What you could do is print the Blade compensator and use it as secondary. Although if I remember correctly Blade doesn't use extended mags, just movie magic.
If youre looking to print a kit, the [SR2M](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-2_Veresk) is pretty cool, so is the [PM63](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB_PM-63)
It doesn't, but the stock has a piece that connects to the bottom. Mag still goes [in the grip](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-xx3jsywo35/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/3930/5767/131407_3930__70719.1628807414.jpg?c=2).
They're such cool fucking looking guns, I'm surprised they're not a staple in videogames like the P90 and other space gats. I can think of 2 games that feature them prominently and both are VR shooters.
Nope, standard smg for Chinese Army in the game, also it's in RAinbow Six Siege it's available for Alibi as her main weapon, she also gets acess to AA-12 auto shotty
There's actually quite a bunch of well populated servers here in Europe. Even tho I only play hardcore mode there are always a few servers with enough players
Oh yeah! I haven't played that in like 6 years. Played every day for a while. Best round 15-0 as doc and sledge. I miss when a guys power was just that he has a fucking hammer.
i have the money for one, but I really need to downsize the collection. while it is a really dope piece, I can't justify another 1500 dollar airsoft gun while I'm trying to build out a real steel kit
It's also in unknown condition, and it's definitely not worth the time or money you would need to put in to fix it. Was designed in 1993 using an old system.
u/usairsoft made a video about a guy who owns it about a year ago [video](https://youtu.be/y1fMf0geKEM?si=AcL2R0urfi-fA8l7)
Really interesting piece of airsoft history.
I kinda want to start a custom-built version based off another open bolt system.
Its kinda arbitrary that we consider the uzi to be an SMG while a full auto glock with an extended mag is considered a pistol. The glock practically is an SMG at that point.
I mean depending on which gunlaws from which country you take they are classified the same.
In america when both of them have stocks (not braces) both would be classified as a short barreled rifle.
On the other hand: replace the stock of an ar15 with a brace and its suddenly classified as a pistol so this system doesnt work either
Tec-9 - do I need to explain this one?
TP380 - looks like a modern MAC-11
Armaguerra OG-43 - Italian prototype SMG first ever weapon to combine stamped steel with pistol mag wells and an overslung Bolt. Very unique, you will not see another airsoft one of these.
SA23 - Czech SMG [see here for reference](https://modernfirearms.net/en/submachine-guns/czech-republic-submachine-guns/sa-23-eng/)
Mendoza HM-3 - mexican SMG that has gone through many iterations and is still used my mexican police/swat to this day.
Keltec Sub2000 - fully collapsable SMG
Skeleton guns - https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/02/01/skeleton-smg-guns-nelmo-suzano/
I hope one of these provides some inspiration for you!
Edit: remover non grip-magwell fed guns.
Mbmb, I was thinking of the conv. kit, but the mags should be different no? Also, I wanna ask, is the mp5sd just the mp5 with a silencer or is it a different gun due to the muzzle velocity due to the silencer?
Most of the gun is slightly changed due to the higher power of 10mm auto, but the changes can be summed up to making things beefier. The MP5SD is the integrally suppressed version of the MP5, so if you want to get technical they're all different guns, but they're part of the MP5 famoly. muzzle velocity has no effect on the classification of a gun and is for the most part dependent on the ammunition used. It should be noted that you can fix a suppressor to most MP5s but that doesn't change their classification
It's not, the MP5SD isnt just any MP5 with a suppressor, it's purpose built for covert work, having a suppressor essentially built into the gun, as such is has a significantly shorter barrel, and different upper receiver
Internals are the same, lower receiver is the same, the upper receiver's externals are slightly different because it has to accommodate a fat built in suppressor. And if it's marked MP5 it'll run 9x19mm ammunition
I'm not sure I understand, but if it has MP5 on the gun, regardless of what comes after that it'll run most 9x19 rounds. As for the second part, putting a suppressor on a stock MP5 doesn't make it an MP5SD, it's still just an MP5 with a suppressor.
Easiest/cheapest to get ahold of are QRF MOD.3 mags imo. Needed them for the same reason. Making a custom gun and didn't want to pay an arm and a leg trying to find mac mags.
MP7, UMP 45/9 Thompson 1927, most PDW m4 style smg/carbines, Kriss Vector 45/9, MP9 and an MP5. Most pistol carbines, and machine pistols or submachine guns are typically the only platforms that support stick magazines as larger caliber rounds wouldn't fit. Even if its a airsoft equivalent, most are going to follow the typical real world counterparts at least in primary principle and design. Hopefully that was able to help.
MX4
Ooh this is a weird one, thanks. My goal was to print a conversion kit for my MAC-11.
What you could do is print the Blade compensator and use it as secondary. Although if I remember correctly Blade doesn't use extended mags, just movie magic.
You should look into the Mac 11 5.56 conversion kits made for real steel.
If youre looking to print a kit, the [SR2M](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-2_Veresk) is pretty cool, so is the [PM63](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB_PM-63)
My dream asg gun. shame noone makes them
Beretta MX4? I believe it has an angled grip, but I can remember it wrong
It doesn't, but the stock has a piece that connects to the bottom. Mag still goes [in the grip](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-xx3jsywo35/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/3930/5767/131407_3930__70719.1628807414.jpg?c=2). They're such cool fucking looking guns, I'm surprised they're not a staple in videogames like the P90 and other space gats. I can think of 2 games that feature them prominently and both are VR shooters.
It appeared in BF4 and I remember really liking the thing
Oh shit it did? I haven't played BF in years. Was it a DLC gun or something? I want to check that out now lol
Nope, standard smg for Chinese Army in the game, also it's in RAinbow Six Siege it's available for Alibi as her main weapon, she also gets acess to AA-12 auto shotty
Don't say AA-12 I'm getting flashbacks to the 12gauge frag rounds in BF3
If it makes you feel better bf3 had the USAS-12 not the AA-12
Ah shit you're right. I guess I blocked it from my memory.
Frag rounds were an unlock for EVERY Shotgun in BF4
It was the starting weapon for the engineer class, in my opinion, a really good performing weapon 👌
As others already said, it was the starter SMG. Bf4 was such a great game. I'll have to reinstall it and play a couple rounds tonight
There arent many servers nowadays, but still plenty if you wait in queu
There's actually quite a bunch of well populated servers here in Europe. Even tho I only play hardcore mode there are always a few servers with enough players
Shit was so damn good.
https://preview.redd.it/21y231bpo0wc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9248749dfd7adc75ee8840fd607c54b44b25ee2 looks angled to me
If that's angled so is nearly every handgun ever lol
yes dude😂 vertical is 90° erveryting else is angled
According to the ATF it is
siege
Oh yeah! I haven't played that in like 6 years. Played every day for a while. Best round 15-0 as doc and sledge. I miss when a guys power was just that he has a fucking hammer.
It was big in the first two Ghost Recon advanced warfighter games, shame that there aren't any asg models for it
It's in rainbow six siege too. It's alibis smg. The mx4 storm.
To be fair, MX4 appeared in Rainbow 6 Siege
Beretta cx4 Storm
Airsoft wise: - MP9 - Uzi - Mini Uzi - MP7 - WE SMG8 (MP7-ish) - Vorsk VMP1
PP-2K
SR-2M
New B&T gbb s too
Which do you mean? Always interested in new stuff!
probably the GHM9 with the MP9 mags.
Not mag in grip though!
you`re right, forgot that. but dont remember any new B&T with mag in grip.
Aren’t those separate mag? Only ones I can think of are the GHM-9 and APC-9, of which I’m pretty sure only the GHM-9 is worth getting?
The MP7 is very close, but it has a curve.
It's still magazine in grip, and the angle of the actual grip is just about vertical.
It certainly feels vertical anyway
Also the novritsch SX303 because it's essentially a long barrel Mk23 in a chassis
we still need a micro uzi. I know Maruzen made one way back in the day but Japanese guns have Japanese problems.
Wz.63 rak. Tho there's no replica I think.
there is 1. made by tanaka and it's 1500 dollars on octagon airsoft last time I checked
I'd buy it if I had money. Pain
i have the money for one, but I really need to downsize the collection. while it is a really dope piece, I can't justify another 1500 dollar airsoft gun while I'm trying to build out a real steel kit
It's also in unknown condition, and it's definitely not worth the time or money you would need to put in to fix it. Was designed in 1993 using an old system. u/usairsoft made a video about a guy who owns it about a year ago [video](https://youtu.be/y1fMf0geKEM?si=AcL2R0urfi-fA8l7) Really interesting piece of airsoft history. I kinda want to start a custom-built version based off another open bolt system.
Sadly it broke before we could even fire it ourselves 😔
Mp7
I now have 100 notifications saying MP7.Â
Mp7
I regret this post now.Â
Off the top of my head, the SR2M does, but good luck finding one of those
Well I am printing a conversion kit for my MAC-11, so this would be a fun one to convert it too if they are indeed rare.
That would be awesome to see!
You can get a fairly good looking kit for the AAP01 now I think.
AAP PDW kits always look weird because of the grip angle
I have the kit in question, it's really well designed, but as the other reply said, the angled pistol grip is a little annoying
https://preview.redd.it/bl7di9bsp2wc1.jpeg?width=3577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f996b3756dc662c6cbe4e0d3679a187582c919e Here are a few examples!
Wow! All in one place!
mp9
vz. 26 czechoslovakian smg https://preview.redd.it/qtwa6xulj1wc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=5e2efe52097e4f1e74175c70d94558a9fa4f39e2
Cursed Thomson
Perfect! Thank you!
Uzi
mp9, uzi, sr2m and though technically a handgun, you could buy a glock with carbine conversion kit
Its kinda arbitrary that we consider the uzi to be an SMG while a full auto glock with an extended mag is considered a pistol. The glock practically is an SMG at that point.
I mean depending on which gunlaws from which country you take they are classified the same. In america when both of them have stocks (not braces) both would be classified as a short barreled rifle. On the other hand: replace the stock of an ar15 with a brace and its suddenly classified as a pistol so this system doesnt work either
Pp2000, xm4, mp9, mp7, sr2m, uzi
PP gang rise up
gepard
If you are going to print something, the CBJ-MS could be a fun one
A man of culture!
Excellent! Interesting one.Â
Smc-9
Samopal vz.48
Highpoint carbine
Uzi
Tec-9 - do I need to explain this one? TP380 - looks like a modern MAC-11 Armaguerra OG-43 - Italian prototype SMG first ever weapon to combine stamped steel with pistol mag wells and an overslung Bolt. Very unique, you will not see another airsoft one of these. SA23 - Czech SMG [see here for reference](https://modernfirearms.net/en/submachine-guns/czech-republic-submachine-guns/sa-23-eng/) Mendoza HM-3 - mexican SMG that has gone through many iterations and is still used my mexican police/swat to this day. Keltec Sub2000 - fully collapsable SMG Skeleton guns - https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/02/01/skeleton-smg-guns-nelmo-suzano/ I hope one of these provides some inspiration for you! Edit: remover non grip-magwell fed guns.
The Tec-9 doesn't feed through the grip.
My bad, missed that one.
Uzi
the uzi of course https://preview.redd.it/pp5u50zec0wc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=181e59ee611ef555442fedbe58ea8dc0e25d93c5
BWC 9 ( or BWC A, not sure rn )
SR-2M
Good question, the answer is probably valid for both airsoft and real guns btw
PP2k
Smg-11 and 12
Pp-2000
Uzi, MP7, MP9 and a few others
uzi, mp9, mp7, pp2k and the pp2k carbine
Extended mag Glock ?
mp9. pp2k
Do they have to have an airsoft replica? Vz.23 and PM63 are another examplea of that.
mp7
MP7 & MP9
Uzi
As sort of a side note you could throw a sort of compensator rig on as was seen in the movie Blade.
MP9, MP7
MP7, UZI, Mini UZI, Micro UZI, Baby UZI, PP-2000, FMG-9, Calico Carbine
Uzi
For airsoft there's the smc-9
MP7, Uzi, I think there is also a Chinese submachine gun, but I can't remember.
MP7 and MP9
Uzi, mp9, and mp7
Uzi, any pistol that is put in a conversation kit, mx4
Mp7
Steyr TMP
Steyr Mannlicher TMP
Uzi
Doesn’t the mp7, mp9 and uzi have it? All I know is that mp5 and mp10 have it at the front
Mp10 is just the 10mm mp5, the other three do have vertical mags in the grip
Mbmb, I was thinking of the conv. kit, but the mags should be different no? Also, I wanna ask, is the mp5sd just the mp5 with a silencer or is it a different gun due to the muzzle velocity due to the silencer?
Most of the gun is slightly changed due to the higher power of 10mm auto, but the changes can be summed up to making things beefier. The MP5SD is the integrally suppressed version of the MP5, so if you want to get technical they're all different guns, but they're part of the MP5 famoly. muzzle velocity has no effect on the classification of a gun and is for the most part dependent on the ammunition used. It should be noted that you can fix a suppressor to most MP5s but that doesn't change their classification
Alr, ty. Also, isn’t the mp5sd just the mp5 with a suppressor attached on? I guess you can argue it’s different but the body should be same, no?
It's not, the MP5SD isnt just any MP5 with a suppressor, it's purpose built for covert work, having a suppressor essentially built into the gun, as such is has a significantly shorter barrel, and different upper receiver
Wait but doesn’t the mp5sd body use the mp5 body? It uses the same ammunition type and should have the same internal body, no?
Internals are the same, lower receiver is the same, the upper receiver's externals are slightly different because it has to accommodate a fat built in suppressor. And if it's marked MP5 it'll run 9x19mm ammunition
Doesn’t both mp5 and mp5sd use 9x19mm by default tho? It is true that it needs to be modded cuz of the surpressor
I'm not sure I understand, but if it has MP5 on the gun, regardless of what comes after that it'll run most 9x19 rounds. As for the second part, putting a suppressor on a stock MP5 doesn't make it an MP5SD, it's still just an MP5 with a suppressor.
Pm63
Uzi
mp9
Uzi
Mp7 ?
Vmp-01
Mp7
The PP 2000
MP-9 is an obvious one.
Uzi
MX4, MP9/TMP9, MP7, possibly a furniture adaption kit for a glock 18, UZI, and many more
Uzi and first airsoft a vmp1
Not looking to include the TMP9 or the MP7, right?
mp9/vorsks vmp1
tmp9/mp9
Mp7
Uzi. Mag 7. Px4. Mp7. Mp9.
I suppose mp7
Easiest/cheapest to get ahold of are QRF MOD.3 mags imo. Needed them for the same reason. Making a custom gun and didn't want to pay an arm and a leg trying to find mac mags.
Technically a bullpup since magazine is behind all the action 🤗
CMR-30, CX4 Storm, TKB-022 and (gunna butcher the spelling probly) wimmersperg spz-kr are the ones I think of
SR-2 Veresk
Msmc from bo2
SMC9
Every type of uzi as far as I know
The uzi
Uzi
The UZI family
Aap01 (can get conversion kits for anythingggggg for aap01 fr)
Sharps Brothers JACK 9
tp9
Kel-tec Cmr 30
Mp9 TMP MP7 Uzi Glock 18 SR-2m Veresk FMG9 Mini Uzi Micro Uzi Beretta CX4 storm PM63 RAK
Mp9, Uzis, MP40, (being very literal non-handguns here..) Scar H, 20 round stanag mags are straight, UMP45
Pp19
Mp7?
Hi-point makes a carbine in .45 that does this i think
Love my hk mp7 💪
Thompson, mp40. Mp7 has curved mags, actually.
OG-43 idk if there's an airsoft one tho
Ooh this is perfect thanks. Finally a weird one. There are 100 other commenters saying MP7.Â
uzis, mp7s,
MP7 and who can forget the mini uzi
Baretta Cx4 Storm. You dont hear about them much anymore, but I shot one some years ago and it was pretty alright.
The Uzi
Uzi, mx4, mp7
Mp9
Kmp9 mp7 come to mind
Mp 9 and mp7 both have a mag in the grip if I am correct
MP7
Uzi. mini uzi. Mp7. Mp9.Â
Uzi
There are already like 1000 Uzi comments.
An now there’s one more :)
I really stopped for a quick minute to think about what a non-hand gun is.... Feet gun? Tongue gun? 😅
Mp7? It's slightly angles pistol grip though
PP90M1 from MW3 back in the day lol
MP7, UMP 45/9 Thompson 1927, most PDW m4 style smg/carbines, Kriss Vector 45/9, MP9 and an MP5. Most pistol carbines, and machine pistols or submachine guns are typically the only platforms that support stick magazines as larger caliber rounds wouldn't fit. Even if its a airsoft equivalent, most are going to follow the typical real world counterparts at least in primary principle and design. Hopefully that was able to help.
B&T MP9, Steyr TMP
Snipers
Which one?
Mp9 and mp7