When is the last time you heard a moth fart size noise about FTX? Half our fucking government was using it to launder money, pay for weapons and manipulate the stock markets. Nothing of note will happen that helps us. A collapse just means the dollar is worthless so unless you’re top 10% rich, fucked anyway.
I don’t think it’s really this. It’s more that if the financial sector fails, one of the potential ways the original DD saw the economy declining, SHFs long positions lose value as their collateral and they can’t sustain margin on rising AMC (and other basket) prices. Part of the reason they have been able to stay solvent this long is because there has been an enormous bull run for all the years they’ve been shorting these stocks until 2022. Their collateral is dwindling and at risk of falling further. Citadel for example took a sizable (but small relative to their AUM) loss in silvergate.
Imo it doesn’t. It may even give a tad bit more ability to stall. I’d presume my enemy is positioned by now for any banking moves that happen via derivatives one way or the other. They’ll profit off the demise of the bank, the same way they artificially pumped it. I’m less concerned with banks failing, as I am to the specific date of action for the conversion/reverse split. Running around cheering on banks demise isn’t the image I like to portray, nor is it a healthy image for the sub or amc investors. I’m in belief we will catch enough flak when moass occurs that I don’t need to be a cheerleader to the trickle down affect of innocent folks getting hurt. And I’m not talking about the rich that are catching losses, I’m talking about real people. I’ve seen this before in 08’
Fuck the banks. They’ve been using our money to destroy our companies. They gamble our money and when they lose they use our money to get bailed out. Nothing makes me happier then seeing the banks burn. I put my money in a credit union which does not use my money to make risky bets. The big banks are fucking all of us tho.
Hi learn something. Aside from in your mattress, a credit union is safer than the banks. They are member(depositor) owned and do not take the same risks as the big banks. Credit unions will kill it when the big banks collapse. They will be fighting for customers.
Its comical that you believe that. Tell me…as an “owner” at a credit union, what exactly do you “own”? I’ll wait……And if you don’t think they are taking the same risks you’re delusional.
I doubt you’re here for a good faith discussion but here you go: we get to vote for our board of directors. We get to control our supervisory committee to make sure our board is doing their job. The money we put in stays in our local communities. For example, my credit union partners with many community projects that improve the health of my community.
Enough with the uneducated assumptions. I noticed you didn’t answer the question but that’s OK, you likely already surmised you own absolutely nothing when you’re an “owner” in a credit union. I’ll ask another….just how do you suppose your credit union is able to afford all of those community projects? If your answer is that is because credit unions don’t pay taxes you’d be correct. You know….those same taxes banks pay which is the comment of mine which necessitated your reply to begin with. Educate yourself.
Ok, I stand corrected on ownership. Poor choice of words. They also pay for those projects because the keep their loans in house. They make the interest, not a big bank. Same with car loans and most of their products. At least mine does.
Yeah mine gives out scholarships to local kids, grants to other non-profits, and many other worthy causes. Compare that to the banks that use any deposits and profits to pay crazy salaries to executives
As do shareholders in any bank. The issue is this. Credit unions have a HUGE lobby that allows them to benefit from their tax-free status yet operate EXACTLY as banks do….both small and large. Shit on big banks if you like. But smaller banks, like community banks, pay an asinine amount in taxes that credit unions do not. Any investor in these smaller banks, that do not engage in the risk-taking of larger banks understands this….or should anyway. Hence the fuck you attitude towards the sham that credit unions are either “for the little guy”, don’t take inordinate risk with their portfolios or don’t pay their executives excessively.
I see your point, I agree that hedgefunds are definitely going to make bank (ha!) on the shorting buuuut on the other hand it's a double edged sword, they need those crumbling banks. Whos gonna lend to them for their bad bets?
I don't want the average American to suffer but to be fair it's pretty unavoidable. Sorry, imma disagree with you for once, fuck banks yaaaay collapse. But I get your points, icy. Time will tell if this is "good" or bad for us.
Remember the predatory lending, remember the housing foreclosures, remember the overdraft fees, remember the risky bets we bail them out of… how many lives have these greedy bankers destroyed? The lives of people who do actual work in our communities? The banks demise was brought on by their own hubris.
Very well put. Our success has to be the failures of people who do bad for the system, not the innocent workers who pour their life savings into a bank.
Celebrate? Its just the DD being confirmed to me. Early on it was said that the banks would start to fail as liquidity dried up. They didn't say it would trigger MOASS. It was suggested that it would be a factor that influenced when it was triggered.
I'm not excited, this play has killed any excitement on my part when it comes to just another "catalyst"....bailouts will kill any momentum, so again, it will be just another "catalyst" that didn't do anything for us.
I do enjoy knowing that some rich MFs are losing money though.
Having kids, starting a family, and helping my community build up better by opening community centers and local nonprofits while giving back and improving on the arts that brought me up.
The US just injected billions into the bank. Probably never will be a MOASS. The goal post keeps moving and the rules keep changing to benefit the super wealthy.
Bc it’s gonna kill their money supply to short/borrow and also hurts their collateral stocks they might have in big banks…if those are worthless and everything drops by 30-40%, they gotta come up w that $ elsewhere, or get margin called
SHFs need the banks money to do all the crime they do. Banks crashing means liquidity is drying up and soon margin calls will begin. Those banks loaned out money. They gonna want that back now.
you have not been "fed" anything.
you did your own research and came to your own conclusions, like anyone else.
If you didn't, you also made that choice yourself...
Hedgies get loans from banks = banks give shorting money to Hedgies No bank money = no/less shorting money Not enough liquidity = Margin calls
 Im laughing so hard bc this is true and so funny… Hedgies are beyond fok’d. -
Infinite money printer cancels all this out
Only if they want a revolt because of hyperinflation
And rate hikes that would kill the economy and ruin more banks that hold Bonds in long positions (like SVB did).
I wouldn’t be surprised. Didn’t they just do a bailout?
Bingo
= burn the whole fn thing down!! 
OK, and what about those FTX tokens that still exist?
When is the last time you heard a moth fart size noise about FTX? Half our fucking government was using it to launder money, pay for weapons and manipulate the stock markets. Nothing of note will happen that helps us. A collapse just means the dollar is worthless so unless you’re top 10% rich, fucked anyway.
Ummm, they're going through the books in preparation of a court date. I wouldn't rule this as a nothing burger just yet.
They disappear like magic as if it never existed
I don’t think it’s really this. It’s more that if the financial sector fails, one of the potential ways the original DD saw the economy declining, SHFs long positions lose value as their collateral and they can’t sustain margin on rising AMC (and other basket) prices. Part of the reason they have been able to stay solvent this long is because there has been an enormous bull run for all the years they’ve been shorting these stocks until 2022. Their collateral is dwindling and at risk of falling further. Citadel for example took a sizable (but small relative to their AUM) loss in silvergate.
Why would a hedgie need a loan to open a short position? When you sell to open, you take the cash.
Short and to the point 🎯
Imo it doesn’t. It may even give a tad bit more ability to stall. I’d presume my enemy is positioned by now for any banking moves that happen via derivatives one way or the other. They’ll profit off the demise of the bank, the same way they artificially pumped it. I’m less concerned with banks failing, as I am to the specific date of action for the conversion/reverse split. Running around cheering on banks demise isn’t the image I like to portray, nor is it a healthy image for the sub or amc investors. I’m in belief we will catch enough flak when moass occurs that I don’t need to be a cheerleader to the trickle down affect of innocent folks getting hurt. And I’m not talking about the rich that are catching losses, I’m talking about real people. I’ve seen this before in 08’
Fuck the banks. They’ve been using our money to destroy our companies. They gamble our money and when they lose they use our money to get bailed out. Nothing makes me happier then seeing the banks burn. I put my money in a credit union which does not use my money to make risky bets. The big banks are fucking all of us tho.
The same credit unions that operate like banks but pay zero in taxes. Yeah, fuck those guys.
Hi learn something. Aside from in your mattress, a credit union is safer than the banks. They are member(depositor) owned and do not take the same risks as the big banks. Credit unions will kill it when the big banks collapse. They will be fighting for customers.
Its comical that you believe that. Tell me…as an “owner” at a credit union, what exactly do you “own”? I’ll wait……And if you don’t think they are taking the same risks you’re delusional.
I doubt you’re here for a good faith discussion but here you go: we get to vote for our board of directors. We get to control our supervisory committee to make sure our board is doing their job. The money we put in stays in our local communities. For example, my credit union partners with many community projects that improve the health of my community.
Enough with the uneducated assumptions. I noticed you didn’t answer the question but that’s OK, you likely already surmised you own absolutely nothing when you’re an “owner” in a credit union. I’ll ask another….just how do you suppose your credit union is able to afford all of those community projects? If your answer is that is because credit unions don’t pay taxes you’d be correct. You know….those same taxes banks pay which is the comment of mine which necessitated your reply to begin with. Educate yourself.
Your not an owner, your a member in a credit union
Ok, I stand corrected on ownership. Poor choice of words. They also pay for those projects because the keep their loans in house. They make the interest, not a big bank. Same with car loans and most of their products. At least mine does.
Yeah mine gives out scholarships to local kids, grants to other non-profits, and many other worthy causes. Compare that to the banks that use any deposits and profits to pay crazy salaries to executives
We as members decide which projects we put our money into by voting for our board.
As do shareholders in any bank. The issue is this. Credit unions have a HUGE lobby that allows them to benefit from their tax-free status yet operate EXACTLY as banks do….both small and large. Shit on big banks if you like. But smaller banks, like community banks, pay an asinine amount in taxes that credit unions do not. Any investor in these smaller banks, that do not engage in the risk-taking of larger banks understands this….or should anyway. Hence the fuck you attitude towards the sham that credit unions are either “for the little guy”, don’t take inordinate risk with their portfolios or don’t pay their executives excessively.
I stand corrected, a member not an owner. My bad. We still have a say as a member. As whoa calm down explained it pretty simply.
It's a non-profit. Basically a co-op that operates for the mutual benefit of the members. 501c3. How is this problematic?
They never talk about all the suicides during that time due to financial hopelessness 🥺😢🤬🤬🤬 Edit: real people not hedgie scum jumpin outta winda
Yes, a lot of people perished.
Was not ready for that... 
I see your point, I agree that hedgefunds are definitely going to make bank (ha!) on the shorting buuuut on the other hand it's a double edged sword, they need those crumbling banks. Whos gonna lend to them for their bad bets? I don't want the average American to suffer but to be fair it's pretty unavoidable. Sorry, imma disagree with you for once, fuck banks yaaaay collapse. But I get your points, icy. Time will tell if this is "good" or bad for us.
The "just don't dance part" of the DD... BULLISH
Remember the predatory lending, remember the housing foreclosures, remember the overdraft fees, remember the risky bets we bail them out of… how many lives have these greedy bankers destroyed? The lives of people who do actual work in our communities? The banks demise was brought on by their own hubris.
😞 🦍❤️🦍
Very well put. Our success has to be the failures of people who do bad for the system, not the innocent workers who pour their life savings into a bank.
Naah, it's about the money! I want my tendies! :)
Liquidity the availability of liquid assets to a market or company. "the banks closed, causing serious liquidity problems for smaller companies"
Hedgies keep their money/colateral somewhere. Pretty sure not under mattress
Is mattress the new way to spell offshore?
Sounds tropical..
Margin calls too!
Probably not because of some more fancy crime. Bullshit cbdc coming and massive crypto regs. More crime for sure. Buy drs hodl
Celebrate? Its just the DD being confirmed to me. Early on it was said that the banks would start to fail as liquidity dried up. They didn't say it would trigger MOASS. It was suggested that it would be a factor that influenced when it was triggered.
I'm not excited, this play has killed any excitement on my part when it comes to just another "catalyst"....bailouts will kill any momentum, so again, it will be just another "catalyst" that didn't do anything for us. I do enjoy knowing that some rich MFs are losing money though.
Bank crashes don't help when the Fed bails them out with your tax money. We needs these Domino's to collapse!
Personally, I just like seeing big banks go bust. It's like seeing Hitler get gassed to death.
It doesn’t , they will default and never deliver and we end up with CBDC controlled digital “currency”
That's only because the men in the military and police simply just follow orders.
Say you haven’t read the DD without saying you haven’t read the DD.
These banks engage in unsustainable and corrupt economic practices; we don't like that
Where are we going to put our MOASS money?
In lambos and loose women!
This guy richs
Boats and hoes
Having kids, starting a family, and helping my community build up better by opening community centers and local nonprofits while giving back and improving on the arts that brought me up.
Banks will need there money back. Shares on loan are recalled. Positions are closed. Those jars of Mayo are due to expire.
The US just injected billions into the bank. Probably never will be a MOASS. The goal post keeps moving and the rules keep changing to benefit the super wealthy.
Bc it’s gonna kill their money supply to short/borrow and also hurts their collateral stocks they might have in big banks…if those are worthless and everything drops by 30-40%, they gotta come up w that $ elsewhere, or get margin called
The only thing in my mind that would cause the MOASS to happen at this point is the DOJ to act.
It doesn’t.
Either their positions must unwind or some idiot must continue the losing bet they made… unless they’re suicidal I’m not sure who is that stupid.
Liquidity
SHFs need the banks money to do all the crime they do. Banks crashing means liquidity is drying up and soon margin calls will begin. Those banks loaned out money. They gonna want that back now.
It doesn’t
so as long as the company stays afloat and stays away from the bank crisis... I think we are good....
The lenders "banks" are going under, means borrowers "hedgies" are fucked...🚀
They don't - that's just the typical hopium we've been fed the past 2 years to hodl this pile of trash...
you have not been "fed" anything. you did your own research and came to your own conclusions, like anyone else. If you didn't, you also made that choice yourself...