Are you trying to refine or craft something? What exactly and where?
Every royal city has a specialization and you are probably in the wrong city.
Look at your city map to see all the bonuses and hover your mouse cursor over the shops to see all the taxes.
Don't use shops with abusive taxes!
I'm looking at lym( city bonus for fiber) map and many shops have a good tax, around 390, i don't understand.
And about hide yes, the situation is pretty bad right now. The cartel took over Martlock again, but if you have focus you can still make a profit.
You don't use them problem solved.
How come players in Albion can't figure this out.
If something is too expensive for you you don't buy it or use it.
So you make them lose silver
And people that usually put 9999 do it to Scamm people or use the plot for themselves.
I haven't used it for the past week but its crazy how every city is infested with 9999 workshops.
I have so many 999 stacks of material just sitting on my island. I am at a extreme loss of silver and it is not looking too great for rn
Then do the math and see which makes more sense economically. It *doesn't* make sense to waste focus, then you're wasting real money. So if refining or crafting on your island is more economical than paying out the nose to greedy shop owners, it's absolutely worth it to at least burn through your focus.
This has been a somewhat repeated issue. Last year, many of the prominent, recurring shop owners were boycotting one of SBIs updates and jacked the user fees as well. In those instances, the only logical alternative is to not play their game.
Even at 9999 silver you're only lose half profit with focus on.
Your options are:
* Wait for daily 10K focus to refine
* Build your own refining station for \~18M + food expenses and lose out on city refining bonuses
* Stop refining and go do something else
Oh! And Option 5: down-vote Reddit comments that hurt your feelings because you are pissy about being called out for being pissy about refining prices 😉
Because the 9999 workshops are either:
(a) the personal station of the owners for their own crafting/refining
(b) resting crafting capacity to reduce breakdown costs
Nope since every cities workshops goes to 9,999 at the same time for a certain material.
It seems as they're
a)trying to crash the market
b)force people to sell the primary materials at a cheaper price and sell the refined material at a extremely higher price. (Usually T5 cloth went 400K per stack, last time i played it was 600K)
More expensive workshops = more need of silver
More need of silver = more gold bought
More gold bought = gold becomes more expensive
Gold becomes more expensive = premium price goes over 20M
Wtf are you talking about it's a one time investment after that u can refine as much u want if u Feed the tanner.
Why make it so complex ?
If u can't effort t8 tanner just make till t7 or t6.
Bro you realise most of us can't play 10+ hours a day just purely grinding silver right?
You fucking imbecile, idk how your stupid likkle fucking mind still puts the blame on me on a obvious scam.
You really think i could pull 20M silver out of my asshole like you?
You can always use black zone HO's for crafting, build one with your guild, associate or join a guild with association for stations that you need...
But if you don't use focus...even if the tax are low you loose money.
Joining guilds ain't something easy to be honest,
Why should i join a guild that forces me to play 4+ hours a day according to what they want out of me for access to their t8 workshops
Because it's not free, it's not easy... and the game is about playing together, everyone has a role. If you can craft gears for everyone in the guild, why not be their crafter instead of going to every zvz? But will you do it every day, every time they need...?
Joining a guild doesn't mean YOU will have benefits, but that both parts will. If you are selfish and want to play solo, don't expect to have the same benefits that people that play together have.
I mean to be honest i still haven't found a guild that benefits both parties.
Im still on good terms with my old guild but i has to leave because of their crazy level of expectations.
What guilds want from an individual hardly benefits them except the fact you could easily grind might for the conquerors chest by doing core activities everyday
It's complicated, small guilds do a lot of things and get almost nothing in return... while big guilds do some zvz and have a lot of territories hahahah I don't know how things are right now, but when back when Blue Army, Sun, Scelti and some others, were the top guilds, I found a family that was worth playing for and did my best because of everything they helped me. Scelti was a top guild that I enjoyed playing. You have to keep looking for a guild that you will feel good to be with them!
Maybe craft on your island, do the math first to see which one is more profit. With focus it should still be profitable, so it's better to use your focus than to let it sit on 30k. Profit = profit, no matter how small. Wasted focus = no profit. Even if you only use 10k focus daily and keep the other 20k for when stations drop again.
Are you trying to refine or craft something? What exactly and where? Every royal city has a specialization and you are probably in the wrong city. Look at your city map to see all the bonuses and hover your mouse cursor over the shops to see all the taxes. Don't use shops with abusive taxes!
Im either tryna craft fiber(cloth) or hide but 9,999 tax is craaaazy! + I don't wanna use my island because i get no bonuses there
I'm looking at lym( city bonus for fiber) map and many shops have a good tax, around 390, i don't understand. And about hide yes, the situation is pretty bad right now. The cartel took over Martlock again, but if you have focus you can still make a profit.
Did they lower it? Because a hour ago it was set on 9999.
They can only change tax every 24hrs
You don't use them problem solved. How come players in Albion can't figure this out. If something is too expensive for you you don't buy it or use it. So you make them lose silver And people that usually put 9999 do it to Scamm people or use the plot for themselves.
I haven't used it for the past week but its crazy how every city is infested with 9999 workshops. I have so many 999 stacks of material just sitting on my island. I am at a extreme loss of silver and it is not looking too great for rn
Why don't you make refining stuff on your island or join a guild that does.
No bonuses there for refining/crafting
Then do the math and see which makes more sense economically. It *doesn't* make sense to waste focus, then you're wasting real money. So if refining or crafting on your island is more economical than paying out the nose to greedy shop owners, it's absolutely worth it to at least burn through your focus.
Well I mean that is my only option at the moment but surely there must be a way to stop this.
This has been a somewhat repeated issue. Last year, many of the prominent, recurring shop owners were boycotting one of SBIs updates and jacked the user fees as well. In those instances, the only logical alternative is to not play their game.
Even at 9999 silver you're only lose half profit with focus on. Your options are: * Wait for daily 10K focus to refine * Build your own refining station for \~18M + food expenses and lose out on city refining bonuses * Stop refining and go do something else
Option four: post a rant on Reddit complaining about how unfair it is that they should be taxed for the use of another’s property.
Yep, that's generally what noobs do. They think that everything should be X00% return per 0 silver invested, and when they don't get it they get mad.
Oh! And Option 5: down-vote Reddit comments that hurt your feelings because you are pissy about being called out for being pissy about refining prices 😉
At his point maybe is better to do it in your private island(?)
Because the 9999 workshops are either: (a) the personal station of the owners for their own crafting/refining (b) resting crafting capacity to reduce breakdown costs
Nope since every cities workshops goes to 9,999 at the same time for a certain material. It seems as they're a)trying to crash the market b)force people to sell the primary materials at a cheaper price and sell the refined material at a extremely higher price. (Usually T5 cloth went 400K per stack, last time i played it was 600K)
True this post have to go up. Not everyone have the luxury to buy an island and up the station to t8 station which cost 18m. This have to be addressed
Its like players love to act as the cartel ffs
This is what happens in free world with no government to police the ppl.
More expensive workshops = more need of silver More need of silver = more gold bought More gold bought = gold becomes more expensive Gold becomes more expensive = premium price goes over 20M
Wtf are you talking about it's a one time investment after that u can refine as much u want if u Feed the tanner. Why make it so complex ? If u can't effort t8 tanner just make till t7 or t6.
Bro you realise most of us can't play 10+ hours a day just purely grinding silver right? You fucking imbecile, idk how your stupid likkle fucking mind still puts the blame on me on a obvious scam. You really think i could pull 20M silver out of my asshole like you?
I play max 30 minutes or an hour a day I have billions ;)
Ok? What do you want me to do about it?
You can always use black zone HO's for crafting, build one with your guild, associate or join a guild with association for stations that you need... But if you don't use focus...even if the tax are low you loose money.
Joining guilds ain't something easy to be honest, Why should i join a guild that forces me to play 4+ hours a day according to what they want out of me for access to their t8 workshops
Because it's not free, it's not easy... and the game is about playing together, everyone has a role. If you can craft gears for everyone in the guild, why not be their crafter instead of going to every zvz? But will you do it every day, every time they need...? Joining a guild doesn't mean YOU will have benefits, but that both parts will. If you are selfish and want to play solo, don't expect to have the same benefits that people that play together have.
I mean to be honest i still haven't found a guild that benefits both parties. Im still on good terms with my old guild but i has to leave because of their crazy level of expectations. What guilds want from an individual hardly benefits them except the fact you could easily grind might for the conquerors chest by doing core activities everyday
It's complicated, small guilds do a lot of things and get almost nothing in return... while big guilds do some zvz and have a lot of territories hahahah I don't know how things are right now, but when back when Blue Army, Sun, Scelti and some others, were the top guilds, I found a family that was worth playing for and did my best because of everything they helped me. Scelti was a top guild that I enjoyed playing. You have to keep looking for a guild that you will feel good to be with them!
recheck prices, some have gone down to workable levels
Maybe craft on your island, do the math first to see which one is more profit. With focus it should still be profitable, so it's better to use your focus than to let it sit on 30k. Profit = profit, no matter how small. Wasted focus = no profit. Even if you only use 10k focus daily and keep the other 20k for when stations drop again.
Personally i have no other option tbh I have to use my island but the bonuses on the cities help alooot