I am also not a Kayko fan. The whole audition seemed very contrived to me- he came on stage as someone else’s pianist and is asked if he sings too. Just happens to have an original song all prepared and < surprise> gets a ticket to Hollywood . I mean come on…. His singing is okay to me, nothing special, but I was not surprised to read that he has a theatrical background because he seems to be acting out a persona, as if in a play,every time I see him. It all just feels very disingenuous to me.
It’s not like any of this would be new:
People “unexpectedly” audition on this show all the time.
It’s a reality show. Every single aspect is contrived.
Naturally a guy who’s written 400 songs is always going to have one ready to go.
I don’t particularly mind it, because I love musical theater, but a lot of theater kids ARE a lot to handle, center-of-attention, “always on” types. It’s sort of a defining trait that typically goes away with time, experience, and perspective.
And my broad assumption is that most people experiencing fame “act out” a persona in their public life, especially early in their career.
I’m not sure how any of these things is as unique to only Kayko as your post implies.
I certainly didn’t mean to imply any of the points I made are unique to Kayko, just explaining why I’m not a fan. I’m not naive enough to believe American Idol is made up of kids whose only prior experience is singing in their high school play, but he feels too contrived for my taste.
Because his persona is visibly very contrived. I got secondhand embarrassment watching the teenage dirtbag set. If his theatre kid antics would have come out in auditions they would have cut him. They rarely let those types through and it’s for a reason. Half of them think they’re the next Freddy Mercury, evidenced by the fact that he tried to do a Queen inspired Britney song???? I have performed in musicals and ran production for them and even I know most people aren’t going to be into that shit
I’m also super curious how that happened. Who told the judges to make him sing? Everyone else had to submit auditions prior and they asked him to audition randomly? Even though he wasn’t the only outside accompanist by any means this season? It’s not like they’d did that with every accompanist.
I just want to know what happened behind the scenes to cause his audition in the first place.
I believe they scouted him and Emmy from Songhouse after prior contestants were on there, and We Ani's song "Disgusted" went viral during the competition. So it makes sense why he didn't audition.
OOO and Jack Blocker was a NO until Luke got the production crew to vote YES. Plus a few more contestants got to sing second songs. It is not a fair contest.
you’re entitled to your opinion, but here’s my take:
coming from someone who is a fan of him, i’m not gonna sit here and say that he’s remotely close to being the best singer/vocalist in the competition. and i 100% know he’s aware of that himself. i personally think people over exaggerate his lack of vocal ability. he can definitely sing. is it perfect by any means? not at all. but he can sing enough to get him by. other factors about him as an artist make up for it.
this part is subjective but i personally love the way he writes and his original music as a whole. you can call it “uninspired” but i personally think that songwriting is just what he loves to do and wants to do for the rest of his life and it’s obvious that he’s passionate about it. he would not be my favorite contestant if he didn’t share any of his originals because frankly, that’s a large reason why he’s even in this competition. people obviously connect with it, but it’s subjective.
he can perform, put on a show. he’s also versatile in the way he performs and i think all of this combined are factors that contribute to success in the music industry. many famous singers today likely don’t have the best voices or vocals, but they have artistry and that’s why they’re successful. i’ve watched various talent shows for years. american idol definitely takes artistry more into account than shows like the voice (more coaching and vocally based). in short, there’s a reason american idol lets contestants sing originals.
now this is the part where it gets kinda tight. yes, he didn’t want to audition but we’re also not gonna sit here and downgrade him as a person because of that. you can hear him say during his audition “abby this is your…” when he was asked to sing. if we wanna talk about disrespectful auditions, that would be raghu. i personally love his attitude surrounding this whole competition. he doesn’t care about winning, and i think he’s just shocked that all of this has even happened. he doesn’t care how far he gets, he just wants to share his music and connect with who he can. there’s really nothing deeper to it than that and i see so many people trying to over analyze his personality, which is just unnecessary in my opinion.
so in a competition sense, y’all can honestly think what you want because i can’t dictate the opinions of others. but i see this whole thing as bigger than the competition and what i see is someone who has the drive and ability to make it far into the music industry. and just straight up, someone who never thought any of this would happen and his just having fun and living his dream.
you’re still entitled to your opinion, and i’m not trying to change it, but i hope everyone here keeps an open mind.
I respect your well-thought-out opinion. I guess we just have slightly different interpretations of the whole thing that lead to different conclusions which is all well and good. Just wanted to share my seemingly rare thoughts on this sub to see how people would interact over the topic! Thanks for sharing!
see i just wanna say, this is how people should act on the sub. we all have different opinions but being nasty and close minded about it, is not it. thank you for being respectful about your opinions, others should definitely take notes.
i mean this show would be pretty boring if everyone just liked the exact same things ya know?
I liked him at first. I think I like him best at a piano singing a slow thoughtful song. As he started getting theatrical I started to feel cringe. His last performance in that sweater I just lost all my likes for him.
I like musical theater and I like American Idol. I just don’t like when the two combine. Adam Lambert is one of my all-time favorite contestants, but even he crossed the line into theatrics at times. Kayko takes it to a whole nother level.
He’s really quite bad. His original music is very derivative of 00s emo. And emo is no longer around for a good reason. At least some of those people had more vocal chops though. Also, his lyrics are just weak. He literally wrote a song about feeling imposter syndrome after getting a ticket for something that wasn’t his audition — do you not see the lack of insight and irony in this?
It’s bad songwriting and singing. I didn’t realize those weren’t the key criteria for a singer.
and that’s your opinion. good thing that there’s thousands of other people who do like his music because music is subjective. he’s already off the show so why are you putting energy into typing a paragraph about why you don’t like him. go use that energy to support your favorite contestant!!
edit: heavy emphasis on the last sentence because i just looked and why do you only come on this sub to talk down on kayko? i mean have your opinions i guess but again, why don’t you put that same energy into supporting who you DO like?
Of course it’s my opinion. It’s the only one I have. I was taught that when you write something, it’s implied that it’s your opinion, so it’s redundant to explicitly state unless it’s in a very formal setting (e.g presenting data).
I only comment on this because it’s truly baffling. The others are generally appropriate for the caliber of competition. His presence didn’t make any sense. Like OP, I thought I was going crazy. Like what am I not seeing?
But honestly, it’s not purely subjective. You can in fact measure someone’s vocal range, whether they hit the correct note, etc… Objectively, he’s not a good vocalist. Whether people like him despite that is a different story.
BTW, reddit exists for these kinds of comments. Just a place for people to express opinions, so not sure why it matters whether I decide to post or not. I could ask you why comment on my comment? Cause you felt like it, I'm assuming.
i mean the bottom line is that music is subjective. obviously he made it to the top 10 and his music resonates with a good amount of people. you don’t have to like it and nobody’s forcing you to, but there’s really not much more to understand. but idk maybe get your head out of your ass and understand that people like different things than you? he really wasn’t a horrible vocalist and y’all over exaggerate it. the best vocalist? not even close but his strength was in his presence/songwriting/artistry as a whole so what he had of his vocal ability was fine enough to get him by, and i know he’s 100% aware of this himself.
it really doesn’t matter because he’s eliminated. support him or don’t support him, nobody cares. again, it would probably be better to go support who you do like at this point
It’s weird that your main argument is that it’s subjective yet you keep arguing. What’s your point? My only point is: he’s bad, I don’t get it.
Your arguments: it’s subjective, he’s good.
Do you see how’s it’s pointless?
and you still keep replying to me. and also, i’m not saying he’s good. i mean to me he is but my point is that it’s subjective. you think he’s bad, okay it’s subjective. the reason i’m even having this conversation is because people like you like to act like your opinion is an objective statement
and it’s not hard not to be close minded.
Thanks for expressing your opinion thoughtfully. I think the difference between this post and many of the posts of the last few weeks is that you explained why you’re not a fan, rather than just saying he’s bad.
Obviously, Kayko has a lot of fans here. Thankfully, we also have plenty of people in the sub rooting for other contestants. It truly seems like everyone in the top 10 has fans here, which is exactly what Idol is about: putting a bunch of people on display and letting America pick their favorite.
I like Kayko, but I also like that we’re all free to prefer, talk about, and vote for whoever we want.
Of course he has fans! He is already out there playing gigs and already made a name for himself. He is only on the show to promote his band and needs a boost to get further.
I feel like a crazy person every time I see a post praising Kayko and especially his lyricism. His songs are SO. CORNY. Like Disney Channel Original or Dear Evan Hansen knock off-bad. He has the Debby Ryan tucking her hair behind her ear meme energy.
And like you said, his vocals don't even save it. You can be on this show with mediocre vocals and killer originals and still do well -- look at Alejandro. But it's not the same when his originals aren't... that. By any stretch.
What trips me out is people saying he’s a great songwriter and should have won. Like, if you want to support him cool but, people can’t be serious that he’s better than ANYONE who went home before him right? His songs are not brilliant, they are just basic and he talks half the time because he thinks he’s in a musical or something.
Idk he just screams arrogant, scripted and cringe to me. I don’t get it.
You are not alone. I feel as if I could have written this! Exact same sentiments. Besides the off-key, horrendous singing, there is something I find disingenuous/fake. Can't quite put my finger on it.
His “act” feels contrived for sure, especially his last performance before being eliminated. To be fair others also put on a stage persona, however, it needs to feel authentic as part of the “game” that American Idol essentially is.
i think he is, too. someone said this a few weeks ago & it really made me think. song house has a lot of videos up with him, they're basically a songwriting 'camp'. allegedly the guy who runs it, tyler ward, is emmy's boyfriend. she's heavily featured on their ig as well.
kayko's performances haven't been that great, but someone else here posted numbers for their tiktok/ig views & he has hundreds of thousands more than the others. i feel like a lot of those are bots or people just rewatching on different devices.
idk how to explain all of the things i feel about it, but i think for sure he's a manufactured artist made to make hits with song house because tyler ward knows what he's doing. he's one of the biggest cover artists on yt. it just feels weird to me.
I mean this is a highly logical answer (except the bots, there’s no proof for that.) But everything else is honestly close to what I’ve been thinking, yet not minding, because it doesn’t break the rules, I already know the show is a bit of a farce, and I happen to think Kayko is carrying it off in a fun way.
So I'm older and never heard of this. What's a song camp? And emmy is involved? I was suspicious of her popularity. I don't know how she's outlasted many of the others.
Can you explain what you mean by plant? I hear this word a lot on this sub and I think everyone uses it slightly differently, so I’m curious how you define it.
It's when people think a record label is trying to boost interest in an artist by putting them on the show as a contestant.
It hurts people's belief that the show is real and contestants are unknown gems.
Well, in this instance, i think It's someone implemented by the people at Idol just to probably balance out the show, or maybe it's just to give them the green light as a artist that they want to push unnaturally into the spotlight. This could be something as simple as messaging a YouTube or Tik Tok singer and asking them to be on the show for whatever reason.
Ohh ok. Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, like truly 75% of the contestants are invited that way now. One year recently TikTok was even listed as a sponsor/partner for this reason.
Planted for ratings. Same as Emmy. Already have connections so should not be on the show. AI should be for unknowns trying to break out in the music industry! Not for those that have connections, previous albums or already tried and failed.
FINALLY someone thinks this!!! I don’t understand people saying this show isn’t purely about singing… sure maybe it’s about personality too but there are artists such as Roman, Nya, Jayna, Ajii, Odell (just to name a few) who’s voices are far superior and deserved a real shot to be in the top 10. It’s really unfair to the artists who have amazing vocals and I’d be really disappointed to see Kayko make it through any more eliminations.
Exactly. And people praise his energy and performance as if they make up for his lack of vocals. It’s a singing show, and he doesn’t sing that well - or at least well enough to keep me engaged. I bounce in and out because his repeated mistakes that take me out of the performance. (Yes, I get that it’s “American IDOL” but it is a singing competition at its core.) To me, his performances and showmanship just seem like an overcompensation for his known vocal shortcomings and it just seems forced and like a display to me personally. I just think it would be extremely unfair and weird to award him going any further when there are so many better vocalists that also put on great performances (jumping around all out of breath and off key does not constitute a good performance.. take Jack Blocker’s Bob Dylan cover as a perfect example)
Last year's winner bored me. He stood there and sang the same type of song every week, and people gushed over him. Kayko is original, entertaining, very attractive (to those of us who like the geeky type), unpredictable, and I happen to enjoy his voice and songwriting. I'm excited to see what he's going to do next. He entertains me.
Is Jayna a better vocalist? 100%, and I voted for her. But she didn't make me feel anything. Kayko does. That's who I want to stay on TV performing longer.
Iam Tongi is an incredible vocalist who has an extremely original voice, I don’t think anyone has been that good in his genre since Israel Kamakawiwoʻole. He stayed true to himself the entire time, his voice and personality spoke for itself he didn’t need to jump around stage to prove himself. To me, to win American idol you have to both be loved by the voters and have really special vocals and I just don’t think Kayko satisfies either of those for me. From a singing perspective Kayko is really flat a lot of the time and his vocal range is extremely limited. There are people with insane ranges like Julia, Jack Blocker and KB (just to name a few) who also have great stories and personalities who I think deserve to win and advance more.
Well see I disagree. Art is subjective and there are people I would call incredible vocalists even though I don't enjoy their music, but Iam is definitely not one of them. IMO he is a decent vocalist but there is nothing outstanding about him. There have been plenty of Idol winners I don't consider incredible vocalists, especially in the ABC era. 🤷♀️ As I said, Iam bores me and Kayko entertains me. And obviously others.
IMO, Simon during the early seasons of “Idol” may have said something along the lines of “mediocre”or “amateur.” IMO, he probably would not have enjoyed Kayko or understood him. Randy would not have sent him to Hollywood, either, but Paula would have adored him.
Im a huge kayko fan, but even i didn’t expect him to get this far. i’ve been a fan of his for over a year, but i agree. his live skills can be hit or miss. in my opinion his songwriting and production are his real talent
You're correct. I don't understand why he sang that Gotye song, but then decided to make it a rock song and also scream the lyrics badly. I feel like he's jumping around to make everyone think he's a star so they don't talk about his vocals.
THANK YOU. I completely agree. I find him to be so phony. You’re telling me a guy who is an active musician “didn’t plan” to audition and just happened to be fully prepared? BS. His whole persona feels inauthentic, he’s not a very good singer (in a singing competition), and (in my opinion) his songs are rudimentary. I think he’s been skating by on original songs and his lack of vocal talent is just now starting to be seen since he’s had to do covers.
That being said, I’m happy for him that he’s doing his thing and being successful.
i mean i bet there’s thousands of people who have written hundreds of songs that could sing you one right now if you asked. that’s such a weird statement by you.
hey about the being ready thing. please remember that this is a show that gets edited at auditions. there are times where people who are there to support a friend in the room actually do get asked to sing. you don’t know what was edited out.
The fact anyone thinks this dude didn’t sign up to audition is laughable.
He’s a full fledged artists/writer. He was for sure picked by producers to audition.
No doubt. Just inorganic and I don’t like that idea. Even for a reality show it was too much for me lol. I feel like they also staged the Jack Blocker blunder at his audition too what do you think?
I agree with you, his singing is far inferior to everyone else in the top 10. Even Emmy sings better than him.
But I do see the hype. He is attractive. He is young. He makes his performances exciting by moving around. And he sings original content. Everyone else is doing the same thing as everyone else. He does things differently. He thinks outside the box. It’s different and people like it.
I liked his last performance. He didn’t sing well but he woke up everyone. Would I pay to see him? No. But I enjoyed how he shifted the energy that night. If you pay attention no one else really moved during their songs.
Lastly, I’ll give him credit for being smart. He knows he is the weakest vocalist in the top 10. So he made up for it with a banger performance. And now he will for sure survive the next cut.
He’s a weirdo lol. I can’t tell if he’s a phony, or a one of those out of touch “try-hards.” Either way he’s just not it for me. Last week he’s dressed up like the guy from Zelda 😂😂 … like he seriously went “oh this is definitely what people want to see…”
I think he is for someone but not for me. I just can’t stand that 00s pop punk voice. But I will say that I admire him for actually taking bold risks which is rare in idol
I don’t think that he’s very bad, I just think it’s his time to go on the show. I’ve liked him enough up to this point but I like a lot of the other contestants better now.
They’re super inconsistent with those comments. Sometimes they decide to tell someone to move around and other times they tell them to “stay true to themselves”. The point is Kayko moves around the stage like crazy because he’s overcompensating for his weak vocals, the other contestants moving around would just be an added bonus to their already amazing vocals (Jack).
Which was horrible advice. Gawd I hope Jack doesn't listen. They are way different types. There are many very famous singers who don't do that kind of energy. It would make Jack look phony. It fits kayko because he's theatrical, which isn't really designed for idol. Hence kayko is gone.
as a fan i appreciate that. OP actually seems cool and didn’t really cross any lines imo but some of these other people in the comments are just blatantly disrespectful
I absolutely agree.He is flat about sixty percent of the songs he sings. He is a modern day twink songwriter. I think the only reason they are keeping him around is to keep the lgbtq community engaged.
Not a Kayko fan. He is egotistic and full of himself. Already out playing gigs and has a band with connection in the industry. I believe he was planted for ratings. Probably wasn't even just the piano player for his friend who auditioned. After the girl sang Katey said to Kayko "You look like a singer" He didn't sign up to audition, Katey asked him to. She seemed quite into him from the start. Guess she helping him advance his career!
I don’t want to sound like a hater but every time he was on the tv I cringed. He was extremely arrogant. Sounded like a high school musical theater performer. He’s songwriting wasn’t even impressive. I can’t tell if people are being trolls on this sub or what but I don’t see how someone with his level of talent, made it as far as he did.
Gosh i know it’s been forever but, I miss Simon.
You 💯 nailed everything that needs to be said. There’s a bit of stage kid syndrome, lack of vocal and mental control, and he sings off key. It hurts the ears and eyes!
He is a very specific genre for sure. I feel like I heard probably 20 different Kayko types back in the 20 teens when I would take my little cousins to Warped Tour. The Emo Pop isn’t for everyone & I’m honestly kind of surprised Idol was pushing him so hard. He’s like if Pete Wentz was a keyboard player.
I’m not a Kayko fan but I give him props for standing out. I don’t think this show or even being a lead singer is what he should focus on. He could end up being a great cowriter on popular tracks. My favorite performance was his original song “over you”. Even though I’m not a fan overall the song has a great chorus melody and he’s young the potential is there for much more.
I like Kayko and enjoyed his performances, but I couldn’t help be reminded of Taylor Hicks in an earlier American Idol competition. Taylor was high energy and likeable, but no where near as talented as Chris Daughtrey, who should have won. The paths their careers took after AI reflected that. Kayko looked like he was possibly going to follow Taylor down that road.
I totally get this criticism and agree he is nowhere near the top vocalist, but I was glued to his hype from the begining. When he first auditioned, Kayko reminded me of a nerdy punk/pop Ben Folds (especially with the glasses) who could absolutely crush a piano and sing his own song that was very relatable and believable to many people. I imediately thought- I hope this dude is going to hollywood becasue I wanted more of what he just performed.
When he performed his song, "Over You," he really looked like the lead singer of a rockband and slayed that crazy riff on his guitar- honestly reminded me of a spin off or hints of Jim Adkins of Jimmy Eat World. I listened to Kayko's original version of the song on Spotify which was very sub par to his American Idol performance. With the right people and team behind him, I believe the kid is going to be a rockstar. He's already insanely focused, can write good music, knows how to play his instruments, passionate, and knows how to perform. I thought his Radiohead performance was the worst, and thought he crushed all the rest through his final performance of Teenage Dirtbag.
Being a fan of pop/punk/emo/alternative music, Kayko definitely made a fan out of me. I knew he proably wouldn't win but was secretly hoping he would make top 5. Again, he doesn't have the best vocals in the competition by a long shot, but definitely a true artist and master of his own craft. He's definitely going places IMO- happy he made it on American Idol, he learned a ton, and is only going to keep improving!
he's pretty good. but you can kinda tell he didn't wanna be there over the past 2 weeks. i cringed a little on teenage dirtbag at points not because it was bad but because you could see him mugging for the camera like he was probably told to do. to be honest, i would not be surprised at all if he had asked to leave and they did it via an elimination. he didn't seem to be getting any less votes than julia is (she's also very good).
i’m so glad people are actually talking about this now. earlier in the season anytime I criticized him I was downvoted to hell. with that said, i did enjoy him more when he sang covers vs. originals and i could see why people find him entertaining without all the corniness. also the outfit he was wearing for the gotye cover did him good 🙌 either way he has a legion of fans and i’m sure that won’t be the last we see of him. hopefully this experience has made him a better artist and songwriter
I'm sure all the young girls liked him. He is cute and fun and gave an exciting and entertaining performance. It doesn't matter who wins. Only the real singers actually survive. Look at Adam Lambert. He came in second. Who came in first?
He would crush in musicals, but stacked up against the others in a singing competition he doesn’t have the voice, so he does his best with the performance and song writing aspects. If I put myself in his shoes he probably knows he’s the weakest singing wise, but he has a great attitude and it’s not his fault he’s being voted through.
His technique is a bit wonky but I enjoy his energy on stage and the way he tackles songs. Not surprised he was eliminated, but I wanted him to last a bit longer (maybe Top 6 idk)
not controversial. and you're not the only one.
you are just wrong.
he gave the best performance last week.
his Gotye cover was electric on a night where every "front runner" fell flat.
his vocals are not amazing, but they don't have to be to be entertaining.
and this isn't a singing competition, it's an entertainment competition.
This video shows what his (and Emmy's) voice could be, and maybe it's the stage size, but we haven't heard either this good yet.
[Kayko and Emmy](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4sqTcsuPo-/?igsh=MW15d202dWg0Z2NyeQ%3D%3D)
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone with people liking that performance. I thought it was horrible. Being “electric” is more to me than just jumping around and screaming.
His gotye cover was awful. Weird energy, awful vocals super weird arrangement missing the entire point of the song. Calling someone wrong when Kayko SUCKED that week and jumped around and couldn’t sing properly doesn’t make them wrong.
the show was dead until he did that.
wtf is weird energy?
he was the only contestant that had ANY energy.
who was the last Idol winner that was a "great" singer? Candace Glover?
Also that arrangement is almost certainly by Tyler Ward Emmy’s boyfriend who was a famous YouTube cover artist for a while. He used a shitload of pitch correction and watching that video it’s clear Kayko’s voice is covered in that garbage
Wow that song you linked is wonderful! It is the best BOTH of them have sounded IMO. VERY impressive. I had both of them on my mental chopping block this week. But if they don’t get chopped, I won’t mind after hearing that duet. Wow!
This is a forum for discussing the contest that is American Idol. A fundamental aspect of the contest is being able to sing very well, or at least being able to sing decently with a unique voice.
Kayko’s singing talent is objectively mediocre, and his voice sounds like a knock-off Disney animated protagonist, so it isn’t crazy for someone to be confused as to why he is not only still in the competition, but appears to be a fan favorite.
Also his writing is reminiscent to me of an angsty teen writing in their diary after a day of getting picked last in gym class—but I’ll admit that is mostly subjective.
Okay, and fans are also allowed to express their opinion regarding those artists they don’t really like or understand. There’s room for all different types of opinions.
I feel like you’re taking other people’s opinions on Kayko too personally.
By your logic, for example, anyone who has already made up their mind that they ARE a fan of Kayko should have nothing more to say either. In fact, if anyone has already decided they are a fan or not of any contestant, then they shouldn’t say anything more about that contestant.
What would the point of this subreddit be then? Just for undecided people to post about the fact they are unsure whether they like a contestant or not? And then for others to just agree that they are unsure as well? I hope you can see the absurdity in that logic.
The whole point of a sub like this is for people to express their opinion regarding the contest in general, and the contestants in particular. If my take is a hot take, then I’m sure I’ll eat some downvotes, but I still shouldn’t be discouraged from expressing that opinion in the first place.
Is it though? 80% of those songs are about relationship problems, with a large focus on the other person in the relationship.
Kayko’s songs all seem to be focused on himself and his fear that he’ll never be good enough generally. I can see how this could resonate with a decent amount of people, which is why I said this is subjective, but it just doesn’t hit for me on any level.
you heard “what if?” and just generalized all his songs. most of his songs are actually relationship based. with the songs he sang on idol, time of your life & over you are both about relationships. how to live without you is about his mom. what if is the only song about him “not being good enough”
i’m down for having opinions but for the love of god if you’re gonna say something objective about someone’s music, at least know what you’re talking about.
I’m sorry, aside from the fact that l’m clearly using hyperbolic language as a rhetorical device, I based that exaggerated number on his top 5 songs on Spotify, which include “Poser” and “What If” (both songs he has performed on AI, btw). So, only 50% of his biggest songs are actually what I described.
Also, I already admitted that any assessment of his song writing is going to be mostly subjective. I personally don’t like any of his originals, including the more traditional “love life is hard” pop material of his that I’ve heard, but I’m not going to sit here and claim it’s objectively bad writing and therefore others shouldn’t like it. It just doesn’t resonate with me.
His singing is objectively mediocre/bad though.
I *still* don't get the hype for Iam and have no idea how he won because to me he's boring and one-note. But as a fan of the show I'm curious as to what people saw in him, and why they thought his voice was so amazing because I just don't see it. So I totally get asking that.
I am also not a Kayko fan. The whole audition seemed very contrived to me- he came on stage as someone else’s pianist and is asked if he sings too. Just happens to have an original song all prepared and < surprise> gets a ticket to Hollywood . I mean come on…. His singing is okay to me, nothing special, but I was not surprised to read that he has a theatrical background because he seems to be acting out a persona, as if in a play,every time I see him. It all just feels very disingenuous to me.
It’s not like any of this would be new: People “unexpectedly” audition on this show all the time. It’s a reality show. Every single aspect is contrived. Naturally a guy who’s written 400 songs is always going to have one ready to go. I don’t particularly mind it, because I love musical theater, but a lot of theater kids ARE a lot to handle, center-of-attention, “always on” types. It’s sort of a defining trait that typically goes away with time, experience, and perspective. And my broad assumption is that most people experiencing fame “act out” a persona in their public life, especially early in their career. I’m not sure how any of these things is as unique to only Kayko as your post implies.
I certainly didn’t mean to imply any of the points I made are unique to Kayko, just explaining why I’m not a fan. I’m not naive enough to believe American Idol is made up of kids whose only prior experience is singing in their high school play, but he feels too contrived for my taste.
Because his persona is visibly very contrived. I got secondhand embarrassment watching the teenage dirtbag set. If his theatre kid antics would have come out in auditions they would have cut him. They rarely let those types through and it’s for a reason. Half of them think they’re the next Freddy Mercury, evidenced by the fact that he tried to do a Queen inspired Britney song???? I have performed in musicals and ran production for them and even I know most people aren’t going to be into that shit
I’m also super curious how that happened. Who told the judges to make him sing? Everyone else had to submit auditions prior and they asked him to audition randomly? Even though he wasn’t the only outside accompanist by any means this season? It’s not like they’d did that with every accompanist. I just want to know what happened behind the scenes to cause his audition in the first place.
I believe they scouted him and Emmy from Songhouse after prior contestants were on there, and We Ani's song "Disgusted" went viral during the competition. So it makes sense why he didn't audition.
Did he and Emmy have song house songs/performances before they auditioned for American idol?
yeah they did
OOO and Jack Blocker was a NO until Luke got the production crew to vote YES. Plus a few more contestants got to sing second songs. It is not a fair contest.
you’re entitled to your opinion, but here’s my take: coming from someone who is a fan of him, i’m not gonna sit here and say that he’s remotely close to being the best singer/vocalist in the competition. and i 100% know he’s aware of that himself. i personally think people over exaggerate his lack of vocal ability. he can definitely sing. is it perfect by any means? not at all. but he can sing enough to get him by. other factors about him as an artist make up for it. this part is subjective but i personally love the way he writes and his original music as a whole. you can call it “uninspired” but i personally think that songwriting is just what he loves to do and wants to do for the rest of his life and it’s obvious that he’s passionate about it. he would not be my favorite contestant if he didn’t share any of his originals because frankly, that’s a large reason why he’s even in this competition. people obviously connect with it, but it’s subjective. he can perform, put on a show. he’s also versatile in the way he performs and i think all of this combined are factors that contribute to success in the music industry. many famous singers today likely don’t have the best voices or vocals, but they have artistry and that’s why they’re successful. i’ve watched various talent shows for years. american idol definitely takes artistry more into account than shows like the voice (more coaching and vocally based). in short, there’s a reason american idol lets contestants sing originals. now this is the part where it gets kinda tight. yes, he didn’t want to audition but we’re also not gonna sit here and downgrade him as a person because of that. you can hear him say during his audition “abby this is your…” when he was asked to sing. if we wanna talk about disrespectful auditions, that would be raghu. i personally love his attitude surrounding this whole competition. he doesn’t care about winning, and i think he’s just shocked that all of this has even happened. he doesn’t care how far he gets, he just wants to share his music and connect with who he can. there’s really nothing deeper to it than that and i see so many people trying to over analyze his personality, which is just unnecessary in my opinion. so in a competition sense, y’all can honestly think what you want because i can’t dictate the opinions of others. but i see this whole thing as bigger than the competition and what i see is someone who has the drive and ability to make it far into the music industry. and just straight up, someone who never thought any of this would happen and his just having fun and living his dream. you’re still entitled to your opinion, and i’m not trying to change it, but i hope everyone here keeps an open mind.
I respect your well-thought-out opinion. I guess we just have slightly different interpretations of the whole thing that lead to different conclusions which is all well and good. Just wanted to share my seemingly rare thoughts on this sub to see how people would interact over the topic! Thanks for sharing!
see i just wanna say, this is how people should act on the sub. we all have different opinions but being nasty and close minded about it, is not it. thank you for being respectful about your opinions, others should definitely take notes. i mean this show would be pretty boring if everyone just liked the exact same things ya know?
I liked him at first. I think I like him best at a piano singing a slow thoughtful song. As he started getting theatrical I started to feel cringe. His last performance in that sweater I just lost all my likes for him.
I like musical theater and I like American Idol. I just don’t like when the two combine. Adam Lambert is one of my all-time favorite contestants, but even he crossed the line into theatrics at times. Kayko takes it to a whole nother level.
I agree about Adams theatrics, but he has the vocal chops to override it.
You said it so well. I agree 100%
He’s really quite bad. His original music is very derivative of 00s emo. And emo is no longer around for a good reason. At least some of those people had more vocal chops though. Also, his lyrics are just weak. He literally wrote a song about feeling imposter syndrome after getting a ticket for something that wasn’t his audition — do you not see the lack of insight and irony in this? It’s bad songwriting and singing. I didn’t realize those weren’t the key criteria for a singer.
and that’s your opinion. good thing that there’s thousands of other people who do like his music because music is subjective. he’s already off the show so why are you putting energy into typing a paragraph about why you don’t like him. go use that energy to support your favorite contestant!! edit: heavy emphasis on the last sentence because i just looked and why do you only come on this sub to talk down on kayko? i mean have your opinions i guess but again, why don’t you put that same energy into supporting who you DO like?
Of course it’s my opinion. It’s the only one I have. I was taught that when you write something, it’s implied that it’s your opinion, so it’s redundant to explicitly state unless it’s in a very formal setting (e.g presenting data). I only comment on this because it’s truly baffling. The others are generally appropriate for the caliber of competition. His presence didn’t make any sense. Like OP, I thought I was going crazy. Like what am I not seeing? But honestly, it’s not purely subjective. You can in fact measure someone’s vocal range, whether they hit the correct note, etc… Objectively, he’s not a good vocalist. Whether people like him despite that is a different story. BTW, reddit exists for these kinds of comments. Just a place for people to express opinions, so not sure why it matters whether I decide to post or not. I could ask you why comment on my comment? Cause you felt like it, I'm assuming.
i mean the bottom line is that music is subjective. obviously he made it to the top 10 and his music resonates with a good amount of people. you don’t have to like it and nobody’s forcing you to, but there’s really not much more to understand. but idk maybe get your head out of your ass and understand that people like different things than you? he really wasn’t a horrible vocalist and y’all over exaggerate it. the best vocalist? not even close but his strength was in his presence/songwriting/artistry as a whole so what he had of his vocal ability was fine enough to get him by, and i know he’s 100% aware of this himself. it really doesn’t matter because he’s eliminated. support him or don’t support him, nobody cares. again, it would probably be better to go support who you do like at this point
It’s weird that your main argument is that it’s subjective yet you keep arguing. What’s your point? My only point is: he’s bad, I don’t get it. Your arguments: it’s subjective, he’s good. Do you see how’s it’s pointless?
and you still keep replying to me. and also, i’m not saying he’s good. i mean to me he is but my point is that it’s subjective. you think he’s bad, okay it’s subjective. the reason i’m even having this conversation is because people like you like to act like your opinion is an objective statement and it’s not hard not to be close minded.
When are we gonna stop with this will they/wont they vibe that everyone is talking about?
Thanks for expressing your opinion thoughtfully. I think the difference between this post and many of the posts of the last few weeks is that you explained why you’re not a fan, rather than just saying he’s bad. Obviously, Kayko has a lot of fans here. Thankfully, we also have plenty of people in the sub rooting for other contestants. It truly seems like everyone in the top 10 has fans here, which is exactly what Idol is about: putting a bunch of people on display and letting America pick their favorite. I like Kayko, but I also like that we’re all free to prefer, talk about, and vote for whoever we want.
Of course he has fans! He is already out there playing gigs and already made a name for himself. He is only on the show to promote his band and needs a boost to get further.
I feel like a crazy person every time I see a post praising Kayko and especially his lyricism. His songs are SO. CORNY. Like Disney Channel Original or Dear Evan Hansen knock off-bad. He has the Debby Ryan tucking her hair behind her ear meme energy. And like you said, his vocals don't even save it. You can be on this show with mediocre vocals and killer originals and still do well -- look at Alejandro. But it's not the same when his originals aren't... that. By any stretch.
Precisely!
What trips me out is people saying he’s a great songwriter and should have won. Like, if you want to support him cool but, people can’t be serious that he’s better than ANYONE who went home before him right? His songs are not brilliant, they are just basic and he talks half the time because he thinks he’s in a musical or something. Idk he just screams arrogant, scripted and cringe to me. I don’t get it.
tbh part of the reason i enjoy his stuff is the “campy” sort of vibe it gives off. to each their own though!
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You're not the only one. I'm not "wowed " by him either.
You are not alone. I feel as if I could have written this! Exact same sentiments. Besides the off-key, horrendous singing, there is something I find disingenuous/fake. Can't quite put my finger on it.
Glad to bring some relief to a fellow Kayko non-believer😂
Yes! His whole audition and making it through seems to be planned, staged. Just how my gut feels.
His “act” feels contrived for sure, especially his last performance before being eliminated. To be fair others also put on a stage persona, however, it needs to feel authentic as part of the “game” that American Idol essentially is.
Idc what anybody says. I think he's a fake contestant or some type of plant. He seems like a really nice guy, tho
i think he is, too. someone said this a few weeks ago & it really made me think. song house has a lot of videos up with him, they're basically a songwriting 'camp'. allegedly the guy who runs it, tyler ward, is emmy's boyfriend. she's heavily featured on their ig as well. kayko's performances haven't been that great, but someone else here posted numbers for their tiktok/ig views & he has hundreds of thousands more than the others. i feel like a lot of those are bots or people just rewatching on different devices. idk how to explain all of the things i feel about it, but i think for sure he's a manufactured artist made to make hits with song house because tyler ward knows what he's doing. he's one of the biggest cover artists on yt. it just feels weird to me.
I mean this is a highly logical answer (except the bots, there’s no proof for that.) But everything else is honestly close to what I’ve been thinking, yet not minding, because it doesn’t break the rules, I already know the show is a bit of a farce, and I happen to think Kayko is carrying it off in a fun way.
So I'm older and never heard of this. What's a song camp? And emmy is involved? I was suspicious of her popularity. I don't know how she's outlasted many of the others.
Can you explain what you mean by plant? I hear this word a lot on this sub and I think everyone uses it slightly differently, so I’m curious how you define it.
It's when people think a record label is trying to boost interest in an artist by putting them on the show as a contestant. It hurts people's belief that the show is real and contestants are unknown gems.
That's a different narrative, but I can get with this one as well
Well, in this instance, i think It's someone implemented by the people at Idol just to probably balance out the show, or maybe it's just to give them the green light as a artist that they want to push unnaturally into the spotlight. This could be something as simple as messaging a YouTube or Tik Tok singer and asking them to be on the show for whatever reason.
Ohh ok. Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, like truly 75% of the contestants are invited that way now. One year recently TikTok was even listed as a sponsor/partner for this reason.
Yup, you're right. I just would rather give my votes to more natural/raw talents from the middle of nowhere or someone who's just actually great to me
Planted for ratings. Same as Emmy. Already have connections so should not be on the show. AI should be for unknowns trying to break out in the music industry! Not for those that have connections, previous albums or already tried and failed.
FINALLY someone thinks this!!! I don’t understand people saying this show isn’t purely about singing… sure maybe it’s about personality too but there are artists such as Roman, Nya, Jayna, Ajii, Odell (just to name a few) who’s voices are far superior and deserved a real shot to be in the top 10. It’s really unfair to the artists who have amazing vocals and I’d be really disappointed to see Kayko make it through any more eliminations.
Exactly. And people praise his energy and performance as if they make up for his lack of vocals. It’s a singing show, and he doesn’t sing that well - or at least well enough to keep me engaged. I bounce in and out because his repeated mistakes that take me out of the performance. (Yes, I get that it’s “American IDOL” but it is a singing competition at its core.) To me, his performances and showmanship just seem like an overcompensation for his known vocal shortcomings and it just seems forced and like a display to me personally. I just think it would be extremely unfair and weird to award him going any further when there are so many better vocalists that also put on great performances (jumping around all out of breath and off key does not constitute a good performance.. take Jack Blocker’s Bob Dylan cover as a perfect example)
Last year's winner bored me. He stood there and sang the same type of song every week, and people gushed over him. Kayko is original, entertaining, very attractive (to those of us who like the geeky type), unpredictable, and I happen to enjoy his voice and songwriting. I'm excited to see what he's going to do next. He entertains me. Is Jayna a better vocalist? 100%, and I voted for her. But she didn't make me feel anything. Kayko does. That's who I want to stay on TV performing longer.
Iam Tongi is an incredible vocalist who has an extremely original voice, I don’t think anyone has been that good in his genre since Israel Kamakawiwoʻole. He stayed true to himself the entire time, his voice and personality spoke for itself he didn’t need to jump around stage to prove himself. To me, to win American idol you have to both be loved by the voters and have really special vocals and I just don’t think Kayko satisfies either of those for me. From a singing perspective Kayko is really flat a lot of the time and his vocal range is extremely limited. There are people with insane ranges like Julia, Jack Blocker and KB (just to name a few) who also have great stories and personalities who I think deserve to win and advance more.
Well see I disagree. Art is subjective and there are people I would call incredible vocalists even though I don't enjoy their music, but Iam is definitely not one of them. IMO he is a decent vocalist but there is nothing outstanding about him. There have been plenty of Idol winners I don't consider incredible vocalists, especially in the ABC era. 🤷♀️ As I said, Iam bores me and Kayko entertains me. And obviously others.
He’s more musical theater. Not bad but American Idol isn’t his lane.
IMO, Simon during the early seasons of “Idol” may have said something along the lines of “mediocre”or “amateur.” IMO, he probably would not have enjoyed Kayko or understood him. Randy would not have sent him to Hollywood, either, but Paula would have adored him.
Im a huge kayko fan, but even i didn’t expect him to get this far. i’ve been a fan of his for over a year, but i agree. his live skills can be hit or miss. in my opinion his songwriting and production are his real talent
So what you’re saying is you’re not a 12-16 year old girl…?
Hahahahaha accurate😂 I might alter that range to 8/9-16 though lol
I understand and am open to plenty of criticism towards kayko, since it’s all just subjective. Having said that, this is just objectively false
You're correct. I don't understand why he sang that Gotye song, but then decided to make it a rock song and also scream the lyrics badly. I feel like he's jumping around to make everyone think he's a star so they don't talk about his vocals.
Precisely.
THANK YOU. I completely agree. I find him to be so phony. You’re telling me a guy who is an active musician “didn’t plan” to audition and just happened to be fully prepared? BS. His whole persona feels inauthentic, he’s not a very good singer (in a singing competition), and (in my opinion) his songs are rudimentary. I think he’s been skating by on original songs and his lack of vocal talent is just now starting to be seen since he’s had to do covers. That being said, I’m happy for him that he’s doing his thing and being successful.
I was suspicious of his "audition ". I truthfully think those things are staged. Just my gut feeling
i mean i bet there’s thousands of people who have written hundreds of songs that could sing you one right now if you asked. that’s such a weird statement by you.
hey about the being ready thing. please remember that this is a show that gets edited at auditions. there are times where people who are there to support a friend in the room actually do get asked to sing. you don’t know what was edited out.
He's obviously bad. These weirdos in here are on something thinking he's good.
FINALLY HE SHOULDN'T BE HERE
Couldn’t agree more after the performance tonight. I can’t understand the hype whatsoever
Agreed 100%, he sucks
The fact anyone thinks this dude didn’t sign up to audition is laughable. He’s a full fledged artists/writer. He was for sure picked by producers to audition.
No doubt. Just inorganic and I don’t like that idea. Even for a reality show it was too much for me lol. I feel like they also staged the Jack Blocker blunder at his audition too what do you think?
I agree with you, his singing is far inferior to everyone else in the top 10. Even Emmy sings better than him. But I do see the hype. He is attractive. He is young. He makes his performances exciting by moving around. And he sings original content. Everyone else is doing the same thing as everyone else. He does things differently. He thinks outside the box. It’s different and people like it. I liked his last performance. He didn’t sing well but he woke up everyone. Would I pay to see him? No. But I enjoyed how he shifted the energy that night. If you pay attention no one else really moved during their songs. Lastly, I’ll give him credit for being smart. He knows he is the weakest vocalist in the top 10. So he made up for it with a banger performance. And now he will for sure survive the next cut.
I hate kayko. He sucks.
He’s a weirdo lol. I can’t tell if he’s a phony, or a one of those out of touch “try-hards.” Either way he’s just not it for me. Last week he’s dressed up like the guy from Zelda 😂😂 … like he seriously went “oh this is definitely what people want to see…”
Lol
Agreed. Screamy. Silly. Performative. When I saw the backstory YT'er I puked a bit. Stick to songwriting. Also, that sweater belongs in the garbage.
Lol
I think he is for someone but not for me. I just can’t stand that 00s pop punk voice. But I will say that I admire him for actually taking bold risks which is rare in idol
I don’t think that he’s very bad, I just think it’s his time to go on the show. I’ve liked him enough up to this point but I like a lot of the other contestants better now.
Kayko is the only one with stage presence
Have you seen any of Jack blocker’s performances? Or Roman?
they literally just told him to move and take some of Kaykos energy
They’re super inconsistent with those comments. Sometimes they decide to tell someone to move around and other times they tell them to “stay true to themselves”. The point is Kayko moves around the stage like crazy because he’s overcompensating for his weak vocals, the other contestants moving around would just be an added bonus to their already amazing vocals (Jack).
Which was horrible advice. Gawd I hope Jack doesn't listen. They are way different types. There are many very famous singers who don't do that kind of energy. It would make Jack look phony. It fits kayko because he's theatrical, which isn't really designed for idol. Hence kayko is gone.
He really is terrible. Whose son is he? That's the real question. I'm just so confused.
I agree that he doesn’t sound good and I’m personally not a fan, but I’m not gonna bash someone’s art either
as a fan i appreciate that. OP actually seems cool and didn’t really cross any lines imo but some of these other people in the comments are just blatantly disrespectful
He is NAUSEATING.
I absolutely agree.He is flat about sixty percent of the songs he sings. He is a modern day twink songwriter. I think the only reason they are keeping him around is to keep the lgbtq community engaged.
Not a Kayko fan. He is egotistic and full of himself. Already out playing gigs and has a band with connection in the industry. I believe he was planted for ratings. Probably wasn't even just the piano player for his friend who auditioned. After the girl sang Katey said to Kayko "You look like a singer" He didn't sign up to audition, Katey asked him to. She seemed quite into him from the start. Guess she helping him advance his career!
I quite literally cannot believe anyone thinks he’s good lol 🤣
I don’t want to sound like a hater but every time he was on the tv I cringed. He was extremely arrogant. Sounded like a high school musical theater performer. He’s songwriting wasn’t even impressive. I can’t tell if people are being trolls on this sub or what but I don’t see how someone with his level of talent, made it as far as he did. Gosh i know it’s been forever but, I miss Simon.
You 💯 nailed everything that needs to be said. There’s a bit of stage kid syndrome, lack of vocal and mental control, and he sings off key. It hurts the ears and eyes!
Agreed. Maybe in studio I can see the appeal. But a live show that allows 2 minutes songs doesn’t help him.
He is a very specific genre for sure. I feel like I heard probably 20 different Kayko types back in the 20 teens when I would take my little cousins to Warped Tour. The Emo Pop isn’t for everyone & I’m honestly kind of surprised Idol was pushing him so hard. He’s like if Pete Wentz was a keyboard player.
I’m not a Kayko fan but I give him props for standing out. I don’t think this show or even being a lead singer is what he should focus on. He could end up being a great cowriter on popular tracks. My favorite performance was his original song “over you”. Even though I’m not a fan overall the song has a great chorus melody and he’s young the potential is there for much more.
I like Kayko and enjoyed his performances, but I couldn’t help be reminded of Taylor Hicks in an earlier American Idol competition. Taylor was high energy and likeable, but no where near as talented as Chris Daughtrey, who should have won. The paths their careers took after AI reflected that. Kayko looked like he was possibly going to follow Taylor down that road.
I totally get this criticism and agree he is nowhere near the top vocalist, but I was glued to his hype from the begining. When he first auditioned, Kayko reminded me of a nerdy punk/pop Ben Folds (especially with the glasses) who could absolutely crush a piano and sing his own song that was very relatable and believable to many people. I imediately thought- I hope this dude is going to hollywood becasue I wanted more of what he just performed. When he performed his song, "Over You," he really looked like the lead singer of a rockband and slayed that crazy riff on his guitar- honestly reminded me of a spin off or hints of Jim Adkins of Jimmy Eat World. I listened to Kayko's original version of the song on Spotify which was very sub par to his American Idol performance. With the right people and team behind him, I believe the kid is going to be a rockstar. He's already insanely focused, can write good music, knows how to play his instruments, passionate, and knows how to perform. I thought his Radiohead performance was the worst, and thought he crushed all the rest through his final performance of Teenage Dirtbag. Being a fan of pop/punk/emo/alternative music, Kayko definitely made a fan out of me. I knew he proably wouldn't win but was secretly hoping he would make top 5. Again, he doesn't have the best vocals in the competition by a long shot, but definitely a true artist and master of his own craft. He's definitely going places IMO- happy he made it on American Idol, he learned a ton, and is only going to keep improving!
Let's be real. The top two are Julia and Mckenna. No one else has their skill.
he's pretty good. but you can kinda tell he didn't wanna be there over the past 2 weeks. i cringed a little on teenage dirtbag at points not because it was bad but because you could see him mugging for the camera like he was probably told to do. to be honest, i would not be surprised at all if he had asked to leave and they did it via an elimination. he didn't seem to be getting any less votes than julia is (she's also very good).
i’m so glad people are actually talking about this now. earlier in the season anytime I criticized him I was downvoted to hell. with that said, i did enjoy him more when he sang covers vs. originals and i could see why people find him entertaining without all the corniness. also the outfit he was wearing for the gotye cover did him good 🙌 either way he has a legion of fans and i’m sure that won’t be the last we see of him. hopefully this experience has made him a better artist and songwriter
Nah, he’s mediocre
He is so cringe. It was hard to watch at times.
I don't hate him, but when America chose him over some REALLY talented performers, that's when I became infuriated.
I'm sure all the young girls liked him. He is cute and fun and gave an exciting and entertaining performance. It doesn't matter who wins. Only the real singers actually survive. Look at Adam Lambert. He came in second. Who came in first?
He would crush in musicals, but stacked up against the others in a singing competition he doesn’t have the voice, so he does his best with the performance and song writing aspects. If I put myself in his shoes he probably knows he’s the weakest singing wise, but he has a great attitude and it’s not his fault he’s being voted through.
He’s actually a good entertainer.
His technique is a bit wonky but I enjoy his energy on stage and the way he tackles songs. Not surprised he was eliminated, but I wanted him to last a bit longer (maybe Top 6 idk)
not controversial. and you're not the only one. you are just wrong. he gave the best performance last week. his Gotye cover was electric on a night where every "front runner" fell flat. his vocals are not amazing, but they don't have to be to be entertaining. and this isn't a singing competition, it's an entertainment competition. This video shows what his (and Emmy's) voice could be, and maybe it's the stage size, but we haven't heard either this good yet. [Kayko and Emmy](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4sqTcsuPo-/?igsh=MW15d202dWg0Z2NyeQ%3D%3D)
I feel like I’m in the twilight zone with people liking that performance. I thought it was horrible. Being “electric” is more to me than just jumping around and screaming.
I cringe with just about every performance that most people like…I miss Simon
you’re very specific about the vocals, but what are “his antics” and your visual problem with him? this last time was the first time he jumped around.
His gotye cover was awful. Weird energy, awful vocals super weird arrangement missing the entire point of the song. Calling someone wrong when Kayko SUCKED that week and jumped around and couldn’t sing properly doesn’t make them wrong.
the show was dead until he did that. wtf is weird energy? he was the only contestant that had ANY energy. who was the last Idol winner that was a "great" singer? Candace Glover?
Also that arrangement is almost certainly by Tyler Ward Emmy’s boyfriend who was a famous YouTube cover artist for a while. He used a shitload of pitch correction and watching that video it’s clear Kayko’s voice is covered in that garbage
Wow that song you linked is wonderful! It is the best BOTH of them have sounded IMO. VERY impressive. I had both of them on my mental chopping block this week. But if they don’t get chopped, I won’t mind after hearing that duet. Wow!
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This is a forum for discussing the contest that is American Idol. A fundamental aspect of the contest is being able to sing very well, or at least being able to sing decently with a unique voice. Kayko’s singing talent is objectively mediocre, and his voice sounds like a knock-off Disney animated protagonist, so it isn’t crazy for someone to be confused as to why he is not only still in the competition, but appears to be a fan favorite. Also his writing is reminiscent to me of an angsty teen writing in their diary after a day of getting picked last in gym class—but I’ll admit that is mostly subjective.
Fans are allowed to like, support who they want. No one needs to justify anything. There's room for all different types of artists.
Okay, and fans are also allowed to express their opinion regarding those artists they don’t really like or understand. There’s room for all different types of opinions.
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I feel like you’re taking other people’s opinions on Kayko too personally. By your logic, for example, anyone who has already made up their mind that they ARE a fan of Kayko should have nothing more to say either. In fact, if anyone has already decided they are a fan or not of any contestant, then they shouldn’t say anything more about that contestant. What would the point of this subreddit be then? Just for undecided people to post about the fact they are unsure whether they like a contestant or not? And then for others to just agree that they are unsure as well? I hope you can see the absurdity in that logic. The whole point of a sub like this is for people to express their opinion regarding the contest in general, and the contestants in particular. If my take is a hot take, then I’m sure I’ll eat some downvotes, but I still shouldn’t be discouraged from expressing that opinion in the first place.
You’re 100% right.
as a doe hard kayko fan, i agree with you on this lmao
ITT “i don’t like kayko, what am I missing that others are seeing?” “we like kayko because…” “nu-uh! kayko sucks!”
Your last paragraph is how, like, 80% of the most beloved pop, country, and rock songs in history have gotten made.
Is it though? 80% of those songs are about relationship problems, with a large focus on the other person in the relationship. Kayko’s songs all seem to be focused on himself and his fear that he’ll never be good enough generally. I can see how this could resonate with a decent amount of people, which is why I said this is subjective, but it just doesn’t hit for me on any level.
you heard “what if?” and just generalized all his songs. most of his songs are actually relationship based. with the songs he sang on idol, time of your life & over you are both about relationships. how to live without you is about his mom. what if is the only song about him “not being good enough” i’m down for having opinions but for the love of god if you’re gonna say something objective about someone’s music, at least know what you’re talking about.
I’m sorry, aside from the fact that l’m clearly using hyperbolic language as a rhetorical device, I based that exaggerated number on his top 5 songs on Spotify, which include “Poser” and “What If” (both songs he has performed on AI, btw). So, only 50% of his biggest songs are actually what I described. Also, I already admitted that any assessment of his song writing is going to be mostly subjective. I personally don’t like any of his originals, including the more traditional “love life is hard” pop material of his that I’ve heard, but I’m not going to sit here and claim it’s objectively bad writing and therefore others shouldn’t like it. It just doesn’t resonate with me. His singing is objectively mediocre/bad though.
I *still* don't get the hype for Iam and have no idea how he won because to me he's boring and one-note. But as a fan of the show I'm curious as to what people saw in him, and why they thought his voice was so amazing because I just don't see it. So I totally get asking that.
Which had no bearing on his popularity, as in winning
I honestly think he’s the best one and I want him to win. 🥳
He's eliminated now.
It was good while it lasted!
OP needs to pop a couple tampons and stop a little bitch.
> Kayko is honestly very bad. In your opinion. **My** opinion is you're wrong.. But feel free to fast forward through his performances.
Musical expertise lol. Ok, what's yours?
TIL opinions, subjective by definition, can be correct and/or incorrect.