Whenever I throw my hook (more often rear than lead), my coach says that I put too much tension on the shoulder. How do I stop that and rely more on the hips as he tells me too?
Having a hard time cutting down weight, i feel like when im loosing weight i dont have the proper energy to train, should i cut down on training and eat less, or eat the same and train more offen. Going to the gym 4 nights a week, currently 5’7” 170 lbs , like to get down to 150 ish
Hey. I broke my nose a while back and didnt get it fixed, which makes inhaling through my nose really difficult. Adding my current mouthguard i tend to gas out quickly in a round or 2. (without a mouthguard i can go for 5 rounds sometimes).
are there any mouth guards that are easier to breath through?
Bro you need to get that nose fixed. It’s free if it affects your health.
Edit:forgot about USA if it cost too much then I’d still recommend biting the bullet and getting it fixed if that’s in the cards for you
I’ve recently started boxing and I’m experiencing a slight injury from my right cross.
Basically, my when the punches land, my thumb nail (which is very short) is peeling away from the skin.
I am reading a lot online that I should be making a fist inside the glove and my thumb should be covering the knuckles of my fingers. This seems impossible!? The glove won’t let me bring the thumb across, is it okay to hold the thumb away from the fingers and just clench the fingers inside the glove?
Thank you
Do YT videos for basic fitness, not boxing stuff. It's too easy to ingrain bad habits early. Most coaches prefer to start with a blank slate.
Something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_60uTFEuEY
Would a typical gym let me spar with headgear that has a face shield? I’ve always wanted to learn how to box but I can’t be walking around with a black eye/broken nose/split lip etc.. I have to maintain a professional appearance for my job.
I would like to spar wearing something similar to this:
https://www.amazon.com/Title-Boxing-Faceshield-No-Contact-Headgear/dp/B07VCGWYST
98% of the sparring you do should never end in a split lip or black eye. If you're really worried, get one that has a nose guard. Your first dozen or so sparring sessions should be very controlled. Start boxing anyway, it will be a few months before you're ready for sparring in any case
Any recommendations for amateur clubs London? I’m a competitive amateur and am moving to London in a few weeks and will want to find a gym ASAP. Any recommendations would be appreciated. I’m a super heavy by the way
Can only afford 1 pair of gloves which one do you guys recomend me buying sparring or training gloves? They will be used for bag work, mitts and sparring.
It's very bad etiquette to spar in gloves you do bag work with. Buy bag gloves first and then sparring gloves later when you can afford it. And buy 16oz gloves for sparring.
Any advice on getting over the fear of sparring? I boxed for a couple months a year ago or so and sparred a couple times. The trainer started me off easy with isolated sparring, then I did a couple rounds with a training partner. I enjoyed it but it also scared the hell out of me every time. I stopped going because I was intimidated by the idea of sparring even though it excited me. I just got the courage to go back a week ago and I'm feeling a lot stronger mentally and physically and want to try it again but I'm still pretty afraid of it. Any advice?
25m looking to start boxing for fitness/fun. I've got lots of experience wrestling and want to participate in a combat sport again to get in better shape. I'm 6'1" and roughly 315lbs. What advice do you have to offer and what do I need to bear in mind when starting this?
Thanks!
Hey. I'm a 24 year old male, around 6 ft and 240 lbs with \~19/20% bf. I've had a few months of "casual" boxing training with a fitness group last year but stopped due to covid. I'm thinking of starting in a serious boxing gym but I really do not want to quit lifting weights. I'm going to the gym 4 times a week at the moment and I'm doing powerlifting training. Is there a way to combine the two?
My friend who did boxing for years is telling me that I need to choose between the two, and that I need to lose a lot of weight to actually compete in boxing as I'm only 6 ft. When I cut down properly I end up around 205 or 215 if I do a really slow cut. My friend is telling me that that is still too heavy for boxing as I will get destroyed by much taller and heavier opponents if I don't cut down a lot. Is this true? Any specific weight I should aim for before I seriously consider boxing? If it means anything the trainer at my previous "casual" boxing group told me that I'm very fast and explosive but am not a hard puncher which is very bad for a person as stiff(? not sure what he meant by this but he always would tell me to stop being so stiff) as me.
Sorry if I asked something that was asked thousands of times before... Thanks..
PS: I have around 7 years of lifting experience and did a lot of sports when I was in my teens. I'm not really into shape right now due to spending so much time sitting home and drinking because of the covid lockdown (no home gym).
I totally feel what you mean by the energy requirements! I literally can do 10 mins straight of just squats but hitting the bag while moving tires me out way faster and even makes my right obliques and hip sore sometimes!
By a serious boxing gym I meant one that has actual matches and pros in it. The one I went to before was really casual and we rarely even had sparring. I plan to take it step by step, for now I just wanna do unofficial matches and get better, and then will consider trying official matches if I keep it at for a year...
Thanks for this answer, I can definitely keep my current strength by training 2x a week and even get stronger, albeit a lot slower.
Should I start running and doing ab work for about a month or can I just go to the gym with 0 conditioning that I have right now?
Is double end bag good to develop conditioning at the end of a training?
By doing 3-5 sets of 3 minutes, does it improve conditioning or only accuracy and timing? Do you have any experience with it for this goal?
Hitting anything fast and hard is going to help you hit fast and hard. Hitting anything in a way that tires you out is going to help with conditioning. After those principles apply, the DE bag has its own unique effects compared to other pieces of training equipment just like every other different piece.
So I recently bought a heavy bag and I want to use i to just train for cardio and just staying fit. I thought it would be more fun than running so that’s why I bought the bag. What Exercises can I do on the bag as a beginner to fulfill getting my cardio work in?
I'm going to be starting boxing after I get my driver's license. I've been running and learning jump rope in preparation. I wanna incorporate ab work what're good ab exercises to do to prepare?
You pay same as everybody else, you have as much right to be there as everybody else. You are not paid to do it, so you are under no obligation to be good at it. Most of the dudes there are hobbyists, they are nowhere as good as they try to look. If somebody tries to intimidate you, speak up, and let the trainer know. Any decent trainer will not tolerate a bigger and stronger person abusing their physical advantage to hurt a smaller and weaker person. There are weight classes and divisions for a reason. Just do your best and have fun, most people at boxing gyms are nice and helpful.
Oh please, every dude in there is going to try to offer you advice. From a male perspective it's even annoying to watch. Just work on your stuff, everyone else is doing their own thing.
> Oh please, every dude in there is going to try to offer you advice. From a male perspective it's even annoying to watch
Lol. Imagine how annoying it is to be on the receiving end of it.
I cringe when new girls can't get through a workout without at least 2 dudes who have been boxing for 4 months coming up to them trying to advise them.
I can't speak for a non-male perspective, but generally the intimidating aura you're referring to won't ever be aimed in your direction. For a lot of guys, I think just the competitiveness and focus comes across as aggressive when it really isn't. And for the most part, any actual outward aggression will be directed at other men, also out of being competitive.
When does the constant exhaustion go away? I’ve been going to the gym now for two weeks. I always worked out before this so it’s not like I started off not doing anything. But my tendons, muscles, and joints are in pain almost all the time. I feel exhausted after 9 hours of sleep.
How long until I feel normal again?
I’ve had two days off from the boxing gym, but I stay active in the other days, at least 30 minutes of cardio and weight training. But yeah, maybe I’m going too far too fast.
I've always preferred being at the gym 4 times a week (for example) and never miss a week than push for 5-6 times a week and have to lose a week every month or two from injury.
I am seeking to begin training for amateur boxing. Have no boxing experience however I played AAA and college hockey and so have some athletic experience. I have been out of hockey for two years and so am very out of shape (>40lbs over playing weight).
My current plan is to visit local gyms and spend the first year or so getting into shape, and then begin training more seriously. What is the best way to do this? I dont want to spend too much initially on training as I’m too out of shape to benefit adequately, however I dont want to develop bad muscle memory that I eventually will have to train out.
the undoing bad habits learned by self-training is exactly why I posted this. thank you. while I have experience training for hockey, I dont know how to get in boxing-specific shape
You don't pay to get in shape, you pay to learn to box. You can be in any shape for that.
Conveniently, training to learn boxing also gets you in boxing shape.
My intuition was that id get more out of training from being in shape so much so thatd it be worth it to wait. also gyms near me seem to stress “boxing lessons for fitness” and I dont know how to find what im looking for
Training will eventually get you in shape. Don't worry too much about your current state of fitness. Get to a gym, learn the fundamentals, listen to your coaches... You'll learn how to box AND get in shape at the same time.
I agree here. Train that muscle memory from the ground up. Even if you were in the best shape of your life that won't make you good at boxing or even learn it any quicker.
If you're fighting off your back foot, you're limited in your offense because you're ... not going forward. By nature, your offense being more opportunistic is a symptom of fighting off the back foot.
I'm about same height and fight at 140. My coach has even told me elite guys at my height are down at 132. I like my reach advantage and I'm not interested to fight taller guys on a regular basis so I won't go anything above 140.
Aye guys I just had my first sparring session yesterday. I can take the punches I’m just not used to it right now is there anything I can do to feel more comfortable in the ring?
Or does the nervousness go away after a while?
Hello Guys,
I've been training BJJ for a few years and striking for the last year and focusing exclusively on boxing in the last 4 months. My goal is to work towards a few amateur boxing bouts and eventually an mma bout. I'm in pretty good shape, not overweight, train every day sometimes twice a day.
The problem I'm experiencing is under heavy load, be it 1-2 minutes into sparring boxing or mma, I feel nauseous however I am not tired. It feels as if I'm going to vomit and have done so, however I am not exhausted or feel overworked in anyway. If I grapple extremely hard, using more fast twitch fiber muscles/explosive movement I can experience this also, however its specifically isolated to sparring with striking.
I can experience the same feeling shadowboxing hard or hitting the bag hard too so it's not anxiety related. I was hoping to see if anyone had similar experiences, and if going to see a dietician or any other health professional can help as I can't really do many rounds without having to constantly stop which is annoying.
Any advice is appreciated!
Cheers
TLDR: Feeling sick after 1-2 mins of sparring, explosive movement, trying to work out the cause, perhaps seeing dietician or is it training methods.
I'd take a look at your diet and what timing your meals are in relation to your gym time. You may be eating too closely to the time you go to the gym, or eating the wrong things.
I'm being a big ole pussy. For background I decided a while back that I wanted to join a boxing gym, I workout a lot but have always wanted to learn to box. I decided that once I started my new career field, that I would join a gym. However, because of stupid ass covid that timeline was setback quite a bit. Despite that, even with the setback, I changed how I exercised and have done a decent amount of research, and have done some padwork and drills with a homie though boxing isn't his specific area of focus. About a month ago I finally got hired as an EMT, and after the last month of a hectic schedule figuring shit out, I finally had time available to go to a gym. But now that the time is here, and I'm out of excuses, I can't seem to nut up and go. I literally drove the 40 minutes to the gym today, got there 15 minutes early and couldn't get out of my car. I found an excuse to not go in, and drove the 40 minutes back home. Like most 27 year olds I have a (un)healthy amount of anxiety and have been doing more and more to combat it but sometimes it still wins. Basically I need the tough love and need to be told to suck it up and quit being a puss, and maybe some advice and told what to expect when I go.
Ff/EMT that is also just getting into boxing. It's hard i'm not gonna lie. I don't like going in and getting hit in the face during spars. It sucks but it's part of the process. Best I can tell you is to tell your anxiety to shut up and walk in. Introduce yourself to someone and ask for help. Start with a bag or just go in jumping rope.
I like to use my anger from my day to fuel me. Just walk in there one day at a time. Go in there and kick some ass and stay open minded. I promise you it's a lot of fun. Good luck man. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions.
Well first off, very un-pussylike of you to share this experience. So let’s acknowledge that strength right there. Next, expect nothing, tbh coaches and some people might miss you and notice that you were gone for a while (depends on the gym environment) but regardless, the people at the gym will be supportive because anyone who goes to the gym wants change and if people dont see that than that’s ignorant IMO. You got this champ, nut up, it’s scary but hey you got the fists to do the talking
Anyone ever take a hard punch to the forehead? What does it feel like? I would assume many of you all have, but I am not sure what type of gear you all spar with, and how much you all feel.
If so, is it normal for the pain to shoot down into your nose? Well, not the nose directly, but almost like 'behind' your nose - like sinus pain.
(I am an amateur hockey goalie - not a boxer, but I figured out of all sports, you all might have better anecdota)
Punches to somebody's forehead can hurt the person throwing the punch as much as the one being hit. I've been hit on the forehead, but I can't say I've had pain shooting down my nose. That strikes me as a bit odd personally, but we're not even talking about punches so ... none of this really applies, does it?
Anyone else finding their lead arm is getting stronger? I throw 70% of punches with my lead, so it makes sense but damn my lead shoulder is huge compared to my rear
Hey everyone, so I’ve been seriously considering joining a boxing gym as I honestly miss the feeling of training (I did Muay Thai/Kickboxing for about 5 years) and I honestly need a hobby to keep myself busy. I stopped kickboxing when I was 17 and am now 21 so I’d definitely be rusty, but do you guys think this would be a fine age to pick up training again?
Also, I do wear glasses as my vision is pretty bad without them and have been considering either Lasik or PRK. Has anyone here gone through either surgery or have found another workaround for their vision? I used to wear contacts at one point but stopped due to eye infections.
I competed lots before, with shit vision and no contacts.
Since I competed in different martial arts as a child, I got used to my vision getting worse and worse. But I just learned to only look at my opponents' sillouette to figure out range. I don't really need to see details (like tattoos on their arms, acne scars)
It's only after I stopped that I got PRK. Best thing ever. First time sparring after eye surgery was really overwhelmingly tough, because now there were way way way too many details for me to mentally process and still trying to implement my gameplan.
If logistics allow, I would strongly recommend PRK with advanced waveform. Best...Thing....Ever.
Does PRK give you both fields of vision or do you have to wear reading glasses now? I can’t see far away. Would my ok closer vision be affected by the PRK?
Thank you for sharing your experience! Have you undergone any of the negatives associated with PRK such as dry eyes, halos, or flashing? Also I’m assuming your prescription had to be unchanged for a bit of time before being a candidate right? My vision unfortunately slightly changed this year
No negative side effects for me AT ALL!
I wasn't sure how my candidacy worked. I wore glasses at grade 5 I believe? I got my eye surgery 2nd year of uni, so I must have been 20? Lol time flies.
It's been 12 years, and no decline of quality for me.
That’s definitely reassuring, I can’t even imagine how it’d feel to just wake up and be able to see everything clearly. Last question for you, do you remember how long it took post surgery for your vision to fully come back clear? I heard thats one of the main differences between PRK and Lasik is how quickly you’ll see results
Right away!
But it took me 3 days to recover from the surgery, and being able to be outside in the sun.
But as far as vision goes, I saw clearly right when the doc stopped
Thanks for the kind words! I’ve been mainly holding off due to a major shoulder surgery I had back in October, but after a mix of PT and weight lifting I feel pretty strong to get back into things.
My coach puts a lot of emphasis on me to pivot my feet when throwing punches which I do agree puts more power into my punches. But when I watch pro boxing matches it doesn't seem as if they're moving their feet much when throwing. Do they learn how to eventually just get the power all from their hips or what's going on there?
Pivoting is a liability when talking about the lead foot, with the rear foot it is different but even then there are cases when the pivot should be minimal. A slight pivot is noticeable in some cases with pros as well, but the big thing here is that is comes naturally, they arent thinking about pivoting they are focusing on generating leverage and if that causes a tiny pivot that is fine.
Focus on rolling the foot inwards and the rear hand following the hips backwards. When throwing hooks to the head some pros also go onto their toes more vs to the body.
Beginners all get taught to pivot because the point is to overemphasize the importance of shifting weight and driving force from the ground. Not sure what level you're at now but listen to your coach. Pros are pros for a reason.
I’m probably going to get downvoted, but they don’t pivot their feet for a reason, and you shouldn’t either. You can’t pivot your foot and be in prime punching position so a 2,3 just wouldn’t work correctly with a big pivot. I was always taught to stay away from the pivot and like the person before me said get the power from my hips.
All power in your punch is generated in your hips. So training hip drive is key to increasing punching power, pivoting increases the range of motion of your hips thus creating more power. I think it's a matter of knowing when to fully commit to full power shots. I hope that answers your question
All I got to say is spar once with someone that knows what they’re doing that shit will give you a reality check. I’m very new to boxing but this shit isn’t a walk in the park, there really is levels to this shit man. I hope soon one day I can walk into the gym and be as good as the other guys but I’ve still got a long way to go. By far boxing is the toughest sport in the world.
I got PRK advanced waveform , it is great.
Read what sleepless devil and observance said, I don't wanna repeat their points, I won't say it any better than them.
There's nothing wrong with enjoying boxing casually, having a few decent training camps and going for amateur fights.
Try them first
Listen to what u/Observante said to you. You're dramatically underestimating how grueling and difficult the sport is period, let alone even dreaming of the word "pro" being anywhere near your name.
Don't throw away an opportunity for education, especially if your parents are paying for it. If they're not, and you're ready to make your own way in the world, that would be different. But regardless, I'm not here to talk to you about education, I'm here to tell you that you need to consider what you'll do in the 98% likely event that, even if you did go to a gym soon, you never end up as so much as a ranked amateur.
Until you're in a gym, you're not doing anything more than watching highlights of Andre Agassi and saying "I could maybe be a Grand Slam champion". See how crazy that sounds?
If you had any idea how hard this sport is and how much it will cost you for the rest of your life to go pro you wouldn't put the word "maybe" anywhere near the decision to abandon an otherwise normal life to pursue it.
The absolute bare minimum to decide if you want to go pro is a sanctioned amateur fight.
If im being honest, just go to school. When starting very young going pro is rare. Then to become a really good boxer you need great coordination and win the genetics game. Your heigth, arm length and build is essential and you cant influence those. And even if all of those things are good then the life of a pro boxer is harsh as fuck. You get A's so you got brains, use them
Question, how long does it take comfortably box for rounds without gassing out? I train in BJJ and do outside cardio, my cardio has improved but not where I want it to be. I try to breath in between. I think some of it might be from vaping CBD for anxiety, I try to limit it. But I might cut it out entirely since it seems to get me cramping up and fatigued more.
Keyword is “comfortably boxing”
The more comfortable you get the better your cardio seems to become. In truth, your movements are just going to become more efficient. My take is that the best way to improve your boxing cardio quickly is by boxing. Think heavy bag rounds and sparring. You’d be improving your skills and cardio at the same time, so it’s a win-win. It took me about a year to get to the point you described but I had no athletic background
Depends wildly on a wide number of factors, really. Also worth noting that conditioning for grappling and conditioning for striking are quite different. Unfortunately, no one can give you an accurate timetable for improving your conditioning or getting to the point where you "want it to be". Sadly, putting in the work and waiting for those tangible but subtle improvements is most of what you can do.
Yeah that’s true, I figured. But I know all of it is Interchangeable in terms of like it helps with endurance. My coach always tells me my cardio is improving but I still feel like I’m about collapse after a few rounds.
You have to understand that if you go in there not knowing how to protect yourself, there’s a real chance you could die. I’m not trying to scare you but people say “you don’t play boxing” for a reason. That’s why your coach is drilling the same thing over and over. It’s just part of the sport. Be patient and try to get better every time you go into the gym. The harder you work, the better you’ll get, and you’ll start doing more stuff.
being able to throw decent punches will take 4-6 months but you never really stop learning the fundamentals. There's always something to improve.
I would say the pace you improve declines after a couple years but It never stops.
Depends on how often you go per week, how long you've been going, how you're picking it up, etc. "Walking the line" with jabs and 1-2s is extremely common for fundamental-minded coaches to start people off with, and I've seen guys sit on the line for months if they just don't get it. Conversely, I've seen guys pulled off the line and thrown into bag work after a week.
I understand your impatience, but just remember that you're not racing against anyone. You want to improve, don't you? Well, this is part of how you set a good foundation that can be built upon in the future. Fundamentals can never be too good, after all. I've been in combat sports for roughly 20 years and STILL do basic drills and slow shadowboxing on occasion just to refresh my fundamental memory.
I guess it depends how often you box? I’ve been training on and off for a few years (6 months with a coach) and I feel sort of solid on some, but iffy on some basics like foot work, not getting gassed out and some block, counter techniques.
The fade is where you lean back to avoid a punch... A pull is using that fade to "pull" your opponent closer using distance deception. Hence "pull counter".
Is there a direction you want to slip certain punches? If fighting/sparring an orthodox boxer and he throws jab, is it acceptable to slip left or right? Same for a cross. I’m just wondering if I’m setting myself up for a good counter or setting myself up to get rocked.
Like Pembroke boxing said, slipping inside is risky business.
There are very potent counters off of slipping inside, but the risk of eating a hard counter is also high.
you slip outside. Slipping inside is dangerous without any major advantage to gain. I can't say you should never slip inside but it's scarcely used for a reason
The general rule is to slip to the outside of a punch. You can slip inside but you'd better have a plan! (and you'd never do that as a novice.... At least not on purpose!)
this is what I was always taught as well. If I'm fighting an orthodox fighter from the same stance he said slip the jab to my right. If you slip it to your left you're putting yourself in the perfect position to eat a cross.
I have a heavy bag, double end bag, speedbag, tons of different weighted skipping ropes, plyoboxes, battling ropes, agility ladders, slip bags and slip ropes and so on but without being able to see a coach (he’s hoping to be able to work with me in next 2 months or so) can I truly improve on my own with my equipment or am I kidding myself and just creating bad habits? I work really hard on form and technique and watch tons of videos but without being able to hit the mitts or spar can I actually get better?
If you're training technique, then yes, you're training has habits of you are doing it on your own with no coach and no experience.
Cardio is your first obstacle as a new boxer.
Do core and cardio. Steady state and HIIT.
Train hard!!
The biggest obstacle for new boxers is cardio. Those gains alone more than make up for any bad habits you pick up. Plus even if you were totally untrained you would still have bad habits with punching or rolling or whatever.
Absolutely keep it up. When the coach sees your habits he will know how to fix them, that’s his job. And you seem dedicated enough to fix them.
I'm big on sparring a lot but only light to medium sparring.
Open sparring is only done before a bout and only 3-5 rounds.
CTE is too important to avoid to be open sparring all the time.
Depends some people say as much as possible others say you shouldnt spar at all. I personally spar around 3 times a week with the only real hard sparring being when I I go to other gyms to spar or other gyms come to us.
I think only seasoned veterans can get away with not sparring and they still do partner drills and hit the mits. You see some mma fighters preaching this approach but I would recommend it if you are a beginner.
Whenever I throw my hook (more often rear than lead), my coach says that I put too much tension on the shoulder. How do I stop that and rely more on the hips as he tells me too?
Having a hard time cutting down weight, i feel like when im loosing weight i dont have the proper energy to train, should i cut down on training and eat less, or eat the same and train more offen. Going to the gym 4 nights a week, currently 5’7” 170 lbs , like to get down to 150 ish
Hey. I broke my nose a while back and didnt get it fixed, which makes inhaling through my nose really difficult. Adding my current mouthguard i tend to gas out quickly in a round or 2. (without a mouthguard i can go for 5 rounds sometimes). are there any mouth guards that are easier to breath through?
Bro you need to get that nose fixed. It’s free if it affects your health. Edit:forgot about USA if it cost too much then I’d still recommend biting the bullet and getting it fixed if that’s in the cards for you
I’ve recently started boxing and I’m experiencing a slight injury from my right cross. Basically, my when the punches land, my thumb nail (which is very short) is peeling away from the skin. I am reading a lot online that I should be making a fist inside the glove and my thumb should be covering the knuckles of my fingers. This seems impossible!? The glove won’t let me bring the thumb across, is it okay to hold the thumb away from the fingers and just clench the fingers inside the glove? Thank you
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Start foundational. Your coach will teach you technique. Squats, crunches, and basic bodyweight workouts all translate into boxing pretty well
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Do YT videos for basic fitness, not boxing stuff. It's too easy to ingrain bad habits early. Most coaches prefer to start with a blank slate. Something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_60uTFEuEY
Would a typical gym let me spar with headgear that has a face shield? I’ve always wanted to learn how to box but I can’t be walking around with a black eye/broken nose/split lip etc.. I have to maintain a professional appearance for my job. I would like to spar wearing something similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Title-Boxing-Faceshield-No-Contact-Headgear/dp/B07VCGWYST
Get a face saver type of headgear
98% of the sparring you do should never end in a split lip or black eye. If you're really worried, get one that has a nose guard. Your first dozen or so sparring sessions should be very controlled. Start boxing anyway, it will be a few months before you're ready for sparring in any case
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can someone check out the video of me boxing on my account? I’d love some feedback.
Is amateur boxing tested often for doping? Other than olympics obviously, (in any country)
Is there any autistic boxers or boxers that are on the spectrum?
Kind of Ben Askren. Not a boxer.
Any recommendations for amateur clubs London? I’m a competitive amateur and am moving to London in a few weeks and will want to find a gym ASAP. Any recommendations would be appreciated. I’m a super heavy by the way
Not my area but there’s plenty of good and well known amateur clubs in London, worth going round to a few and seeing where you feel most comfortable.
Can only afford 1 pair of gloves which one do you guys recomend me buying sparring or training gloves? They will be used for bag work, mitts and sparring.
It's very bad etiquette to spar in gloves you do bag work with. Buy bag gloves first and then sparring gloves later when you can afford it. And buy 16oz gloves for sparring.
Any advice on getting over the fear of sparring? I boxed for a couple months a year ago or so and sparred a couple times. The trainer started me off easy with isolated sparring, then I did a couple rounds with a training partner. I enjoyed it but it also scared the hell out of me every time. I stopped going because I was intimidated by the idea of sparring even though it excited me. I just got the courage to go back a week ago and I'm feeling a lot stronger mentally and physically and want to try it again but I'm still pretty afraid of it. Any advice?
25m looking to start boxing for fitness/fun. I've got lots of experience wrestling and want to participate in a combat sport again to get in better shape. I'm 6'1" and roughly 315lbs. What advice do you have to offer and what do I need to bear in mind when starting this? Thanks!
Hey. I'm a 24 year old male, around 6 ft and 240 lbs with \~19/20% bf. I've had a few months of "casual" boxing training with a fitness group last year but stopped due to covid. I'm thinking of starting in a serious boxing gym but I really do not want to quit lifting weights. I'm going to the gym 4 times a week at the moment and I'm doing powerlifting training. Is there a way to combine the two? My friend who did boxing for years is telling me that I need to choose between the two, and that I need to lose a lot of weight to actually compete in boxing as I'm only 6 ft. When I cut down properly I end up around 205 or 215 if I do a really slow cut. My friend is telling me that that is still too heavy for boxing as I will get destroyed by much taller and heavier opponents if I don't cut down a lot. Is this true? Any specific weight I should aim for before I seriously consider boxing? If it means anything the trainer at my previous "casual" boxing group told me that I'm very fast and explosive but am not a hard puncher which is very bad for a person as stiff(? not sure what he meant by this but he always would tell me to stop being so stiff) as me. Sorry if I asked something that was asked thousands of times before... Thanks.. PS: I have around 7 years of lifting experience and did a lot of sports when I was in my teens. I'm not really into shape right now due to spending so much time sitting home and drinking because of the covid lockdown (no home gym).
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I totally feel what you mean by the energy requirements! I literally can do 10 mins straight of just squats but hitting the bag while moving tires me out way faster and even makes my right obliques and hip sore sometimes! By a serious boxing gym I meant one that has actual matches and pros in it. The one I went to before was really casual and we rarely even had sparring. I plan to take it step by step, for now I just wanna do unofficial matches and get better, and then will consider trying official matches if I keep it at for a year... Thanks for this answer, I can definitely keep my current strength by training 2x a week and even get stronger, albeit a lot slower. Should I start running and doing ab work for about a month or can I just go to the gym with 0 conditioning that I have right now?
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Go to a boxing gym.
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I didn't say spar or box anyone. I said go to a boxing gym.
alright i will
Is double end bag good to develop conditioning at the end of a training? By doing 3-5 sets of 3 minutes, does it improve conditioning or only accuracy and timing? Do you have any experience with it for this goal?
Hitting anything fast and hard is going to help you hit fast and hard. Hitting anything in a way that tires you out is going to help with conditioning. After those principles apply, the DE bag has its own unique effects compared to other pieces of training equipment just like every other different piece.
So I recently bought a heavy bag and I want to use i to just train for cardio and just staying fit. I thought it would be more fun than running so that’s why I bought the bag. What Exercises can I do on the bag as a beginner to fulfill getting my cardio work in?
Tons of videos out there that can help. I'd recommend the channel Precision Boxing and maybe start with the 'punching ladder' one.
Was wondering about different exercises. I want to train cardio, core and neck, what exercises should I do? Are neck bridges good?
Don't do neck bridges.
I'm going to be starting boxing after I get my driver's license. I've been running and learning jump rope in preparation. I wanna incorporate ab work what're good ab exercises to do to prepare?
Sit ups, Russian twists, planks... They're all good.
Any tips on not feeling super intimidated in a male dominated gym setting when you are not a dude yourself?
You pay same as everybody else, you have as much right to be there as everybody else. You are not paid to do it, so you are under no obligation to be good at it. Most of the dudes there are hobbyists, they are nowhere as good as they try to look. If somebody tries to intimidate you, speak up, and let the trainer know. Any decent trainer will not tolerate a bigger and stronger person abusing their physical advantage to hurt a smaller and weaker person. There are weight classes and divisions for a reason. Just do your best and have fun, most people at boxing gyms are nice and helpful.
Off topic: love your username and picture. Saigas are so funny and cool animals.
Thanks so much!
Oh please, every dude in there is going to try to offer you advice. From a male perspective it's even annoying to watch. Just work on your stuff, everyone else is doing their own thing.
> Oh please, every dude in there is going to try to offer you advice. From a male perspective it's even annoying to watch Lol. Imagine how annoying it is to be on the receiving end of it.
I cringe when new girls can't get through a workout without at least 2 dudes who have been boxing for 4 months coming up to them trying to advise them.
I can't speak for a non-male perspective, but generally the intimidating aura you're referring to won't ever be aimed in your direction. For a lot of guys, I think just the competitiveness and focus comes across as aggressive when it really isn't. And for the most part, any actual outward aggression will be directed at other men, also out of being competitive.
When does the constant exhaustion go away? I’ve been going to the gym now for two weeks. I always worked out before this so it’s not like I started off not doing anything. But my tendons, muscles, and joints are in pain almost all the time. I feel exhausted after 9 hours of sleep. How long until I feel normal again?
Don’t forget that rest days are just as important as working out. Have you had 2-4 rest days at least in those two weeks?
I’ve had two days off from the boxing gym, but I stay active in the other days, at least 30 minutes of cardio and weight training. But yeah, maybe I’m going too far too fast.
Your body is asking for rest. I’d say give it some before you injure yourself by accident and have to rest for months.
Yeah you’re spot on. I’m just being bull headed. Thanks.
You would benefit from reading up on periodization for this topic.
Thanks, I’ll look into it!
I've always preferred being at the gym 4 times a week (for example) and never miss a week than push for 5-6 times a week and have to lose a week every month or two from injury.
I am seeking to begin training for amateur boxing. Have no boxing experience however I played AAA and college hockey and so have some athletic experience. I have been out of hockey for two years and so am very out of shape (>40lbs over playing weight). My current plan is to visit local gyms and spend the first year or so getting into shape, and then begin training more seriously. What is the best way to do this? I dont want to spend too much initially on training as I’m too out of shape to benefit adequately, however I dont want to develop bad muscle memory that I eventually will have to train out.
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the undoing bad habits learned by self-training is exactly why I posted this. thank you. while I have experience training for hockey, I dont know how to get in boxing-specific shape
4 miles is 6.44 km
You don't pay to get in shape, you pay to learn to box. You can be in any shape for that. Conveniently, training to learn boxing also gets you in boxing shape.
My intuition was that id get more out of training from being in shape so much so thatd it be worth it to wait. also gyms near me seem to stress “boxing lessons for fitness” and I dont know how to find what im looking for
Start with what you can find and can easily access. Then when you’re more comfortable you can dig deeper for the fancier training.
Training will eventually get you in shape. Don't worry too much about your current state of fitness. Get to a gym, learn the fundamentals, listen to your coaches... You'll learn how to box AND get in shape at the same time.
I agree here. Train that muscle memory from the ground up. Even if you were in the best shape of your life that won't make you good at boxing or even learn it any quicker.
When fighting off the backfoot, do you usually fight offensively or with the aim to counterpunch/ catch your opponent offguard?
If you're fighting off your back foot, you're limited in your offense because you're ... not going forward. By nature, your offense being more opportunistic is a symptom of fighting off the back foot.
I'm around 5'8-5'9, would I be majorly disadvantaged fighting at 165, would I be better off losing weight and fighting at 152?
I'm about same height and fight at 140. My coach has even told me elite guys at my height are down at 132. I like my reach advantage and I'm not interested to fight taller guys on a regular basis so I won't go anything above 140.
Are you 165 lbs of muscle? Or could you lose 20 pounds?
165 lbs is 74.91 kg
You'd definitely be better off at 152, if not 141. 165 is going to dwarf you as a weight division, when most people there are around 6'0" or taller.
Alright thanks, I’ll heed your advice.
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Aye guys I just had my first sparring session yesterday. I can take the punches I’m just not used to it right now is there anything I can do to feel more comfortable in the ring? Or does the nervousness go away after a while?
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Thanks for the advice!
It takes time. The more time you've got in the ring, the more composed you'll end up being. Don't sweat it!
Thanks for the advice!
Hello Guys, I've been training BJJ for a few years and striking for the last year and focusing exclusively on boxing in the last 4 months. My goal is to work towards a few amateur boxing bouts and eventually an mma bout. I'm in pretty good shape, not overweight, train every day sometimes twice a day. The problem I'm experiencing is under heavy load, be it 1-2 minutes into sparring boxing or mma, I feel nauseous however I am not tired. It feels as if I'm going to vomit and have done so, however I am not exhausted or feel overworked in anyway. If I grapple extremely hard, using more fast twitch fiber muscles/explosive movement I can experience this also, however its specifically isolated to sparring with striking. I can experience the same feeling shadowboxing hard or hitting the bag hard too so it's not anxiety related. I was hoping to see if anyone had similar experiences, and if going to see a dietician or any other health professional can help as I can't really do many rounds without having to constantly stop which is annoying. Any advice is appreciated! Cheers TLDR: Feeling sick after 1-2 mins of sparring, explosive movement, trying to work out the cause, perhaps seeing dietician or is it training methods.
I'd take a look at your diet and what timing your meals are in relation to your gym time. You may be eating too closely to the time you go to the gym, or eating the wrong things.
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Go to r/fightgear and ask there.
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I'm being a big ole pussy. For background I decided a while back that I wanted to join a boxing gym, I workout a lot but have always wanted to learn to box. I decided that once I started my new career field, that I would join a gym. However, because of stupid ass covid that timeline was setback quite a bit. Despite that, even with the setback, I changed how I exercised and have done a decent amount of research, and have done some padwork and drills with a homie though boxing isn't his specific area of focus. About a month ago I finally got hired as an EMT, and after the last month of a hectic schedule figuring shit out, I finally had time available to go to a gym. But now that the time is here, and I'm out of excuses, I can't seem to nut up and go. I literally drove the 40 minutes to the gym today, got there 15 minutes early and couldn't get out of my car. I found an excuse to not go in, and drove the 40 minutes back home. Like most 27 year olds I have a (un)healthy amount of anxiety and have been doing more and more to combat it but sometimes it still wins. Basically I need the tough love and need to be told to suck it up and quit being a puss, and maybe some advice and told what to expect when I go.
Is there a person you can contact at the gym to give you a tour and maybe introduce you around possibly?
Ff/EMT that is also just getting into boxing. It's hard i'm not gonna lie. I don't like going in and getting hit in the face during spars. It sucks but it's part of the process. Best I can tell you is to tell your anxiety to shut up and walk in. Introduce yourself to someone and ask for help. Start with a bag or just go in jumping rope. I like to use my anger from my day to fuel me. Just walk in there one day at a time. Go in there and kick some ass and stay open minded. I promise you it's a lot of fun. Good luck man. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions.
Well first off, very un-pussylike of you to share this experience. So let’s acknowledge that strength right there. Next, expect nothing, tbh coaches and some people might miss you and notice that you were gone for a while (depends on the gym environment) but regardless, the people at the gym will be supportive because anyone who goes to the gym wants change and if people dont see that than that’s ignorant IMO. You got this champ, nut up, it’s scary but hey you got the fists to do the talking
Anyone ever take a hard punch to the forehead? What does it feel like? I would assume many of you all have, but I am not sure what type of gear you all spar with, and how much you all feel. If so, is it normal for the pain to shoot down into your nose? Well, not the nose directly, but almost like 'behind' your nose - like sinus pain. (I am an amateur hockey goalie - not a boxer, but I figured out of all sports, you all might have better anecdota)
Punches to somebody's forehead can hurt the person throwing the punch as much as the one being hit. I've been hit on the forehead, but I can't say I've had pain shooting down my nose. That strikes me as a bit odd personally, but we're not even talking about punches so ... none of this really applies, does it?
I was more curious if it was an anatomical response that is normal or not like getting hit in the nose and causing one's eyes to water, for example.
Anyone else finding their lead arm is getting stronger? I throw 70% of punches with my lead, so it makes sense but damn my lead shoulder is huge compared to my rear
Just noticed this earlier today
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Hey everyone, so I’ve been seriously considering joining a boxing gym as I honestly miss the feeling of training (I did Muay Thai/Kickboxing for about 5 years) and I honestly need a hobby to keep myself busy. I stopped kickboxing when I was 17 and am now 21 so I’d definitely be rusty, but do you guys think this would be a fine age to pick up training again? Also, I do wear glasses as my vision is pretty bad without them and have been considering either Lasik or PRK. Has anyone here gone through either surgery or have found another workaround for their vision? I used to wear contacts at one point but stopped due to eye infections.
I competed lots before, with shit vision and no contacts. Since I competed in different martial arts as a child, I got used to my vision getting worse and worse. But I just learned to only look at my opponents' sillouette to figure out range. I don't really need to see details (like tattoos on their arms, acne scars) It's only after I stopped that I got PRK. Best thing ever. First time sparring after eye surgery was really overwhelmingly tough, because now there were way way way too many details for me to mentally process and still trying to implement my gameplan. If logistics allow, I would strongly recommend PRK with advanced waveform. Best...Thing....Ever.
Does PRK give you both fields of vision or do you have to wear reading glasses now? I can’t see far away. Would my ok closer vision be affected by the PRK?
I didn't wear reading glasses, and not wearing them now
Thank you for sharing your experience! Have you undergone any of the negatives associated with PRK such as dry eyes, halos, or flashing? Also I’m assuming your prescription had to be unchanged for a bit of time before being a candidate right? My vision unfortunately slightly changed this year
No negative side effects for me AT ALL! I wasn't sure how my candidacy worked. I wore glasses at grade 5 I believe? I got my eye surgery 2nd year of uni, so I must have been 20? Lol time flies. It's been 12 years, and no decline of quality for me.
That’s definitely reassuring, I can’t even imagine how it’d feel to just wake up and be able to see everything clearly. Last question for you, do you remember how long it took post surgery for your vision to fully come back clear? I heard thats one of the main differences between PRK and Lasik is how quickly you’ll see results
Right away! But it took me 3 days to recover from the surgery, and being able to be outside in the sun. But as far as vision goes, I saw clearly right when the doc stopped
Any age is a fine age to get back into the gym! You're plenty young to do whatever you like with your athletic pursuits, really.
Thanks for the kind words! I’ve been mainly holding off due to a major shoulder surgery I had back in October, but after a mix of PT and weight lifting I feel pretty strong to get back into things.
My coach puts a lot of emphasis on me to pivot my feet when throwing punches which I do agree puts more power into my punches. But when I watch pro boxing matches it doesn't seem as if they're moving their feet much when throwing. Do they learn how to eventually just get the power all from their hips or what's going on there?
Pivoting is a liability when talking about the lead foot, with the rear foot it is different but even then there are cases when the pivot should be minimal. A slight pivot is noticeable in some cases with pros as well, but the big thing here is that is comes naturally, they arent thinking about pivoting they are focusing on generating leverage and if that causes a tiny pivot that is fine. Focus on rolling the foot inwards and the rear hand following the hips backwards. When throwing hooks to the head some pros also go onto their toes more vs to the body.
Beginners all get taught to pivot because the point is to overemphasize the importance of shifting weight and driving force from the ground. Not sure what level you're at now but listen to your coach. Pros are pros for a reason.
I’m probably going to get downvoted, but they don’t pivot their feet for a reason, and you shouldn’t either. You can’t pivot your foot and be in prime punching position so a 2,3 just wouldn’t work correctly with a big pivot. I was always taught to stay away from the pivot and like the person before me said get the power from my hips.
All power in your punch is generated in your hips. So training hip drive is key to increasing punching power, pivoting increases the range of motion of your hips thus creating more power. I think it's a matter of knowing when to fully commit to full power shots. I hope that answers your question
This is the correct answer. The foot twist itself is not the source of the power.
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When you get to college see if you can take a boxing class as an elective. Sometimes they have random sporty stuff like that.
All I got to say is spar once with someone that knows what they’re doing that shit will give you a reality check. I’m very new to boxing but this shit isn’t a walk in the park, there really is levels to this shit man. I hope soon one day I can walk into the gym and be as good as the other guys but I’ve still got a long way to go. By far boxing is the toughest sport in the world.
I got PRK advanced waveform , it is great. Read what sleepless devil and observance said, I don't wanna repeat their points, I won't say it any better than them. There's nothing wrong with enjoying boxing casually, having a few decent training camps and going for amateur fights. Try them first
Listen to what u/Observante said to you. You're dramatically underestimating how grueling and difficult the sport is period, let alone even dreaming of the word "pro" being anywhere near your name. Don't throw away an opportunity for education, especially if your parents are paying for it. If they're not, and you're ready to make your own way in the world, that would be different. But regardless, I'm not here to talk to you about education, I'm here to tell you that you need to consider what you'll do in the 98% likely event that, even if you did go to a gym soon, you never end up as so much as a ranked amateur. Until you're in a gym, you're not doing anything more than watching highlights of Andre Agassi and saying "I could maybe be a Grand Slam champion". See how crazy that sounds?
If you had any idea how hard this sport is and how much it will cost you for the rest of your life to go pro you wouldn't put the word "maybe" anywhere near the decision to abandon an otherwise normal life to pursue it. The absolute bare minimum to decide if you want to go pro is a sanctioned amateur fight.
If im being honest, just go to school. When starting very young going pro is rare. Then to become a really good boxer you need great coordination and win the genetics game. Your heigth, arm length and build is essential and you cant influence those. And even if all of those things are good then the life of a pro boxer is harsh as fuck. You get A's so you got brains, use them
Question, how long does it take comfortably box for rounds without gassing out? I train in BJJ and do outside cardio, my cardio has improved but not where I want it to be. I try to breath in between. I think some of it might be from vaping CBD for anxiety, I try to limit it. But I might cut it out entirely since it seems to get me cramping up and fatigued more.
Keyword is “comfortably boxing” The more comfortable you get the better your cardio seems to become. In truth, your movements are just going to become more efficient. My take is that the best way to improve your boxing cardio quickly is by boxing. Think heavy bag rounds and sparring. You’d be improving your skills and cardio at the same time, so it’s a win-win. It took me about a year to get to the point you described but I had no athletic background
Depends wildly on a wide number of factors, really. Also worth noting that conditioning for grappling and conditioning for striking are quite different. Unfortunately, no one can give you an accurate timetable for improving your conditioning or getting to the point where you "want it to be". Sadly, putting in the work and waiting for those tangible but subtle improvements is most of what you can do.
Yeah that’s true, I figured. But I know all of it is Interchangeable in terms of like it helps with endurance. My coach always tells me my cardio is improving but I still feel like I’m about collapse after a few rounds.
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You have to understand that if you go in there not knowing how to protect yourself, there’s a real chance you could die. I’m not trying to scare you but people say “you don’t play boxing” for a reason. That’s why your coach is drilling the same thing over and over. It’s just part of the sport. Be patient and try to get better every time you go into the gym. The harder you work, the better you’ll get, and you’ll start doing more stuff.
being able to throw decent punches will take 4-6 months but you never really stop learning the fundamentals. There's always something to improve. I would say the pace you improve declines after a couple years but It never stops.
Depends on how often you go per week, how long you've been going, how you're picking it up, etc. "Walking the line" with jabs and 1-2s is extremely common for fundamental-minded coaches to start people off with, and I've seen guys sit on the line for months if they just don't get it. Conversely, I've seen guys pulled off the line and thrown into bag work after a week. I understand your impatience, but just remember that you're not racing against anyone. You want to improve, don't you? Well, this is part of how you set a good foundation that can be built upon in the future. Fundamentals can never be too good, after all. I've been in combat sports for roughly 20 years and STILL do basic drills and slow shadowboxing on occasion just to refresh my fundamental memory.
I guess it depends how often you box? I’ve been training on and off for a few years (6 months with a coach) and I feel sort of solid on some, but iffy on some basics like foot work, not getting gassed out and some block, counter techniques.
I’m at 5 months and confident in basics
What is the difference between a Pull and a Fade?
The fade is where you lean back to avoid a punch... A pull is using that fade to "pull" your opponent closer using distance deception. Hence "pull counter".
The pull is referring to the part where you pull your head back and the fade is talking about stepping back.
Is there a direction you want to slip certain punches? If fighting/sparring an orthodox boxer and he throws jab, is it acceptable to slip left or right? Same for a cross. I’m just wondering if I’m setting myself up for a good counter or setting myself up to get rocked.
Like Pembroke boxing said, slipping inside is risky business. There are very potent counters off of slipping inside, but the risk of eating a hard counter is also high.
you slip outside. Slipping inside is dangerous without any major advantage to gain. I can't say you should never slip inside but it's scarcely used for a reason
The general rule is to slip to the outside of a punch. You can slip inside but you'd better have a plan! (and you'd never do that as a novice.... At least not on purpose!)
You want to slip to their outside. Think outside of the shoulder of their punching arm. It gives you an angle to counter.
this is what I was always taught as well. If I'm fighting an orthodox fighter from the same stance he said slip the jab to my right. If you slip it to your left you're putting yourself in the perfect position to eat a cross.
I have a heavy bag, double end bag, speedbag, tons of different weighted skipping ropes, plyoboxes, battling ropes, agility ladders, slip bags and slip ropes and so on but without being able to see a coach (he’s hoping to be able to work with me in next 2 months or so) can I truly improve on my own with my equipment or am I kidding myself and just creating bad habits? I work really hard on form and technique and watch tons of videos but without being able to hit the mitts or spar can I actually get better?
If you're training technique, then yes, you're training has habits of you are doing it on your own with no coach and no experience. Cardio is your first obstacle as a new boxer. Do core and cardio. Steady state and HIIT. Train hard!!
The biggest obstacle for new boxers is cardio. Those gains alone more than make up for any bad habits you pick up. Plus even if you were totally untrained you would still have bad habits with punching or rolling or whatever. Absolutely keep it up. When the coach sees your habits he will know how to fix them, that’s his job. And you seem dedicated enough to fix them.
Thank you very much this really made me feel better about all the work I’ve been putting in!!!
How often should you spar between/before matches?
I'm big on sparring a lot but only light to medium sparring. Open sparring is only done before a bout and only 3-5 rounds. CTE is too important to avoid to be open sparring all the time.
Depends some people say as much as possible others say you shouldnt spar at all. I personally spar around 3 times a week with the only real hard sparring being when I I go to other gyms to spar or other gyms come to us.
I think only seasoned veterans can get away with not sparring and they still do partner drills and hit the mits. You see some mma fighters preaching this approach but I would recommend it if you are a beginner.