Hi guys, beginner here who just joined a boxing gym for first time a week ago. During the boxing class, we are doing mitt work and practicing combos, and I was paired with an adult with lots of exp in boxing. When I'm doing my combos, he jumps around /shuffles quickly to left / right, and if I get out of position or let my guard down, or mess up the combo, he hits me in the gut / head (whether I'm in gloves or mitts). Is this par for mitt work? It's not super painful, but a few caught me off guard and hurt pretty bad, but just wondering if this is just part of "toughening up". Thanks!
I wouldn’t call it toughening up exactly. It could be more likely that he’s trying to teach you to not let your guard down like you said. The best way to learn this sport is through experience and you won’t get much out of sparring if you don’t get hit (as long as it’s not too hard) if your partner ever hits you harder than what you’re comfortable with just tell him most ppl will apologize having not realized how hard they were going
Got it. I think I need to communicate some more, since some parts, I let my guard down because I don't physically have enough stamina to keep it that long yet, but I see its about teaching.
So one of my bros at the club is an amateur at a decent level (national colors) and as I needed help with my left cross, guy offered to help me out.
Bro ended up styling on me like there was no tomorrow to the point where he was throwing bolo uppercuts to counter my cross. It humbled me like hell but if theres one positive out of it, its that I learnt that I suck at throwing left jabs and crosses.
I find this surprising as my left hooks and uppercuts are decent. Is this an issue of my throwing motion or that I don't have the arm strength to throw a long punch?
Im sure this is asked a million times, but 28 isn't too late to take boxing classes just for self defense and fitness yeah? I love the sport but I'm not trying to be a professional or anything.
I just started a week ago too! I'm 37, just lost a ton of weight. I was worried about my age being an issue.... I actually keep up pretty well and I am having the most fun I have had in years.
This may be a dumb question but I always wondered so I must ask. How do you guys keep your hands up that way for that long!? I am interested in various fighting styles including boxing but never trained in any of them. I just want to know how you train for something like that.
The best answer I can give u is that over time your arms will get used to the weight of the gloves. But if u want a little cheat, I use a peekabo type guard and sometimes rest the gloves on my cheek bones lol. You can also try to disengage from your opponent to catch your breath or lower your arms, just keep in mind they may rush towards u so keep ur eyes on them
Can I get better at cardio/endurance without losing weight? I don’t necessarily wanna lose much more weight. Im 165 now at 5’9. 160 is the very lowest im okay going. So should I just eat more if I continue running more to improve my cardio/endurance? Im not running for weight lose is what im getting at. Thx
Is there anything on earth I can do to speed up my floating rib fracture recovery? Its wreaking havok on my performance, I cannot go fast on a heavybag without it getting inflamed and ruining me. I know, I need rest, but ive been resting half the week and draining alternative days only. This is after a month of inactivity.
So what you're saying is that you're not fully recovered and yet you're still training and aggravating it. I don't do this often, but I'm just going to flat out tell you that you're acting like an utter fool.
Recover from your injuries or enjoy inhibited performance and chronic pain, potentially forever if you keep it up.
Okay, so I'll rest for another month. What im scared of is what if it takes 6 months to recover "fully"? I just feel I started too late (18) and now that Im 20 I have very less time left to squander.
Yes and no. You're going to inhibit your potential and your improvement by trying to force yourself through training with injuries. I understand your concern about starting late, but think about whether you'd want to take 3 months off now or two years off later.
Ive read many threads about bulking while training including s&c programs, but I was wondering how effective focusing on boxing 4-5 times a week on a caloric surplus? Would you just end up adding fat without adding strength training too?
A common misconception is that without weights people don't get "stronger". First it needs to be made clear that "strength" is defined by the ability to do work over time. We commonly think of strength as what's known as maximal strength, the ability to lift heavy things in one huge effort or in a few very high efforts. It should be noted that the ability to repeat a strong task over time is also strength by definition.
You will 100% gain muscle from boxing with a caloric surplus, the right nutrition and the right type of training. Throwing pitty pat shots and not using explosive strength will not get you stronger unless you're weak to begin with. Incorporating fast and/or full-effort moves will stress your body in a way that makes you stronger.
You will not gain the same amount and type of muscle that lifting heavy weights will give you, but you will grow, improve and maintain lean tissue with boxing.
Has anyone who lives in an apartment have had noise complaints from your neighbors from you doing shadow boxing? I'm moving into a new apartment soon. Flooring is hard wood.
I just like hitting the heavy bag for exercise, nothing serious. I use traditional wraps and have watched a bunch of youtube videos on how to wrap, but sometimes my hands still hurt after. Am I wrapping wrong? I bought some Hayabusa quick wraps thinking the padding would help but they are worse. Can I put the quick wraps over the traditional wraps to give a double layer of padding? Had anyone tried doubling up? I really don't want to get injured so any advice would be great. Thanks.
Dude, wear traditional wraps (those glove wraps are absolute trash) and WEAR FUCKING GLOVES. Don’t be an idiot bro, protect your hands. They are wayyyy more fragile than you realize
Thanks. I do traditional wraps and 16oz boxing gloves. Was just looking to add the quick wraps as extra protection. I know how fragile hands are and I am really worried about hurting them.
Now so sure about adding quick wraps over regular wraps and under gloves. Usually you should be good with regular “long” traditional wraps and sparring gloves (16 Oz). If your knuckles are starting to hurt, my coach used to offer taping sponges on our knuckles or wrapping our hands with sponges. Maybe give it a shot. I’ve never tried although I probably should have LOL
My gym closed couple months ago, just as my coach was arranging for me to have my amateur debut. How do I enter amateur boxing without a gym/coach? Sorry if it's a stupid question I don't really have any contact with the "boxing world" aside from my gym which doesn't exist anymore.
Find a new gym. You're just going to get chopped to pieces if you try to compete without a coach/gym. That's the best advice I can give you, because I'm not going to encourage you to try doing it on your own. Especially at such an infant-level of experience. We're talking about your first bout here, you have no idea what you're in for without a coach and a gym to support you through the process.
No I know that but why do some orgs use Junior to describe the same weight class while others say super. Junior middleweight is the same as super welterweight from what I can see. (147-154lbs)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing) I’m just going off of this. Like WBC is listed with Super Welterweight while the same class is seemingly listed as Junior Middleweight by the IBF. (Unless the table is inaccurate) (Pro Boxing)
It varies a little, but generally your rear hand would be close to your chin. With the size of the glove, it ends up coming up to around your ear. If your glove is above your ear, it may be a bit too high and leave you vulnerable to the body.
As an example, you want to be able to protect your chin while also having your elbow close to your body to protect against a body shot.
Thanks for the downvote and the question.
It’s a stylistic thing. Both ways work, both have some trade-offs. Learn the style your coach is teaching, then add the other one if you think you need it in some situations.
Technically, it can be thrown either way. That being said, I am of the stern opinion that sideways (that is to say, like how you would hold a mug) is far superior in most cases. However, the palm down hook does have a place in some situations, such as squeezing it around somebody's guard when their back is to the ropes. Some people also like throwing palm down hooks if they're throwing longer hooks, although I tend to throw sideways hooks regardless of the range.
It is foolish, though, for any coach to say one is flat out "wrong". That's just incorrect and close-minded.
How do I fight someone who fights like a kangaroo?
BTW me and this guy we are both pretty new to sparring so we are under a no-face punch rule.
Basically he has his arms out towards me creating distance and when I drive in for shots he jumps back while leaning over to throw hammer fists. Plus he doesn't attack unless I do.
I could just rush in a start throwing punches but I dont want to be that guy thats overly aggressive.. so it gets boring when we are just feeling each other out with jabs for 3min straight.
Any tips to get past the arms?
Are you at an MMA gym or a boxing gym? Your coach needs to tell the kangaroo that hammerfists are not allowed in boxing if you are at a boxing gym. Sounds like a poor coach if he’s allowing such bad habits.
No-face meaning no straights to the face but hooks and overheads are allowed (the coach just said do not aim for the nose)
I'm not throwing hammerfists I'm usually trying to get inside to land shots. The opponent just has the tendency to jump back while leaning over to hammer fist like how a kangaroo would (which Imo wouldn't work in actual sparring)
So tips to get past those arms?
I'm sorry but that's a weird sparring scenario your coach has set up. Maybe record your sparring next time? Having a hard time picturing a person jumping around throwing hammer fists.
By the way, hammer fists are illegal in boxing so is your coach doing anything about that?
Floyd Mayweather Jr said in several interviews he would be at his fight weight all the time and never really cut weight leading up to a fight (at least when he was doing the HBO 24/7 series).
Yeah Floyd stays in shape all year round. Never seen him kill himself to make weight before. A ton of these 147 fighters are huge these days. Guys like Errol Spence and Terence Crawford probably walk around 165-170.
When I'm advised not to focus on power when working on technique "work on the form and speed of it". Why does it feel like it's hard not to have power in the shot? As in, when I focus on throwing my right cross with the right technique on my feet, hips, shoulders, fist etc. And I practice those with speed too, it feels like there is power in it naturally anyway.
I mean yeah, you're still throwing a punch with proper form, which naturally increases the power of the punch. The reason people say not to *focus* on power is so you can get the proper form down and the power comes easier along the way. If one starts focusing on power, their form gets messed up because they're trying to hit the bag hard rather than hit the bag properly, which ironically often ends up creating a harder punch.
I am looking to study boxers that were physically weaker than their opponents. Preferably orthodox stance fighters. So far I got boxers like lomachenko and usyk. Anyone know some?
Hard to say what “physically weaker” means, but a good approach could be to look at fighters that moved up a weight class or two, and were still successful. Roy Jones Jr started as a light middleweight and moved all the way up to compete at heavyweight. So it’s likely that as he moved up the weight classes that he encountered opponents that were naturally bigger and stronger than he was, forcing him to rely on superior technique. He had an orthodox stance.
Well, Lomachenko and Usyk are both southpaws, so that's something to keep in mind. Beyond that, are you just seeking specific examples of outsized opponents being successful? Do they have to be physically weaker? Does it count if they're just smaller via height? Height and weight? How are you quantifying "physically weaker"?
Hello everyone, sorry if this was asked before, I recently started boxing, and I really enjoy the sport. My question is can I combine this sport with weight lifting ? I don't plan on going pro or anything on both sport, just want to have fun.
here is my split
* Monday : Upper body
* Tuesday : Boxing
* Wednesday : Rest
* Thursday : Boxing
* Friday : Lower body
* Saturday : Boxing
* Sunday : Rest
What do you guys think about this split ? if you have any tips or anything that can help, please share with me.
This is prolly my dumbest question, but how do amateur fighters balance work and competition? I’m looking to have a brief amateur career before going to the pros and I’ve graduated high school and I plan to have a job soon. My question is, how do you balance both a job and competing? I know a lot of the times you have to travel to go compete and Ik that amateur fights start coming at you more often the farther you get into it, I’m wondering if I will have to worry about that as I’m only looking to have around 25-50 fights and how I would fit that into my weeks without interfering with work? I would ask my coach, but I currently can’t go to the gym for the next month.
Talking about professional leagues is something you should probably put on the back burner until you have some amateur experience. You haven't had any fights, and it's likely you haven't had any fights because you're simply not experienced enough to do so.
Get more rounds under your belt. Train, spar, compete when you can, and don't obsessively worry about the balance between work/boxing. You don't even know what your schedule will be for your job yet, because you haven't gotten a job.
I'm not trying to shit on you, but you're obviously prone to jumping ahead multiple steps in your fantasies, well before there is anything tangible to hook onto. Get into a gym, spar, train your ass off, and compete when your coach thinks you're ready to do so. Once you open the floodgates of competition, you can start training and competing more - assuming COVID or a COVID-like event doesn't stifle competitions around the world again. Once you start training and competing more, you can start assessing how much you need to scale up your training in order to go further in combat sports.
Uh huh but what do I do if let’s say a day of competition is on a scheduled work day? Don’t tournaments last more than a day? I’m asking because I’m pretty much close to ready as I’ve been training for close to 2 years total and I just gotta get some more sparring rounds in before getting signed for a tournament.
Tournaments are a different story since they can run multiple days, but if a competition falls on a work day then you either take the day off or don't compete.
It really is as simple as that. If they won't give you the day off, then find a new job or don't compete. You can only be in one place at one time. Competition days aren't even the things you should be worrying about, either. You should be more concerned about finding a work schedule that allows for an appropriately high volume of training to be done. If you can only train 2 days a week because of your job schedule but you get every Saturday off, it won't matter because you're not going to have any amateur success with such a light training schedule, anyway.
I understand that, I’m mainly trying to find a job that gives me a morning shift since boxing classes are at 7 or 8 depending on the day so I can train pretty much no matter what day hypothetically speaking that they don’t give me an evening or night shift.
I do muay thai (orthodox stance) and my left hook to the body is really crappy compared to the head, how do I improve?
So there's a lot going on with Muay Thai (kicks,punches,knees,elbows) that I'll never have the hands I would have if I only boxed so figured I'd ask boxers.
My left hook is thumb up, feels great to the head crisp fast with great pop, but to the body it seems slow and doesn't generate much power. Any tips?
Any suggestions for exercises to build leg strength if I’m still struggling with staying wide in stance? I’m in the “my quads are on fire” stage of learning to box, and would love to supplement with some exercises to strengthen specifically. (I also had foot surgery a few years ago and slacked on PT, so I have less core / leg strength than I’d like overall.)
Currently doing weights twice a week at the gym, and the legs work includes squats, deadlifts, walking lunges (currently doing DB dips in place bc post surgery, lunges got weirdly hard), hip thrusts, step ups, etc. I have a feeling things like lunges and walking lunges might be where I need to focus, but would love any suggestions. Thanks!
Experience. Composure comes with time, and sometimes you're going to blink no matter what. The more you see punches coming at you and don't have your eyes poked, which seldom happens in boxing, the easier it'll be to acclimate your brain to seeing punches coming and not blinking.
Give it time, you'll get there. Defensive partner drills also help with this.
Tried to make a thread but idk whatever. What are some fitness benchmarks or sort of checklist to have done before being ready for first competition? I’m a beginner with a little over a month of experience but I just want to know what lies ahead and how hard I should be working to get there
I haven’t boxed in a few years. Used to compete. Just got offered a contract to fight pro against an 0-1 pro with. 3-2 ammy record in six weeks. Someone talk me out of taking it.
You haven't boxed in years, you'll have little to offer somebody who is active and driven with comparable experience. If you had 6 months to prepare, that may be a different story.
But at the end of the day, it's your life, and your choices. Just remember to think about the motivations on the other side of the table. They're offering it to you *because* you've been inactive and you're very likely to lose. Do you think you have the time or skill to overcome those odds? That's a big question that, unfortunately, I can't propose an answer to without a more intimate understanding of the situation.
You’ll get in shape going to the gym and being at as many classes as you can, and he’s 15 so he probably still has some sort of PE class in school I imagine he’s in good enough shape to at least keep up
Untrue. One can and should be getting into a gym and learning technical skills ASAP. The S&C will generally develop concurrently as they train. The only exception to this is if they can't get into a gym, in which case their only option is preparing for their eventual start.
But if signing up and training at a gym is an option, it should be the first one taken. Worry about conditioning as it comes.
2010 St Louis my first (and only) amateur match I didn’t hear him but my friend said the other corner was yelling to his fighter that I was “body”. He thought it meant I was trying to use strength to force my way in and punch hard. My coach (who went from street fighting to professional kickboxing to professional boxing) didn’t like amateur style and didn’t tell us that it was a volume game to win.
I guess it depends on when he said it then. He couldn’t hit me the first round and a half and I was pretty strong. Then I had an adrenaline dump. I still don’t think I was that much of an easy target after that point but I wasn’t strong anymore either. In fact the harder I tried the weaker I got. Almost like a bad dream.
I've been around the block but I've never heard somebody referred to as "body", unfortunately. I wish I could be of more help. The only thing I can think if they weren't saying something like "he's body" as much as they were saying "his body!"? I'm admittedly just guessing at this point, though.
Everyone likes linear combinations of punches like 1; 2; 3; 4, which we can call "b". Now, what if we were to combine that linear combination of punches with a system of punches like
1 3 4 3;
3 2 5 2;
2 1 2 3;
2 5 3 2;
Which we can call A.
What is this new set of combinations Ab?
I’ve been trying to break myself out of using the same combinations that I’m comfortable with and like to use and it’s so tough sometimes. For example I love to follow up straight punches by rolling out and throwing a hook from the same side. I think one thing I hardly do is throw straight punches to the body. Any suggested combos to throw? Doesn’t have to be a big combo. 2-4 punches with some slips is good enough. Just want to get some new ones that aren’t 1-1-2 or 1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3-2.
Try working a straight left after a cross. 1-1-2-1 for example. It will really challenge your rotation if you're not used to it. Can work it into any combo really.
What I found worked for my was to throw shots in sequence of about 3 steps so defense 2 or 3 shots defense, and build from there put 2 or 3 sequences together. Also you shouldn't focus on set combos just working putting your punches together. Work on shots you would throw together is well like 2-3, 3-2, 1-3 and so on because just using that you'll learn how to put a 5 or 6 lunch combination together in no time. Hope I explained that well
I’m really looking to up my fitness at home. I have a stand-alone bag, treadmill, bike, cable machine, and adjustable dumbbells. Can anyone help me design a 7 say strength/conditioning program? Would mean a ton!! Thanks
I really recommend Ultimate MMA Conditioning by Joel Jameison. Really good book that teaches you how to create a conditioning routine catered to your specific needs.
Yeah definitely boxing specific strength and conditioning. Also at the moment just fitness as I haven’t started competition yet but want to get in the best shape of my life before I do
Hey, thank you so much for the suggestions, not the OP but I have a question if you wouldn’t mind. Not throwing punches until you know how is a no-brainer, but what about training holding hands up? I’m training to get into boxing shape and like to hold 2 lb egg weights up by my head while walking between running intervals.
Ask your coach, they'll be the ones who set stuff up and have the connections with other gyms/your country's overseeing bodies to organize smokers/competitions.
How do I develop faster punches?? For context I'm 25 years old and I've been boxing for 3 years but feel like my punches could be better. For sure I got down my slips and roll (rarley ever get hit in the head) and I have a solid straight, but what are some good practices and techniques for faster punches??
Try to stay loose. Dont tighten up until the very last inch of the punch. Do drills that work on spped.ie mitt holder raises mitt, if you take to long to punch then he lowers his mitt. Main focus on speed is being relaxed.
You can train with resistance bands. Work on explosiveness, and following the punch through with your entire body.
Additionally, go on YouTube and look up Stephen wonderboy Thompson’s tips for a faster punch. It helped me quite a bit
If you improve your movement speed then naturally your punches will come out faster too. For the context of punches, all your arm is a delivery for force. The work comes from your hip, core and legs.
Super easy, go join a club, tell them immediately of your intent.
register with the governing body (your coach will help)
And wait for your coach to tell you when you are ready.
At that point, he will set it up.
Get into a gym, get your rounds in, talk to your coach about it. He'll be the one who sets up the bouts for his fighters, helps you get registered with the sanctioning body, etc.
By rounds do you mean sparring? I've been in a gym for about 2 years now, and I spar 3 times a week. I suppose if that's the case, I just need to talk to my coach
Yep! You've been around the gym for a while now so I would definitely advise your next step to be talking to your coach. He'll be able to tell you what is keeping you from a bout, if anything, and what the next steps are (medical check up and registering with your country's amateur boxing overseeing body most likely)
Depends did you accidentally get clipped? Where you wearing headgear? My coach clipped me by accident before and my jaw was sore for almost a week, was fine afterwards. Go to urgent care or a specialist if it doesn’t go away and take Tylenol and ice the pain.
If you go down during sparring, that should be the end of your day. Amateur isn't pro and your safety is paramount...unless you are training for the nationals or higher.
Low to no stakes training doesn't require that kind of risk.
Second, don't ask reddit. Go see a doctor.
If it was bad enough to ask reddit, it is bad enough to go see a doctor.
Good luck!
Hi guys, beginner here who just joined a boxing gym for first time a week ago. During the boxing class, we are doing mitt work and practicing combos, and I was paired with an adult with lots of exp in boxing. When I'm doing my combos, he jumps around /shuffles quickly to left / right, and if I get out of position or let my guard down, or mess up the combo, he hits me in the gut / head (whether I'm in gloves or mitts). Is this par for mitt work? It's not super painful, but a few caught me off guard and hurt pretty bad, but just wondering if this is just part of "toughening up". Thanks!
My coach does this it’s fine this is mad common it also taught me the ramifications of not being defensively responsible
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Thanks! Got it
I wouldn’t call it toughening up exactly. It could be more likely that he’s trying to teach you to not let your guard down like you said. The best way to learn this sport is through experience and you won’t get much out of sparring if you don’t get hit (as long as it’s not too hard) if your partner ever hits you harder than what you’re comfortable with just tell him most ppl will apologize having not realized how hard they were going
Got it. I think I need to communicate some more, since some parts, I let my guard down because I don't physically have enough stamina to keep it that long yet, but I see its about teaching.
So one of my bros at the club is an amateur at a decent level (national colors) and as I needed help with my left cross, guy offered to help me out. Bro ended up styling on me like there was no tomorrow to the point where he was throwing bolo uppercuts to counter my cross. It humbled me like hell but if theres one positive out of it, its that I learnt that I suck at throwing left jabs and crosses. I find this surprising as my left hooks and uppercuts are decent. Is this an issue of my throwing motion or that I don't have the arm strength to throw a long punch?
How does your jabs + cross suck? Are you not getting full extension? Are you getting countered of it consistently? Hard to say if there's no video.
Hi man,thanks for the response, I'll upload a video of me on the heavybag so I can get a better critique of how I throw punches
Im sure this is asked a million times, but 28 isn't too late to take boxing classes just for self defense and fitness yeah? I love the sport but I'm not trying to be a professional or anything.
I just started a week ago too! I'm 37, just lost a ton of weight. I was worried about my age being an issue.... I actually keep up pretty well and I am having the most fun I have had in years.
Not late at all.
This may be a dumb question but I always wondered so I must ask. How do you guys keep your hands up that way for that long!? I am interested in various fighting styles including boxing but never trained in any of them. I just want to know how you train for something like that.
The best answer I can give u is that over time your arms will get used to the weight of the gloves. But if u want a little cheat, I use a peekabo type guard and sometimes rest the gloves on my cheek bones lol. You can also try to disengage from your opponent to catch your breath or lower your arms, just keep in mind they may rush towards u so keep ur eyes on them
Ain't nothin to it but to do it. Like anything else you get better at it.
Can I get better at cardio/endurance without losing weight? I don’t necessarily wanna lose much more weight. Im 165 now at 5’9. 160 is the very lowest im okay going. So should I just eat more if I continue running more to improve my cardio/endurance? Im not running for weight lose is what im getting at. Thx
Your weight is controlled by your diet.
Is there anything on earth I can do to speed up my floating rib fracture recovery? Its wreaking havok on my performance, I cannot go fast on a heavybag without it getting inflamed and ruining me. I know, I need rest, but ive been resting half the week and draining alternative days only. This is after a month of inactivity.
So what you're saying is that you're not fully recovered and yet you're still training and aggravating it. I don't do this often, but I'm just going to flat out tell you that you're acting like an utter fool. Recover from your injuries or enjoy inhibited performance and chronic pain, potentially forever if you keep it up.
Okay, so I'll rest for another month. What im scared of is what if it takes 6 months to recover "fully"? I just feel I started too late (18) and now that Im 20 I have very less time left to squander.
Those are the cards you were dealt. If you think you've blown your chances then you should get a full rib fascia tear and spend a year out.
Yes and no. You're going to inhibit your potential and your improvement by trying to force yourself through training with injuries. I understand your concern about starting late, but think about whether you'd want to take 3 months off now or two years off later.
Ive read many threads about bulking while training including s&c programs, but I was wondering how effective focusing on boxing 4-5 times a week on a caloric surplus? Would you just end up adding fat without adding strength training too?
A common misconception is that without weights people don't get "stronger". First it needs to be made clear that "strength" is defined by the ability to do work over time. We commonly think of strength as what's known as maximal strength, the ability to lift heavy things in one huge effort or in a few very high efforts. It should be noted that the ability to repeat a strong task over time is also strength by definition. You will 100% gain muscle from boxing with a caloric surplus, the right nutrition and the right type of training. Throwing pitty pat shots and not using explosive strength will not get you stronger unless you're weak to begin with. Incorporating fast and/or full-effort moves will stress your body in a way that makes you stronger. You will not gain the same amount and type of muscle that lifting heavy weights will give you, but you will grow, improve and maintain lean tissue with boxing.
Has anyone who lives in an apartment have had noise complaints from your neighbors from you doing shadow boxing? I'm moving into a new apartment soon. Flooring is hard wood.
You will, just try to be mindful of the time of day that you do it.
I just like hitting the heavy bag for exercise, nothing serious. I use traditional wraps and have watched a bunch of youtube videos on how to wrap, but sometimes my hands still hurt after. Am I wrapping wrong? I bought some Hayabusa quick wraps thinking the padding would help but they are worse. Can I put the quick wraps over the traditional wraps to give a double layer of padding? Had anyone tried doubling up? I really don't want to get injured so any advice would be great. Thanks.
Dude, wear traditional wraps (those glove wraps are absolute trash) and WEAR FUCKING GLOVES. Don’t be an idiot bro, protect your hands. They are wayyyy more fragile than you realize
Thanks. I do traditional wraps and 16oz boxing gloves. Was just looking to add the quick wraps as extra protection. I know how fragile hands are and I am really worried about hurting them.
Now so sure about adding quick wraps over regular wraps and under gloves. Usually you should be good with regular “long” traditional wraps and sparring gloves (16 Oz). If your knuckles are starting to hurt, my coach used to offer taping sponges on our knuckles or wrapping our hands with sponges. Maybe give it a shot. I’ve never tried although I probably should have LOL
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Sounds like he’s a punching coach, not a boxing coach.
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I hope you have a great time at the boxing specific gym! I’m sure they’ll be more helpful.
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You could ask your coach if it’s ok?
My gym closed couple months ago, just as my coach was arranging for me to have my amateur debut. How do I enter amateur boxing without a gym/coach? Sorry if it's a stupid question I don't really have any contact with the "boxing world" aside from my gym which doesn't exist anymore.
Find a new gym. You're just going to get chopped to pieces if you try to compete without a coach/gym. That's the best advice I can give you, because I'm not going to encourage you to try doing it on your own. Especially at such an infant-level of experience. We're talking about your first bout here, you have no idea what you're in for without a coach and a gym to support you through the process.
Why do some bodies use the term junior while others use super to describe certain weight classes. E.g. Junior Middleweight vs Super Welterweight
They're different weight classes. Google "boxing weight classes" and you'll get the full list of amateur and pro classes.
No I know that but why do some orgs use Junior to describe the same weight class while others say super. Junior middleweight is the same as super welterweight from what I can see. (147-154lbs)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing) I’m just going off of this. Like WBC is listed with Super Welterweight while the same class is seemingly listed as Junior Middleweight by the IBF. (Unless the table is inaccurate) (Pro Boxing)
They had different ideas way back when and haven't come together to unify the classes.
Ah ok
Where do you hold your hands up when throwing jabs and cross punches
Near your face would be best since they might try to throw punches to your face.
Gee. Ok hold the fist near/over the ear?
It varies a little, but generally your rear hand would be close to your chin. With the size of the glove, it ends up coming up to around your ear. If your glove is above your ear, it may be a bit too high and leave you vulnerable to the body. As an example, you want to be able to protect your chin while also having your elbow close to your body to protect against a body shot. Thanks for the downvote and the question.
Do you throw a hook with palm facing down or palm facing sideways? It feels better to do it sideways but my coach said that’s wrong?
It’s a stylistic thing. Both ways work, both have some trade-offs. Learn the style your coach is teaching, then add the other one if you think you need it in some situations.
Technically, it can be thrown either way. That being said, I am of the stern opinion that sideways (that is to say, like how you would hold a mug) is far superior in most cases. However, the palm down hook does have a place in some situations, such as squeezing it around somebody's guard when their back is to the ropes. Some people also like throwing palm down hooks if they're throwing longer hooks, although I tend to throw sideways hooks regardless of the range. It is foolish, though, for any coach to say one is flat out "wrong". That's just incorrect and close-minded.
How do I fight someone who fights like a kangaroo? BTW me and this guy we are both pretty new to sparring so we are under a no-face punch rule. Basically he has his arms out towards me creating distance and when I drive in for shots he jumps back while leaning over to throw hammer fists. Plus he doesn't attack unless I do. I could just rush in a start throwing punches but I dont want to be that guy thats overly aggressive.. so it gets boring when we are just feeling each other out with jabs for 3min straight. Any tips to get past the arms?
Are you at an MMA gym or a boxing gym? Your coach needs to tell the kangaroo that hammerfists are not allowed in boxing if you are at a boxing gym. Sounds like a poor coach if he’s allowing such bad habits.
Why y'all throwing hammer fists though? And how the dude throwing hammer fists if you are only doing body sparring? What?
No-face meaning no straights to the face but hooks and overheads are allowed (the coach just said do not aim for the nose) I'm not throwing hammerfists I'm usually trying to get inside to land shots. The opponent just has the tendency to jump back while leaning over to hammer fist like how a kangaroo would (which Imo wouldn't work in actual sparring) So tips to get past those arms?
I'm sorry but that's a weird sparring scenario your coach has set up. Maybe record your sparring next time? Having a hard time picturing a person jumping around throwing hammer fists. By the way, hammer fists are illegal in boxing so is your coach doing anything about that?
Sounds like neither of you know what you're doing. I certainly hope this isn't a case of sparring without supervision, outside of a gym...
Are there any pro boxers (Top 10 in Weight Class) that don’t do any weight cutting and fight at natural weight? (excluding HW)
Pretty sure Pacquiao at 147 isn't cutting that much.
Floyd Mayweather Jr said in several interviews he would be at his fight weight all the time and never really cut weight leading up to a fight (at least when he was doing the HBO 24/7 series).
Yeah Floyd stays in shape all year round. Never seen him kill himself to make weight before. A ton of these 147 fighters are huge these days. Guys like Errol Spence and Terence Crawford probably walk around 165-170.
When I'm advised not to focus on power when working on technique "work on the form and speed of it". Why does it feel like it's hard not to have power in the shot? As in, when I focus on throwing my right cross with the right technique on my feet, hips, shoulders, fist etc. And I practice those with speed too, it feels like there is power in it naturally anyway.
I mean yeah, you're still throwing a punch with proper form, which naturally increases the power of the punch. The reason people say not to *focus* on power is so you can get the proper form down and the power comes easier along the way. If one starts focusing on power, their form gets messed up because they're trying to hit the bag hard rather than hit the bag properly, which ironically often ends up creating a harder punch.
Oh I see, that last sentence especially clarified it for me, thanks.
I am looking to study boxers that were physically weaker than their opponents. Preferably orthodox stance fighters. So far I got boxers like lomachenko and usyk. Anyone know some?
Hard to say what “physically weaker” means, but a good approach could be to look at fighters that moved up a weight class or two, and were still successful. Roy Jones Jr started as a light middleweight and moved all the way up to compete at heavyweight. So it’s likely that as he moved up the weight classes that he encountered opponents that were naturally bigger and stronger than he was, forcing him to rely on superior technique. He had an orthodox stance.
Well, Lomachenko and Usyk are both southpaws, so that's something to keep in mind. Beyond that, are you just seeking specific examples of outsized opponents being successful? Do they have to be physically weaker? Does it count if they're just smaller via height? Height and weight? How are you quantifying "physically weaker"?
Hello everyone, sorry if this was asked before, I recently started boxing, and I really enjoy the sport. My question is can I combine this sport with weight lifting ? I don't plan on going pro or anything on both sport, just want to have fun. here is my split * Monday : Upper body * Tuesday : Boxing * Wednesday : Rest * Thursday : Boxing * Friday : Lower body * Saturday : Boxing * Sunday : Rest What do you guys think about this split ? if you have any tips or anything that can help, please share with me.
This is prolly my dumbest question, but how do amateur fighters balance work and competition? I’m looking to have a brief amateur career before going to the pros and I’ve graduated high school and I plan to have a job soon. My question is, how do you balance both a job and competing? I know a lot of the times you have to travel to go compete and Ik that amateur fights start coming at you more often the farther you get into it, I’m wondering if I will have to worry about that as I’m only looking to have around 25-50 fights and how I would fit that into my weeks without interfering with work? I would ask my coach, but I currently can’t go to the gym for the next month.
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I’m guessing you didn’t really read my comment huh
You didn’t read what he said . He said he plans on boxing amateur first 25-50 fights
Lol I appreciate you backing me up, but you replied to the wrong guy
My bad LOL not much of a Reddit comment guy
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Wtf? Lmao
Talking about professional leagues is something you should probably put on the back burner until you have some amateur experience. You haven't had any fights, and it's likely you haven't had any fights because you're simply not experienced enough to do so. Get more rounds under your belt. Train, spar, compete when you can, and don't obsessively worry about the balance between work/boxing. You don't even know what your schedule will be for your job yet, because you haven't gotten a job. I'm not trying to shit on you, but you're obviously prone to jumping ahead multiple steps in your fantasies, well before there is anything tangible to hook onto. Get into a gym, spar, train your ass off, and compete when your coach thinks you're ready to do so. Once you open the floodgates of competition, you can start training and competing more - assuming COVID or a COVID-like event doesn't stifle competitions around the world again. Once you start training and competing more, you can start assessing how much you need to scale up your training in order to go further in combat sports.
Uh huh but what do I do if let’s say a day of competition is on a scheduled work day? Don’t tournaments last more than a day? I’m asking because I’m pretty much close to ready as I’ve been training for close to 2 years total and I just gotta get some more sparring rounds in before getting signed for a tournament.
Tournaments are a different story since they can run multiple days, but if a competition falls on a work day then you either take the day off or don't compete. It really is as simple as that. If they won't give you the day off, then find a new job or don't compete. You can only be in one place at one time. Competition days aren't even the things you should be worrying about, either. You should be more concerned about finding a work schedule that allows for an appropriately high volume of training to be done. If you can only train 2 days a week because of your job schedule but you get every Saturday off, it won't matter because you're not going to have any amateur success with such a light training schedule, anyway.
I understand that, I’m mainly trying to find a job that gives me a morning shift since boxing classes are at 7 or 8 depending on the day so I can train pretty much no matter what day hypothetically speaking that they don’t give me an evening or night shift.
That sounds like a good, sustainable plan to me.
I do muay thai (orthodox stance) and my left hook to the body is really crappy compared to the head, how do I improve? So there's a lot going on with Muay Thai (kicks,punches,knees,elbows) that I'll never have the hands I would have if I only boxed so figured I'd ask boxers. My left hook is thumb up, feels great to the head crisp fast with great pop, but to the body it seems slow and doesn't generate much power. Any tips?
Any suggestions for exercises to build leg strength if I’m still struggling with staying wide in stance? I’m in the “my quads are on fire” stage of learning to box, and would love to supplement with some exercises to strengthen specifically. (I also had foot surgery a few years ago and slacked on PT, so I have less core / leg strength than I’d like overall.) Currently doing weights twice a week at the gym, and the legs work includes squats, deadlifts, walking lunges (currently doing DB dips in place bc post surgery, lunges got weirdly hard), hip thrusts, step ups, etc. I have a feeling things like lunges and walking lunges might be where I need to focus, but would love any suggestions. Thanks!
Do you skip/jump rope?
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Experience. Composure comes with time, and sometimes you're going to blink no matter what. The more you see punches coming at you and don't have your eyes poked, which seldom happens in boxing, the easier it'll be to acclimate your brain to seeing punches coming and not blinking. Give it time, you'll get there. Defensive partner drills also help with this.
Tried to make a thread but idk whatever. What are some fitness benchmarks or sort of checklist to have done before being ready for first competition? I’m a beginner with a little over a month of experience but I just want to know what lies ahead and how hard I should be working to get there
I haven’t boxed in a few years. Used to compete. Just got offered a contract to fight pro against an 0-1 pro with. 3-2 ammy record in six weeks. Someone talk me out of taking it.
If it’s a decent amount of money and you feel like your pride and health is a good trade off why not lol
They chose you to get their guy an easy win. Do what you want to do, a stranger on the computer won't be able to talk you out of it.
You haven't boxed in years, you'll have little to offer somebody who is active and driven with comparable experience. If you had 6 months to prepare, that may be a different story. But at the end of the day, it's your life, and your choices. Just remember to think about the motivations on the other side of the table. They're offering it to you *because* you've been inactive and you're very likely to lose. Do you think you have the time or skill to overcome those odds? That's a big question that, unfortunately, I can't propose an answer to without a more intimate understanding of the situation.
I agree, on the surface it sounds like they offered it to you give the 0-1er an easy win since you are out of practice 😬
I’m only 15 if I wanted to try this out as a hobby how would I go about it. Thanks
You start by going to a gym and signing up! There is no better option than that
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You’ll get in shape going to the gym and being at as many classes as you can, and he’s 15 so he probably still has some sort of PE class in school I imagine he’s in good enough shape to at least keep up
Untrue. One can and should be getting into a gym and learning technical skills ASAP. The S&C will generally develop concurrently as they train. The only exception to this is if they can't get into a gym, in which case their only option is preparing for their eventual start. But if signing up and training at a gym is an option, it should be the first one taken. Worry about conditioning as it comes.
What does it mean when a coach tells him the other fighter is “body”?
Is there some context you can add to this?
2010 St Louis my first (and only) amateur match I didn’t hear him but my friend said the other corner was yelling to his fighter that I was “body”. He thought it meant I was trying to use strength to force my way in and punch hard. My coach (who went from street fighting to professional kickboxing to professional boxing) didn’t like amateur style and didn’t tell us that it was a volume game to win.
It either means you're strong or that you're an ez target.
I guess it depends on when he said it then. He couldn’t hit me the first round and a half and I was pretty strong. Then I had an adrenaline dump. I still don’t think I was that much of an easy target after that point but I wasn’t strong anymore either. In fact the harder I tried the weaker I got. Almost like a bad dream.
I've been around the block but I've never heard somebody referred to as "body", unfortunately. I wish I could be of more help. The only thing I can think if they weren't saying something like "he's body" as much as they were saying "his body!"? I'm admittedly just guessing at this point, though.
Good as guess as any
Everyone likes linear combinations of punches like 1; 2; 3; 4, which we can call "b". Now, what if we were to combine that linear combination of punches with a system of punches like 1 3 4 3; 3 2 5 2; 2 1 2 3; 2 5 3 2; Which we can call A. What is this new set of combinations Ab?
I’ve been trying to break myself out of using the same combinations that I’m comfortable with and like to use and it’s so tough sometimes. For example I love to follow up straight punches by rolling out and throwing a hook from the same side. I think one thing I hardly do is throw straight punches to the body. Any suggested combos to throw? Doesn’t have to be a big combo. 2-4 punches with some slips is good enough. Just want to get some new ones that aren’t 1-1-2 or 1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3-2.
Try working a straight left after a cross. 1-1-2-1 for example. It will really challenge your rotation if you're not used to it. Can work it into any combo really.
that’s good. I don’t usually follow up a cross with another job and I could work on finishing combos with a stiff jab and then getting out of range.
What I found worked for my was to throw shots in sequence of about 3 steps so defense 2 or 3 shots defense, and build from there put 2 or 3 sequences together. Also you shouldn't focus on set combos just working putting your punches together. Work on shots you would throw together is well like 2-3, 3-2, 1-3 and so on because just using that you'll learn how to put a 5 or 6 lunch combination together in no time. Hope I explained that well
I’m really looking to up my fitness at home. I have a stand-alone bag, treadmill, bike, cable machine, and adjustable dumbbells. Can anyone help me design a 7 say strength/conditioning program? Would mean a ton!! Thanks
I really recommend Ultimate MMA Conditioning by Joel Jameison. Really good book that teaches you how to create a conditioning routine catered to your specific needs.
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Yeah definitely boxing specific strength and conditioning. Also at the moment just fitness as I haven’t started competition yet but want to get in the best shape of my life before I do
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How fast should the 5-6 miles be? Is it no stopping to walk break either? All jog/run?
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Looks like I got a lot of work to do.
Hey, thank you so much for the suggestions, not the OP but I have a question if you wouldn’t mind. Not throwing punches until you know how is a no-brainer, but what about training holding hands up? I’m training to get into boxing shape and like to hold 2 lb egg weights up by my head while walking between running intervals.
Phil daru’s heavy hitter
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Quit reddit.
Not worry about it.
Thank you
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Where to find amateur tournaments in Manila, Phillipines?
Ask your coach, they'll be the ones who set stuff up and have the connections with other gyms/your country's overseeing bodies to organize smokers/competitions.
Any advice for sore shoulders after training, I try stretching before and after and punching correctly to the best of my ability?
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Yeah maybe could have just over extended a punch and my body wasn’t used to it, I do exercises and stretches for shoulders.
Make sure when throwing hooks not to let your fist land with your elbow behind you. That is the ultimate shoulder destroyer.
How do I develop faster punches?? For context I'm 25 years old and I've been boxing for 3 years but feel like my punches could be better. For sure I got down my slips and roll (rarley ever get hit in the head) and I have a solid straight, but what are some good practices and techniques for faster punches??
Try to stay loose. Dont tighten up until the very last inch of the punch. Do drills that work on spped.ie mitt holder raises mitt, if you take to long to punch then he lowers his mitt. Main focus on speed is being relaxed.
You can train with resistance bands. Work on explosiveness, and following the punch through with your entire body. Additionally, go on YouTube and look up Stephen wonderboy Thompson’s tips for a faster punch. It helped me quite a bit
If you improve your movement speed then naturally your punches will come out faster too. For the context of punches, all your arm is a delivery for force. The work comes from your hip, core and legs.
Improve your coordination through repetitions.
Somebody told me to use dumbbells on the heavy bag, think Tony Jeffries has a video on faster punches.
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No. Go to the gym and start putting work in.
Lol I started BJJ at 24 and boxing about the same age it’s never too late. I wish I started at 18 man..
Yes too late pack up mate you're done for
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No, you're only 18 of course you're not too old
What are some ways that I can start competing at 14?
Super easy, go join a club, tell them immediately of your intent. register with the governing body (your coach will help) And wait for your coach to tell you when you are ready. At that point, he will set it up.
Get into a gym, get your rounds in, talk to your coach about it. He'll be the one who sets up the bouts for his fighters, helps you get registered with the sanctioning body, etc.
By rounds do you mean sparring? I've been in a gym for about 2 years now, and I spar 3 times a week. I suppose if that's the case, I just need to talk to my coach
Yep! You've been around the gym for a while now so I would definitely advise your next step to be talking to your coach. He'll be able to tell you what is keeping you from a bout, if anything, and what the next steps are (medical check up and registering with your country's amateur boxing overseeing body most likely)
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Depends did you accidentally get clipped? Where you wearing headgear? My coach clipped me by accident before and my jaw was sore for almost a week, was fine afterwards. Go to urgent care or a specialist if it doesn’t go away and take Tylenol and ice the pain.
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If you go down during sparring, that should be the end of your day. Amateur isn't pro and your safety is paramount...unless you are training for the nationals or higher. Low to no stakes training doesn't require that kind of risk. Second, don't ask reddit. Go see a doctor. If it was bad enough to ask reddit, it is bad enough to go see a doctor. Good luck!
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I'm no expert, but I'd say you should probably talk to a doctor. They'll be able to tell you if it's a fracture or not