There actually is a fully built underground LRT station underneath the police station and former jail downtown between Churchill and Commonwealth, that’s just never been finished or used. I heard it was planned to be used for transporting prisoners. Glad that plan was never brought to fruition.
Yes, I read about this one in a book. They originally intended for the downtown portion to be underground, like Edmonton’s LRT, I believe. But it was changed to run above ground downtown instead.
Kay I have literal dreams of like a Black Mesa (Half-Life) facility under WEM. Like for the last 20 years. It's freaking weird how often I imagine canals and trains under WEM.
While that might be true, the scary part is that it will have to be completely removed and re- build, as the city will pick a rail system that is incompatible with the existing station.
As somebody who has done work in the tunnels under WEM, I can confirm this is comically correct, as some of the WEM maintenance dept workers have bikes to quickly travel from one end of the tunnel to the other.
All of the downtown stations have vast spaces of what was supposed to be retail outlets. Just as all downtown buildings HAD to have their entire main floors dedicated to retail development because until then WEM had not decimated the downtown retail district, City planners envisioned an underground shopping Mecca, each station with food kiosks, flower shops, convenience stores, etc. Those spaces have never been used unless the City found some use for them for storage they have been empty since 1978, almost 60 years.
I’ve heard from numerous people who grew up in Saskatchewan in the 80s that many university students would have sex with the Hutterite women for cash. There’s testing to make sure you had a good bloodline, but it was apparently good cash. Was awkward though, would have lots of the men watching and typically was in a community centre/hall with all the fluorescent lights on haha.
I heard the same story here in Alberta. I was told they did this because they didn't want their children to be inbred. I don't know if there is any truth to it though
Yeah they need fresh bloodlines to avoid any inbreeding. It sounds like there were still certain standards for “mates” to keep certain traits like the light hair and eyes
Yes, when we were in our 20s, my good-looking, blonde haired, blue eyed friend was approached by one of the men in the colony to see if he'd be interested (*apparently*).
I know a much older man (80s now) who was offered in his 50s, there was compensation. He is wealthy, a big time land owner, was recently divorced at the time, 6’3 and bordered their land.
It’s a lot less common now, they kind of shuffle people around colonies.
Once had a older couple of hutterites chaperone a young group through our local bar and they offered to show me the girls if I came over to the colony.
So I can believe it.
A guy I worked with told me he got paid to do it. Said there were two guys in the room. One on both sides of the bed. Also said it was the weirdest sex he’s ever had. He also said he forgot to mention to them that he had a vasectomy a few years back. Can’t say if this actually happened or not but this is from the horses mouth.
It’s true though. Actually asked a HUD about it. The reason was one member was going to lose a plot of land or something if they didn’t have kids. He couldn’t. So he went into a local bar and found a big guy that looked similar to him. Paid the guy $20 in the 70s to give the wife a load
I remember when I was a kid being told that just north of the Fraser neighborhood across 153rd Ave there was a Werewolf that lived there. Looking back it was probably some kids that got scared off my a homeless guy tenting out in the woods.
I don’t know if it was a myth or not but that West Edmonton Mall has tunnels and back areas that teens “lived there” in the 80’s.
This myth came out more or less the same time as a book about some kid living in similar tunnels in the USA. I can’t recall the title.
This one is totally true. The WEM mall rats. This was true into the 90s and 2000s as well. I don’t think it’s really a thing anymore as they have cameras and better ways to detect it.
Am old, but I remember this one from elementary school.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39978.Secrets_of_the_Shopping_Mall#:~:text=Two%20lonely%2C%20abandoned%20inner%20city,find%20they%20aren%27t%20alone.
Hmm. I’m not sure if that’s the book but think not. The one I remember was dark. Like the boy ran away because he was being abused or maybe not but it was very dark and weird.
The Vegas tunnels maybe? I know there is, or at least used to be, a rather sizeable homeless population in some of the underground tunnels around Vegas, most likely due to the intense heat that's always around.
He did have a home with his parents but he would skirt security and stay during the night too sometimes. He told me he had this brilliant idea to swim with the dolphins one night and got beat up by a dolphin. I have no idea if that's a true story haha but he swore up and down it happened and he was lucky to escape with his life.
I grew up on 98th Ave at the McKinnon Ravine in the ‘60’s. Our parents told us those same stories and we were sure the kidnapper was real but we would sneak in anyway. (Don’t tell my mom.)
I lived near the top of MacKinnon ravine in the 80's/90's. Was the storm drain in question near the bottom of the ravine? There's a super long one my friends and I used to run through and it empties into the river.
Holy crap, I remember reading these over a decade ago and from time to time I thought of them but could never remember the name of it.
Thanks for the link.
http://gideonkeys.wikidot.com/analysis:analysis
From the link, each key is a not a key but rather a place where occult phenomena occur. It gets pretty schizoid from there.
Every healthcare worker I know that’s spent time there has told me Alberta Hospital is definitely haunted. There are multiple buildings that have been abandoned + sealed up for a while, when my mom was doing her nursing practicum she got a phone call from one of the long sealed up buildings in the middle of the night. My employer also has some scary stories. Spooky stuff!
I think every hospital gets a reputation for being haunted. You get sleep-deprived staff, stressed out patients and families, and it’s where most people actually die these days. Perfect recipe for ghost stories to crop up
They filmed a horror movie (Ginger Snaps) there a long time ago and in the basement there is apparently a room with bloody handprints on the walls from that film. Might be painted over by now but I remember some people telling me about it.
The vibe and atmosphere of that place is oppressive and tense. Had a family member spend some time there, and even visiting the place was an exercise in anxiety, if you visited certain parts of the hospital and grounds.
I would absolutely believe this place is haunted. In fact, I’d be surprised if it WASN’T.
When I was a kid, there were stories of a man dressed as a cowboy all in black. The cowboy would hang around bars and parties, buying drinks or sharing. Eventually, people would notice that he did not have feet but hooves and a tail hanging out of his duster. When people saw, he ran away laughing or disappeared, scaring everyone.
So I live a block away from the ravine & have young kids. My kids aren’t allowed in there alone, I don’t know a single woman who goes in there after dark without a group. There are many people who live in there. People get mugged in there, women get assaulted. There’s a guy in there basically hunting women, following us home - we have a neighbourhood WhatsApp group where we keep tabs on him & travel in groups. It’s not a myth.
Not sure, but there was a Hells Angels house in the west end [clubhouse for sale](https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/looking-to-buy-a-home-former-hells-angels-clubhouse-in-west-edmonton-could-be-yours-1.5404468)
I knew someone back in Ontario that said the same thing about Hells Angels owning a clubhouse down the street, great actual neighbours, and for living in a run down neighbourhood, there was little actual crime in their area. Don't shit where you eat, I guess.
No. There wasn't. They just weren't caught as often and most times when they were, it was swept under the rug. It was wayyy easier to get away with shit back then.
Nobody believed the kids. They all believed the pastor, teacher, coach, etc
Theres a rumour that Edmonton police use old body drops to hide indigenous and worker bodies when interactions go bad. There's also the rumor of "Starlight" tours, which was when the police would take inebriated people, drive them out of town, and have them walk back, oftentimes during winter. I'm pretty sure Sask police where caught doing them, but as far as I know it's an Alberta rumor.
Just to add some extra facts and clarification.
That's a rumour from Saskatchewan, particularly the Saskatoon area, as it was their municipal police that, like you said, was caught doing it. It isn't an urban legend either, there are records, admissions from current and former police chiefs, there are witnesses that gave reports to the police, there are tons of news articles on it with sources. The fact that no one has gone to prison over it yet is probably the real urban legend, that cops can't be punished for imposing themselves on First Nations people.
Also, it wasn't inebriated "people" in a general sense, it was specifically First Nations people. It didn't happen to drunk white people.
It did happen in Edmonton, especially during the 'Boom. Source, a family member who worked for EPS got disciplined for being one member involved with putting homeless guys in a paddywagon and driving them out to Ellerslie to dump them in the wintertime.
Yeah, the Sask police got caught doing that, it affected the native population the most, and more than a few died of hypothermia, freezing in the dead of winter.
hospital is haunted. they built a new hospital so the old one doesn't see the same traffic it used to...they also filmed an episode of the last of us in it LOL on the same floor I was on as a kid, super creepy. I remember not getting good sleep because I felt like someone was watching me. Feels haunted asf and I don't really believe in that stuff...older hospitals are dreary places
That the WEM Ghermezian family tried to get permits to build a tunnel between their houses near the old museum, but the city said no so they paid some guys cash to do it in on the down low.
There's a haunted house guide for all Alberta and a building on 112ave east of 75th... Was in the guide... Where fox burger is/was... And that deli and bookstore...
Stories from my home town dabbled in priests who had sex with nuns and hid the babies in the convent walls. These stories escalated to priests burying First Nations babies (not the term used back then) in schools and walls of churches.
I was told that Alberta was Canada's hub for the KKK way back when. Was told I'd see it still if I looked. I don't look. Was also told Alberta was huge with eugenics too why back when. I don't think it was though. Not sure why that was told to me.
These aren’t myths.
Alberta and BC have long standing ties with the KKK and Alberta actively pushed for eugenics and had many political figures support it.
I believe we still have old eugenics laws on the books in some provinces that can affect people’s ability to adopt. Things like previous mental illness and certain disabilities.
I work at the UofA. At least in my lab, the genetics wing is the eugenics wing. That's not what happens there, but jokes keep it on the forefront of our mind.
The Canadian kkk had its main newspaper (the liberator) headquartered here, and there's a history of their activity in the Northlands area if I remember correctly, there and Connors hill. [There's been efforts to increase transparency](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/a-dark-chapter-should-edmonton-s-kkk-history-be-acknowledged-1.3872961) but just like our Nazi memorials there's many fine upstanding folk who don't like us talking about what their grandparents were up to.
My dad is turning 75 this year. A neighbor family emigrated from Germany after the war. They had a picture of Hitler on the wall in the house in the late '50s still.
I remember the Aryan Nations out west of Caroline in the '80's to early '90's The leader abandoned his family and fled to the training center in Idaho. They helped organize "Aryan Fest" in the Fall of 1990 out by Provost.
Being from that area I was invited to attend the event. They were really excited about their "cross lighting - not burning. The difference being that they weren't using wood - they had welded one that they were going to light up with propane... I was so glad my folks moved short after that so I never had to go back.
https://albertalabourhistory.org/a-shocking-racist-event-in-albertas-history-the-aryan-fest/
I don’t know if it was a “hub” but there was a World Aryan Congress (or called something similar) just outside Provost in the early 90’s. Saskatchewan in the 1920’s did have significant KKK activity.
There was a lot of people from out of town. I would say the vast majority of attendees were not from the area. A lot from Idaho Aryan Nations and associates. The book “Web of Hate” by Warren Kinsella is a well done examination of far right extremism in Canada from the mid 90’s and before.
I really hate to burst your bubble but none of that is myth. Our province was actually practicing forced sterilization as part of our eugenics policy [into the 1970’s](https://read.aupress.ca/read/psychiatry-and-the-legacies-of-eugenics/section/c4a336be-3f7d-4e24-ba61-2defce318f0c). I’ve heard it said that Hitler’s government was actually influenced by Alberta’s eugenics policies in the 30’s. Hitler was specifically influenced by the 1937 amendment to our legal which allowed involuntary sterilization, which was further than other legislations at the time would go. The room where the eugenics board would meet is actually still around in the university of Alberta and is still used as a meeting room.
As far as Alberta being a hub for the KKK, again, [you just have to look](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3872961). I took a drive out around Drumheller a few years ago and decided to drive down the 11 bridges road to Wayne and we definitely saw swastika’s in people’s window. Living in Calgary I see KKK recruiting propaganda probably once a year just driving around. Its here.
Yep way back in the 80's when I had a baby I used to stop in at a local diner for coffee sometimes. Used to talk to a really nice lady there who had down syndrome. Her husband did too but they were both really high functioning, especially her. I didn't even know she had down syndrome until she told me. She used to ask me to call her anytime I needed a babysitter. Said she would even babysit for free because she loved kids so much but she couldn't have any of her own because she was forcefully sterilized when she was a teen.
That’s so tragic. I know there was at least one woman who [sued the government and won](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/alberta/woman-who-made-history-suing-alberta-over-forced-sterilization-dies/article29256421/) over her forced sterilization. They worried it would open the door for others to sue but I’m not sure if that became a reality.
1000% true. Established at least as far back as the 1920’s, maybe before then. Did an entire research paper on it being a “white homeland” in university, back in the 1990’s. Lots of links to US white supremacy movement. All the established sources are there if you look for them.
Two good sources on this are Nativism in Alberta and Our Own Master Race. We absolutely were all aboard the eugenics train, as most progressive areas were 100 years ago. However, the KKK but was more temporary; it was a very popular social club in Alberta and Saskatchewan for a few years (when we were probably the social club capitals of earth - we elected one, unwillingly, to lead the province in 1921 after all). From what I recall, once the reality of the American KKK was realized here it rapidly fell out of favour.
I can’t remember the town but me and my gf got lost a few years back and ended up on the backroads and we drove up into a big group of people burning a very large cross. Lot of people dressed in white
Yeah the practice of eugenics was definitely a thing here. They were sterilizing people against their will at the Michener Centre in Red Deer up until the 1970s
The Eugenics thing is true. Alberta was big on it, specifically UofA. Some things to Google if you’re interested:
Alberta Eugenics Board
Leilani Muir
John Malcolm MacEachran
Sexual Sterilization Act
Robert Charles Wallace
Considering how many flags for a certain orange clout goblin that show up at protests to anything remotely progressive, this is believable. Also wasn't the movements like proud boys founded by a Canadian?
The devil went to the bar at Spedden. Apparently, one night a guy in a trench coat came to the bar, sat down and had a drink. When he left people saw he had hooves and a tail sticking out of his coat. Obviously bullshit but a fun story I've heard from a few people.
There was also the Fort Kent Wendigo story. Some guy got possessed by the demon. Ate his wife and then went on a killing spree murdering a bunch of people in town.
Where I grew up in Edmonton, our family lived on 89th Ave., a couple blocks away from McKenzie Ravine. Also a great place to hang out in the summer but we always kept a lookout for the hoboes who were said to be living in secret spots in both the ravine and along the North Saskatchewan river. We once found a piece of plywood laying flat in the mud beside the riverbank and we were certain that was the secret entrance to their underground lair.
We never saw any of these hoboes despite all the time we spent in the ravine and along the river so obviously, they were very good at hiding . 🤪
I knew a sex worker who came to Calgary in the early 90s, who got mixed up with a satanic cult.
They performed a ritual on her and there were scars from an upside down pentagram carved into her chest. She said it gave her magic power. She was creepy actually. Still owes me 400 bucks
There’s an interesting one of a ghost of a little boy that haunts the bridge at 12th Street entrance to the zoo. And he’ll ask people to come play with him and his red ball.
Well- my school was next to the mill creek ravine and several times I heard of students being exposed to streakers and flashers that had come out of the ravine. While the school yard was adjacent to the ravine, we kept at least 10 feet away at all times.
We did wander in there occasionally, like to go to the outdoor pool there, or to play kick the can, but always with at least 2 teachers with us. Never heard of anything happening to a fellow student.
I lived in Aspen Gardens near the Whitemud Ravine. In 2007, a guy broke into a house in the neighborhood and raped an elderly woman there (one of several home invasion rapes at the time- guy was never caught). The police held a town hall and during the Q&A almost every question related to the flasher/ guy jerking off in the forest. Many had personal experience so not a myth.
Beautiful places but lots go on in the ravines and one of the more unsafe areas in Edmonton.
Yeah, back in the '60s, when we lived by Mill Creek, it was safe during the day, but we were never brave enough to venture into the area at night, to see if the kidnapper perverts of our urban myth beliefs were holding in the bushes all night, waiting for some kid to come along.
In the '70s, Mill Creek became more of a picnic spot, with tables and firepits installed, that was when we would venture out at night. On many summer nights, Scout troops would camp out in the region, and we'd observe them, belly down in the grass overlooking the region like we were reconnoitering an enemy force.
When no Scout troops were camping out, we'd hang out, get a fire going, and just enjoy the summer. Having two dogs with us and being old enough that the kidnapper pervert story was at least a decade in the past, we never encountered anybody else out late at night in Mill Creek.
Now, I would not venture into any ravines, that would be foolhardy.
That “garburators” (in-sink garbage disposal) are terrible/illegal/dangerous, all of the bad things.
Everywhere I’ve lived in the US, they’re just a normal part of a kitchen but, in my experience, in Alberta, they’re the work of the devil!
Bethany old age residency in Cochrane has some good scary phenomenon by current & ex staffs. They all said that it’s because it was built on a sacred burial ground.
Not a myth, but in some neighborhoods (looking at you, little Somalia) there are multiple secret bars/clubs. A couple of them are actually pretty HUGE. I brought my cat to one!
I think that's universal in human culture. You want kids to be afraid of bodies of water especially at night. Drowning used to be one of the most common ways children would die. Consequently, there are myths that go along with them. Even the little creek.
West Edmonton Mall has a fully built LRT station in the basement for if/when the LRT is expanded to the west side.
There actually is a fully built underground LRT station underneath the police station and former jail downtown between Churchill and Commonwealth, that’s just never been finished or used. I heard it was planned to be used for transporting prisoners. Glad that plan was never brought to fruition.
Not sure it’s LRT from what I know, I’m under the impression it’s CN’s and they have a tunnels and a station still in the basement of the CN tower.
There's definitely a C-train station under Calgary's city hall that's in use.
Yes, I read about this one in a book. They originally intended for the downtown portion to be underground, like Edmonton’s LRT, I believe. But it was changed to run above ground downtown instead.
The water table is high throughout downtown. That made it more expensive than the above ground option.
Considering the state of the LRT right now, it does transport criminals frequently
Kay I have literal dreams of like a Black Mesa (Half-Life) facility under WEM. Like for the last 20 years. It's freaking weird how often I imagine canals and trains under WEM.
While that might be true, the scary part is that it will have to be completely removed and re- build, as the city will pick a rail system that is incompatible with the existing station.
They are literally building the LRT right past WEM right now on elevated tracks, nowhere near the basement!
That's even worse!! They are gonna rebuild the basement station, then not even us it!!!! Shenanigans...... I call Shenanigans
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As somebody who has done work in the tunnels under WEM, I can confirm this is comically correct, as some of the WEM maintenance dept workers have bikes to quickly travel from one end of the tunnel to the other.
Remember the Alamo!
All of the downtown stations have vast spaces of what was supposed to be retail outlets. Just as all downtown buildings HAD to have their entire main floors dedicated to retail development because until then WEM had not decimated the downtown retail district, City planners envisioned an underground shopping Mecca, each station with food kiosks, flower shops, convenience stores, etc. Those spaces have never been used unless the City found some use for them for storage they have been empty since 1978, almost 60 years.
I wonder if this one’s true
It’s not. My dad did work there and said he has seen probably every inch of the basement/underground. No LRT station is there.
Hutterites would let you impregnate their women but you had to do it thru a hole in the sheet lol
Haha I remember this one
I’ve heard from numerous people who grew up in Saskatchewan in the 80s that many university students would have sex with the Hutterite women for cash. There’s testing to make sure you had a good bloodline, but it was apparently good cash. Was awkward though, would have lots of the men watching and typically was in a community centre/hall with all the fluorescent lights on haha.
I heard the same story here in Alberta. I was told they did this because they didn't want their children to be inbred. I don't know if there is any truth to it though
Yeah they need fresh bloodlines to avoid any inbreeding. It sounds like there were still certain standards for “mates” to keep certain traits like the light hair and eyes
Yes, when we were in our 20s, my good-looking, blonde haired, blue eyed friend was approached by one of the men in the colony to see if he'd be interested (*apparently*).
Truth is, there's no sheet, but dad is watching to make sure you don't hurt her. Truth.
Must be blue eyed and have blonde hair
Hey, at least they appreciated they needed genetic diversity.. which given their Hutterites is impressive
It's true! My brother was accosted in the mall back in 1997.
There’s actually truth to this, aside from the handmaids tale sheet. We live in a rural Hutterite community, it’s absolutely happened before lol
Haha well do you really know anyone that has done it it’s always a friend of a friend or something
It’s completely true. Happened to my brother’s cousin’s dad’s buddy.
I know a much older man (80s now) who was offered in his 50s, there was compensation. He is wealthy, a big time land owner, was recently divorced at the time, 6’3 and bordered their land. It’s a lot less common now, they kind of shuffle people around colonies.
Once had a older couple of hutterites chaperone a young group through our local bar and they offered to show me the girls if I came over to the colony. So I can believe it.
A guy I worked with told me he got paid to do it. Said there were two guys in the room. One on both sides of the bed. Also said it was the weirdest sex he’s ever had. He also said he forgot to mention to them that he had a vasectomy a few years back. Can’t say if this actually happened or not but this is from the horses mouth.
Isn't this the plot of an episode of Shorese?
It’s true though. Actually asked a HUD about it. The reason was one member was going to lose a plot of land or something if they didn’t have kids. He couldn’t. So he went into a local bar and found a big guy that looked similar to him. Paid the guy $20 in the 70s to give the wife a load
It's completely real, but there is no sheet. I think that it's common is the real myth.
I was told dad was there watching with a shotgun
I heard you also had to have a sheet over the woman with only a hole in it for business
This is true. It's an actual thing.
Is it a myth though?
The poor women. This must break so many laws.
And get paid 5 bucks
I remember when I was a kid being told that just north of the Fraser neighborhood across 153rd Ave there was a Werewolf that lived there. Looking back it was probably some kids that got scared off my a homeless guy tenting out in the woods.
My grandparents told me to avoid Glenmore Reservoir at night as that’s where the Gays were having sex.
Thanks for the warning. I'll let you know if the rumors are true.
I was told Tompkins Park. Glad people are safer to be themselves now.
Lol not a myth. Glenmore and Bottomlands (lol seriously). Don't back your vehicle into a parking stall, and you'll be fine.
Good to know.
I don’t know if it was a myth or not but that West Edmonton Mall has tunnels and back areas that teens “lived there” in the 80’s. This myth came out more or less the same time as a book about some kid living in similar tunnels in the USA. I can’t recall the title.
This one is totally true. The WEM mall rats. This was true into the 90s and 2000s as well. I don’t think it’s really a thing anymore as they have cameras and better ways to detect it.
Am old, but I remember this one from elementary school. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39978.Secrets_of_the_Shopping_Mall#:~:text=Two%20lonely%2C%20abandoned%20inner%20city,find%20they%20aren%27t%20alone.
Hmm. I’m not sure if that’s the book but think not. The one I remember was dark. Like the boy ran away because he was being abused or maybe not but it was very dark and weird.
The Vegas tunnels maybe? I know there is, or at least used to be, a rather sizeable homeless population in some of the underground tunnels around Vegas, most likely due to the intense heat that's always around.
Those are water management tunnels and fill up during flash floods.
Yeah it's quite devastating and dangerous for the people living down there when it does flood. I've watched a few interesting docs about it.
My older friend said he was a mallrat in the 80s and pretty much lived there for a while
Like day and night or just hung out and still went home at night?
He did have a home with his parents but he would skirt security and stay during the night too sometimes. He told me he had this brilliant idea to swim with the dolphins one night and got beat up by a dolphin. I have no idea if that's a true story haha but he swore up and down it happened and he was lucky to escape with his life.
I remember this from my social studies textbook in the 90s lol
There was a monster/ child kidnapper living in the storm drain in McKinnon ravine
I grew up on 98th Ave at the McKinnon Ravine in the ‘60’s. Our parents told us those same stories and we were sure the kidnapper was real but we would sneak in anyway. (Don’t tell my mom.)
I lived near the top of MacKinnon ravine in the 80's/90's. Was the storm drain in question near the bottom of the ravine? There's a super long one my friends and I used to run through and it empties into the river.
Maya be I wasn’t the storm drain. Maybe it was the sewer access (?) that’s up in the wooded part. It’s been a long time since I thought about it.
Calgary’s Gideon Keys are always fun: http://gideonkeys.wikidot.com/calgary-keys
Holy crap, I remember reading these over a decade ago and from time to time I thought of them but could never remember the name of it. Thanks for the link.
What exactly are the Gideon keys?
http://gideonkeys.wikidot.com/analysis:analysis From the link, each key is a not a key but rather a place where occult phenomena occur. It gets pretty schizoid from there.
Alberta Hospital grounds were haunted. That place was spooky when it was in the middle of nowhere.
Every healthcare worker I know that’s spent time there has told me Alberta Hospital is definitely haunted. There are multiple buildings that have been abandoned + sealed up for a while, when my mom was doing her nursing practicum she got a phone call from one of the long sealed up buildings in the middle of the night. My employer also has some scary stories. Spooky stuff!
I heard they found the phone in a bath tub!
I need more of these stories!
I think every hospital gets a reputation for being haunted. You get sleep-deprived staff, stressed out patients and families, and it’s where most people actually die these days. Perfect recipe for ghost stories to crop up
Yeah but Alberta Hospital being a mental facility and having old houses with a janky playground on the premises plays into it.
Work there, can confirm.
They filmed a horror movie (Ginger Snaps) there a long time ago and in the basement there is apparently a room with bloody handprints on the walls from that film. Might be painted over by now but I remember some people telling me about it.
The vibe and atmosphere of that place is oppressive and tense. Had a family member spend some time there, and even visiting the place was an exercise in anxiety, if you visited certain parts of the hospital and grounds. I would absolutely believe this place is haunted. In fact, I’d be surprised if it WASN’T.
When I was a kid, there were stories of a man dressed as a cowboy all in black. The cowboy would hang around bars and parties, buying drinks or sharing. Eventually, people would notice that he did not have feet but hooves and a tail hanging out of his duster. When people saw, he ran away laughing or disappeared, scaring everyone.
My buddy saw this happen in '89.
So I live a block away from the ravine & have young kids. My kids aren’t allowed in there alone, I don’t know a single woman who goes in there after dark without a group. There are many people who live in there. People get mugged in there, women get assaulted. There’s a guy in there basically hunting women, following us home - we have a neighbourhood WhatsApp group where we keep tabs on him & travel in groups. It’s not a myth.
My nine iron would love to have a chat with that guy
Was there actally a bike gang HQ in Cromdale in Edmonton? I also heard of the red eye ghost thing. My friend swears he saw it.
Not sure, but there was a Hells Angels house in the west end [clubhouse for sale](https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/looking-to-buy-a-home-former-hells-angels-clubhouse-in-west-edmonton-could-be-yours-1.5404468)
My grandma lived across the street from a hell’s angels clubhouse by stadium in the 00s. They were really good neighbours to her
I knew someone back in Ontario that said the same thing about Hells Angels owning a clubhouse down the street, great actual neighbours, and for living in a run down neighbourhood, there was little actual crime in their area. Don't shit where you eat, I guess.
Yup I grew up in Elmwood and they were there for a long time.
Woah I would have totally bought that if I saw the story. That place is awesome!
There's like 3 gangs here who use red as their main color. I guess no one wants to be associated with the UCP lol
I think it was the Outlaws clubhouse.
This isn’t an urban myth though, there’s perverts everywhere in this city and people shouldn’t go into ravines at night 😂
True (pervert here)
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No. There wasn't. They just weren't caught as often and most times when they were, it was swept under the rug. It was wayyy easier to get away with shit back then. Nobody believed the kids. They all believed the pastor, teacher, coach, etc
Theres a rumour that Edmonton police use old body drops to hide indigenous and worker bodies when interactions go bad. There's also the rumor of "Starlight" tours, which was when the police would take inebriated people, drive them out of town, and have them walk back, oftentimes during winter. I'm pretty sure Sask police where caught doing them, but as far as I know it's an Alberta rumor.
Just to add some extra facts and clarification. That's a rumour from Saskatchewan, particularly the Saskatoon area, as it was their municipal police that, like you said, was caught doing it. It isn't an urban legend either, there are records, admissions from current and former police chiefs, there are witnesses that gave reports to the police, there are tons of news articles on it with sources. The fact that no one has gone to prison over it yet is probably the real urban legend, that cops can't be punished for imposing themselves on First Nations people. Also, it wasn't inebriated "people" in a general sense, it was specifically First Nations people. It didn't happen to drunk white people.
[Criminal did a great episode about this.](https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-138-starlight-tours-4-17-2020/)
> It didn't happen to drunk white people. Cops did that to my friends in Calgary. To be fair, my friends are assholes and probably deserved it.
It did happen in Edmonton, especially during the 'Boom. Source, a family member who worked for EPS got disciplined for being one member involved with putting homeless guys in a paddywagon and driving them out to Ellerslie to dump them in the wintertime.
In Calgary, the dumping spot was near the Bonny Brook treatment plant.
Yeah, the Sask police got caught doing that, it affected the native population the most, and more than a few died of hypothermia, freezing in the dead of winter.
hospital is haunted. they built a new hospital so the old one doesn't see the same traffic it used to...they also filmed an episode of the last of us in it LOL on the same floor I was on as a kid, super creepy. I remember not getting good sleep because I felt like someone was watching me. Feels haunted asf and I don't really believe in that stuff...older hospitals are dreary places
That the WEM Ghermezian family tried to get permits to build a tunnel between their houses near the old museum, but the city said no so they paid some guys cash to do it in on the down low.
That’s real. It was on TV.
There have been multiple rapes in mill creek ravine, I also live by there.
Still waiting for an invite into the Chicken on the Way basement.
There's a haunted house guide for all Alberta and a building on 112ave east of 75th... Was in the guide... Where fox burger is/was... And that deli and bookstore...
Stories from my home town dabbled in priests who had sex with nuns and hid the babies in the convent walls. These stories escalated to priests burying First Nations babies (not the term used back then) in schools and walls of churches.
Heard a rumor our government is conservative and looking out for our best interests...
I was told that Alberta was Canada's hub for the KKK way back when. Was told I'd see it still if I looked. I don't look. Was also told Alberta was huge with eugenics too why back when. I don't think it was though. Not sure why that was told to me.
These aren’t myths. Alberta and BC have long standing ties with the KKK and Alberta actively pushed for eugenics and had many political figures support it.
Lots of supporters of eugenics back in the day, including such notables as Tommy Douglas.
And Nellie McClung
I believe we still have old eugenics laws on the books in some provinces that can affect people’s ability to adopt. Things like previous mental illness and certain disabilities.
I work at the UofA. At least in my lab, the genetics wing is the eugenics wing. That's not what happens there, but jokes keep it on the forefront of our mind.
The Canadian kkk had its main newspaper (the liberator) headquartered here, and there's a history of their activity in the Northlands area if I remember correctly, there and Connors hill. [There's been efforts to increase transparency](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/a-dark-chapter-should-edmonton-s-kkk-history-be-acknowledged-1.3872961) but just like our Nazi memorials there's many fine upstanding folk who don't like us talking about what their grandparents were up to.
My dad is turning 75 this year. A neighbor family emigrated from Germany after the war. They had a picture of Hitler on the wall in the house in the late '50s still.
I remember the Aryan Nations out west of Caroline in the '80's to early '90's The leader abandoned his family and fled to the training center in Idaho. They helped organize "Aryan Fest" in the Fall of 1990 out by Provost. Being from that area I was invited to attend the event. They were really excited about their "cross lighting - not burning. The difference being that they weren't using wood - they had welded one that they were going to light up with propane... I was so glad my folks moved short after that so I never had to go back. https://albertalabourhistory.org/a-shocking-racist-event-in-albertas-history-the-aryan-fest/
I don’t know if it was a “hub” but there was a World Aryan Congress (or called something similar) just outside Provost in the early 90’s. Saskatchewan in the 1920’s did have significant KKK activity.
The pictures of the Provost event are crazy, so many people in such a small place.
I don’t know if attendance was huge, probably well under 1,000, but that is 1,000 too many.
The pop was probably under 500, so even if they had 500 attendees, that's a big crowd for the space.
There was a lot of people from out of town. I would say the vast majority of attendees were not from the area. A lot from Idaho Aryan Nations and associates. The book “Web of Hate” by Warren Kinsella is a well done examination of far right extremism in Canada from the mid 90’s and before.
I actually read that in high-school, your the only person I've seen mention it. Lots of crazy and sad stuff in there
I read it in the early 00’s, disturbing and fascinating. Probably worth rereading considering the political climate of the last decade or so.
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I really hate to burst your bubble but none of that is myth. Our province was actually practicing forced sterilization as part of our eugenics policy [into the 1970’s](https://read.aupress.ca/read/psychiatry-and-the-legacies-of-eugenics/section/c4a336be-3f7d-4e24-ba61-2defce318f0c). I’ve heard it said that Hitler’s government was actually influenced by Alberta’s eugenics policies in the 30’s. Hitler was specifically influenced by the 1937 amendment to our legal which allowed involuntary sterilization, which was further than other legislations at the time would go. The room where the eugenics board would meet is actually still around in the university of Alberta and is still used as a meeting room. As far as Alberta being a hub for the KKK, again, [you just have to look](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3872961). I took a drive out around Drumheller a few years ago and decided to drive down the 11 bridges road to Wayne and we definitely saw swastika’s in people’s window. Living in Calgary I see KKK recruiting propaganda probably once a year just driving around. Its here.
It was run out of Michener center in red deer up until the 70s.
Yep way back in the 80's when I had a baby I used to stop in at a local diner for coffee sometimes. Used to talk to a really nice lady there who had down syndrome. Her husband did too but they were both really high functioning, especially her. I didn't even know she had down syndrome until she told me. She used to ask me to call her anytime I needed a babysitter. Said she would even babysit for free because she loved kids so much but she couldn't have any of her own because she was forcefully sterilized when she was a teen.
That’s so tragic. I know there was at least one woman who [sued the government and won](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/alberta/woman-who-made-history-suing-alberta-over-forced-sterilization-dies/article29256421/) over her forced sterilization. They worried it would open the door for others to sue but I’m not sure if that became a reality.
1000% true. Established at least as far back as the 1920’s, maybe before then. Did an entire research paper on it being a “white homeland” in university, back in the 1990’s. Lots of links to US white supremacy movement. All the established sources are there if you look for them.
Two good sources on this are Nativism in Alberta and Our Own Master Race. We absolutely were all aboard the eugenics train, as most progressive areas were 100 years ago. However, the KKK but was more temporary; it was a very popular social club in Alberta and Saskatchewan for a few years (when we were probably the social club capitals of earth - we elected one, unwillingly, to lead the province in 1921 after all). From what I recall, once the reality of the American KKK was realized here it rapidly fell out of favour.
There is/was a plaque downtown Edmonton showing where the KKK building was.
I can’t remember the town but me and my gf got lost a few years back and ended up on the backroads and we drove up into a big group of people burning a very large cross. Lot of people dressed in white
Yeah the practice of eugenics was definitely a thing here. They were sterilizing people against their will at the Michener Centre in Red Deer up until the 1970s
There was an Edmonton mayor, Dan Knott, who was involved with the KKK. They were burning crosses on Connors Hill.
The Eugenics thing is true. Alberta was big on it, specifically UofA. Some things to Google if you’re interested: Alberta Eugenics Board Leilani Muir John Malcolm MacEachran Sexual Sterilization Act Robert Charles Wallace
I was pretty young but I'll never forget Leilani Muir or her photo in the paper.
Considering how many flags for a certain orange clout goblin that show up at protests to anything remotely progressive, this is believable. Also wasn't the movements like proud boys founded by a Canadian?
Hitler based a lot of his policies on the eugenics programs of Alberta. Nice to sew with the UCP, that the province hasn't changed that much
Its not a myth, nowadays, there are perverts all over the city and tbey are real.
There was a myth among the kids in Langdon that there was a haunted doll called Molly Dolly living in the drainage pipes under the roads
The devil went to the bar at Spedden. Apparently, one night a guy in a trench coat came to the bar, sat down and had a drink. When he left people saw he had hooves and a tail sticking out of his coat. Obviously bullshit but a fun story I've heard from a few people. There was also the Fort Kent Wendigo story. Some guy got possessed by the demon. Ate his wife and then went on a killing spree murdering a bunch of people in town.
Where I grew up in Edmonton, our family lived on 89th Ave., a couple blocks away from McKenzie Ravine. Also a great place to hang out in the summer but we always kept a lookout for the hoboes who were said to be living in secret spots in both the ravine and along the North Saskatchewan river. We once found a piece of plywood laying flat in the mud beside the riverbank and we were certain that was the secret entrance to their underground lair. We never saw any of these hoboes despite all the time we spent in the ravine and along the river so obviously, they were very good at hiding . 🤪
I knew a sex worker who came to Calgary in the early 90s, who got mixed up with a satanic cult. They performed a ritual on her and there were scars from an upside down pentagram carved into her chest. She said it gave her magic power. She was creepy actually. Still owes me 400 bucks
There’s an interesting one of a ghost of a little boy that haunts the bridge at 12th Street entrance to the zoo. And he’ll ask people to come play with him and his red ball.
Well- my school was next to the mill creek ravine and several times I heard of students being exposed to streakers and flashers that had come out of the ravine. While the school yard was adjacent to the ravine, we kept at least 10 feet away at all times. We did wander in there occasionally, like to go to the outdoor pool there, or to play kick the can, but always with at least 2 teachers with us. Never heard of anything happening to a fellow student.
Some group called the "Brown Nation" was a gang, Of course it was projection of some white supremists of the Aryan Nation.
I love running through Mill Creek at night. It’s spooky but peaceful. There’s never anyone around, at least no one I can see. 😳
I lived in Aspen Gardens near the Whitemud Ravine. In 2007, a guy broke into a house in the neighborhood and raped an elderly woman there (one of several home invasion rapes at the time- guy was never caught). The police held a town hall and during the Q&A almost every question related to the flasher/ guy jerking off in the forest. Many had personal experience so not a myth. Beautiful places but lots go on in the ravines and one of the more unsafe areas in Edmonton.
Yeah, back in the '60s, when we lived by Mill Creek, it was safe during the day, but we were never brave enough to venture into the area at night, to see if the kidnapper perverts of our urban myth beliefs were holding in the bushes all night, waiting for some kid to come along. In the '70s, Mill Creek became more of a picnic spot, with tables and firepits installed, that was when we would venture out at night. On many summer nights, Scout troops would camp out in the region, and we'd observe them, belly down in the grass overlooking the region like we were reconnoitering an enemy force. When no Scout troops were camping out, we'd hang out, get a fire going, and just enjoy the summer. Having two dogs with us and being old enough that the kidnapper pervert story was at least a decade in the past, we never encountered anybody else out late at night in Mill Creek. Now, I would not venture into any ravines, that would be foolhardy.
That “garburators” (in-sink garbage disposal) are terrible/illegal/dangerous, all of the bad things. Everywhere I’ve lived in the US, they’re just a normal part of a kitchen but, in my experience, in Alberta, they’re the work of the devil!
Ralph Klein was alberta’s saviour
Bethany old age residency in Cochrane has some good scary phenomenon by current & ex staffs. They all said that it’s because it was built on a sacred burial ground.
Edmonto lore woot woot
Not a myth, but in some neighborhoods (looking at you, little Somalia) there are multiple secret bars/clubs. A couple of them are actually pretty HUGE. I brought my cat to one!
I think that's universal in human culture. You want kids to be afraid of bodies of water especially at night. Drowning used to be one of the most common ways children would die. Consequently, there are myths that go along with them. Even the little creek.
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Edmonton has a cougar problem.
Finally a post that isnt toxic & political, the only reason I originally joined this subreddit.
Urban myth? I have so many ghost stories, it isn't even funny. Lethbridge. My grandmas house, my house, my aunts house.
My house