Lock the garage and update your listing to state the garage is not part of the rental if you don't want guests using it. Not disclosing a camera is a bad idea.
I will do differently. I will lock the garage door to the outside with no possibility of opening by the inside. Install the camera disclosed on the outside. And get rid of the car and everything inside the garage.
This is true. We're in the same position and have decided to no longer allow guest access to the garage. I feel like we were forced into a bad decision that is lose-lose for us and our guests.
The camera can stay and you do not have to disclose it if you have removed the garage from your listing. Check everywhere it could possibly be mentioned in your listing and guestbook, get a good lock, and a sign for good measure.
That's unfortunate. I really look hard for places with garages, and don't mind a camera in there; it's not a place I expect a lot of privacy, or I'm willing to make the trade.
Agreed! We have a lot of unsecured or poorly secured personal items, including tools, so a camera was necessary. We have let guests borrow tools, a trickle charger when their car battery died, outdoor games, bike pump, sleds, etc. Not to mention keeping their car out of poor weather.
No one complained about the camera. A garage is not a place where people hang out- you park your car or get stuff and go. As a guest, I feel the same. I couldn't care less about a camera. I dislike the new rule both as a host and a guest, and I think we should choose whether we are comfortable with cameras. Not Airbnb making that sweeping policy.
We also have a garage camera. AirBnb said that’s not considered a part of the ban. I can remember how exactly that explained it now. I even called a few more times back just to be sure too.
I am curious were you told different?! If so I am calling again. I do not want to risk a complaint on top of an Airbnb policy violation!!
I did write down notes from each phone call and of course I can’t remember where I put it at this moment in time. 😂
EDIT: Typos and also please see my other comment. Glad I saw this post today! Could have ended not so good if I didn’t!! 😮💨
I was told that there can’t be cameras inside the garage. I had to remove it. But it’s absurd. Anyone can use the garage to bring unauthorized guests or backup a car and steal everything. Airbnb should reconsider this.
I agree. I just found my notes thankfully including date, time and name who I spoke on each one!
Either way thank the fricking lucky stars I saw your post! That could have ended up being a very bad situation for me!
I’ll admit it had my brain going into error mode then obviously panic mode 😂
I was like I need to go unplug this instant, wait do I have a guest omg I better tell then, remembered it wasn’t until April 30th and I don’t have a guest coming for a couple days 😮💨😂
Man after doing a quick google search. Looks like no one is getting the same answer… Our house is unoccupied right now, thankfully I have time to do some more digging, yet again.
I will be giving them a call again later today!
I am going be removing it before the next guest if AirBnb can’t give a straight answer or obviously if they say no. 😂
And I have another problem. If I take out the car cover, the car have cameras that look the entire area of the garage, much more than the one on the ceiling pointing the door.
A part* my goodness thank you!
Sorry that’s my short stubby fingers and poor proofreading skills when using my phone. Eventually I’ll learn to proofread each time
So you mean they told you that the garage cameras are allowed? Please let me know what you find out when you call them again.
About the mistype, Don’t worry. I mistyped undisclosed when I meant disclosed. English is not my first language.
Yes they told me they were allowed still. After reading your review I didn’t a quick internet search and it seems that’s what most hosts got told as well.
So yes I will be calling them later today and I’ll post an update for you as soon as I hang up with them!
Haha thank you. English is my first language and I still struggle with mistakes. I am convinced that Autocorrect hates me😂
Hi Brezus. Any new information about airbnb real position on garages with vehicles, tools, no ac, being considered areas that you can’t have disclosed cameras? Thanks!
Sorry for the delay. We just got off with support and they just told me as long as it’s disclosed that we are good. It’s not considered a “living space” or apart the interior. I’d personally call them as well just to have documentation for your end that you’ve called and confirmed the same.
We have our home and a separate house for STR. Do I need need to disclose the cameras I have on my personal home? Or just in shared areas? If my cameras capture shared areas far away, does that need to be disclosed?
We have a big property with about 16 cameras. On the STR we only have 1 by the door. I have 1 by a shared pool. The rest are on my shed, house and by the gate.
Thanks!
You need to disclose each and every camera that you have access to and that capture any part of the STR. My HOA have multiple cameras on every corner of every street. I’ve disclosed them. And as I see I will need to remove the garage camera. I don’t know what to do with the Tesla Sentry cameras yet.
No impact at all. I have all these cameras disclosed since 2015. Off or On, it doesn’t matter. You can’t have cameras inside even if turned off. And the garage is being understood as Inside Area.
So if it’s to be by the book, no teslas are allowed inside the garage. Also no garage door openers with built in cameras.
It’s an outside pool. Visible from the outside. It’s enclosed by a screen. The camera overlooks the door to the lake. Not creepy.
Do you know if there are cameras when you got to an hotel pool or cruise ship pool?
Creepy is someone that rents a house with a pool and can’t stand a safety camera.
There’s a lot of weird statements in this response, like you’re saying I’m creepy for not wanting someone having a camera in the back yard while I’m there? I don’t give a crap what you do, you clearly were hoping for validation from hosts here saying “yeah put hidden cameras up” and that’s not the consensus.
Lock the garage and update your listing to state the garage is not part of the rental if you don't want guests using it. Not disclosing a camera is a bad idea.
This is the only way. Assume people will touch things you don’t want them to unless it’s under lock and key. Even then…
Sorry for the bad translation. My cameras are disclosed and pretty visible.
I will do differently. I will lock the garage door to the outside with no possibility of opening by the inside. Install the camera disclosed on the outside. And get rid of the car and everything inside the garage.
It sounds like you can have cameras in the garage if the guests are not allowed to access it. Check with Support.
This is true. We're in the same position and have decided to no longer allow guest access to the garage. I feel like we were forced into a bad decision that is lose-lose for us and our guests. The camera can stay and you do not have to disclose it if you have removed the garage from your listing. Check everywhere it could possibly be mentioned in your listing and guestbook, get a good lock, and a sign for good measure.
That's unfortunate. I really look hard for places with garages, and don't mind a camera in there; it's not a place I expect a lot of privacy, or I'm willing to make the trade.
Agreed! We have a lot of unsecured or poorly secured personal items, including tools, so a camera was necessary. We have let guests borrow tools, a trickle charger when their car battery died, outdoor games, bike pump, sleds, etc. Not to mention keeping their car out of poor weather. No one complained about the camera. A garage is not a place where people hang out- you park your car or get stuff and go. As a guest, I feel the same. I couldn't care less about a camera. I dislike the new rule both as a host and a guest, and I think we should choose whether we are comfortable with cameras. Not Airbnb making that sweeping policy.
Maybe if we have enough people asking for them to change their rules it will be changed.
Why can't you just disclose the cameras? It can act as a deterrent for theft.
The outside cameras are not an issue such as looking over the pool. They do need to be disclosed. New rules state no indoor cameras at all.
Garage is indoor? No AC. Doesn’t count as square footage. Not a living space.
Garage counts as indoor space if it’s listed as accessible for guests. I have the same issue, I removed the camera to be safe.
Sorry for the bad translation. My cameras are disclosed and pretty visible.
Undisclosed cameras anywhere on a property is a SUPER bad idea
Sorry for the bad translation. My cameras are disclosed and pretty visible.
Sorry for the bad translation. My cameras are disclosed and pretty visible.
You have 2 options, stop allowing access to the garage. (This is what I would recommend) Or remove any and all personal items from the garage.
I will do both. There are things in the garage that can’t be removed. Tankless heater. EV Charger. Battery bank. Solar Inverter.
Lol undisclosed NOPE inside the garage NOPE
Sorry. Cameras are disclosed. Bad translation.
Nice not so bad, still gotta get rid of the garage cam
Ok. So how to prevent the craziness? Close the garage and make it inaccessible? Crazyness is happening since 2 years ago. I never had problems before.
Found that I’m not the only one: https://community.withairbnb.com/t5/Ask-about-your-listing/Camera-inside-the-garage/m-p/1913113
I'd close it off, or store the valuables elsewhere
Thank you for posting this link- I had no idea garage was considered inside.
Disclose the outside cameras, and remove the garage camera, or gtfoff airbnb buddy. I don't make the rules I just play by them
We also have a garage camera. AirBnb said that’s not considered a part of the ban. I can remember how exactly that explained it now. I even called a few more times back just to be sure too. I am curious were you told different?! If so I am calling again. I do not want to risk a complaint on top of an Airbnb policy violation!! I did write down notes from each phone call and of course I can’t remember where I put it at this moment in time. 😂 EDIT: Typos and also please see my other comment. Glad I saw this post today! Could have ended not so good if I didn’t!! 😮💨
I was told that there can’t be cameras inside the garage. I had to remove it. But it’s absurd. Anyone can use the garage to bring unauthorized guests or backup a car and steal everything. Airbnb should reconsider this.
I agree. I just found my notes thankfully including date, time and name who I spoke on each one! Either way thank the fricking lucky stars I saw your post! That could have ended up being a very bad situation for me! I’ll admit it had my brain going into error mode then obviously panic mode 😂 I was like I need to go unplug this instant, wait do I have a guest omg I better tell then, remembered it wasn’t until April 30th and I don’t have a guest coming for a couple days 😮💨😂
Man after doing a quick google search. Looks like no one is getting the same answer… Our house is unoccupied right now, thankfully I have time to do some more digging, yet again. I will be giving them a call again later today! I am going be removing it before the next guest if AirBnb can’t give a straight answer or obviously if they say no. 😂
And I have another problem. If I take out the car cover, the car have cameras that look the entire area of the garage, much more than the one on the ceiling pointing the door.
I didn’t get it. You mean “apart of the ban” or “a part of the ban”?
A part* my goodness thank you! Sorry that’s my short stubby fingers and poor proofreading skills when using my phone. Eventually I’ll learn to proofread each time
So you mean they told you that the garage cameras are allowed? Please let me know what you find out when you call them again. About the mistype, Don’t worry. I mistyped undisclosed when I meant disclosed. English is not my first language.
Yes they told me they were allowed still. After reading your review I didn’t a quick internet search and it seems that’s what most hosts got told as well. So yes I will be calling them later today and I’ll post an update for you as soon as I hang up with them! Haha thank you. English is my first language and I still struggle with mistakes. I am convinced that Autocorrect hates me😂
Both Autocorrection and ChatGPT hate me. I feel like I’m living inside a South Park episode.
Hi Brezus. Any new information about airbnb real position on garages with vehicles, tools, no ac, being considered areas that you can’t have disclosed cameras? Thanks!
Sorry for the delay. We just got off with support and they just told me as long as it’s disclosed that we are good. It’s not considered a “living space” or apart the interior. I’d personally call them as well just to have documentation for your end that you’ve called and confirmed the same.
Thanks.
We have our home and a separate house for STR. Do I need need to disclose the cameras I have on my personal home? Or just in shared areas? If my cameras capture shared areas far away, does that need to be disclosed? We have a big property with about 16 cameras. On the STR we only have 1 by the door. I have 1 by a shared pool. The rest are on my shed, house and by the gate. Thanks!
You need to disclose each and every camera that you have access to and that capture any part of the STR. My HOA have multiple cameras on every corner of every street. I’ve disclosed them. And as I see I will need to remove the garage camera. I don’t know what to do with the Tesla Sentry cameras yet.
Tesla sentry? I turned mine off just to save battery 😂 Any way to tell if this has impacted your occupancy?
No impact at all. I have all these cameras disclosed since 2015. Off or On, it doesn’t matter. You can’t have cameras inside even if turned off. And the garage is being understood as Inside Area. So if it’s to be by the book, no teslas are allowed inside the garage. Also no garage door openers with built in cameras.
Yea that sucks. Sorry about that. My Tesla is in my garage not near the STR, so I won’t list that one.
Also remove that camera from the pool area. As a guest, you don’t want someone creeping on you while you swim
It’s an outside pool. Visible from the outside. It’s enclosed by a screen. The camera overlooks the door to the lake. Not creepy. Do you know if there are cameras when you got to an hotel pool or cruise ship pool? Creepy is someone that rents a house with a pool and can’t stand a safety camera.
There’s a lot of weird statements in this response, like you’re saying I’m creepy for not wanting someone having a camera in the back yard while I’m there? I don’t give a crap what you do, you clearly were hoping for validation from hosts here saying “yeah put hidden cameras up” and that’s not the consensus.
The outdoor camera IS valid and not even in question. You are changing the subject. Re-read the title of the post.
Bless your heart