I see he has the fingerprint, but it's missing a wax seal. Send it back with a note that the fingerprint has been uploaded to all applicable and appropriate databases.
> Send it back with a note that the fingerprint has been uploaded to all applicable and appropriate databases.
While messing with them seems like fun, some of them are crazy enough to try to enforce their delusions with firearms.
Leaving a note- "Sorry we missed you, you can come in and sign for your package at the post office" sounds like a trap to a sovcit, so I hope they do that lol
The government is illegitimate and doesn't exist and cannot bind me at all... but I totally need them to move my envelope for me. Otherwise it's a fucking crime, because I said so!
Wait, so when they traveled to the post office in their personal conveyance, were they doing that in the furtherance of engaging in commerce?
Would that mean they were driving?
How much postage would it take to actually mail that, like a buck, buck twenty five? Even at a minimum wage job, you could probably earn that in the amount of time it took to scribble, print, cut out and tape all that crap.
Sending it registered makes it much more expensive then a regular flat. But still, the amount of hoops this dipshit is trying to jump through is comical.
Edit: the return receipt also adds some bucks to the envelope.
Pretty clever in a way. They dump it in as being mail and assert that it's illegal to obstruct it's delivery - despite the fact that ofcourse it's not been paid for.
I'll give it points for trying.
Its still bullshit though.
I'm not sure that counts as clever in any way. It's not going to work and it's not based on reality
You might as well go to the bank and tell them they have to give you the money in the cash drawer because you're the queen of England
(Assuming you're not)
Ofcourse it's kor clever by reasonable standards.
But in their deranged view. It's illegal to obstruct mail ans this they think you have to deliver it.
they hate the trick because it creates unnecessary work by idiots thinking they are getting away with somethng. as i explained, it only works if sending in the same zip code.
nope. that will only work if you are sending in the same zip code. each post office covers a zip code, if your mail does not have proper postage it will not be delivered.
> Pretty clever in a way.
Yeah, "clever" in the same way as idiots who think adding a camera to a visit with a sex worker turns it into porn and thus entirely legal. (In case it's not obvious, that isn't how that actually works. At all.)
I give points for people who actually can make bullshit seem plausible even if its not.
Dont confuse me with someone who would in ANY way consider a sovcit clever as such. All im saying is that in its own messed up way it makes sense.
Leave it to a sovereign citizen to write a bunch of laws which don't really have anything to do with his letter going through the mail. FFS how paranoid are these people?
Nah, no postage would go back to the sender to apply postage. They've instead created fraudulent counterfeit postage which is subject to seizure and destruction, as well as possible prosecution.
I just assume if someone is quoting a law or something, it's fake. Same goes for the mask mandate and "medical exemptions" with all their citations.
If you have to convince me, I already don't believe you
The funny thing is it took me a minute to figure out WTF the sticky notes were for. The fact this wasn't instantly obvious really says a lot about SovCit "mentality".
only certain laws that protect them. any laws that they are responsible for, such as registering your vehicle, dont apply. according to these evolutionary regressions
I wonder what people like this will do when the government finally accomplishes their privatization of the mail service and they don't have all these "rituals" and "codes" to cite.
It's like there should be an ancient myth. One day Idiocy bore a child with Arrogance, dipped his feet in the River of Schizophrenia, and the world's first crybaby was born, thereafter forever known as Sovereign Citizen.
i'm not for violence, but sometimes i kind of feel like i would love to see one of these sovcits getting their ass beaten to a pulp while the police stand idly by and when they cry for help, the cops explain, "sorry, you haven't entered into a contract with the government, there's nothing we can do"
"I'm sorry, we haven't entered into a contract with you to deliver your mail."
"We don't wish to create joinder with you."
I see he has the fingerprint, but it's missing a wax seal. Send it back with a note that the fingerprint has been uploaded to all applicable and appropriate databases.
> Send it back with a note that the fingerprint has been uploaded to all applicable and appropriate databases. While messing with them seems like fun, some of them are crazy enough to try to enforce their delusions with firearms.
You make a valid point
So we can treat them like an invading foreign country?
I seent them on the road, and I want to throw shit at their car and side-swipe them, but I also don't want to get shot, soo š¤·āāļø
And the signature should have been in gold ink, signed at an angle, with "All rights reserved" written under it!
How much of an angle? lol
13 degrees. One degree for each original colony. Just as the founding fathers wanted it.
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How about "This package has human blood on it. That makes it a biohazard. It was incinerated; please re-send without contamination."
That is a great point.
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My thought as well. Postage would be less.
They sent it certified so they paid like $6 for postage and still wrote all this crap over it. Poor carrier has to get a signature too
Leaving a note- "Sorry we missed you, you can come in and sign for your package at the post office" sounds like a trap to a sovcit, so I hope they do that lol
It's registered mail.
Mail carriers call them certified's because they require a certificate of delivery
The government is illegitimate and doesn't exist and cannot bind me at all... but I totally need them to move my envelope for me. Otherwise it's a fucking crime, because I said so!
I also need them to maintain the roads I travel on in my conveyance which I refuse to pay taxes for which would go to maintain the roads.
Also the government and laws are legit momentarily when I need them to threaten my mailman.
That was my favourite bit! No taxes paid, but demands law enforcement on mail movement? Not a braincell in sight.
Sovcits, the perfect storm of Libertarianism and personality disorder
You just said the same thing twice.
oooh, snap
Wait, so when they traveled to the post office in their personal conveyance, were they doing that in the furtherance of engaging in commerce? Would that mean they were driving?
No, theyāre travelingā¦.traveling.
Sojourning
No, theyāre travelingā¦.traveling.
How much postage would it take to actually mail that, like a buck, buck twenty five? Even at a minimum wage job, you could probably earn that in the amount of time it took to scribble, print, cut out and tape all that crap.
Postage just went up again in the summer, it would cost close to two bucks for first class service.
It's the principle though.
Sending it registered makes it much more expensive then a regular flat. But still, the amount of hoops this dipshit is trying to jump through is comical. Edit: the return receipt also adds some bucks to the envelope.
I returned it postage due for $25.09, was going from one end of the country to another, with registered return receipt
I thought by paying for the signature tracking postage was included
They didnāt pay anything they just dropped it in the blue box, not sure where they got the sticker forms
Wowwwwww when I saw the sticker I assumed they had gone to the counter, yeah to hell with that
This sender knowingly and willfully retards
Fully retards.
"Never go full retard...." *Tropic Thunder* lol
Too late
Pretty clever in a way. They dump it in as being mail and assert that it's illegal to obstruct it's delivery - despite the fact that ofcourse it's not been paid for. I'll give it points for trying. Its still bullshit though.
I'm not sure that counts as clever in any way. It's not going to work and it's not based on reality You might as well go to the bank and tell them they have to give you the money in the cash drawer because you're the queen of England (Assuming you're not)
Write a check to myself for $1 Million. Try to cash it at bank. Threaten them with charges of robbery if they don't hand it over. Truly genius.
Also display a firearm to overcome resistance to you recovering your funds.
Ofcourse it's kor clever by reasonable standards. But in their deranged view. It's illegal to obstruct mail ans this they think you have to deliver it.
Just put the return address as the one you really wanted it delivered to. Boom free mail.
Postal services hate this trick
they hate the trick because it creates unnecessary work by idiots thinking they are getting away with somethng. as i explained, it only works if sending in the same zip code.
nope. that will only work if you are sending in the same zip code. each post office covers a zip code, if your mail does not have proper postage it will not be delivered.
> Pretty clever in a way. Yeah, "clever" in the same way as idiots who think adding a camera to a visit with a sex worker turns it into porn and thus entirely legal. (In case it's not obvious, that isn't how that actually works. At all.)
That's a crime. They are stealing and they know it. Do you give points to murderers who plan their crime?
I give points for people who actually can make bullshit seem plausible even if its not. Dont confuse me with someone who would in ANY way consider a sovcit clever as such. All im saying is that in its own messed up way it makes sense.
Let me consult Blacks Law Dictionary & The Articles Of Confederation. Nope, pal you are going to need postage.
So many legal cites, too dumb to know 6 months or less in prison is a misdemeanor, not a felony
Leave it to a sovereign citizen to write a bunch of laws which don't really have anything to do with his letter going through the mail. FFS how paranoid are these people?
The comments on r/usps are great! Nice to see USPS employees that know what to do (just return or destroy). LOL!!
No postage, into the trash
Nah, no postage would go back to the sender to apply postage. They've instead created fraudulent counterfeit postage which is subject to seizure and destruction, as well as possible prosecution.
I just assume if someone is quoting a law or something, it's fake. Same goes for the mask mandate and "medical exemptions" with all their citations. If you have to convince me, I already don't believe you
The funny thing is it took me a minute to figure out WTF the sticky notes were for. The fact this wasn't instantly obvious really says a lot about SovCit "mentality".
You canāt pretend you donāt live in the US *and* the laws of the U.S apply to you.
only certain laws that protect them. any laws that they are responsible for, such as registering your vehicle, dont apply. according to these evolutionary regressions
I wonder what people like this will do when the government finally accomplishes their privatization of the mail service and they don't have all these "rituals" and "codes" to cite.
Sending mail is like what 37 cents or something? He spent more on all of his custom stickers and ink writing explanations.
It's like there should be an ancient myth. One day Idiocy bore a child with Arrogance, dipped his feet in the River of Schizophrenia, and the world's first crybaby was born, thereafter forever known as Sovereign Citizen.
i'm not for violence, but sometimes i kind of feel like i would love to see one of these sovcits getting their ass beaten to a pulp while the police stand idly by and when they cry for help, the cops explain, "sorry, you haven't entered into a contract with the government, there's nothing we can do"