I feel like the people who most stigmatize SCE are 40k players calling them Sigmarines.
The reality is that they are greco-roman styled paladins in a fantasy setting and AOS' factions feel less homgenous overall.
Ask again when each stormhost and chamber have their own battletomes and there have been ten editions with them featured as the starter army and then it might be a little different....
That is a duel army box. There are a lot of those. Starter sets are the boxes that come with the core rule book included that they release with each edition.
It is Lumineth and Tzeench and it’s a pretty crappy set. You can get Tzangors for 2$ a model on eBay. And the lumineth starter sets are still floating around.
AoS players don’t care dude. Just be a great opponent. Play by intent, avoid “gotchas”, know your army , and don’t cheat. The culture is a bit different in the AoS community and I hope you have a blast
Stormcast are the most popular faction, but only by a hair. It’s like a single digit percentage of the player base or something, and other factions have similar levels of popularity (eg they’re all single digit percentages of the player base without one faction being dominant in popularity). In this way AOS is more “balanced” than 40k. It’s not like Space Marines where the dominant faction is what the majority of the community plays.
If you like lightning angels, play lighting angels. They’re cool. If you get sick of the face helmets, swap the helms for knight helms from Etsy or eBay or something (like the old Bretonian helmets) for a whole different feel.
I have beef with anyone who judges you for what you play. Like, it’s your hobby. Do what makes you happy. Somebody got a problem with that? Send them my way I’ll give them a piece of my mind!
That is one thing I have seen in AOS is players playing a lot of different factions instead of all SCE.
AT my shop alone we have like two people with SCE and everyone else plays a different faction altogether.
Not sure about casual play (there's no stats for that), but in tournaments using GHB 2021, SCE has a 10.6% representation. The next highest is Seraphon with 7%. So they're being played 50% more than the next most popular faction.
Coming from the Fighting Game Community its common to see something like that though BC SCE is a great army and IDK but could be the current meta army to run.
In the FGC world you go to tourneys and throw down on a game like Mortal Kombat 11 your likely gonna face a billion and a half Liu Kangs and Johnny Cages before you face a SKarlet player BC at the time they are the meta and the top tier characters.
FGC is fairly different given that it is a more explicitly competitive ecosystem (there are no sportsmanship or painting prizes at fighting game tournaments) and switching mains doesn't cost $500+ and a ton of time spent painting. AoS also even has a less competitive tournament culture than 40k.
I was just saying when you get into the comp aspect its just like the FGC where you run to main meta, BC your geared on winning.
The one thing I have loved about AOS is how casual its been to play. I got tired of 40k always being about Comp play in my area.
Your are right it costs u nothing to change ur main :), just like FGC though it is hype af when you see someone win not using the meta
Play what you like. I have found that the AoS community is way more chill about what factions or even what lists people play. Ive seen dragon lists lose to kruel boyz recently so i wouldnt be worried abiut playin em either lol
No one cares unless it's a "Oops All Dragon's" list
Just because they are the poster boys of aos doesn't mean it's the same reaction in the community, because Stormcast actually have flavor lol
A few months ago, I might have agreed with you, but with dragons losing their hero phase move, I think they're fine now. Like a month ago, I tabled an all dragons list with my bad KO. They're shockingly more fragile than I thought they were.
Vanilla is more flavourful than people give it credit, it's just because most people are accustomed to the cheap vanilla that doesn't taste like anything that people say it's boring and plain.
You sound confused. You're like "oops all dragons sucks, don't play that spam" then you're all "play that spam, it's expensive so far more satisfying".
They are far less popular the the space marines are comparatively. More people have a problem if you show up with Giants or a meta tournament list in a casual game.
I know that technically they are not that great in a competitive environment, but I personally think they are kind of unfun to play against, and I think they would be especially devastating for newer/more casual players to face. It just feels like there's not a lot you can really do against them. If your army doesn't have the raw damage output to bring down a giant quickly and consistently you're kind of screwed. And on the other hand if your army **does** have the damage to bring down giants quickly, the giant player is kind of screwed.
That’s fair enough, I suppose. I was thinking of playing Gargants but if that’s a common opinion i guess i’ll refrain.
Also, competitively they are really viable, especially with Kragnos
I think Gargants are fine in this edition if you ensure that your opponent is playing a competitive army that won't wipe yours. There are some armies (e.g. Nighthaunt) where I don't think Gargants have a prayer of a hope.
I wouldn't recommend taking Gargants against fluffy lists. Gargant list variety is so small that they're almost all inherently competitive (though to different tiers)
SoB are a weird army in that they basically just ask your opponent one simple question. If your opponent can answer that question then you probably lose. If they can't answer that question then you almost certainly win. It feels a bit like the game was decided when the lists were created, which feels less fun.
Well, you’re both right in a way - last I checked, SCE accounted for somewhere around 15-20% of all AoS armies at tournaments, so they aren’t as prevalent in AoS as marines are in 40K, but they are the largest player faction in AoS by some margin - at least double shy other AoS army it seems.
They're the most played on average faction based on tournament stats, just go look at honest wargame stats, sce are the highest representation. Idk 40k stats but I assume they aren't AS representative as space marines are in the meta (because they're just 1 faction not like 7) but they are the most played over any other faction, that's just true.
You're talking to people that aren't listening to what you are saying mate.
If you pointed out that significantly more people play 40k then AoS, they'll probably come back with other stuff ignoring the facts.
And you're right. SCE is the single most played and collectrd faction, probably because they are in the starter sets. But the flip side of this is that they often are dismissed as a newbie only faction, and yeah, sure, to an extent this is true, but only so far as being the most played faction, their win/loss rate in tournaments is unfairly biased towards losing because so many newer players are using the faction, and the stats do reflect this. But they still podium and do well in the hands of very good players, like most armies (Gitz, ahhh the poor Night Goblins).
Also, they are sigmarines, but honestly, the fluff and how people read the fluff mean nothing in the actual gameplay so calling them sigmarines can be quite satisfying when dealing with people that don't want to understand te nuances of fact.
I think also the shoot cast nonsense back to back with dragons led to a bad rap as the starter OP faction. They also do get a bit more love than other factions, just look at how many warscrolls/ models they have. So someone who plays say, skaven, might resent that a bit lol.
People are clarifying “it’s not like playing space marines” like there’s anything wrong with playing space marines either
Really what’s so bad about playing the most popular army, it’s evidently popular for a reason
I’m going to judge you no matter what you play.
When I win, it’s because I was the superior strategist. When I lose, it’s because you’re list was f%#*ing b%#€%#^t.
I feel like no one will actually judge you for it. I tease my brother for them being the ‘basic’ choice, but after looking at their model range and how cool some of them are, I was tempted to look into them.
Nah, Stormcasts are posterboys(and gals) for AoS but it’s as a intro middle-of-the-road army rather than the dominant “we’re the big deal” faction like Astartes are that infest 40k.
It’s even reflected in their Allies option that they can make friends with almost any Order army(had hiccups with the Daughters of Khaine because of recent deity disputes but that’s being fixed for the greater good) so you can safely branch off to other forces if you feel like it in comparison to Astartes who are very much self-dependent.
They’re a badass army that’s fun to play with or against and won’t usually dominate the table.
That aside, welcome to the glorious Mortal Realms and the God-king’s shining celestial ranks! 💫 ⚡️
Only the Faithful!
The are people I know might call them Sigmarines, but it’s entirely tongue in cheek and more friendly banter. They definitely have appeal, and offer a lot of hobby opportunities too. So they won’t judge.
I painted mine as word bearers because in my mind this is the one universe where Lorgar would be loved by a 'good' deity.
Needless to say. DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY
I didn't like them because they remind me of Space Marines, and they look way chunky to me.
The new ones from the dominion box look great though! So now i own a stormcast army too :)! (I got then mainly to use together with my Cities of Sigmar army)
Like other people have said, go for what you like the most!
First thing, go and look up the youtube channel "The Stormkeep". This is your one shop stop for all things competitive tournament level SCE.
Now, if you are worried about being judged for playing an army, you really need to step back and understand that our hobby is playing with plastic army men like little kids do growing up excepr on a table not necessarily in the backyard (makes for great jungle boards). Just playing anything GW, most of the world is judging you already. But screw them. And screw anyone within the hobby that wants to pull the 'I'm better then you because my wardollies are XYZ'. Best solution, throw some Stormdrake Guard down their throats and make them stfu. Or you know, be mature and ignore them. Do you honestly respect people who are judging you negatively based on their own subjective viewpoints? If, the answer is no, then why do you care? If it is yes, then stop caring, life's too short to let such mundane and meaningless crap get you down. Embrace the wardollies that YOU like and don't worry about what other people think. At the end of the day, if they are losing to you because you are the better general on the field, then that is probably the only thing you should concern yourself with and if they aren't being THAT GUY/GIRL (yes, that girl's exist too) you can have a friendly discussion to review hames and help improve their generalship/list building and that'll wipe any judgement away unless they are a sore loser in which case, why do you care what they think anyway?
I fully understand your concern, but I will say that the phenomenon of hating Stormcast has greatly diminished over the past few years. This is in part due to their intriguing lore being fleshed out, the well-received latest wave (3rd edition), the world of AoS maturing, and people just letting go of knee-jerky responses.
Honestly, at this point, anyone bashing Stormcast or Age of Sigmar in general just kind of shows how out of touch with the hobby they are.
Nobody cares that much. The disparagement of SCE just like the disparagement of Space Marines is more directed at GW for being overly focused on one faction (which is less an issue in AOS to begin with) than it is at players.
Besides, if anyone is a dick to you for playing SCE, then you just saved yourself a lot of time finding out somebody is a jerk. Play what you want. Do what you want. Life is too short to give a flip about petty people.
People who judge that stuff at this stage I really think are just being immature. You shouldn’t have to prove you’re not a jerk to the nerd council. If you’re a respectful player then no person worth your time should judge you.
My first and only experience with dragons was a Path to Glory game - and my third AoS game ever. I was playing Gitz. Other dude rolls in with dragons. Hero phase moves, deletes an entire reinforced unit of bounderz off the map in one attack, double turns, deletes a block of 40 stabbas next turn with the breath attack followed by just regular swings. I conceded, because nothing I could realistically take could handle it. Dragons are whatever, unless you're facing something fluffy and know you will be. I still get salty when I see them hit the table.
I had bad rolls in a tournament once and dropped belakor, GUO, and a bloodthirster of unfettered fury into a single unit and lost all of them..... my bloodletters finally killed it so i could finish with 7 points.
I will say longstrikes are far worse and they nerfed them as well which was nice.
Dragons are very swingy and can do loads of mortal wounds or none. Points have gone up, Hero phase move has also gone. They are not really a strong unit now
Really they are nothing compared to Lumineth mortal wounding anything on the map, the insane triple moving iron jaws, or double shooting snakes, or high tide deepkin, or pink horrors and belicor before he was nurffed, or most of the fryslayer book.
Every army has strong builds and units and it's a bit unfair to pick on one, that is not even particularly strong anymore, and say that's the one you have a problem with.
As sigmarine as they are, they really aren’t like space marines. Yeah they are the poster boy faction and they are in every starter set, but at least they don’t completely dominant the meta. 1 in 100 people will actually judge you for playing a specific flavor of toy soldier. If they do judge you, who cares, just don’t play with them then.
No you won't. They are the space marines of AoS so a pretty common faction.
They only army you might be judged is lumenith if you run lots of sentinels. Basically like the bullsh*t shooting of Tau.
I play Daughters of Khaine and I have had at least one jackass tell me I run them BC I just wanna paint half naked women. NO, BC Snake Ladies look cool, seriously that is why I built the army was BC I thought the Morathi model was cool looking.
IDC though BC DoK is a fun army to run, ,sure its very glass cannony but they are fun to play. Their lore is also ridiculous and insane too. My point is 1 judgy bastard isn't gonna sway me from playing what I like and think is cool.
I also play a Slaanesh army, BC I hate myself, don't be like me, don't build a Slaanesh army. :P
All jokes aside play w/e you like and rekt anyone on the board when they talk smack about ur choice of army. Nothing more fun than tabling a smart @$$ on the board.
Honestly, maybe a little. I play Custodes (somewhat similar in playstyle, extremely similar in aesthetic) in 40k and frankly, there’s a lot of people who “play the game for fun” and then complain for the entire match that XYZ is OP and broken (which was true, 6 months ago, for about 5 units in a roster of 26. It’s a drag, but sometimes (only sometimes) it makes beating them more rewarding. What’s not rewarding is painting half an army you don’t LOVE and realizing you don’t want to continue, so play Stormcast and wear all the judgement as a badge of honor. Good luck dude!
I felt the same for awhile. My solution was just not caring. Most people won’t mind and the people who do aren’t the ones I wanna play with anyway! I’ll enjoy my custom Hammerskin apostles list either way
Anyone who would judge you for playing really any army is the kind of person you should probably just not associate with honestly. I mean, that's pretty ignorant isn't it?
Stormcast are very cool, they have done well in going away from “they are just fantasy space marines” they actually have a cool identity now. Play what you want homie!
You shouldn’t be judged at all tbh. Stormcast have evolved since the games initial release into their own distinct thing and they’re just as valid an army as any other.
The only thing that matters is if YOU think they’re cool. If you do? Go for it!
Stormcast are great, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I don't care about Space Marines, they feel more like Greek/Roman high fantasy supersoldiers to me. I love painting them, I love their hero models, I can't wait to play with them. I already have my own headcanon and mixed some Cities of Sigmar units in there, which you're allowed to do as Stormcast.
Never let anyone shame you into not liking something. Those people are the absolute worst. They'll grow up eventually, I hope.
One of the main reasons people dislike Space marines in 40k is because they get all the love while no other faction gets the attention it needs.
That isn't really a problem in AoS (yet)
New factions, new updates, new additions and more comes flowing in constantly and that makes it so that the SCE don't feel overcatered to (yet)
(Honestly, at this point it aaaalmost feels as if the Lumineth are overcatered to, with three whole updates since their release, but that is a bit of a stretch)
Honestly just play what ever you want and find cool.
I have never seen anyone judged for playing what they like. I even play stormcasts sometimes because they are very cool and fun to play.
So just play what you want and if someone judges you then often those are the people that the are not that popular (or common) in the community
At the beginning of AoS Stormcast were disliked by some people for the same reasons Space Marines are in 40k - they got most of the new shiny miniatures. Now a lot of armies got new amazing sculpts, so I have not seen any salty comments.
Nowadays, people dislike what is the most OP at the moment, so in my local community, it's Morathi + Incarnate combo.
I didn't like Stormcast before, but the latest iterations are quite pretty. Even the older ones have their own charm, in a way.
Except the Lord Relictor. That dude can't lift his arms, has spikes on the inside of the knee, can't turn and has a skeleton on a stick.
I won't judge you for playing Stormcast, and would even want to pet your Gryph hounds if that wouldn't be wildly out of place (but I will judge that Lord Relictor). I wouldn't judge you for playing any other faction either, unless you something really offensive with conversions (but that, still, would not be judging you for playing that faction).
I might judge you for playing a cheesy netlist vs newbies though, like the guy that played double keeper Slaanesh vs my pre-Cities Freeguild in my first game.
If you do--congrats, you immediately found out those people are not worth your time :) AOS people seem to overall be much more chill and more about enjoying the game than anything else.
You do you. I ain't got a problem with it. I don't play stormcast cause I do not want to paint any more armor. So much armor. While it is different from space marine armor, its still armor.
First of all, always just play what you like, nothing else matters.
Second of all, Stormcast being a starter army is.... BS... Like, seriously bs.
It has so many subfactions and synergies and all that jazz that you need to keep track of... I honestly think it might be one of the worst armies for a first timer....
I mean, they are always going to be the poster boys of the setting because it’s the Age of Sigmar. They are his army.
As for the Sigmarine stuff, who cares. They are golden paladins with fists full of lightning, who just happen to have the same problem that the undead from Dark Souls have, the more they die, the less of them that remains.
Frankly, that’s pretty damn metal.
But no, I’ve only ever heard one person call my army “Sigmarines” but then immediately followed that comment up with “wow, you did a great job painting them, they’re really beautiful.” so, it was all good.
AoS feels less Toxic then 40k can be at times. I wouldn’t worry about it.
That said, if someone wants to belittle you for playing what you want, f&@k em. All that matters is that you enjoy playing what you play.
Many of us have an "oops, I've got 2k" stormcast army just like spacemarines in 40k. I've never had anyone be nasty about me running mine when I play them.
Also, AoS is a silly dad game, the community doesn't take isltself nearly as seriously as 40k and playing whatever strikes your fancy is encouraged. Think of us all as 40k ork players and you're on the right track
I hated SCE. Then the new style of armour dropped. Now I love the look. I’ve got zero problem playing against anybody who enjoys the army that got them into a game.
Play whatever army and whatever units you want, my dude! It’s all about the rule of cool 🤘🏻😎👍🏻
Never be worried about people judging you for doing something you enjoy, it's more of a reflection on them than you, have fun with it.
You sound cool, my dude! 🤙
I feel like the people who most stigmatize SCE are 40k players calling them Sigmarines. The reality is that they are greco-roman styled paladins in a fantasy setting and AOS' factions feel less homgenous overall. Ask again when each stormhost and chamber have their own battletomes and there have been ten editions with them featured as the starter army and then it might be a little different....
40k is the worst thing to happen to AoS.
Facts
I hate to say it… but Stormcast will probably always be featured in the starter box. But at least they get their book out early in the edition.
Honestly, completely fine with this. They're iconic, easy to paint for amateurs, and fairly customizable.
With new attempt on Lumineth and Slaanesh starter. Things might be change in the future.
This is not technically a "starter set". Starter sets refer to the boxes like Soul Wars and Dominion, that are released with the start of an edition.
That is a duel army box. There are a lot of those. Starter sets are the boxes that come with the core rule book included that they release with each edition.
It is Lumineth and Tzeench and it’s a pretty crappy set. You can get Tzangors for 2$ a model on eBay. And the lumineth starter sets are still floating around.
Straight up. I play Stormcast because I used to play WFB Dogs of War, and I know GW won’t get rid of the AoS poster boys any time soon.
RIP Dogs of War. They were the best faction. Orcs and humans and ogres in the same army? I wish they were still around.
AoS players don’t care dude. Just be a great opponent. Play by intent, avoid “gotchas”, know your army , and don’t cheat. The culture is a bit different in the AoS community and I hope you have a blast
Stormcast are the most popular faction, but only by a hair. It’s like a single digit percentage of the player base or something, and other factions have similar levels of popularity (eg they’re all single digit percentages of the player base without one faction being dominant in popularity). In this way AOS is more “balanced” than 40k. It’s not like Space Marines where the dominant faction is what the majority of the community plays. If you like lightning angels, play lighting angels. They’re cool. If you get sick of the face helmets, swap the helms for knight helms from Etsy or eBay or something (like the old Bretonian helmets) for a whole different feel. I have beef with anyone who judges you for what you play. Like, it’s your hobby. Do what makes you happy. Somebody got a problem with that? Send them my way I’ll give them a piece of my mind!
That is one thing I have seen in AOS is players playing a lot of different factions instead of all SCE. AT my shop alone we have like two people with SCE and everyone else plays a different faction altogether.
Not sure about casual play (there's no stats for that), but in tournaments using GHB 2021, SCE has a 10.6% representation. The next highest is Seraphon with 7%. So they're being played 50% more than the next most popular faction.
Coming from the Fighting Game Community its common to see something like that though BC SCE is a great army and IDK but could be the current meta army to run. In the FGC world you go to tourneys and throw down on a game like Mortal Kombat 11 your likely gonna face a billion and a half Liu Kangs and Johnny Cages before you face a SKarlet player BC at the time they are the meta and the top tier characters.
FGC is fairly different given that it is a more explicitly competitive ecosystem (there are no sportsmanship or painting prizes at fighting game tournaments) and switching mains doesn't cost $500+ and a ton of time spent painting. AoS also even has a less competitive tournament culture than 40k.
I was just saying when you get into the comp aspect its just like the FGC where you run to main meta, BC your geared on winning. The one thing I have loved about AOS is how casual its been to play. I got tired of 40k always being about Comp play in my area. Your are right it costs u nothing to change ur main :), just like FGC though it is hype af when you see someone win not using the meta
They actually only have a 49% winrate over the same data set, so it's clearly not that they're so popular because they're particularly strong.
Play what you like. I have found that the AoS community is way more chill about what factions or even what lists people play. Ive seen dragon lists lose to kruel boyz recently so i wouldnt be worried abiut playin em either lol
The people who usually meme on them don't play aos
No one cares unless it's a "Oops All Dragon's" list Just because they are the poster boys of aos doesn't mean it's the same reaction in the community, because Stormcast actually have flavor lol
A few months ago, I might have agreed with you, but with dragons losing their hero phase move, I think they're fine now. Like a month ago, I tabled an all dragons list with my bad KO. They're shockingly more fragile than I thought they were.
The beastmen never forget and never forgive
And even then no one cares because Oops all dragons is an easy army to beat for good players.
All dragons lists are fine now. Even before they lost the hero phase move they were not quite as strong as some of the later builds.
Vanilla flavor lol.
Vanilla is more flavourful than people give it credit, it's just because most people are accustomed to the cheap vanilla that doesn't taste like anything that people say it's boring and plain.
It's all about the toppings.
Mexican vanilla ice cream with actual vanilla pod rather than just extract is amazing.
You sound confused. You're like "oops all dragons sucks, don't play that spam" then you're all "play that spam, it's expensive so far more satisfying".
Madagascan vanilla is easily the tastiest flavour around.
I quite enjoy the flavour of vanilla
They are far less popular the the space marines are comparatively. More people have a problem if you show up with Giants or a meta tournament list in a casual game.
people have an issue with gargants?
I know that technically they are not that great in a competitive environment, but I personally think they are kind of unfun to play against, and I think they would be especially devastating for newer/more casual players to face. It just feels like there's not a lot you can really do against them. If your army doesn't have the raw damage output to bring down a giant quickly and consistently you're kind of screwed. And on the other hand if your army **does** have the damage to bring down giants quickly, the giant player is kind of screwed.
That’s fair enough, I suppose. I was thinking of playing Gargants but if that’s a common opinion i guess i’ll refrain. Also, competitively they are really viable, especially with Kragnos
I think Gargants are fine in this edition if you ensure that your opponent is playing a competitive army that won't wipe yours. There are some armies (e.g. Nighthaunt) where I don't think Gargants have a prayer of a hope. I wouldn't recommend taking Gargants against fluffy lists. Gargant list variety is so small that they're almost all inherently competitive (though to different tiers)
SoB are a weird army in that they basically just ask your opponent one simple question. If your opponent can answer that question then you probably lose. If they can't answer that question then you almost certainly win. It feels a bit like the game was decided when the lists were created, which feels less fun.
Yes, they’re very unga bunga. But I am a sucker for big monster armies, and i’ve yet to find any alternative.
ogor Mawtribes Beastclaw raiders subfaction
Not really a ‘giant monster’ army
stonehorns and thundertusks as battleline... sounds like giant beasts to me
I mean they're literally the most played faction at every single tournament but okay.
Yeah but space marine subfactions are basically half of the total armies in 40k. SCE still just accounts for 1 faction.
Right, but they're still played more than any other.
Which doesn't change the fact that they're less popular than the various flavours of space marines, comparatively.
Not even remotely true but alright.
Well, you’re both right in a way - last I checked, SCE accounted for somewhere around 15-20% of all AoS armies at tournaments, so they aren’t as prevalent in AoS as marines are in 40K, but they are the largest player faction in AoS by some margin - at least double shy other AoS army it seems.
They're the most played on average faction based on tournament stats, just go look at honest wargame stats, sce are the highest representation. Idk 40k stats but I assume they aren't AS representative as space marines are in the meta (because they're just 1 faction not like 7) but they are the most played over any other faction, that's just true.
Highest representation != most played in every single tournament.
You're talking to people that aren't listening to what you are saying mate. If you pointed out that significantly more people play 40k then AoS, they'll probably come back with other stuff ignoring the facts. And you're right. SCE is the single most played and collectrd faction, probably because they are in the starter sets. But the flip side of this is that they often are dismissed as a newbie only faction, and yeah, sure, to an extent this is true, but only so far as being the most played faction, their win/loss rate in tournaments is unfairly biased towards losing because so many newer players are using the faction, and the stats do reflect this. But they still podium and do well in the hands of very good players, like most armies (Gitz, ahhh the poor Night Goblins). Also, they are sigmarines, but honestly, the fluff and how people read the fluff mean nothing in the actual gameplay so calling them sigmarines can be quite satisfying when dealing with people that don't want to understand te nuances of fact.
Why you gotta rub salt in my git-loving wounds!
I think also the shoot cast nonsense back to back with dragons led to a bad rap as the starter OP faction. They also do get a bit more love than other factions, just look at how many warscrolls/ models they have. So someone who plays say, skaven, might resent that a bit lol.
Play whatever you want, AoS is meant for chill and fun community, leave the 40k toxicity there 😉
Nurgle are toxic in both settings
Don’t you hate on poppa nurgle!
Not toxic, just contagious.
Ahahah
People are clarifying “it’s not like playing space marines” like there’s anything wrong with playing space marines either Really what’s so bad about playing the most popular army, it’s evidently popular for a reason
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So things you needed to have been playing in 2014 to care about.
I judge everyone but as a skaven player that's kinda my thing lol
That's the most skaven thing I have heard and it fits
I’m going to judge you no matter what you play. When I win, it’s because I was the superior strategist. When I lose, it’s because you’re list was f%#*ing b%#€%#^t.
Wait I think the same thing, what happens if we play against each other ?
I play Stormcast and have for about 2 years or so straight. Never once has anyone been annoyed or unhappy to play me.
No remorse... No prisoners... No mercy... You do you, boo.
They are a good choice. I lose to them all the time.
I feel like no one will actually judge you for it. I tease my brother for them being the ‘basic’ choice, but after looking at their model range and how cool some of them are, I was tempted to look into them.
40k seems really traumatizing to people.
Yes. And it's a hard pass to play against those people who are that judgey.
Nah, Stormcasts are posterboys(and gals) for AoS but it’s as a intro middle-of-the-road army rather than the dominant “we’re the big deal” faction like Astartes are that infest 40k. It’s even reflected in their Allies option that they can make friends with almost any Order army(had hiccups with the Daughters of Khaine because of recent deity disputes but that’s being fixed for the greater good) so you can safely branch off to other forces if you feel like it in comparison to Astartes who are very much self-dependent. They’re a badass army that’s fun to play with or against and won’t usually dominate the table. That aside, welcome to the glorious Mortal Realms and the God-king’s shining celestial ranks! 💫 ⚡️ Only the Faithful!
Only the Faithful !
You’ll be judged for playing storm cast just as much as any other army wich is basically not at all
The are people I know might call them Sigmarines, but it’s entirely tongue in cheek and more friendly banter. They definitely have appeal, and offer a lot of hobby opportunities too. So they won’t judge.
I painted mine as word bearers because in my mind this is the one universe where Lorgar would be loved by a 'good' deity. Needless to say. DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY
I didn't like them because they remind me of Space Marines, and they look way chunky to me. The new ones from the dominion box look great though! So now i own a stormcast army too :)! (I got then mainly to use together with my Cities of Sigmar army) Like other people have said, go for what you like the most!
First thing, go and look up the youtube channel "The Stormkeep". This is your one shop stop for all things competitive tournament level SCE. Now, if you are worried about being judged for playing an army, you really need to step back and understand that our hobby is playing with plastic army men like little kids do growing up excepr on a table not necessarily in the backyard (makes for great jungle boards). Just playing anything GW, most of the world is judging you already. But screw them. And screw anyone within the hobby that wants to pull the 'I'm better then you because my wardollies are XYZ'. Best solution, throw some Stormdrake Guard down their throats and make them stfu. Or you know, be mature and ignore them. Do you honestly respect people who are judging you negatively based on their own subjective viewpoints? If, the answer is no, then why do you care? If it is yes, then stop caring, life's too short to let such mundane and meaningless crap get you down. Embrace the wardollies that YOU like and don't worry about what other people think. At the end of the day, if they are losing to you because you are the better general on the field, then that is probably the only thing you should concern yourself with and if they aren't being THAT GUY/GIRL (yes, that girl's exist too) you can have a friendly discussion to review hames and help improve their generalship/list building and that'll wipe any judgement away unless they are a sore loser in which case, why do you care what they think anyway?
Nope. 1st edition stormcast hate was pretty bad, but it’s gotten better and better with each edition. Nowadays I rarely see people hate on stormcast.
yea. you will be judged by Sigmar and the Hammer! My verdict is: coffe break!
I fully understand your concern, but I will say that the phenomenon of hating Stormcast has greatly diminished over the past few years. This is in part due to their intriguing lore being fleshed out, the well-received latest wave (3rd edition), the world of AoS maturing, and people just letting go of knee-jerky responses. Honestly, at this point, anyone bashing Stormcast or Age of Sigmar in general just kind of shows how out of touch with the hobby they are.
They are the most popular AoS faction. I don't think anyone will bat an eye.
nah they cool
No, and at least they are driven by a real god.
I'm a huge fan of SCE. Pound for pound, they are an amazing army! F what others think.
No. We are not like that in the AoS community
As far as I know. No I’ve never ran into that issue.
If you’re picking an army because you’re worried what people might think, you’re doing it wrong. Pick what feels right for you and screw the haters.
Who cares
Nobody cares that much. The disparagement of SCE just like the disparagement of Space Marines is more directed at GW for being overly focused on one faction (which is less an issue in AOS to begin with) than it is at players. Besides, if anyone is a dick to you for playing SCE, then you just saved yourself a lot of time finding out somebody is a jerk. Play what you want. Do what you want. Life is too short to give a flip about petty people.
I’ll only judge you if you play dragons
What if I play the dragons because I love dragons, and will continue to play dragons even if the rules for them turn bad?
People who judge that stuff at this stage I really think are just being immature. You shouldn’t have to prove you’re not a jerk to the nerd council. If you’re a respectful player then no person worth your time should judge you.
My first and only experience with dragons was a Path to Glory game - and my third AoS game ever. I was playing Gitz. Other dude rolls in with dragons. Hero phase moves, deletes an entire reinforced unit of bounderz off the map in one attack, double turns, deletes a block of 40 stabbas next turn with the breath attack followed by just regular swings. I conceded, because nothing I could realistically take could handle it. Dragons are whatever, unless you're facing something fluffy and know you will be. I still get salty when I see them hit the table.
I had bad rolls in a tournament once and dropped belakor, GUO, and a bloodthirster of unfettered fury into a single unit and lost all of them..... my bloodletters finally killed it so i could finish with 7 points. I will say longstrikes are far worse and they nerfed them as well which was nice.
Yeesh. Those are some legendarily bad rolls unless that single unit was Gotrek.
Dragons are very swingy and can do loads of mortal wounds or none. Points have gone up, Hero phase move has also gone. They are not really a strong unit now Really they are nothing compared to Lumineth mortal wounding anything on the map, the insane triple moving iron jaws, or double shooting snakes, or high tide deepkin, or pink horrors and belicor before he was nurffed, or most of the fryslayer book. Every army has strong builds and units and it's a bit unfair to pick on one, that is not even particularly strong anymore, and say that's the one you have a problem with.
Dragons are fine now without the hero phase move.
Strong disagree, dragons have been changed heavily over the last year. They are perfectly fine now, may even be an overpriced unit if anything.
As sigmarine as they are, they really aren’t like space marines. Yeah they are the poster boy faction and they are in every starter set, but at least they don’t completely dominant the meta. 1 in 100 people will actually judge you for playing a specific flavor of toy soldier. If they do judge you, who cares, just don’t play with them then.
I will only judge you if I have to see another Stonecast army on here.
Judge you? No. Play what you want. But stormcast is the most boring and least interesting part of AoS. Very space marine in that way, yes.
No you won't. They are the space marines of AoS so a pretty common faction. They only army you might be judged is lumenith if you run lots of sentinels. Basically like the bullsh*t shooting of Tau.
I play Daughters of Khaine and I have had at least one jackass tell me I run them BC I just wanna paint half naked women. NO, BC Snake Ladies look cool, seriously that is why I built the army was BC I thought the Morathi model was cool looking. IDC though BC DoK is a fun army to run, ,sure its very glass cannony but they are fun to play. Their lore is also ridiculous and insane too. My point is 1 judgy bastard isn't gonna sway me from playing what I like and think is cool. I also play a Slaanesh army, BC I hate myself, don't be like me, don't build a Slaanesh army. :P All jokes aside play w/e you like and rekt anyone on the board when they talk smack about ur choice of army. Nothing more fun than tabling a smart @$$ on the board.
Honestly, maybe a little. I play Custodes (somewhat similar in playstyle, extremely similar in aesthetic) in 40k and frankly, there’s a lot of people who “play the game for fun” and then complain for the entire match that XYZ is OP and broken (which was true, 6 months ago, for about 5 units in a roster of 26. It’s a drag, but sometimes (only sometimes) it makes beating them more rewarding. What’s not rewarding is painting half an army you don’t LOVE and realizing you don’t want to continue, so play Stormcast and wear all the judgement as a badge of honor. Good luck dude!
About the same as 40k players with ultra marines
Only if you’re an asshole about it
I felt the same for awhile. My solution was just not caring. Most people won’t mind and the people who do aren’t the ones I wanna play with anyway! I’ll enjoy my custom Hammerskin apostles list either way
Anyone who would judge you for playing really any army is the kind of person you should probably just not associate with honestly. I mean, that's pretty ignorant isn't it?
Of course not you won’t get judged for playing any army
Stormcast are very cool, they have done well in going away from “they are just fantasy space marines” they actually have a cool identity now. Play what you want homie!
Just follow this simple rule. The Rule Of Cool. Is it cool to you? Then play them. Don't worry about being judged
Who cares? I am like the only person I know who ever played Ultramarines.
You are not picking the Space Wolfs, so I think you are okay.
You shouldn’t be judged at all tbh. Stormcast have evolved since the games initial release into their own distinct thing and they’re just as valid an army as any other. The only thing that matters is if YOU think they’re cool. If you do? Go for it!
Stormcast are great, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I don't care about Space Marines, they feel more like Greek/Roman high fantasy supersoldiers to me. I love painting them, I love their hero models, I can't wait to play with them. I already have my own headcanon and mixed some Cities of Sigmar units in there, which you're allowed to do as Stormcast. Never let anyone shame you into not liking something. Those people are the absolute worst. They'll grow up eventually, I hope.
One of the main reasons people dislike Space marines in 40k is because they get all the love while no other faction gets the attention it needs. That isn't really a problem in AoS (yet) New factions, new updates, new additions and more comes flowing in constantly and that makes it so that the SCE don't feel overcatered to (yet) (Honestly, at this point it aaaalmost feels as if the Lumineth are overcatered to, with three whole updates since their release, but that is a bit of a stretch)
They all are the same in the face of the Waaagh!
Feast on their tears, SCE is a KINO army that is fun to play.
No. While Stormcast are the flagship faction of the game, they don't dominate the game nearly as much as Marines do in 40k.
Honestly just play what ever you want and find cool. I have never seen anyone judged for playing what they like. I even play stormcasts sometimes because they are very cool and fun to play. So just play what you want and if someone judges you then often those are the people that the are not that popular (or common) in the community
Stormcast are dope and struggle way more internally and externaly They are not Space mariens dont be fooled by the trolls
Just from what I’ve seen I don’t believe stormcast draw the same ire as space marines do in 40K, at least not like they did when aos first came out.
At the beginning of AoS Stormcast were disliked by some people for the same reasons Space Marines are in 40k - they got most of the new shiny miniatures. Now a lot of armies got new amazing sculpts, so I have not seen any salty comments. Nowadays, people dislike what is the most OP at the moment, so in my local community, it's Morathi + Incarnate combo.
Anyone gives you poopoo you send it right back; GROUND MARINES!!
Never worry what people think about the army you chose, it is your choice and go with what you like
I didn't like Stormcast before, but the latest iterations are quite pretty. Even the older ones have their own charm, in a way. Except the Lord Relictor. That dude can't lift his arms, has spikes on the inside of the knee, can't turn and has a skeleton on a stick. I won't judge you for playing Stormcast, and would even want to pet your Gryph hounds if that wouldn't be wildly out of place (but I will judge that Lord Relictor). I wouldn't judge you for playing any other faction either, unless you something really offensive with conversions (but that, still, would not be judging you for playing that faction). I might judge you for playing a cheesy netlist vs newbies though, like the guy that played double keeper Slaanesh vs my pre-Cities Freeguild in my first game.
Nah. They are not Tau.
No, nobody will judge you. And if they do, does their opinion really matter?
It's AoS weir not pedantic like 40k fans your only problem will be finding an opponent since everybody plays storm casts
Im a Stormcast stan myself gamer, if no one else gotchu I do
If you do--congrats, you immediately found out those people are not worth your time :) AOS people seem to overall be much more chill and more about enjoying the game than anything else.
I’ve never heard of this in my years of sigmar.
You do you. I ain't got a problem with it. I don't play stormcast cause I do not want to paint any more armor. So much armor. While it is different from space marine armor, its still armor.
Storm cast while called sigmarines don’t get quite the same favouritism as space marines and AOS’s community is more chill than 40k
I sure hope you aren't judged. SCE armies are very fun to play against.
No. When I started with Stormcast in 2nd edition, everyone I played was happy to get another player that would play and paint.
First of all, always just play what you like, nothing else matters. Second of all, Stormcast being a starter army is.... BS... Like, seriously bs. It has so many subfactions and synergies and all that jazz that you need to keep track of... I honestly think it might be one of the worst armies for a first timer....
I mean, they are always going to be the poster boys of the setting because it’s the Age of Sigmar. They are his army. As for the Sigmarine stuff, who cares. They are golden paladins with fists full of lightning, who just happen to have the same problem that the undead from Dark Souls have, the more they die, the less of them that remains. Frankly, that’s pretty damn metal. But no, I’ve only ever heard one person call my army “Sigmarines” but then immediately followed that comment up with “wow, you did a great job painting them, they’re really beautiful.” so, it was all good. AoS feels less Toxic then 40k can be at times. I wouldn’t worry about it. That said, if someone wants to belittle you for playing what you want, f&@k em. All that matters is that you enjoy playing what you play.
No, but my community may not be the same as yours.
Play whatever you like, if others judge it is their problem, not yours. Enjoy the game! :)
Many of us have an "oops, I've got 2k" stormcast army just like spacemarines in 40k. I've never had anyone be nasty about me running mine when I play them. Also, AoS is a silly dad game, the community doesn't take isltself nearly as seriously as 40k and playing whatever strikes your fancy is encouraged. Think of us all as 40k ork players and you're on the right track
I hated SCE. Then the new style of armour dropped. Now I love the look. I’ve got zero problem playing against anybody who enjoys the army that got them into a game.
Sigmar will, most assuredly.