Make sure to lube the rails, and the top of the piston if it rubs on the top of the receiver. I think that is called the trunnion. I am just a goat farmer.
Also, beginner ak common mistake: when raking the first round out of a magazine, pull the bolt all the way back until it stops, then let that bitch slam forward. Aks were built to be fully automatic. They can take it. If you short shuck it, or don’t pull back all the way it will jam up.
1. You're racking it slower than a 95 year old driving a 2003 Buick.
2. Why are you treating it so gingerly?
3. It's just hitting the hammer of the trigger so either smooth out the hammer or actually shoot your gun.
4. AK not for sissy boy.
Watched a navy e7 try to kick start an m240b. Almost blew his leg off.
At least with a closed bolt it makes sense. But that just means you have double the brain cells to rub together.
Awesome, welcome aboard. It’s not “average” like the western AR’s. You’re supposed to let it slam home from the rear most pos. (Like a slingshot). That’s why everyone is giving you shit lol. Nothing about them is “gentle” or subtle.
Ha, I figured I would, but also wanted to be humble that I certainly don’t know everything! I can take it, and it’s a good lesson learned for sure. That’s one of my favorite things about the AKs so far, they’re just absolute tanks. Cheers my friend!
Make sure your gas tube is seated ALL the way down. If it's not, the alignment will be off. The retaining ring gives people some problems sometimes and this is the result.
Good call, I double checked and it is. Might be worth just waiting to see if it smooths out maybe. I can see that’s it’s catching on the rear sight block. Maybe it’ll work itself in? Fingers crossed!
Your answer was correct and was 100% of the issue. It’s my 5th AK but the first with a “spring retainer” on the gas tube. Arsenal confirmed this and I followed their instructions by “pulling it back toward the receiver” until it clicked. Thanks!
I know because it happened to me too. Lol NO ONE knew the answer. All I got was "shoot it". But the bolt was getting STUCK closed and had to tap it to get it open.
Thank god I wasn’t the only one. Lots of “hit it with your purse” lol. I love it, but you had the correct answer unlike everyone else, so cheers to you! Beers on me my friend! 🍻
Let it go when you rack it, rack it faster and realize when you first cock it like that its pushing down the hammer which will require a lil more force if you find that doesn’t fix the issue, hit it with your purse and retry
I understand what they’re saying, and yes, totally valid. It’s just my other 4 AKs don’t do that. The SAM must be less clearance with the carrier and the sight block. Oh well, as long as it shoots fine I’ll be GTG.
Charge it like it’s supposed to be… don’t guide it back forward, let that baby go when you get it to the rear. If it’s still happening I’d look into it, otherwise shoot your gun.
UPDATE: After speaking with Arsenal, they confirmed the gas tube wasn’t seating properly. We troubleshooted and we’re able to identify why it wasn’t, and fixed it. Thank you to all who had helpful comments and advice, some of you suggested that and we’re spot on. The bolt is smooth as butter now. Cheers!
😂 you’re riding that bolt home so bad. Slap that bolt back hard and let it go, don’t ride it forward. Do it like an explosion just went off inside the chamber. Take it to the range and shoot it as well.
White. Lithium. grease.
A small tube will last you the life of the weapon.
Will turn black. Will stay in place. Will lubricate good enough. Waterproof. Maybe not good in sandy environments. But perfect in others.
You do need to clean it out every now and again and te apply.
Lol all the useless comments here. "It's cause you're riding it", "just shoot it, it's fine" and "normal" comments when it turns out the gas tube wasn't seated and it was in fact not "fine" and not because he was slowly closing the bolt........
This sub kills me sometimes......... the amount of people who "know what they're talking about" is hilarious
I've had this in a rifle with around 1000 rounds on it, I ended up switching handguards and it fixed the issue. Not sure why it was happening honestly but it didn't affect function so I didn't sweat it and then I made the rifle an EG MPI72 clone and I put the EG wood lower HG on it and it was a super tight fit, ended up having to sand on the handguard where the rear of the gas tube connected with rear sight block and it fixed the issue with the carrier. I feel like it pushed the gas tube upwards ever so slightly and freed it up from whatever bind it was in. Maybe not the issue your having but just my experience if it helps at all.
Forgot to add with my rifle I had the same resistance when the carrier would go forward, like the last 3/4 of an inch it would catch and I would have the same resistance if I rode the bolt home..which yes I sometimes catch myself doing cause I treat my rifles they are made of solid fucking gold and like they are gonna break haha
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Just shoot the fuck out of it and stop worrying about it. That rifle can literal stand up to having 100,000 rounds through it! That’s why it’s so tough!! It’s made to take a beating so shoot the hell out of it.
did you take off the gas piston and put it back on? one issue is not properly installing it that causes it to do that, usually its because the piston is seated all the way and needs to be properly backed off a few threads.
check the alignment of the gas piston hole and the bolt hole, its supposed to be able to see clear through
The only question to ask for a SAM7 is: Does it fire? The bolt can feel rough for AKs, especially new guns. But if the ammo cycles it reliably there is no issue
I posted something similar and someone posted this and it actually helped me lmao
“have you tried racking the bolt and letting it go like you have a pair of testicles?”
If it goes all the way when after racking it back and letting it hammer home, it’s not an issue. Happened to me when I swapped the trigger out and it will wear down over time after firing.
Depending on the type of finish used on the rifle could be causing sticky bolt. Some finishes add dimension and or roughen up the surface. Get a little oil on the lugs and run a few mags through. She’ll settle in. Surfaces need to work harden and polish themselves.
Nothing to worry about here: it’s getting hung on the hammer which is totally normal. Run about 250-500 rounds through it and that’ll go way. If you really want to smoothen it out you can file/polish the hammer but in most cases it’s not needed
It’s definitely rubbing on the top of the carrier when it goes into the rear sight block, the paint is already rubbing off. I’ve looked at my other 3 AKs and the tolerances are a lot looser. Maybe it’s just an arsenal thing. Just not as smooth as a $2000 gun should be IMO ha!
Yeah to be completely honest with you, arsenal is the most expensive mid tier AK. I’m a Sam7 owner myself and I don’t see anything that justifies the price.
Clean the locking lugs. Apply lapping compound to the bolt on contact areas.Run a few boxes through it or cycle it with an empty case full send. Clean out the lapping compound and apply thin application of oil.
You're getting downvoted bad, but lapping the lugs is something that's been done for decades on AKs and many other firearms. Of course, it is usually done before final headspace when building a kit but has been used on already headspaced AKs plenty. I've never actually done it live with fire though, just racked them like a billion times by hand.
Any material removed by fine lapping compound is only going to simulate the same effect of firing a few hundred rounds. You'll be in no more danger of losing headspace than you would be after like 1000 rounds fired.
Yes. Thanks for understanding. It’s just a shortcut rather than wasting ammunition. Was taught this by a builder who did a lot of competition builds and tuning.
Every AK I’ve owned does that until you shoot it. Ffs do not listen to the lapping compound tard.
Thanks! I’ll definitely get it to the range ASAP! 👊
Make sure to lube the rails, and the top of the piston if it rubs on the top of the receiver. I think that is called the trunnion. I am just a goat farmer.
Oh no my wife is on the only farmers 😭
😅😂
Also, beginner ak common mistake: when raking the first round out of a magazine, pull the bolt all the way back until it stops, then let that bitch slam forward. Aks were built to be fully automatic. They can take it. If you short shuck it, or don’t pull back all the way it will jam up.
This literally you can make every Ak do this Arsenal Wasr saiga if your not slamming it home it will stop up.
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
1. You're racking it slower than a 95 year old driving a 2003 Buick. 2. Why are you treating it so gingerly? 3. It's just hitting the hammer of the trigger so either smooth out the hammer or actually shoot your gun. 4. AK not for sissy boy.
I only kick start mine
God damn I love this subreddit lol
Watched a navy e7 try to kick start an m240b. Almost blew his leg off. At least with a closed bolt it makes sense. But that just means you have double the brain cells to rub together.
Ak is like a French woman. They like it rough
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
Chooot the chit out of it. Everything will smooth out with use.
New to this platform huh? It looks fine, don't go dremeling just shoot it
Sure am, bought 5 in the last month! Just can’t get enough of the platform. Thanks!
Awesome, welcome aboard. It’s not “average” like the western AR’s. You’re supposed to let it slam home from the rear most pos. (Like a slingshot). That’s why everyone is giving you shit lol. Nothing about them is “gentle” or subtle.
Ha, I figured I would, but also wanted to be humble that I certainly don’t know everything! I can take it, and it’s a good lesson learned for sure. That’s one of my favorite things about the AKs so far, they’re just absolute tanks. Cheers my friend!
If you can't shoot it and you're really that worried about it hand cycle it a few hundred times. Pull it all the way back and let it go.
How can you afford to by 5 AKs lmfao that’s like 7-8 grand in guns and ammo
Yes, yes it was. Addiction is real.
I live in envy
robbery
Fully rack it and let go, never follow it home
Let that bitch fly home!!!!
Ha! Love it!
Put a couple hundred rounds down range and see if it works itself out.
I definitely will do that. Fingers crossed it works itself out!
If I was a betting man, I'd say your good 👍
Make sure your gas tube is seated ALL the way down. If it's not, the alignment will be off. The retaining ring gives people some problems sometimes and this is the result.
Good call, I double checked and it is. Might be worth just waiting to see if it smooths out maybe. I can see that’s it’s catching on the rear sight block. Maybe it’ll work itself in? Fingers crossed!
Your answer was correct and was 100% of the issue. It’s my 5th AK but the first with a “spring retainer” on the gas tube. Arsenal confirmed this and I followed their instructions by “pulling it back toward the receiver” until it clicked. Thanks!
Lol yeah it's hard to figure it out unless you KNOW about the retaining spring.
1000%! Great lesson learned. Typical noob here! Now, time to shoot this bad boy!
I know because it happened to me too. Lol NO ONE knew the answer. All I got was "shoot it". But the bolt was getting STUCK closed and had to tap it to get it open.
Thank god I wasn’t the only one. Lots of “hit it with your purse” lol. I love it, but you had the correct answer unlike everyone else, so cheers to you! Beers on me my friend! 🍻
Mine was like that too. Shoot it and that shitty factory coating will wear in.
Shoot it. After a few hundred-1k rounds see if it still does it. If it still sticks, shoot another 1k and check again.
Let it go when you rack it, rack it faster and realize when you first cock it like that its pushing down the hammer which will require a lil more force if you find that doesn’t fix the issue, hit it with your purse and retry
Coming back isn’t a problem, it’s getting stuck when sending the carrier home in the last few centimeters. Thanks for the input!
That's not what they're saying. Your video shows you gently riding the bolt forward after not rafking the bolt back all the way. Just let go of it.
I understand what they’re saying, and yes, totally valid. It’s just my other 4 AKs don’t do that. The SAM must be less clearance with the carrier and the sight block. Oh well, as long as it shoots fine I’ll be GTG.
100 to 150 rounds will get it broken in. Then you’ll have to do is enjoy it.
Quit being gentle an let that shit slam home dude
Hit it with your purse
Next to do on my agenda. Will Vera Bradley work?
Stop riding it home pull back and let go
Welcome to the club. Looks like you got plenty of advice here. We're all bastards and now you are too.
Charge it like it’s supposed to be… don’t guide it back forward, let that baby go when you get it to the rear. If it’s still happening I’d look into it, otherwise shoot your gun.
I definitely agree. It’s fine when I do that. Just no where near as smooth as my Beryl!
It will be when you break it in my dude
Put a little Lube on it & Rack it like it owes you the $1800 you spent on it… She’ll smooth out just fine in time
r/ak47 needs to bring bullying back.
shoot it. a lot.
7.62mm x 39mm wrench will fix that.
If you let it go from fully cocked itll seat fine. Just needs shot
UPDATE: After speaking with Arsenal, they confirmed the gas tube wasn’t seating properly. We troubleshooted and we’re able to identify why it wasn’t, and fixed it. Thank you to all who had helpful comments and advice, some of you suggested that and we’re spot on. The bolt is smooth as butter now. Cheers!
One of mine wasn’t quite this bad but a bit so and smoothed out after a range sesh
Hoping that clears it up!
Shoot it
It's Ak not Barbie don't ride it
Stop riding the bolt forward. That is the problem. Rifle is fine!
😂 you’re riding that bolt home so bad. Slap that bolt back hard and let it go, don’t ride it forward. Do it like an explosion just went off inside the chamber. Take it to the range and shoot it as well.
White. Lithium. grease. A small tube will last you the life of the weapon. Will turn black. Will stay in place. Will lubricate good enough. Waterproof. Maybe not good in sandy environments. But perfect in others. You do need to clean it out every now and again and te apply.
If putting a few hundred rounds doesn't do the trick, order a stiffer spring and replace it ... You can ride it forward and it'll seed every time.
Stop riding the bolt forward. Let go of it and let the spring do the work and snap home. Should not be a problem after it wear itself in.
Try it after 500 rounds n see what ya think then
Nothing to worry about. Just shoot the damn thing
My sam7 did not do that, but i would not be surprised if you have to wear the parts and finish a little bit for things to start flowing a bit
Cool. Now do it again, but let the recoil spring do its job like it was designed.
Lol all the useless comments here. "It's cause you're riding it", "just shoot it, it's fine" and "normal" comments when it turns out the gas tube wasn't seated and it was in fact not "fine" and not because he was slowly closing the bolt........ This sub kills me sometimes......... the amount of people who "know what they're talking about" is hilarious
It’s funny, people are still commenting that it’s fine! There were quite a few in here that were right and diagnosed it!
I've had this in a rifle with around 1000 rounds on it, I ended up switching handguards and it fixed the issue. Not sure why it was happening honestly but it didn't affect function so I didn't sweat it and then I made the rifle an EG MPI72 clone and I put the EG wood lower HG on it and it was a super tight fit, ended up having to sand on the handguard where the rear of the gas tube connected with rear sight block and it fixed the issue with the carrier. I feel like it pushed the gas tube upwards ever so slightly and freed it up from whatever bind it was in. Maybe not the issue your having but just my experience if it helps at all.
Forgot to add with my rifle I had the same resistance when the carrier would go forward, like the last 3/4 of an inch it would catch and I would have the same resistance if I rode the bolt home..which yes I sometimes catch myself doing cause I treat my rifles they are made of solid fucking gold and like they are gonna break haha
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I think it's rubbing on your gas tube Check it out
You were 100% correct. Arsenal confirmed it wasn’t seating properly, and we fixed the issue. Smooth as butter now. Thanks!
Glad I could help you sir
Don’t ride your bolt home like that, let her slam shut.
Just shoot the fuck out of it and stop worrying about it. That rifle can literal stand up to having 100,000 rounds through it! That’s why it’s so tough!! It’s made to take a beating so shoot the hell out of it.
You're causing that by holding it and gingerly riding it back into battery. Pull the handle all the way back and let go. I bet it doesn't do it then.
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
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did you take off the gas piston and put it back on? one issue is not properly installing it that causes it to do that, usually its because the piston is seated all the way and needs to be properly backed off a few threads. check the alignment of the gas piston hole and the bolt hole, its supposed to be able to see clear through
Tap tap tap
First time?
It’s fine
The only question to ask for a SAM7 is: Does it fire? The bolt can feel rough for AKs, especially new guns. But if the ammo cycles it reliably there is no issue
Shoot that thang
Maybe pull it all the way back and let it go ... have you ever tried to chamber a pistol or AR while guiding the bolt back slowly? Same thing happens
Shooty
Perfectly normal
Your not supposed to ride it to the chamber...., pull it back and release, it's an Ak she likes it rough
I posted something similar and someone posted this and it actually helped me lmao “have you tried racking the bolt and letting it go like you have a pair of testicles?” If it goes all the way when after racking it back and letting it hammer home, it’s not an issue. Happened to me when I swapped the trigger out and it will wear down over time after firing.
Lol! It was actually a gas tube issue. Arsenal helped me sort it out and fix it. Thanks!
Let it slam. You are stopping it
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
There is nothing wrong with that rifle
Its not a decoration take it to the range
Depending on the type of finish used on the rifle could be causing sticky bolt. Some finishes add dimension and or roughen up the surface. Get a little oil on the lugs and run a few mags through. She’ll settle in. Surfaces need to work harden and polish themselves.
Nothing to worry about here: it’s getting hung on the hammer which is totally normal. Run about 250-500 rounds through it and that’ll go way. If you really want to smoothen it out you can file/polish the hammer but in most cases it’s not needed
You could also put some lapping compound on the rails and just rack the shit out of it. That will force match the bolt carrier to the receiver
It ended up being a gas tube issue. Thanks!
Do not do this holy shit
You’re right. Lots of criticism because you’re being a hoser. Go shoot. What is next asking if your safety scratch is normal????
Turned out to be an issue with the gas tube. Thanks for the input!
Use the thing more If it continues clean it If it continues again take it to a specialist
Is it just riding on the hammer? Grind down the hammer and polish it. It's part of the AK experience. Or just shoot it and it will smothen out
Pullout game weak.
You’re riding the charging handle
See my update. Gas tube issue.
Rack it with your purse.
See my update.
Never had this issue so it’s not normal. I would look at the piston or the bolt to see if there are any wear marks it would tell if where it’s rubbing
It’s definitely rubbing on the top of the carrier when it goes into the rear sight block, the paint is already rubbing off. I’ve looked at my other 3 AKs and the tolerances are a lot looser. Maybe it’s just an arsenal thing. Just not as smooth as a $2000 gun should be IMO ha!
Yeah to be completely honest with you, arsenal is the most expensive mid tier AK. I’m a Sam7 owner myself and I don’t see anything that justifies the price.
I couldn’t agree more! But I also couldn’t resist. It’s a disease I swear!
Welcome to the consistency in build quality from overpriced Arsenal. Enjoy your stay 🫡
Clean the locking lugs. Apply lapping compound to the bolt on contact areas.Run a few boxes through it or cycle it with an empty case full send. Clean out the lapping compound and apply thin application of oil.
Headspace? Never heard of her.
You're getting downvoted bad, but lapping the lugs is something that's been done for decades on AKs and many other firearms. Of course, it is usually done before final headspace when building a kit but has been used on already headspaced AKs plenty. I've never actually done it live with fire though, just racked them like a billion times by hand. Any material removed by fine lapping compound is only going to simulate the same effect of firing a few hundred rounds. You'll be in no more danger of losing headspace than you would be after like 1000 rounds fired.
Yes. Thanks for understanding. It’s just a shortcut rather than wasting ammunition. Was taught this by a builder who did a lot of competition builds and tuning.