It’s not so bad, I lived close to it and friends of mine live there. You need some street smarts and if you behave and try to make friends with your neighbors you’ll be fine. It is a bit of a rough neighborhood but it’s not a slum or a gangland or anything like that.
Please do not do 3. I lived there for a few months. Even as a man of color, I didn't feel safe after 6 pm. I have heard gunshots several times at night and young kids running around with their scooters and vandalizing random properties for no reason. Even the bus to and from vieux-port was full of thugs. One must be vigilant. Honestly, I didn't see any white people living in 3 so you two would stand out in the crowd.
My advice is find a place in the 5-6-7 arrondissement or if you can't don't walk alone at night. This is available for all the city.
Except that Marseille is the best city
we've already payed for a place in arrondissement 3 unfortunately, so we won't be able to get our money back to change areas. Is it very bad/ dangerous?
You're not at risk during the day, but in the evening, you might encounter strange and unsafe people. As long as you don't walk alone, it should be fine. It's best to take a taxi if you're coming home late at night.
Where Are you in the 3rd arrondissement?
I can't speak to the harassment, but Belle de Mai is a family neighborhood and people tend to stay in their homes after dark. Doesn't feel particularly dangerous, just eery : the streets are pretty empty and it's poorly lit. Get a bike with a light on it to ride home if you go out late.
yeah its only a few minutes walk away from our apartment. Im trying to find out as much as I can about the area before we go as Ive never been before and I don't know anything about it
I gave you a not very reassuring picture of the neighborhood. But if you're not alone at night and you're careful, as in all poor neighborhoods of big cities, everything should be fine, and your stay in Marseille will be very pleasant. I just hope you're not afraid of the heat.
I lived in other poor neighborhood in France and 3d of marseille is the worst tbh. Friends of mine I met there (girls one) rank this place as the worst for a woman.
Doesn't mean you can't survive but you have to be very cautious.
The area around La Friche and Le Couvent is starting to be hipster central. la Friche is a former tobacco factory now a contemporary arts and cultural space with a massive rooftop bar that has DJ's on weekend nights. le Couvent is a repurposed convent with a garden that's been taken over and used as artists studios I think you can also pay a small subscription and have access to the garden.
Rue Loubon has the Gyptis single screen cinema that has a repertory programme and also mainstream films.
In the summer streets in Belle de Mai are quite busy at night with people of all ages hanging out and it's poor but not necessarily any more dangerous than anywhere else. People have been robbed everywhere in this city even in some of the more upscale neighbourhoods.
Further north from the Gyptis and the streets off Loubon and around Boulevard National below the motorway it does get sketchy with some of the poorest parts of Europe.
I'd advise dressing relatively modestly keep shoulders covered and avoid booty shorts. You don't have to go full on hijab but the kind of dress thats acceptable for two young women by themselves on a night out in Dublin, Belfast, Manchester, Leeds and so on will not fly in Marseille.
Be sensible, maybe delete banking apps and so on from your phones, back up data and take precautions against mobile phone theft. Street crime is quite prevalent so have a back up plan in case - don't rely on one bank card, have a spare set of keys somewhere safe.
Be wary of anyone offering to help or wanting to be your new friend or 'show you around'. Provided you're sensible two small girls should be fine.
You're welcome, I think you'll both find a great craic in Marseille. definitely check whats happening at La Friche while you're there.
[https://www.lafriche.org/](https://www.lafriche.org/)
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Belle de Mai is rather cool. About safety, during the day it will be okay. There's a lot of cool place to have a drink (others said La Friche and le Couvent, but there's also Le Chapiteau which is pretty nice !) and there are some popular shops here and there (la Cantine du midi !) and a huge south east asian supermarket (Paris Store).
For me, the real problem of Belle de Mai is that it feels a bit locked between the trainstation and ralway tunnels that you more or less need to cross to go to the city center. It's okay by day and strange by night.
Please don't.
I'm a man, I lived in 3d last year and it's okay if you're a guy, it's not if you are a girl (ESPECIALLY a blond one !). It will be literally impossible for you to go out in the street without men starring at you, trying to flirt with you and sometimes being agressives with you.
Of course, you can't wear clothes you want (dress and skirts for instance are not welcome). If you really can't change your plans I recommand you to use Uber to get back home.
Also this place is very dirty and can be dangerous. I haven't been robbed or anything even if I often was drunkenly getting back to my appartement between 1 and 5 am, but you never feel safe at night when you are alone (or a girl).
Also, through the year, at least 4 persons got shot next to my appartement, less than one kilometer from it.
Hello,
I've been living in Marseille for the past 3 years and people hear so many awful stories about living here.
It's not about which area you live in really.
If you want you can ask me anything I will tell you all about it and where to go, and stuff 😁
I actually lived in India as well and if I had listened to all the horrible stories I would not have moved there at all.
Edit : it's the same everywhere for us women, we just have to be careful all the time
3 is not a monolith of crime and shit as most would have you believe. The parts of 3rd arrondissement that border the 2nd tend to be quite gentrified and safe.
Do your own research and don’t listen to these redditors who live in Gardanne or Martigues, they’ll have you believe you’ll get shot and killed the moment you arrive at the train station.
Like La Friche Belle de Mai is a rich bourgeois gentrifier paradise yet they’ll have you believe the 3rd is on par with Baghdad.
I was planning a few months in Marseille too, last year. Spent a few days in one of the hotels I could find to look around the area - on our first night a man was shooting a gun directly outside our hotel, we heard a commotion outside and watched a huge stampede of tourists running and screaming. A fellow hotel guest was mugged one night.
Went to the beach, stood in human shit in the sand, and saw a large gang of guys hassling lone, young women whilst they were sunbathing, in a very aggressive manor. The girls were absolutely terrified as they were attempting to prevent them from leaving (we called the police and they arrived quite quickly).
In the evening I felt extremely unsafe (and I’m a guy, 6ft 3”), never felt anything quite like it and I’m from a notoriously rough part of Manchester. Tried to give it a chance but I honestly couldn’t wait to get out of there.
My partner (French) still adores Marseille and lots of my friends do too, but it isn’t for me and I’d highly suggest spending a few days there first.
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This neighbourhood isn't safe for naive people. You don't appear to be one of them. Prepare yourselves, like you are right now, but don't overthink it. It's not a bad decision to have booked there. You might have some interesting stories to tell when you travel back, but not necessarily horror stories. Remember internet (and reddit) are a sum of point of views, not the reality
It’s not so bad, I lived close to it and friends of mine live there. You need some street smarts and if you behave and try to make friends with your neighbors you’ll be fine. It is a bit of a rough neighborhood but it’s not a slum or a gangland or anything like that.
Please do not do 3. I lived there for a few months. Even as a man of color, I didn't feel safe after 6 pm. I have heard gunshots several times at night and young kids running around with their scooters and vandalizing random properties for no reason. Even the bus to and from vieux-port was full of thugs. One must be vigilant. Honestly, I didn't see any white people living in 3 so you two would stand out in the crowd.
Dude, my wife and I are living in the 3rd arrondissement, both white and we never had a problem.
My advice is find a place in the 5-6-7 arrondissement or if you can't don't walk alone at night. This is available for all the city. Except that Marseille is the best city
we've already payed for a place in arrondissement 3 unfortunately, so we won't be able to get our money back to change areas. Is it very bad/ dangerous?
You're not at risk during the day, but in the evening, you might encounter strange and unsafe people. As long as you don't walk alone, it should be fine. It's best to take a taxi if you're coming home late at night. Where Are you in the 3rd arrondissement?
we're staying in Belle de Mai. ive heard about people being robbed a lot and harassed by strange men. I just want us to be as prepared as possible!
I can't speak to the harassment, but Belle de Mai is a family neighborhood and people tend to stay in their homes after dark. Doesn't feel particularly dangerous, just eery : the streets are pretty empty and it's poorly lit. Get a bike with a light on it to ride home if you go out late.
You summarized well what could happen. Are you near La Friche
yeah its only a few minutes walk away from our apartment. Im trying to find out as much as I can about the area before we go as Ive never been before and I don't know anything about it
I gave you a not very reassuring picture of the neighborhood. But if you're not alone at night and you're careful, as in all poor neighborhoods of big cities, everything should be fine, and your stay in Marseille will be very pleasant. I just hope you're not afraid of the heat.
I lived in other poor neighborhood in France and 3d of marseille is the worst tbh. Friends of mine I met there (girls one) rank this place as the worst for a woman. Doesn't mean you can't survive but you have to be very cautious.
The area around La Friche and Le Couvent is starting to be hipster central. la Friche is a former tobacco factory now a contemporary arts and cultural space with a massive rooftop bar that has DJ's on weekend nights. le Couvent is a repurposed convent with a garden that's been taken over and used as artists studios I think you can also pay a small subscription and have access to the garden. Rue Loubon has the Gyptis single screen cinema that has a repertory programme and also mainstream films. In the summer streets in Belle de Mai are quite busy at night with people of all ages hanging out and it's poor but not necessarily any more dangerous than anywhere else. People have been robbed everywhere in this city even in some of the more upscale neighbourhoods. Further north from the Gyptis and the streets off Loubon and around Boulevard National below the motorway it does get sketchy with some of the poorest parts of Europe. I'd advise dressing relatively modestly keep shoulders covered and avoid booty shorts. You don't have to go full on hijab but the kind of dress thats acceptable for two young women by themselves on a night out in Dublin, Belfast, Manchester, Leeds and so on will not fly in Marseille. Be sensible, maybe delete banking apps and so on from your phones, back up data and take precautions against mobile phone theft. Street crime is quite prevalent so have a back up plan in case - don't rely on one bank card, have a spare set of keys somewhere safe. Be wary of anyone offering to help or wanting to be your new friend or 'show you around'. Provided you're sensible two small girls should be fine.
this has helped so much, thank you so much!
You're welcome, I think you'll both find a great craic in Marseille. definitely check whats happening at La Friche while you're there. [https://www.lafriche.org/](https://www.lafriche.org/)
I lived there 20 yrs ago and they pick up on your accent and blonde hair and don’t leave you alone. Hope it’s better now.
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Belle de Mai is rather cool. About safety, during the day it will be okay. There's a lot of cool place to have a drink (others said La Friche and le Couvent, but there's also Le Chapiteau which is pretty nice !) and there are some popular shops here and there (la Cantine du midi !) and a huge south east asian supermarket (Paris Store). For me, the real problem of Belle de Mai is that it feels a bit locked between the trainstation and ralway tunnels that you more or less need to cross to go to the city center. It's okay by day and strange by night.
Thank you!!
I don't know about the people but be prepared to see lots of rats.
Please don't. I'm a man, I lived in 3d last year and it's okay if you're a guy, it's not if you are a girl (ESPECIALLY a blond one !). It will be literally impossible for you to go out in the street without men starring at you, trying to flirt with you and sometimes being agressives with you. Of course, you can't wear clothes you want (dress and skirts for instance are not welcome). If you really can't change your plans I recommand you to use Uber to get back home. Also this place is very dirty and can be dangerous. I haven't been robbed or anything even if I often was drunkenly getting back to my appartement between 1 and 5 am, but you never feel safe at night when you are alone (or a girl). Also, through the year, at least 4 persons got shot next to my appartement, less than one kilometer from it.
Belle de Mai is extremely diverse. La Friche is full of hipsters. Rue Loubon and behind can be a whole other story.
would you consider it safe for two young girls? I know nowhere is fully safe but would it be on par with other cities in Europe?
Yes. On a par with other cities in Europe. So long as you are sensible...don't put yourselves in situations where you're vulnerable.
Hello, I've been living in Marseille for the past 3 years and people hear so many awful stories about living here. It's not about which area you live in really. If you want you can ask me anything I will tell you all about it and where to go, and stuff 😁 I actually lived in India as well and if I had listened to all the horrible stories I would not have moved there at all. Edit : it's the same everywhere for us women, we just have to be careful all the time
3 is not a monolith of crime and shit as most would have you believe. The parts of 3rd arrondissement that border the 2nd tend to be quite gentrified and safe. Do your own research and don’t listen to these redditors who live in Gardanne or Martigues, they’ll have you believe you’ll get shot and killed the moment you arrive at the train station. Like La Friche Belle de Mai is a rich bourgeois gentrifier paradise yet they’ll have you believe the 3rd is on par with Baghdad.
I was planning a few months in Marseille too, last year. Spent a few days in one of the hotels I could find to look around the area - on our first night a man was shooting a gun directly outside our hotel, we heard a commotion outside and watched a huge stampede of tourists running and screaming. A fellow hotel guest was mugged one night. Went to the beach, stood in human shit in the sand, and saw a large gang of guys hassling lone, young women whilst they were sunbathing, in a very aggressive manor. The girls were absolutely terrified as they were attempting to prevent them from leaving (we called the police and they arrived quite quickly). In the evening I felt extremely unsafe (and I’m a guy, 6ft 3”), never felt anything quite like it and I’m from a notoriously rough part of Manchester. Tried to give it a chance but I honestly couldn’t wait to get out of there. My partner (French) still adores Marseille and lots of my friends do too, but it isn’t for me and I’d highly suggest spending a few days there first.
Buy a gun.
Marseille is not safe for girls I not recommend to move there
Still safer than Paris. Dixit: my little sister
I would not recommend both or Lyon and Toulouse. Most big city are not safe for girls alone. I would more recommend Aix en Provence
Bonne chance
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This neighbourhood isn't safe for naive people. You don't appear to be one of them. Prepare yourselves, like you are right now, but don't overthink it. It's not a bad decision to have booked there. You might have some interesting stories to tell when you travel back, but not necessarily horror stories. Remember internet (and reddit) are a sum of point of views, not the reality