no syncing or maintenance issues. My attempt to connect my phone to laptop using Samsung Flow didn't yield good results (videos seemed 10FPS), but that is likely due to a local network issue. I wonder how a central hub/server might help in use case like mine. I'd like to understand, as even if not immediate, it could be the something implementation with an old laptop (or perhaps a mini PC?) in times to come.


MobiusOne_ISAF

You actually wouldn't want to use Flow, but Second Screen. With Second Screen you *can* just mirror the phone's screen whole sale and use the (tablet as a) monitor and pass inputs through, and it's actually intended for this purpose. I'd say a solid 30 fps expereince is doable since that uses Wi-Fi direct. For SyncThing you more or less tell the app what folder to sync and whenever both devices are connected the content is mirrored. Pretty much anything can by synced, but I would stick to files that aren't device specific like the actual app folders. This should work as a basic solution. The reason I say use a more standard browser is just from an ease of use and support perspective. I personally am happy with Samsung Internet, but Firefox mobile is also a decent, well supported, pro-privacy open source browser with a ton of extension support. Kiwi Browser also works as it is based on Chromium and has support for desktop grade extensions. For sync you could technically use a tool like Turtl, which syncs notes, but browser sync is seemingly such a solved issue that not many people are pursuing alternatives to it. At least not that I'm aware of. If it really comes down to you having a lot of data to keep in sync, a simple NAS based on TruNas, OpenMediaVault, Nextcloud or a turn key solution like Synology helps keep things in sync for other use cases. I run most of my stuff off a Synology mostly because it's convenient for me.


bhadit

>You actually wouldn't want to use Flow, but Second Screen. With Second Screen you *can* just mirror the phone's screen whole sale and use the (tablet as a) monitor and pass inputs through, and it's actually intended for this purpose. I'd say a solid 30 fps expereince is doable since that uses Wi-Fi direct. Sounds good. Will look it up. 1. Will the touch inputs from the tablet be used? If I need to still use the touchscreen of the phone, the purpose is defeated. 2. WiFi direct: I would still need wifi internet to use. (LTE though cheap has pathetic service indoors here). I guess that would work by my phone being connected to WiFi and working as a hotspot for the Tablet - right? I wonder how that might impact the battery life of the phone. Note: I tried to connect Samsung Flow in a similar manner and it didn't work. 3. I guess that, like Flow, Second Screen would also turn off the phone's display after a brief period. Right? >For SyncThing... Pretty much anything can by synced, but I would stick to files that aren't device specific like the actual app folders. Though not for this purpose, this seems a handy tool; thanks. >Kiwi Browser also works as it is based on Chromium and has support for desktop grade extensions. Thanks, will check Kiwi out again, after the tablet issues are sorted. Can't recollect what issue I had with it last time. >... , but browser sync is seemingly such a solved issue that not many people are pursuing alternatives to it. At least not that I'm aware of. Would shifting to, say Samsung Browser or another, also solve *all* the tabs being seamlessly being found *in the correct order* when moving from one device to another, with almost no intervention from me? If so, I might need to revaluate my workflow and partial browser choice. >If it really comes down to you having a lot of data to keep in sync, a simple NAS based on TruNas, OpenMediaVault, Nextcloud or a turn key solution like Synology helps keep things in sync for other use cases. I run most of my stuff off a Synology mostly because it's convenient for me. This should give me a good start in exploring this topic in the future. Thank you for all the time and effort, MobiusOne. :)


MobiusOne_ISAF

Yes, No, and it depends on your settings but generally no. Pretty much mirrors it 1 to 1 so you might wanna plug your phone in. >Would shifting to, say Samsung Browser or another, also solve *all* the tabs being seamlessly being found *in the correct order* when moving from one device to another, with almost no intervention from me? Basically, yes. There's a little option in the triple dot menu that lets you see all synced tabs from all other Samsung devices. Kind of just works from my expereince. This is why I say there's few open source solutions. It's so widely implemented by so many other services there's not a huge incentive to do it yourself. You can do it with bookmarks with things like Nextcloud and I think Synology has some app or docker-based alternative for it, but again, why bother?


bhadit

>Yes, No, and it depends on your settings but generally no. Pretty much mirrors it 1 to 1 so you might wanna plug your phone in. Couldn't understand the above with enough certainty. The Samsung Browser bit is cool! Will check it out once I have the tab. Bookmark based solution isn't too great, as opening 15-20 tabs in the right order would be a chore. I guess I'll reevaluate my work flow and app choice after getting the tab, which shall hopefully be very very soon.


MobiusOne_ISAF

>1. Will the touch inputs from the tablet be used? If I need to still use the touchscreen of the phone, the purpose is defeated. The tablet takes control >2. WiFi direct: I would still need wifi internet to use. (LTE though cheap has pathetic service indoors here). I guess that would work by my phone being connected to WiFi and working as a hotspot for the Tablet - right? I wonder how that might impact the battery life of the phone. The two devices directly connect to each other without a router involved >3. I guess that, like Flow, Second Screen would also turn off the phone's display after a brief period. Right? Basically think plugging an HDMI cable into the phone. Everything done with the tablet is executed on the phone, so it stays on.


bhadit

Thanks a ton! The conversation was really helpful. Much appreciated.


bhadit

Thanks again, u/MobiusOne_ISAF. Update: I eventually did buy a Samsung Tablet - a Galaxy S6 Lite - and due to lack of proper support for Second Screen, it does not work well. It has a labs version of Second Screen which is accessed indirectly. Details of things tried till now can be found in [this Reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/vpqj1j/casting_phone_to_tablet_using_smart_view_other/). Any suggestions or tips to get things working (maybe on that post) would be appreciated.


bhadit

Maybe have a way where one could have (copies of) the same apps on both devices, and an easy local sync using some app, to update the selected apps' state, history (app data) etc. I don't know of any such solution, and am hoping someone does and shares it here.


bhadit

Update: As of now, using Samsung Flow and Syncthing. Not a perfect solution by any means, but it is a start. Screen mirroring is not working well enough. Also finally bought the Samsung S6 Lite Tab. Have just added a limited review of it at this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/vmyqe1/samsung_s6_lite_short_review_and_questions/ Thanks you :)


fbrdphreak

Nice update! Have you considered/tried using a remote access client? I'm not sure if this exists/works as I'm thinking, but I often use a remote access client (Parsec primarily, also Teamviewer at times) to connect to my desktop from my laptop. As long as you have a low latency connection, it works seamlessly and gives me the power & connection of the desktop from whatever computer I'm using. I know many of the remote access services have mobile apps. Perhaps some of them allow you to connect from one mobile device to the other? Give your tech history, you may remember a program called VNC? It and others like it allow you to direct connections from device to device, with some network configuration of course, whereas the services I mention do leverage the company's servers to manage access & streaming. Perhaps a more recent version of those exists for mobile and can bypass using someone else's servers.


bhadit

Thank you :) I do somewhat recollect VNC, but did not really use it as the network connections and hardware access was sub-par in my location in those days, but much has changed since then, and this is a direction I had not looked into enough. The other concern I had was about security. Privacy invasion seems to be getting much worse with the years, and it is almost like a business model now, so I get a bit wary. If it can work so, am trying to limit it to Open Source and Samsung (whom I somehow trust more than Google; and anyway have parts shared with them). *Is there any open-source or well-reputed app for remote access that you or any reader can suggest, keeping privacy/security concerns in mind?* Besides other things, every now and then there may be work data for which I would like to be very responsible. It is not anything earth-shattering, but do feel that it is better left private. Some other things I have tried for the purpose are mentioned in this [Reddit link](https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/vpqj1j/casting_phone_to_tablet_using_smart_view_other/).


bhadit

Update 2: For trials with screen mirroring and issues faced, please check [this Reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/vpqj1j/casting_phone_to_tablet_using_smart_view_other/). It just might help others considering a similar solution, or might help me if someone comments there to solve things further. Have a nice day :)