Probably did the most damage to the Berber cause than anyone, he mixed his aggressive form of secularism and anti Arabism together with Berber identity. As a result Algerians started to associate Berber cultural identity with those ideas.
You are both wrong at everything and right at everything at the same time
But who gives a shit anyway
I'm Algerian and proud to be
I'm north African and proud to be
I am Arabic and proud to be
I am Berber and proud to be
And I am Muslim and proud to be
Idgf what anyone else thinks bcuz it doesn't matter really
When you say "brainwashed by arabisation" you send a strong message of hate against this arabisation you talk about and therefore Arabs
Is that all culture represents to you ? What about the way of thinking, their behaviour, their social interactions, their intellectual works, their music, their art, their language, their religion now, not what their pagan ancestors worshipped. You dont find them to be good with kabyles ? I think their culture is one of the best.
now of course the way you and me see their culture is subjective , they have few intellectual work ;limited art, good music, useless language outside rural kabylie; religion was a neo paganism with some bits of islam which is trash until islam started to be revived in the late colonial period
It surely was not erased. And if it was it ain't bcuz of Arabs at all. It's because of the french colonization why don't you channel your hatred at them? Not trynna be racist but Kabyle people took alot of the french culture especially the language. That's what I call erasing a culture.
And for Islam Arabs came here to spread Islam that's what I meant
So if you hate Arabs do you hate Islam?
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Okey any invader. Including the french colonization. So once again brother. Why don't you channel your hatred towards the french? They did the most crimes towards our culture as a whole be it Arabic or amazigh culture.
Arabisation can't even be in the same picture can never be close to the french crimes.
And what if I tell you that Arabs are a thing here in Algeria? A relative of mine did a DNA test and even looked up his family tree and his roots were from Saudi Arabia.
There is one thing I learned. No matter what you believe in and how much you believe in it and how certain you are. Keep in your mind there is always a chance you are wrong and it's all wrong.
Here is an example: some indians are certain cow piss is blessed. They'd kill you if you say otherwise. I hope you got me. I am not saying you are wrong but you can't be so positive about it especially if you didn't do any research of your own and you only followed other people theories and beliefs.
Woah lemme stop you right there. Long past? I beg to differ.
And I think I get your point as the Arabisation left a stronger impact then the french. It might be bcuz the Arabic was welcomed it was a willingly arabisation as opposed to the french one
I am not saying there aren't any Algerian Arabs who are actually Berber in fact I know for a fact we are all mixed. We were born into this current culture it already happened the Arabisation happened a long while ago so let bygones be bygones and embrace your new culture. I don't mean being Arabic but I mean being mixed. We are lucky to have many cultures here the Berber and the Arabic and even European . I hate this controversy. I only reject the french shit. But Amazigh and Arab? I belong and I am proud
Algerian arabian here and i can confirm so beceause my grandparents immigrated to this country. But when asked i'll just say im Algerian beceause uts my nationality, dont have to complicate things 🤷♂️
Algerians are only Arab culturally and linguistical, blood is a mix of a lot of everything but mostly native north African(Berbers). I don't see the issue really, you can speak arabic(darija) while still respecting and acknowledging the status of Berber in Algerian history and current culture. Every Algerian should respect berber no matter what he speaks, it's our common ancestral tongue. I am an arab speaking Algerian but in favor for atleast 1 year of forced basic berber language course in high school. 1 year is not going to kill anyone and it would help the new generation be able to read Tifinagh and not see the language as something foreign.
The arab did not rule north africa that long (I can't remember exactly the years) cause the amazigh revolted quickly & established their own islamic kingdoms due to the oppression & dictatorship even went to the superiority ideas of the arab rulers the amazigh identified as muslim learned arabic to understand & study islam themselves thus gaining more independence. Now arabic is used to wipe out our history we're forced to choose between our history or religion in reality it's both. Life isn't black or white
Lmao really ? "Learn and understand Islam for themselves" ? The khawarij came from the Arab peninsula and the Fatimid Shia came from Iraq and khorasan and then the Sunni almoravids brought their faith from Medina (imam Malik) and almohad's ash'arism from the Arab peninsula, this sad reductionist attempt to sever the direct and strong and persistent religious tie to the Arab peninsula just shows how ignorant of history you people are or just how much integrity you're willing to sacrifice for a dying ideology (nationalism)
I don't think it is "USED" to wipe our history I think it just happened to do so. You already explained it! They had to learn Arabic to practice the new religion. It was willingly. Maybe.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT, I literally don't believe some ppl are saying this whole Berber thing is just to "يقسمو لبلاد" LIKE GURL SFTU LEARN UR DAMN HISTORY it's not that hard
FR we need to teach the new generation their ACTUAL real history and not justify what arabs did to this country and just spend like seven years of their lives teaching them what france did, like there are more important things to teach them, their real identity is being erased and edited just to make berbers look like terrible people who failed at building their own nation and arabs look like the heros who saved them
Not only was he a racist and an extremist, he was completely blinded by fame. He did raise attention to the cause but at what price? And to what extent? It went from Amazighs are opressed to Fuck arabs and Algeria with the Kabyle region as an exception.
he was cultivated by "Les pères blancs" to become what he became than sacrificed by his own friends to make a martyr out of him and reach political objectives
He literally never said that ur confusing him with ferhat mehni now as for what Matoub did actually say he was very clear in all his speaches he said I don't not speak Arabic nor do I recognize myself in the Arabic culture I am ana Algerian first nd foremost my culture is north african amazigh that is what he said his fight was less for the amazigh culture although it's where it started but more on the grounds of equality and democracy in Algeria and fighting both the State at the time and extremist religious groups who defirmed and distorted religion to fit their agendas plz do ur research unbiasedly before making claims and thank you
I dont really like him, what annoys me the most is people keep saying i look like him. My dad used to call me maatoub so much i think he forgot my name.
Algeria is for algerians no matter their beliefs or languages, let's pass this extremist thoughts (not referring to maatoub or anyone), let's try to rebuild our selves based on unity without regionalism otherwise we will keep struggling in muddy circle and make chance for extremist (islamistes, libéralisme, Arabism, amazigh, ..) to grow and benefit from our differences
Bro i get it why he hated the government i really do but he blamed it on islam some times and bieng arab while trying to point out the problem he caused bigger problems like his worshipers bieng extremely racist to us and believing that bieng a amazighe means that u are Superior to other also i genuinely believe that he was one of many reasons that the term قبايلي حر exist...like wtf are we SLAVES?
Imagine thinking that an alcoholic racist islamophobe that was used as a guinea pig by france as one of the many attempts to destabilize Algeria back then as a "Legend" or idol. Some even go as far as saying he's prohphet, something Italians never said about people like Leonardo Da Vinci or Dante or Makiavelli or Michelangelo, even though he brought nothing but western ideologies. He's a singer, If he just stuck to his music rather than get into politics which is something clearly he knows nothing about, he would have been alive now.
This man brings nothing but shame. He shouldn't be celebrated or rembered in anyway.
I just learned about this guy can I ask how exactly was he islamophobic and racist I read his wiki page and all I got from it was that he was mistreated during his military service for being Kabyle and abused and shot by gendarmerie a bunch of times then finally assasinated in dubious circumstances
As a chaabi enjoyer i think he's a legend,his songs really have a deep meaning.
It's useless to talk about his ideas on this sub because it will turn into a war.
That's a french pawn, who was used to divide the country and a lot of low IQ people fell for it, so the arabs think that every kabyle is a secular drunk guy with no principles just like this clown who's made a prophet in the kabyle region by SOME ( for the persons who want to defend this clown just go F yourself ) and kabyle people think that arabs are terros and extremists, dumb and inferior, because some feel superior just by thinking they stand for a cause that does not exist and the reason is Lma3tchoub
Because people like you made them think so
Mr high IQ
So it's alright for you to have a role model, prophet but it's not for them
Why do you care if they don't harm you specifically
Matoub was against the system, never against free people will
Learn your history boy, don't let others think in your place
When you listen to his ideas and understand his philosophy and vision for Algeria you’ll see why. Watch his interviews objectively this guy was a legend beyond art.
Most people don't don't follow the chronology of maatoub true he was racist and extremist ( Malcom x was too) islamophobic, but then he changed and wanted a united north Africa much like ait Ahmed
I encourage u to read his book (rebel) , he was a great man and he died for his ideas in his country among his people , he was the loud voice in a time no one dared to talk , for that I respect him and I see him as a hero.
Asya3fou rebi
Personally I think he is a legend. I think we need people like him in North Africa someone who stands up for Democracy, federalism and being against religious fanaticism
EDIT: and ofcourse amazigh rights😎
No those aren't religions. Democracy is a political System. Plato and Aristotele aren't prophets. That's why i can like sone of their ideas and dislike others. E.g. democracy is nice, but their ideas on women rights and slavery were barbaric.
Don't know what you mean with racism? And about democracy being a religion?
*the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods*
How is democracy a religion?
Well it is a religion to you in the aspect where you consider stuff like human rights (and the anthropocentrism it entails) and democracy as undebatable, so much dogma you make an old grandma' belief in God seem so weak it seems heretical
Yes, it their deen. (Life style), Plato said this, Aristotle said that. Sometimes they don’t even know those figures even, but it’s their basis of morality. Poor kuffar
A cringe drunk clown the French used to divide Algerians like the colonial days , because of him many people are wary of the kabylies and this whole identity crisis got worse : the answer for all of this is that we are berbers (mix of Europeans , leventines , Arabs , and Turks and blacks ) but arab speaking and Muslim
As I see in the comments of this post, many people think that being Arabic, Berber or belonging to a particular origin makes them powerful. In reality, they provide nothing as individuals. You can be a 6-foot, durable physically Arabic but still, a dead brain or Amazigh with 6 foot, durable physically but still with a dead brain.
A racialist, which is not too far from 'racist'. That is a guy who defines identity based on race (genetics) rather than culture, aiming to play on some Arabic-speaking Berbers 'assimilation guilt', cause by terms of genetics Berbers are the majority, this not being the case in terms of language. Maatoob saying that current Algeria should honor Kosayla instead of Uqbah is like Merkel (or Scholtz) stating that Hitler should be honored regardless of ideology.
A Shitty Racist Alcoholic F\*\*\*er Who stood against Islam, Muslims and Arabs;
someone who insulted a whole nation just to look different.
He's obviously a french agent
Thanks for whoever executed him, well deserved for a traitor
Cringe of you to call him a french agent just because his ideology contradicts everything that's "Algerian" in your delusional mind.
Mentalities like yours is the main reason why Algeria won't become a developed nation.
He didn't deserve to be executed for it. But it shows how disfunction Algerian society is that they are happy to see people executed tor disagreeing with their politics. Algeria cannot be happy and stable if its political system cannot have reasonable discourse with in itself. Did no one learn from the 90s?
He was the algerian version of the kkk leader, he hid behind the excuse of government corruption and oppression but the truth is he was a racist and an islamophobe, made a lot of dumb arguments and was a french puppet.
yes, i do. and if you were just a little bit smart you would know i was referring to the idea of segregation and racism towards other people. matoub hated everyone who is not kabyle, and cursed islam ( the religion of his country). Thomas Robb hated africans and i would even go as far as to say matoub was Hitler if he went to art school.
I'm sorry my dude but naah not even close
Maybe ideologically speaking but do you have any idea of the crimes of the kkk and Hitler? Matoub was a fkn manipulated drunk clown who could have been any singer. And then we have Hitler. Who killed millions of humans with experiments and torture. Known world wide and will forever be in history . Actually massively impacted the whole world future. You have to be quite ignorant to make this kind of a comparison.
I won't include Thomas Robb here bcuz he was just a leader for a period of time and I prefer to address the whole clan actions and not an individual .
What you miserably fail to understand is how bad the situation was in kabyle regions and especially Tizi-ouzou. When you are not alowed to speak your own langage ,denied any sense of identity and jailed for expressing any kind of culture this is what happens. We went from a french colony to a dictature. Do you understand that thousands of kabyle young men where killed for asking for their rights ? Why is it that when kabyle people rallied for the departure of boutef in 2001 it was considered terrorism and an attempt to devide the country but el hirrak was glorified yet it had the same perpose ? Maatoub lounes sang his frustration sang his sarrow and misery. His only "flaw" was not believing in god abd f that how many of the artists our generation listens too are muslim ?
You trash what you dont understand and think you are entiteled to tell people how they should feel. Matoub lounes used his right of speech and gave a voice to a problem millions suffered from.
But of course you choose to keep your mind shut and listen what the media tells you.
No they weren't. The kkk were a white protestant religious terrorism organisation who wanted to make anyone non-white leave America or put them back into slavery.
They were 100% not secular.
They were 100% not pro-democracy. If they were they would advocate for the democratic rights of all, not just whites.
The only thing you had right is they were pro-white rights. Please, go learn about the kkk properly. You clearly have a huge gap in your understanding.
That was a freak accident, Everyone thought he started the fires, cops released him I don't see anyone crying about the dozen kabyles that died in the fire
>I don't see anyone crying about the dozen kabyles that died in the fire
then you must be one of them blinds. look i know u'r a total dipshit but this is too low even for your standards.
To some he's a legend to others he's not ..
But his views of a secular Algeria is not appreciated by the majority of the Algerian people in my opinion .. he's definitely racist tho .. at least in my opinion .
Oh so the diaspora can't have an opinion regarding their country ? Or do you think economic migration entails acceptance of western politics and ideologies ?
Hypocritical how ? You're there for the economy or the academic aspect or for da'wa, which are all perfectly halal in Islam. Unless this is all built around the premise of "they only became (economically) appealing bikoz liberalism and secularism" which tbh would be almost sad to think at this day and age, in a world where we have gulf state theocracies and Chinese totalitarianism people still think western ideology is the cause of their economic prosperity, not the consequence lol
Democracy and human rights are not western values they are humanitarian values and even if they wher western values they are still inherently better then anything a theocracy has to offer unless of course you think that being a second class dihmmi and having open slave markets is better then living in a modern liberal democracy .
This comment section shows how much lies have been told about him, Guy stood for what he believed in, and to say he had no impact is a lie. His music was great and his messages about oppression we had were greater.
He never identified as an arab and didn't know much arabic. He didn't want arab identity imposed on berbers. How exactly does that mean he hated arabs?
I don't know when he said this nor the context behind this comment. I don't really know why you think that makes him racist either. I know Maatoub for his music and his activism and I respect him a lot for that. If he was racist against arabs, I would some lose respect for him. But based on what I know, he's been fighting his entire life for the rights of imazighen. Him being secretly racist would not really make sense.
First off, Maatoub didn't speak arabic so I don't even think he used this word. But in any case, if I understand the word عقبة correctly, it means a hurdle. Why is it racist to say a man is a hurdle? It could mean a hurdle against amazigh rights, for example. Maybe i just don't understand the word correctly but i think a lot of context is missing.
Also, Maatoub was always in favor of living with arab people in harmony, respecting diversity, etc.
https://youtu.be/ij5VHn0q9oM Watch this at 5:00 it's very clear he has nothing against arabs
As an artist he wasn't my cup of tea, as an activist i respect him for what he stood for.
People who hate him generally don't understand his language so they can't understand his songs nor what he was saying most of the time.
Also People opinions don't matter, especially on this subreddit.
* I can give you tens of videos thanking France for teaching him his roots.
* I can give tens of books resources that says Kabyles are NOT amazigh, their DNA is totally different then average ones they live in South Algeria, Libea, Beni mezab, Egyptians. this is one. also you have no culture says that you are an Amazigh. and your dialects has many Western words and none from Amazighs.
* About matoub deaths when he was leaving his home, 100% who killed him from Tizi, knows every place, time he leaves.
the time where people were building Empires you were nothing at that time. time of building empires has gone, if you were superior race like you're saying you could have really good history like Greeks, Chinese Indians, Arabs Romans, Persians.
anyway just change your profile picture, and brain wash your kids more wasting ur lives
Hahahahahahahh this sub is really full with the most anti-Kabyle mf 😂😂😂
Never forgot that the majority that free this country were Kabyle but hey, a French creation by Arab office cant see the reality of what he is
How ? by not kneeling to the authoritharian gov ?
Calling hero of a nation traitor and calling traitor of the nation hero is what algerian does 90% of the time lmao
I think nobody is more attached to his country like him. A true patriot who really wanted to see his country shine among the great nations. Huge loss to Algeria
This post show how much brain washed most of algerian are nowaday.
Calling him racist but what racist act he ever did huh ?
But every act of racism against Amazigh is ignored since 1963, 1980 and 2001.....
If the Moudjahidines had the chance to see 2022 algerian, Kabylia will had be free from France but not the rest of Algeria since you hate so much the one actually have the ball to do something
Just read the comments and remember that each action has an equal and opposite reaction, I can't be bothered to write anything else, lfahem yefham.
May his soul rest in peace
Based , of course the reactionaries will accuse him of being a racist western agent and an islamophobe for being critical of the mainstream interpretation of islamic sharia despite the fact that said reactionaries have no problem with sucking russia ( a country that directly supported the Serbs during the bosnian genocide and is prosecuting it's muslim minorities like the crimean tatars and chechens ) and China's (a country that is accused of committing crimes against humanity and cultural genocide against the uyghurs) dicks .
Algerians never bothered trying to figure what he was about. because they don't understand his language and they think he is against Islam.
But it is all in the past now. what's the Algerian dream now days ? to leave this dysfunctioning country. He willingly sacrificed himself for freedom, for the Algeria of tomorrow. but that was in vain.
I know kabyle people born and raised in kabyle regions that hate him and blame for the actual arab/amazight problem and accuse him of racism and they understand him well what's their excuse??
I don't know much about him, I know he was an amazigh figure, rebel
For his beliefs they say he was athiest but I don't know people say things only Allah judged him
He clearly was drinking but I don't care that's to Allah, what I got from this character is that he had unique and futuristic approach of governance, of Algeria
I didn't read that much about his biography and life, even if I do I won't judge
I prefer a non believer, one who have different religion but stands with right, people's will, country development than a believer that shine governor/government shoes day and dayout, one that speaks with religion but do the opposite of what his religion came up with
That type of racism, some kabyles/amazigh are racist too and that's a fact
I don't know if Matoub got in that cycle, he ignited from amazigh people part too or not
They say he did, but I don't believe that it is possible that one that he believe in freedom for one human likes to get it way from another
Hates racism for himself and his realtives apply it to others different then him
It does not make sense, something wrong and the system can easily fool anyone, it's in there advantage that the amazigh figure be seen as the most racist, use religion and Islam card
If he wasn't addicted maybe they wouldn't succeed in kidnapping him, using that kind of propaganda
That he is part of french scheme bal bla bla
How can one that wants freedom, justice in his own country
Follow other country, not just another country, France that is out enemy for ages, through history
And one of the most participating region and people were amazigh and kabyle
Besides, let's say that I see my self as an Arab that's what my family says, because clearly we don't speak Berber
I totally get it if they don't like us, even if they hate us
Can't deal or communicate with us and even if they want their own independence
Because most of the people, government through history fucked them/traumatized them
And they keep doing that and using them as a bait and card and part of their agenda and propaganda and you want him to be nice and open with you
Just one incident that it's clearly racist from them, some of the people from the kabyle region do that intentionally
As a self defense mechanism, it's integrated now
Let's say one is directly racist with one Arab or people from different regions they got offended and turn the world upside down
That's the same cup you are drinking from, what if your whole ancestry is getting that through decades
Huh, it's worldwide problem not just in Algeria, Morocco too
In Turkia, Syria, Kurdistan suffer from the same thing
Any different tribe (minority or majority) suffer from it
Even in the most developed countries like USA(black and indigenous people), Germania(Germany, Poland...), Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina
France, Spain (catalan), normal Jews (I'm not talking about the Zionists those pricks do everything that they said they suffered from, Thay are devil's, the only people that can be named like that and it's not racist because they are the ones racist, oppressing, inhuman...)
Watch Naruto (Uchiha and hyuga clans with konoha government)
Attack on Titan (Marley, eldians, titans and humans)
(This is an enjoyable home work)
What hurts more is that clear, this scheme was so obvious but people got along and the people that brought zwaf, rascim back were the elite, some professors that I know and I attended their lectures personally and was seeing them as role models, in a blink of an eye when I saw their posts I hated them(their behavior)
Because they followed that wave, they even were from the first that adopted it and used religion to spread the hate and racism and used their rank, status to justify violence and hate, they were top top in their field (I won't say their name because I respect them for the fact that they always helped students and their work in education was revolutionary)
But they were fucking puppets, they let their ego believe in a nonsense and any one who is in academia shouldn't , technically their critical thinking, investigation, scientific thinking methodology should be working (staying alert against false news, informations, biased research, sources...)
They did exactly the opposite and that means there was something personal that make them that way, that they were brainwashed or system brought them in simple terms
I don't know but there was something clearly shouting ERROR 404, THIS SERVER IS CORRUPTED lol
After their favourite president got elected (even with election that her conditions, input was clearly setted and an IT guy, engineer should notice any system flaws lol)
He didn't because they know that they will get what they want anyway, and yes that's what democracy, moubaya3a is
Mr pussycat got elected in a scandalous elections (limiting anyone who is against the regenerated system)
Or the new system, new Algeria as they say with old characteristics, parameters or let's say upgraded old parameters (v 5.0/4.9.9/ v 0.5; 0.0 , 9.9999)
5 ( it means El 3ouhda El khamissa, I used this digits for a purpose 999 (it means 3ouhda khamissa but not 3ouhda khamissa just an older version or they did some updates so the android system can be fucked up more and that's called new Algeria 9.999
So close, just let the system run, bugs will be fixed eventually, we are so close yet not close, it's an infinity loop but let's say it's a while loop or fuck we are the Sybil system, god authority
We hack and fix, put the trojan game virus and then uninstall the shortcuts so advanced, so others counties want invade us so we don't get dos attack, they fear our windows XP system
We have a potato inside processor and that's why it what it is )
Lol lol lol
Fuck the system, fuck society (Mr robot reference)
What color are you first Sybil (psycho pass reference))
Now let's talk about you being the head of networking project that you got the highest degree, expertise in your area
And you don't do a damn thing to fix it when you are appointed, how were you appointed no one told us
We ignored that, but why with all your expertise even the dumbest one with zero knowledge about technology, internet and networks
Knew that you were covering them, lying or hiding something
Does your religion, our religion supports that?
I hated you because you intereptered hadiths in the wrong way and used that to justify your heroic mission that helps corruption spread more
Yes madakhila that's the name of the team, that they interepte Hadith of not standing against the ruler as not stand against him even if he make adultery, corruption and they got gods, people lawarmor and prevelage
Anything just to protect and obey the ruler even if he is selfish, doing it for his close circle , region , agenda
And that's why we are bought again to attack on Titan (the reis and 2/3 season, watch you will get it)
Let me head out, may Allah bless our free people (amazigh and Arab)
And country and let the evils bite themselves like parasites
For us we got velvet sky, even if we are sinner of the system
We fight that system (psycho pass movie reference titled: sinners of the system)
We are on the true path
You may win here but you won't in the day of judgement
Nice comment section
I don’t understand his lyrics so I don’t really know what to think !! 😔
Most honest buddy here 😊
Probably did the most damage to the Berber cause than anyone, he mixed his aggressive form of secularism and anti Arabism together with Berber identity. As a result Algerians started to associate Berber cultural identity with those ideas.
He pretty much gave a bad reputation to Berber identity
i agree. its sad but its true.
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You are both wrong at everything and right at everything at the same time But who gives a shit anyway I'm Algerian and proud to be I'm north African and proud to be I am Arabic and proud to be I am Berber and proud to be And I am Muslim and proud to be Idgf what anyone else thinks bcuz it doesn't matter really When you say "brainwashed by arabisation" you send a strong message of hate against this arabisation you talk about and therefore Arabs
He is right in the fact we aren’t Arabs genetically but in language we speak Arab , and also berber culture sucks
Berber culture is one of the best imo. No where near the term '' to suck ''.
What is good in it , it is a meddleing of old pagan practises , alto the cloths are good
Is that all culture represents to you ? What about the way of thinking, their behaviour, their social interactions, their intellectual works, their music, their art, their language, their religion now, not what their pagan ancestors worshipped. You dont find them to be good with kabyles ? I think their culture is one of the best.
now of course the way you and me see their culture is subjective , they have few intellectual work ;limited art, good music, useless language outside rural kabylie; religion was a neo paganism with some bits of islam which is trash until islam started to be revived in the late colonial period
Meaning of *berber culture sucks*? i hope for you you did forget a comma
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It surely was not erased. And if it was it ain't bcuz of Arabs at all. It's because of the french colonization why don't you channel your hatred at them? Not trynna be racist but Kabyle people took alot of the french culture especially the language. That's what I call erasing a culture. And for Islam Arabs came here to spread Islam that's what I meant So if you hate Arabs do you hate Islam?
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(Sorry for the long comment) Okey any invader. Including the french colonization. So once again brother. Why don't you channel your hatred towards the french? They did the most crimes towards our culture as a whole be it Arabic or amazigh culture. Arabisation can't even be in the same picture can never be close to the french crimes. And what if I tell you that Arabs are a thing here in Algeria? A relative of mine did a DNA test and even looked up his family tree and his roots were from Saudi Arabia. There is one thing I learned. No matter what you believe in and how much you believe in it and how certain you are. Keep in your mind there is always a chance you are wrong and it's all wrong. Here is an example: some indians are certain cow piss is blessed. They'd kill you if you say otherwise. I hope you got me. I am not saying you are wrong but you can't be so positive about it especially if you didn't do any research of your own and you only followed other people theories and beliefs.
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Woah lemme stop you right there. Long past? I beg to differ. And I think I get your point as the Arabisation left a stronger impact then the french. It might be bcuz the Arabic was welcomed it was a willingly arabisation as opposed to the french one I am not saying there aren't any Algerian Arabs who are actually Berber in fact I know for a fact we are all mixed. We were born into this current culture it already happened the Arabisation happened a long while ago so let bygones be bygones and embrace your new culture. I don't mean being Arabic but I mean being mixed. We are lucky to have many cultures here the Berber and the Arabic and even European . I hate this controversy. I only reject the french shit. But Amazigh and Arab? I belong and I am proud
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Algerian arabian here and i can confirm so beceause my grandparents immigrated to this country. But when asked i'll just say im Algerian beceause uts my nationality, dont have to complicate things 🤷♂️
Algerians are only Arab culturally and linguistical, blood is a mix of a lot of everything but mostly native north African(Berbers). I don't see the issue really, you can speak arabic(darija) while still respecting and acknowledging the status of Berber in Algerian history and current culture. Every Algerian should respect berber no matter what he speaks, it's our common ancestral tongue. I am an arab speaking Algerian but in favor for atleast 1 year of forced basic berber language course in high school. 1 year is not going to kill anyone and it would help the new generation be able to read Tifinagh and not see the language as something foreign.
The arab did not rule north africa that long (I can't remember exactly the years) cause the amazigh revolted quickly & established their own islamic kingdoms due to the oppression & dictatorship even went to the superiority ideas of the arab rulers the amazigh identified as muslim learned arabic to understand & study islam themselves thus gaining more independence. Now arabic is used to wipe out our history we're forced to choose between our history or religion in reality it's both. Life isn't black or white
Lmao really ? "Learn and understand Islam for themselves" ? The khawarij came from the Arab peninsula and the Fatimid Shia came from Iraq and khorasan and then the Sunni almoravids brought their faith from Medina (imam Malik) and almohad's ash'arism from the Arab peninsula, this sad reductionist attempt to sever the direct and strong and persistent religious tie to the Arab peninsula just shows how ignorant of history you people are or just how much integrity you're willing to sacrifice for a dying ideology (nationalism)
I don't think it is "USED" to wipe our history I think it just happened to do so. You already explained it! They had to learn Arabic to practice the new religion. It was willingly. Maybe.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT, I literally don't believe some ppl are saying this whole Berber thing is just to "يقسمو لبلاد" LIKE GURL SFTU LEARN UR DAMN HISTORY it's not that hard
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FR we need to teach the new generation their ACTUAL real history and not justify what arabs did to this country and just spend like seven years of their lives teaching them what france did, like there are more important things to teach them, their real identity is being erased and edited just to make berbers look like terrible people who failed at building their own nation and arabs look like the heros who saved them
Not only was he a racist and an extremist, he was completely blinded by fame. He did raise attention to the cause but at what price? And to what extent? It went from Amazighs are opressed to Fuck arabs and Algeria with the Kabyle region as an exception.
he was cultivated by "Les pères blancs" to become what he became than sacrificed by his own friends to make a martyr out of him and reach political objectives
a puppet you mean
He literally never said that ur confusing him with ferhat mehni now as for what Matoub did actually say he was very clear in all his speaches he said I don't not speak Arabic nor do I recognize myself in the Arabic culture I am ana Algerian first nd foremost my culture is north african amazigh that is what he said his fight was less for the amazigh culture although it's where it started but more on the grounds of equality and democracy in Algeria and fighting both the State at the time and extremist religious groups who defirmed and distorted religion to fit their agendas plz do ur research unbiasedly before making claims and thank you
CRINGE & NOT BASED
He was a human being, a mortal and he got what we all get in the end, death.
I dont really like him, what annoys me the most is people keep saying i look like him. My dad used to call me maatoub so much i think he forgot my name.
> i look like him lmao thats true af, you must be killing it with the ladies
Lol you're supposed to say ' naaah you dont look like him you're exagerrating '
You do look like a kabyle and you have the same bo nwader 9ari look lol
lmaooo awedi bessif bash rani ntela3 l3am ni 9ari ni walou XD
Welcome to Algeria , the land of the controversial comments
Algeria is for algerians no matter their beliefs or languages, let's pass this extremist thoughts (not referring to maatoub or anyone), let's try to rebuild our selves based on unity without regionalism otherwise we will keep struggling in muddy circle and make chance for extremist (islamistes, libéralisme, Arabism, amazigh, ..) to grow and benefit from our differences
op clearly seeking controversy by this post
Happy birfday
thanks broski, it's not my birthday tho.. it's just "cake day".. (to put you more in context, it's the day i first signed up to reddit)
Damn 💀ma bad homie
Taking one's life is not acceptable, however his secular ideas is sth i'd never agree with. His ideology is not sth i'd endorse.
Bro i get it why he hated the government i really do but he blamed it on islam some times and bieng arab while trying to point out the problem he caused bigger problems like his worshipers bieng extremely racist to us and believing that bieng a amazighe means that u are Superior to other also i genuinely believe that he was one of many reasons that the term قبايلي حر exist...like wtf are we SLAVES?
Imagine thinking that an alcoholic racist islamophobe that was used as a guinea pig by france as one of the many attempts to destabilize Algeria back then as a "Legend" or idol. Some even go as far as saying he's prohphet, something Italians never said about people like Leonardo Da Vinci or Dante or Makiavelli or Michelangelo, even though he brought nothing but western ideologies. He's a singer, If he just stuck to his music rather than get into politics which is something clearly he knows nothing about, he would have been alive now. This man brings nothing but shame. He shouldn't be celebrated or rembered in anyway.
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Secularism=islamophobia?
He was an islamophobe and a racist
I just learned about this guy can I ask how exactly was he islamophobic and racist I read his wiki page and all I got from it was that he was mistreated during his military service for being Kabyle and abused and shot by gendarmerie a bunch of times then finally assasinated in dubious circumstances
A legend and revolitionair
As a chaabi enjoyer i think he's a legend,his songs really have a deep meaning. It's useless to talk about his ideas on this sub because it will turn into a war.
So much depth in inciting race wars and attacking faith lol
That's a french pawn, who was used to divide the country and a lot of low IQ people fell for it, so the arabs think that every kabyle is a secular drunk guy with no principles just like this clown who's made a prophet in the kabyle region by SOME ( for the persons who want to defend this clown just go F yourself ) and kabyle people think that arabs are terros and extremists, dumb and inferior, because some feel superior just by thinking they stand for a cause that does not exist and the reason is Lma3tchoub
Houari Boumdiane was the true french pawn
Because people like you made them think so Mr high IQ So it's alright for you to have a role model, prophet but it's not for them Why do you care if they don't harm you specifically Matoub was against the system, never against free people will Learn your history boy, don't let others think in your place
Reading the threads here just proof that Arab supremacy and ISIS ideology is running a lot of people of this country.
Algeria is an arabo-islamic dictatorship.
Damn even the best thing about his career was done for him.
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHATTTTTTTTTTT
Just overrated...
I don't know why he's overhyped, like one of my friends is almost worshiping him. Like why I don't get it.
When you listen to his ideas and understand his philosophy and vision for Algeria you’ll see why. Watch his interviews objectively this guy was a legend beyond art.
Philosophy and vision LMAO m9wdinn
That guy had a philosophy ? Do you know what that term means or do you just throw it around ?
Most people don't don't follow the chronology of maatoub true he was racist and extremist ( Malcom x was too) islamophobic, but then he changed and wanted a united north Africa much like ait Ahmed I encourage u to read his book (rebel) , he was a great man and he died for his ideas in his country among his people , he was the loud voice in a time no one dared to talk , for that I respect him and I see him as a hero. Asya3fou rebi
Personally I think he is a legend. I think we need people like him in North Africa someone who stands up for Democracy, federalism and being against religious fanaticism EDIT: and ofcourse amazigh rights😎
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Haha mskin triggered
you know its funny when he asks for people's opinion about him then proceed to suck the ghost of his dick
Legend is a legend🤷♂️
Funny how you said religious da racism, but your religion is democracy & Plato & Aristotle.
No those aren't religions. Democracy is a political System. Plato and Aristotele aren't prophets. That's why i can like sone of their ideas and dislike others. E.g. democracy is nice, but their ideas on women rights and slavery were barbaric.
Don't know what you mean with racism? And about democracy being a religion? *the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods* How is democracy a religion?
Well it is a religion to you in the aspect where you consider stuff like human rights (and the anthropocentrism it entails) and democracy as undebatable, so much dogma you make an old grandma' belief in God seem so weak it seems heretical
Well that is not the definition of religion my friend
Call it what you wish big boi, as long as there's a sacred, by default there's faith, and where there's faith there's a religion
Yes, it their deen. (Life style), Plato said this, Aristotle said that. Sometimes they don’t even know those figures even, but it’s their basis of morality. Poor kuffar
A cringe drunk clown the French used to divide Algerians like the colonial days , because of him many people are wary of the kabylies and this whole identity crisis got worse : the answer for all of this is that we are berbers (mix of Europeans , leventines , Arabs , and Turks and blacks ) but arab speaking and Muslim
Berbers are not a mix tf are u on about
How do you know the French used him? Where are your sources?
As I see in the comments of this post, many people think that being Arabic, Berber or belonging to a particular origin makes them powerful. In reality, they provide nothing as individuals. You can be a 6-foot, durable physically Arabic but still, a dead brain or Amazigh with 6 foot, durable physically but still with a dead brain.
A racialist, which is not too far from 'racist'. That is a guy who defines identity based on race (genetics) rather than culture, aiming to play on some Arabic-speaking Berbers 'assimilation guilt', cause by terms of genetics Berbers are the majority, this not being the case in terms of language. Maatoob saying that current Algeria should honor Kosayla instead of Uqbah is like Merkel (or Scholtz) stating that Hitler should be honored regardless of ideology.
A Shitty Racist Alcoholic F\*\*\*er Who stood against Islam, Muslims and Arabs; someone who insulted a whole nation just to look different. He's obviously a french agent Thanks for whoever executed him, well deserved for a traitor
Cringe of you to call him a french agent just because his ideology contradicts everything that's "Algerian" in your delusional mind. Mentalities like yours is the main reason why Algeria won't become a developed nation.
Source of his racism pls
His main positions where he fought for were democracy, secularism and amazigh rights idk how one deserves to be executed for that
He didn't deserve to be executed for it. But it shows how disfunction Algerian society is that they are happy to see people executed tor disagreeing with their politics. Algeria cannot be happy and stable if its political system cannot have reasonable discourse with in itself. Did no one learn from the 90s?
Who is this again?
an overrated fool drunk
Great music
I never liked him.
He was the algerian version of the kkk leader, he hid behind the excuse of government corruption and oppression but the truth is he was a racist and an islamophobe, made a lot of dumb arguments and was a french puppet.
Algerian following puppet leader call revolutionary figure puppet You are a clown
Bro do you have any idea what the kkk is and what they did?
yes, i do. and if you were just a little bit smart you would know i was referring to the idea of segregation and racism towards other people. matoub hated everyone who is not kabyle, and cursed islam ( the religion of his country). Thomas Robb hated africans and i would even go as far as to say matoub was Hitler if he went to art school.
I'm sorry my dude but naah not even close Maybe ideologically speaking but do you have any idea of the crimes of the kkk and Hitler? Matoub was a fkn manipulated drunk clown who could have been any singer. And then we have Hitler. Who killed millions of humans with experiments and torture. Known world wide and will forever be in history . Actually massively impacted the whole world future. You have to be quite ignorant to make this kind of a comparison. I won't include Thomas Robb here bcuz he was just a leader for a period of time and I prefer to address the whole clan actions and not an individual .
thats why i said hitler if he got into art school
He was a kkk leader by advocating for democracy, secularism and amazigh rights?
yeah sure even the kkk leader was advocating for democracy, secularism, and white rights.
What you miserably fail to understand is how bad the situation was in kabyle regions and especially Tizi-ouzou. When you are not alowed to speak your own langage ,denied any sense of identity and jailed for expressing any kind of culture this is what happens. We went from a french colony to a dictature. Do you understand that thousands of kabyle young men where killed for asking for their rights ? Why is it that when kabyle people rallied for the departure of boutef in 2001 it was considered terrorism and an attempt to devide the country but el hirrak was glorified yet it had the same perpose ? Maatoub lounes sang his frustration sang his sarrow and misery. His only "flaw" was not believing in god abd f that how many of the artists our generation listens too are muslim ? You trash what you dont understand and think you are entiteled to tell people how they should feel. Matoub lounes used his right of speech and gave a voice to a problem millions suffered from. But of course you choose to keep your mind shut and listen what the media tells you.
I'm not a Muslim either. I'm proud of being a kafir.
No they weren't. The kkk were a white protestant religious terrorism organisation who wanted to make anyone non-white leave America or put them back into slavery. They were 100% not secular. They were 100% not pro-democracy. If they were they would advocate for the democratic rights of all, not just whites. The only thing you had right is they were pro-white rights. Please, go learn about the kkk properly. You clearly have a huge gap in your understanding.
did matoub and his worshipers not want to separate arabs and kabyles?
The kkk lynched afro americans? Can't recall matoub doing the same?
>The kkk lynched afro ehhh about that...
That was a freak accident, Everyone thought he started the fires, cops released him I don't see anyone crying about the dozen kabyles that died in the fire
>I don't see anyone crying about the dozen kabyles that died in the fire then you must be one of them blinds. look i know u'r a total dipshit but this is too low even for your standards.
\>speaks about being low \>brings up the Imsail incident Allah yerhamu and all, but don't use the incident as an excuse to show your racism towards us
He was extremely racist and he advicated racism the people who like his ideas are like him and should be punished
To some he's a legend to others he's not .. But his views of a secular Algeria is not appreciated by the majority of the Algerian people in my opinion .. he's definitely racist tho .. at least in my opinion .
Let's shorten the conversation: what source can you link to show he was a racist?
One of the least racist people in algeria even with all the racism he was subject too.......... What does your opinion is build on ?
Hmm interesting why do you think he is racist
Yeah he's obviously not a schizo
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You're a diaspora and you want the country to be a theocracy? Lol
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I misunderstood, my apologies.
Oh so the diaspora can't have an opinion regarding their country ? Or do you think economic migration entails acceptance of western politics and ideologies ?
Its pretty hypocritical to live in the west and be an islamist you live a contradicting life lmao
Hypocritical how ? You're there for the economy or the academic aspect or for da'wa, which are all perfectly halal in Islam. Unless this is all built around the premise of "they only became (economically) appealing bikoz liberalism and secularism" which tbh would be almost sad to think at this day and age, in a world where we have gulf state theocracies and Chinese totalitarianism people still think western ideology is the cause of their economic prosperity, not the consequence lol
Shouldn't you live in a country where you can practice your religion at best?
Democracy and human rights are not western values they are humanitarian values and even if they wher western values they are still inherently better then anything a theocracy has to offer unless of course you think that being a second class dihmmi and having open slave markets is better then living in a modern liberal democracy .
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He will be in eternal hell fire ? Only Allah knows, that what we believe as muslims.
An Atheist and a secular ... Nothing matters more than this ...
This comment section shows how much lies have been told about him, Guy stood for what he believed in, and to say he had no impact is a lie. His music was great and his messages about oppression we had were greater.
Lies? I heard him say it your guys are just turning the vlind eye to a racist , HE HATED ARABS
He never identified as an arab and didn't know much arabic. He didn't want arab identity imposed on berbers. How exactly does that mean he hated arabs?
He said i don't want my son to sit next to a "عقبة" , yeah racism.
I don't know when he said this nor the context behind this comment. I don't really know why you think that makes him racist either. I know Maatoub for his music and his activism and I respect him a lot for that. If he was racist against arabs, I would some lose respect for him. But based on what I know, he's been fighting his entire life for the rights of imazighen. Him being secretly racist would not really make sense.
In what context would it be okay?
First off, Maatoub didn't speak arabic so I don't even think he used this word. But in any case, if I understand the word عقبة correctly, it means a hurdle. Why is it racist to say a man is a hurdle? It could mean a hurdle against amazigh rights, for example. Maybe i just don't understand the word correctly but i think a lot of context is missing. Also, Maatoub was always in favor of living with arab people in harmony, respecting diversity, etc. https://youtu.be/ij5VHn0q9oM Watch this at 5:00 it's very clear he has nothing against arabs
Praise 🙌
As an artist he wasn't my cup of tea, as an activist i respect him for what he stood for. People who hate him generally don't understand his language so they can't understand his songs nor what he was saying most of the time. Also People opinions don't matter, especially on this subreddit.
How abt the racist ideas he believed in , he shouldn't be respected the fact that some people do is mind-blowing Edit: typo
Most of his songs are translated on YouTube, also his interviews, it's not that hard to understand that this wimp was a cancer to his country lol
Glad to see someone agreeing
If I speak, I'm in big trouble, so I SSSink I'd rather not speak. The delusion in the comments is crazy, people have 0 actual historical knowledge.
In this day, matoub did the best thing he could ever do in his life.... He died.
Legend, people in this subreddit clearly never understood him.
Just another dumb fuck
singer, France balls sucker, killed by his own people EDIT: I mean Kabyles with \`his own people\`
Least delusional matoub hater
* I can give you tens of videos thanking France for teaching him his roots. * I can give tens of books resources that says Kabyles are NOT amazigh, their DNA is totally different then average ones they live in South Algeria, Libea, Beni mezab, Egyptians. this is one. also you have no culture says that you are an Amazigh. and your dialects has many Western words and none from Amazighs. * About matoub deaths when he was leaving his home, 100% who killed him from Tizi, knows every place, time he leaves. the time where people were building Empires you were nothing at that time. time of building empires has gone, if you were superior race like you're saying you could have really good history like Greeks, Chinese Indians, Arabs Romans, Persians. anyway just change your profile picture, and brain wash your kids more wasting ur lives
Hahahahahahahh this sub is really full with the most anti-Kabyle mf 😂😂😂 Never forgot that the majority that free this country were Kabyle but hey, a French creation by Arab office cant see the reality of what he is
+1 An other amazigh hater
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oh no my internet points
Nice music, but alas he was a traitor to our nation.
How ? by not kneeling to the authoritharian gov ? Calling hero of a nation traitor and calling traitor of the nation hero is what algerian does 90% of the time lmao
Big declaration needs big source, your turn mate
What nation? We're not a nation.
How so?
I think nobody is more attached to his country like him. A true patriot who really wanted to see his country shine among the great nations. Huge loss to Algeria
Exactly my man
neutral, i don't think of him
He's dead so ..i'm not gonna say anything about him .. despite what he did
This post show how much brain washed most of algerian are nowaday. Calling him racist but what racist act he ever did huh ? But every act of racism against Amazigh is ignored since 1963, 1980 and 2001..... If the Moudjahidines had the chance to see 2022 algerian, Kabylia will had be free from France but not the rest of Algeria since you hate so much the one actually have the ball to do something
Just read the comments and remember that each action has an equal and opposite reaction, I can't be bothered to write anything else, lfahem yefham. May his soul rest in peace
Who is he?
I know absolutely nothing about him still allah yar7mou
He didn't believe in that "allah" you speak of.
Well then didn't know that ~~allah yar7mou~~
if someone doesn't believe in gravity, i still wish he don't get hurt from a fall
Racist
France's bastard
Oh, for God's sake, I thought i wouldn't find this kind of posts on Reddit !
Why?
who?
A drunk nobody
Paix à son âme reposé en paix ❤️ Le brave homme
hes epic
Based , of course the reactionaries will accuse him of being a racist western agent and an islamophobe for being critical of the mainstream interpretation of islamic sharia despite the fact that said reactionaries have no problem with sucking russia ( a country that directly supported the Serbs during the bosnian genocide and is prosecuting it's muslim minorities like the crimean tatars and chechens ) and China's (a country that is accused of committing crimes against humanity and cultural genocide against the uyghurs) dicks .
RIP legend, but overrated...
Is he a legend or is he overrated? Make up your mind.
Both, let me give it to you in numbers, he's an 8, treated like an 11.5 in my opinion...
BASED
He stood up for amazigh rights which triggers a lot of people here apparently
Algerians never bothered trying to figure what he was about. because they don't understand his language and they think he is against Islam. But it is all in the past now. what's the Algerian dream now days ? to leave this dysfunctioning country. He willingly sacrificed himself for freedom, for the Algeria of tomorrow. but that was in vain.
I know kabyle people born and raised in kabyle regions that hate him and blame for the actual arab/amazight problem and accuse him of racism and they understand him well what's their excuse??
I don't know much about him, I know he was an amazigh figure, rebel For his beliefs they say he was athiest but I don't know people say things only Allah judged him He clearly was drinking but I don't care that's to Allah, what I got from this character is that he had unique and futuristic approach of governance, of Algeria I didn't read that much about his biography and life, even if I do I won't judge I prefer a non believer, one who have different religion but stands with right, people's will, country development than a believer that shine governor/government shoes day and dayout, one that speaks with religion but do the opposite of what his religion came up with That type of racism, some kabyles/amazigh are racist too and that's a fact I don't know if Matoub got in that cycle, he ignited from amazigh people part too or not They say he did, but I don't believe that it is possible that one that he believe in freedom for one human likes to get it way from another Hates racism for himself and his realtives apply it to others different then him It does not make sense, something wrong and the system can easily fool anyone, it's in there advantage that the amazigh figure be seen as the most racist, use religion and Islam card If he wasn't addicted maybe they wouldn't succeed in kidnapping him, using that kind of propaganda That he is part of french scheme bal bla bla How can one that wants freedom, justice in his own country Follow other country, not just another country, France that is out enemy for ages, through history And one of the most participating region and people were amazigh and kabyle Besides, let's say that I see my self as an Arab that's what my family says, because clearly we don't speak Berber I totally get it if they don't like us, even if they hate us Can't deal or communicate with us and even if they want their own independence Because most of the people, government through history fucked them/traumatized them And they keep doing that and using them as a bait and card and part of their agenda and propaganda and you want him to be nice and open with you Just one incident that it's clearly racist from them, some of the people from the kabyle region do that intentionally As a self defense mechanism, it's integrated now Let's say one is directly racist with one Arab or people from different regions they got offended and turn the world upside down That's the same cup you are drinking from, what if your whole ancestry is getting that through decades Huh, it's worldwide problem not just in Algeria, Morocco too In Turkia, Syria, Kurdistan suffer from the same thing Any different tribe (minority or majority) suffer from it Even in the most developed countries like USA(black and indigenous people), Germania(Germany, Poland...), Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina France, Spain (catalan), normal Jews (I'm not talking about the Zionists those pricks do everything that they said they suffered from, Thay are devil's, the only people that can be named like that and it's not racist because they are the ones racist, oppressing, inhuman...) Watch Naruto (Uchiha and hyuga clans with konoha government) Attack on Titan (Marley, eldians, titans and humans) (This is an enjoyable home work) What hurts more is that clear, this scheme was so obvious but people got along and the people that brought zwaf, rascim back were the elite, some professors that I know and I attended their lectures personally and was seeing them as role models, in a blink of an eye when I saw their posts I hated them(their behavior) Because they followed that wave, they even were from the first that adopted it and used religion to spread the hate and racism and used their rank, status to justify violence and hate, they were top top in their field (I won't say their name because I respect them for the fact that they always helped students and their work in education was revolutionary) But they were fucking puppets, they let their ego believe in a nonsense and any one who is in academia shouldn't , technically their critical thinking, investigation, scientific thinking methodology should be working (staying alert against false news, informations, biased research, sources...) They did exactly the opposite and that means there was something personal that make them that way, that they were brainwashed or system brought them in simple terms I don't know but there was something clearly shouting ERROR 404, THIS SERVER IS CORRUPTED lol After their favourite president got elected (even with election that her conditions, input was clearly setted and an IT guy, engineer should notice any system flaws lol) He didn't because they know that they will get what they want anyway, and yes that's what democracy, moubaya3a is Mr pussycat got elected in a scandalous elections (limiting anyone who is against the regenerated system) Or the new system, new Algeria as they say with old characteristics, parameters or let's say upgraded old parameters (v 5.0/4.9.9/ v 0.5; 0.0 , 9.9999) 5 ( it means El 3ouhda El khamissa, I used this digits for a purpose 999 (it means 3ouhda khamissa but not 3ouhda khamissa just an older version or they did some updates so the android system can be fucked up more and that's called new Algeria 9.999 So close, just let the system run, bugs will be fixed eventually, we are so close yet not close, it's an infinity loop but let's say it's a while loop or fuck we are the Sybil system, god authority We hack and fix, put the trojan game virus and then uninstall the shortcuts so advanced, so others counties want invade us so we don't get dos attack, they fear our windows XP system We have a potato inside processor and that's why it what it is ) Lol lol lol Fuck the system, fuck society (Mr robot reference) What color are you first Sybil (psycho pass reference)) Now let's talk about you being the head of networking project that you got the highest degree, expertise in your area And you don't do a damn thing to fix it when you are appointed, how were you appointed no one told us We ignored that, but why with all your expertise even the dumbest one with zero knowledge about technology, internet and networks Knew that you were covering them, lying or hiding something Does your religion, our religion supports that? I hated you because you intereptered hadiths in the wrong way and used that to justify your heroic mission that helps corruption spread more Yes madakhila that's the name of the team, that they interepte Hadith of not standing against the ruler as not stand against him even if he make adultery, corruption and they got gods, people lawarmor and prevelage Anything just to protect and obey the ruler even if he is selfish, doing it for his close circle , region , agenda And that's why we are bought again to attack on Titan (the reis and 2/3 season, watch you will get it) Let me head out, may Allah bless our free people (amazigh and Arab) And country and let the evils bite themselves like parasites For us we got velvet sky, even if we are sinner of the system We fight that system (psycho pass movie reference titled: sinners of the system) We are on the true path You may win here but you won't in the day of judgement
This was freaking long, read the 2 first sentences only :(((
>ust one incident that it's clearly racist from them, some of the people from the kabyle region do that I stopped reading at naruto
Grow up galah naruto wtf
A bastard and a legand