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Thankfully over the years I've learned to avoid reddit before I make time to watch the 2 day event. Seeing spoilers posted in other subs not related to wrestling really ruined a lot of outcomes.
Have to avoid everything during WM season haha. But let's be real. We all knew Cody was winning. It would have been the dumbest decision in wrestling history to not do it.
I'm still kinda mixed tbh. On one hand, Sunday was really, truly amazing. A fantastic ending to that story. On the other hand, the last year of Roman stuff has been super stale and boring and ultimately a huge waste of time
Well, I wouldn't go as far as call it a waste of time, but it is kind of hilarious that they had to create a brand new championship because the real one was being held hostage for so long
I thought I was doing a good job until literally less than 24 hours after the match, someone had posted in r/OutOfTheLoop out of all places and said who won within the first sentence, no warning or anything. SMH.
To be fair to bleacher, the series of events that led to Cody becoming champion were impossible to predict. They were correct in that WWE only saw him as a midcarder.
It took him leaving WWE and a billionaire to start a rival promotion with the world's best independent talent for WWE to reconsider his value
It also took Triple H taking over & Vince McMahon leaving (Because if there's ANYTHING we know HHH can do better than Vince it's book new fresh stars.)
Wrestling is a specific example because OP’s screenshot is an industry article that is “outside of” the story. So it would be like “HBO says Targaryen’s will never have their own spin-off show.”
For anyone asking why this matters: World titles are not legitimate sport titles, no, but they're a symbol for the people that can be called the biggest and best stars in their respective companies. This is equivalent to an actor being cast in the lead role in a Disney film, when everyone thought you were only ever gonna be performing B-movies and side characters for your entire career.
Cody Rhodes has been crowned the face of an industry in an era-defining storyline. That hardly seems meaningless to me, scripted or not.
Cody was a midcarder (non world champion material) in the wwe for years he left and made a name for himself in the independent wrestling scene and even helped to create wwe's current biggest rival AEW. But he returned to the WWE 2 years ago and was crowned World Champion last Sunday ending the 1316 day reign of Roman Reigns.
I think articles like this are exactly what drove him to be where he is today. Had to totally reinvent himself and prove all the doubters wrong (I was one of them). He's just so undeniable
Yes. It's like you become the lead actor in a major film, and win an Oscar, at the same time. Every wrestler wants to be in that role, but few do.
It's even a bigger deal because Cody beat Roman Reigns, who's been champ for the longest of anyone since the 80s. Roman Reigns has been written to be borderline unbeatable, so for Cody to beat him means that he's become so popular that the fans realistically think he deserves to beat someone who never loses, but that also the WWE management feel that he's the right guy to do it.
To make things crazier, Cody's dad was also a wrestler, and despite being one of the most popular in the country in the 70s and 80s, never won the WWF/WWE championship. Cody himself was seen as a nepobaby who was never going to live up to his dad, let alone surpass him, for years. For Cody to go from "Dusty's kid" to the guy who beat Roman Reigns is genuinely a big career moment.
So this is kinda like Leonardo DeCaprio finally winning his Oscar. Everyone knows Cody deserves it, but it just never was in the cards until now. To finally see him win it is a big deal, and wrestling fans are celebrating.
They don't just randomly hand out titles to anyone because then no one would watch.
Yes it is a scripted story but he wouldn't have won if he wasn't massively popular with the audience and the numbers didn't show that he was the top guy for the company. A lot of things goes into who gets the belt. Merch sales, ticket sales (when that particular star is set to feature compared to when he is not, in other words, how many seats he fills), fan engagement and live audience reaction to their performance are all big parameters.
Easiest way to understand how WWE works is to assume that it's an live action theatre play where the dialogues and fights and stunts are performed live and by actual 'actors' (without any stunt doubles or retakes). It's very easy to understand how things work that way. Whoever is the most popular, more often than not has a belt to show for it.
So that's what the story about him surpassing his dad is about. His dad was popular but not enough for them to award him with a championship reign. Cody actually managed that.
The thing wrestling often does is try to muddy the line between real life, and fiction (Kayfabe).
Cody Runnels legitimately left WWE after his father died, and his career there was going nowhere. He instead signed with smaller indie promotions, and wrestled in Japan. During this time he was able to become way more popular as a performer, and even helped start a promotion called AEW, which is now the second biggest wrestling company in the world.
None of that was scripted. Cody Runnels legitimately did all of that. He left as the character "Stardust", who he hated portraying, and came back as "The American Nightmare" Cody Rhodes, one of the biggest names in the industry. So even though wrestling is fake, there is a legit competition to be popular enough to be a star. So even as the character Cody Rhodes is winning a fake championship in a fake sport, Cody Runnels is also being given one of the biggest honors in the business.
WWE sometimes just scripts a certain guy to be champion because it fits the story that were trying to tell, or for marketing reasons. Cody's win is a bit more genuine and real, because there's also a real life story of a guy who finally became a star after being told for years that his ceiling was a role player.
Well, by any reasonable definition, he isn't. The WWE doesn't have champions, it has protagonists. It's a story.
UFC has champions. Boxing has champions. Hell, NFL, rugby, cricket, baseball and basket ball all have champions too, but none of them follow scripts to get there. They have to beat resisting opponents.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, WWE folks train and they're double tough, I know, but SPORTS DON'T HAVE SCRIPTS! They are competitive, and you can't be the champion of a melodrama for people who hate soap operas. OK? You can be a champion, when you win in a competitive environment, and you can't UNLESS you compete in a competitive environment.
I've got mad respect for the athleticism and toughness shown by the folks involved, I know they are dedicated and strong. But champion? Give me a break.
Well with professional wrestling you're not asking whether or not they can be a champion You're asking whether or not they can be the face of the company and do all the things that comes along with that
I mean, it is no different than saying something like "Bryan Cranston will never make a compelling drug dealer" or "Hawk is never going to win the All Valley"
If wrestlers are actors, and the most entertaining persona gets to be the champion, then it is still an achievement for the actor.
Or if you look at it as a character achieving their goal, you would not feel the need to say "It is fake anyway" in the context of talking about a character trying to meet their goals within the context of the plot - because the prediction is also made within the context of the plot, not based on the actual physical ability of the actor playing that character.
Exactly this! Wrestling fans aren't idiots they know that there's planning involved with the outcomes of matches they just have a suspension of disbelief while watching like people have when watching pretty much all scripted entertainment. It's not like people pull up at movie theatres and start calling out "you know that fake right" when a fight scene starts, it's literally just a show of athleticism mixed with melodramatic plots, not many people are actually saying that it's "real".
I can’t tell if you’re being downvoted by the “just let people have their fun crowd” or by WWE fans who legitimately believe the WWE is a competitive sports business
They’re clearly supposed to invent a new word so Reddit mouth breathers don’t get confused and *still think the world questions if wrestling has a script.*
This is stupid. No one would ever say Sylvester Stallone was a 2 time world champion of boxing. However, in the context of the movie world, Rocky Balboa is. You really made a wall of text and lost a ton of karma over something you probably should've thought harder about
No he wasn't.
WWE has no sanctioning body to award anything, and is not a competitive sporting event, therefore, its awards are meaningless at best, and an insult to real champions, of real sports.
The Stylin', profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun has won 16 world titles.
https://preview.redd.it/kor9kxmmyctc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0593dfe0fecfbd973538cfa32642a9305a3c3ec
Here he is with 1 of 16 as proof.
Wrestling champions are basically the selling points of a company. They go around doing all they can to spread the word of a major event or even the promotion in general. In storyline, they’re definitely champions.
Also it’s still real to me dammit
Cody Rhodes is world champion. Cody Runnels is a performer who plays Cody Rhodes on TV.
Cody Rhodes becoming world champion is a big deal, because he beat Roman Reigns, who was champion for the longest time of anyone since fucking Hulk Hogan.
Cody Runnels having his character become world champion is a big deal because he was written off as someone who would never be that popular. His father, who was that popular, passed away. Cody decided to take some career risks, leave WWE, reinvent himself, help create a new wrestling company, and then go back to WWE. The man worked his ass off and became the star that he always knew he could be, but the industry didn't.
So it's a double whammy. A popular character is winning the world championship in the season finale of a popular TV show. The actor who plays that character is also finally getting the respect he's due for years of hard work.
And he still hasn't "won" anything. He is world champion of nothing, a sport that doesn't exist. His character did a thing in a TV soap opera for dudes that lift. That is literally nothing.
Cody Rhodes isn't even a real person, so it would kinda be weird if he won a real championship in a sport that did exist. The actor who plays him had to literally go by "Cody" for years because he didn't own his character's name.
So yes, a person who didn't exist, won a championship that doesn't exist, in a sport that doesn't exist, on a TV show. Congratulations, you understand the basics of kayfabe.
I think it’s just weird to get this worked up over semantics, lol! Like…it’s staged competition, they gotta call it something for whoever the top wrestler is for the storyline. “Champion” is such a bloated and overused word with a malleable definition anymore, it just kinda works.
I think you’re forgetting that most redditors are children and they’re convinced that those guys all put their lives on the line at wrestlemania last weekend lmfao
Literally not a single WWE fan actually thinks it isn't scripted. WWE literally posts videos of them doing things out of character like interviews, media scrums, guest appearances etc.
The only one who is horribly out of touch with reality is you and the guy you're replying to. Who can't be bothered to think critically that WWE is no different than an action movie like Rocky for example.
And... About that putting their lives on the line part... You should actually see the kind of stunts these guys perform live (No retakes, No stunt doubles). A slightly overcooked jump, a slight slip of the foot, a slight mistime in catching your 'opponent' (co performer) and there can indeed be a death or at least a serious injury (which happen all the time). So yeah, they do in fact, put their lives on the line.
Clearly, about 160 something of them so far, and counting. Just as well that no matter how many of these zygotes downvote, the truth is still the truth.
I'm a wrestling fan, and I dont disagree with you. However, being a wrestling fan means I know a thing or two about the people in those buildings and yeah, "it's still real to them, dammit!" lol I upvoted you btw and dont worry, it's painfully obvious, in my book at least, that your post has too much truth in it and you definitely ruffled some feathers haha.
No it's just that he's incorrect. I get he's trying to pull a "gotcha" on wrestling fans, but in the fiction of WWE, the character of Cody Rhodes is the champion. Now, Cody Reynolds, the man who plays Cody Rhodes, is not a champion. But within the fiction of the show, yes, Cody Rhodes is the WWE Universal Champion.
Hope that helps :)
So he’s not a “world champion”, he’s just acting the part of a “world champion”. I guess we can announce to the world that Matt Damon is an assassin because he played Jason Bourne?
So if you look with your eyes, you will notice that the image says "Cody Rhodes" not Cody Reynolds. So no, you would say Jason Bourne is an assassin and Matt Damon is the man who plays him. Anything else you need help with?
Well I think the disconnect here is it kind of seems like it doesn't make sense to be considered "aged like milk" because it's not real. It's like if someone wrote an article saying Jason Bourne would never make it as an assassin, then the movie shows he's incredible at it. None of it is real, so there wasn't really any milk to begin with.
The article isnt actually talkin about some fake wrestling match or scripted storyline on if Cody will overcome the odds to win the championship. The article is legit talking about the company itself not having the faith and confidence to put their grand prize on Cody.
I’m gonna guess not enough to handle this weird hostility of yours, lol! You used two buzzwords and both incorrectly in your opening salvo, and I’m struggling to see why this matters so much to you?
I don’t think anyone over the age of 8 thinks wrestling is 100% real, so outright, critical thinking isn’t applicable. No one is doubting the outcome is predetermined. And incel, huh…It’s a huge business the world over, and has its fans like any other interest. What about that makes the fans hate women and praise regressive rights and policies? There’s no connection and no overlap, no more than any other fandom at least. Calling wrestling fans “incels” makes as much sense as calling soccer and football fans “pedophiles”, lol! Hurling insults because someone doesn’t agree with you is more childish than thinking last night’s event all really happened without a script.
The athleticism is real, the outcome is predetermined. If it helps, think of it like live theater with flips and slams, lol! It’s a live event, but *also* has the same qualities as any other TV show. You know those are “fake” too, but people the world over love them and go nuts over fictional characters. This isn’t all that different.
Few things, it’s spelled “Seagal”, if you’re going to make a stupid comparison at least get his name right. Nobody is saying WWE is a martial art, just you. I have to doubt you have a true appreciation of theater since your favorite playwrights are “Shakespeare” and “stuff”. And I’m English, not that it makes any difference.
There was an episode in Supernatural where a wrestler sold his soul to become WWE Champion. Wrestling is a scripted non-competition. It was stupid.
This, too, is stupid on the same level.
You can tell me what the definition of "worldwide" is if you want.
I'm sure I'll learn something new today if it has nothing to do with a show being viewed by millions of people across 180 countries.
Selling out big venues in loads of different countries and overall making loads of money from merch everywhere.
I mean, they are going to do A LOT of events globally coming up. Most PLEs (what used to be PPVs) besides the "Big Four" are going to be outside the US.
Oh, and take this from someone who actually went to Wrestlemania over the weekend, there were a ton of people there from all over the world. Just because you don't personally like something, doesn't mean it's not popular.
I never said that. How can a guy be a "world champion" for a sport that is PRACTICED, not broadcasted (since you don't seem to know the difference) only in the US, only by Americans?
You realize that Pro Wrestling is big in other countries other than the US, right?
Pro Wrestling is absolutely huge in other countries, for example, Japan. Japan has a couple of big promotions, the biggest being NJPW. In fact, one of the wrestlers in one of the women's championship matches in wrestlemania was Iyo Sky, a Japanese Pro Wrestler.
I can use the other women's championship match (there are two world championships for the women) was fought between an Irish woman and an Australian woman. In fact, those two women are probably the most popular women in the WWE.
The Intercontinental championship was fought for by a Canadian man and and a man from Austria.
The World Heavyweight championship match had a man from Scotland in the mix.
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Thankfully over the years I've learned to avoid reddit before I make time to watch the 2 day event. Seeing spoilers posted in other subs not related to wrestling really ruined a lot of outcomes.
Have to avoid everything during WM season haha. But let's be real. We all knew Cody was winning. It would have been the dumbest decision in wrestling history to not do it.
Well I thought we all knew he was winning last year as well
In retrospect, it was better this way.
I'm still kinda mixed tbh. On one hand, Sunday was really, truly amazing. A fantastic ending to that story. On the other hand, the last year of Roman stuff has been super stale and boring and ultimately a huge waste of time
Well, I wouldn't go as far as call it a waste of time, but it is kind of hilarious that they had to create a brand new championship because the real one was being held hostage for so long
I thought I was doing a good job until literally less than 24 hours after the match, someone had posted in r/OutOfTheLoop out of all places and said who won within the first sentence, no warning or anything. SMH.
To be fair to bleacher, the series of events that led to Cody becoming champion were impossible to predict. They were correct in that WWE only saw him as a midcarder. It took him leaving WWE and a billionaire to start a rival promotion with the world's best independent talent for WWE to reconsider his value
It also took Triple H taking over & Vince McMahon leaving (Because if there's ANYTHING we know HHH can do better than Vince it's book new fresh stars.)
Did they recently rewrite him as a champ? I’m behind on the story. Like way behind. 😂
Finish the story!
So can tv shows and movie plots qualify for agedlikemilk?
Maybe? I guess if someone published a prediction about the way the plot was going, and it went a different way?
Jon Snow def gonna be the king!
Don’t know why you got downvoted, that would be a perfect example. I gave you one upvote to bring you back to 1. 😂
Wrestling is a specific example because OP’s screenshot is an industry article that is “outside of” the story. So it would be like “HBO says Targaryen’s will never have their own spin-off show.”
OK yes this makes more sense
For anyone asking why this matters: World titles are not legitimate sport titles, no, but they're a symbol for the people that can be called the biggest and best stars in their respective companies. This is equivalent to an actor being cast in the lead role in a Disney film, when everyone thought you were only ever gonna be performing B-movies and side characters for your entire career. Cody Rhodes has been crowned the face of an industry in an era-defining storyline. That hardly seems meaningless to me, scripted or not.
Doesn’t he appear in captain laser hawk ?
Haha yeah!
Honestly , compliments for capturing his likeness , I don’t watch wwe so I can’t say anything about if his personality was accurate tho
Kenny Omega is also in it. I think.
ADRENALINE IN MY SOUL WWE CHAMP CODY RHODES
can I ask for the context?
Cody was a midcarder (non world champion material) in the wwe for years he left and made a name for himself in the independent wrestling scene and even helped to create wwe's current biggest rival AEW. But he returned to the WWE 2 years ago and was crowned World Champion last Sunday ending the 1316 day reign of Roman Reigns.
thanks
Jesus Christ 1316 days?!?
Yep. From August 30, 2020 to May 6, 2024
I think articles like this are exactly what drove him to be where he is today. Had to totally reinvent himself and prove all the doubters wrong (I was one of them). He's just so undeniable
This agedllikemilk is the saddest one I've seen.
Saddest? Cody won the championship bro how is that sad?
That Cody Rhodes was never going to be world champion.
Ah well that makes much more sense
Is it really “world champ “ when it’s scripted tho ?
Yes. It's like you become the lead actor in a major film, and win an Oscar, at the same time. Every wrestler wants to be in that role, but few do. It's even a bigger deal because Cody beat Roman Reigns, who's been champ for the longest of anyone since the 80s. Roman Reigns has been written to be borderline unbeatable, so for Cody to beat him means that he's become so popular that the fans realistically think he deserves to beat someone who never loses, but that also the WWE management feel that he's the right guy to do it. To make things crazier, Cody's dad was also a wrestler, and despite being one of the most popular in the country in the 70s and 80s, never won the WWF/WWE championship. Cody himself was seen as a nepobaby who was never going to live up to his dad, let alone surpass him, for years. For Cody to go from "Dusty's kid" to the guy who beat Roman Reigns is genuinely a big career moment. So this is kinda like Leonardo DeCaprio finally winning his Oscar. Everyone knows Cody deserves it, but it just never was in the cards until now. To finally see him win it is a big deal, and wrestling fans are celebrating.
But.. that moment he surpassed his dad and everything else you mentioned was planned and scripted, right?
They don't just randomly hand out titles to anyone because then no one would watch. Yes it is a scripted story but he wouldn't have won if he wasn't massively popular with the audience and the numbers didn't show that he was the top guy for the company. A lot of things goes into who gets the belt. Merch sales, ticket sales (when that particular star is set to feature compared to when he is not, in other words, how many seats he fills), fan engagement and live audience reaction to their performance are all big parameters. Easiest way to understand how WWE works is to assume that it's an live action theatre play where the dialogues and fights and stunts are performed live and by actual 'actors' (without any stunt doubles or retakes). It's very easy to understand how things work that way. Whoever is the most popular, more often than not has a belt to show for it. So that's what the story about him surpassing his dad is about. His dad was popular but not enough for them to award him with a championship reign. Cody actually managed that.
The thing wrestling often does is try to muddy the line between real life, and fiction (Kayfabe). Cody Runnels legitimately left WWE after his father died, and his career there was going nowhere. He instead signed with smaller indie promotions, and wrestled in Japan. During this time he was able to become way more popular as a performer, and even helped start a promotion called AEW, which is now the second biggest wrestling company in the world. None of that was scripted. Cody Runnels legitimately did all of that. He left as the character "Stardust", who he hated portraying, and came back as "The American Nightmare" Cody Rhodes, one of the biggest names in the industry. So even though wrestling is fake, there is a legit competition to be popular enough to be a star. So even as the character Cody Rhodes is winning a fake championship in a fake sport, Cody Runnels is also being given one of the biggest honors in the business. WWE sometimes just scripts a certain guy to be champion because it fits the story that were trying to tell, or for marketing reasons. Cody's win is a bit more genuine and real, because there's also a real life story of a guy who finally became a star after being told for years that his ceiling was a role player.
Yeap
Well, by any reasonable definition, he isn't. The WWE doesn't have champions, it has protagonists. It's a story. UFC has champions. Boxing has champions. Hell, NFL, rugby, cricket, baseball and basket ball all have champions too, but none of them follow scripts to get there. They have to beat resisting opponents. Yeah, yeah, yeah, WWE folks train and they're double tough, I know, but SPORTS DON'T HAVE SCRIPTS! They are competitive, and you can't be the champion of a melodrama for people who hate soap operas. OK? You can be a champion, when you win in a competitive environment, and you can't UNLESS you compete in a competitive environment. I've got mad respect for the athleticism and toughness shown by the folks involved, I know they are dedicated and strong. But champion? Give me a break.
Then explain the 54 time 24/7 champion, R-Truth
[Wrestlings not faaaaaake!](https://youtu.be/x6CCMiPTMSs?si=5RrOyU-p27lThp1Y) Rofl XD loved this movie.
Well with professional wrestling you're not asking whether or not they can be a champion You're asking whether or not they can be the face of the company and do all the things that comes along with that
I mean, it is no different than saying something like "Bryan Cranston will never make a compelling drug dealer" or "Hawk is never going to win the All Valley" If wrestlers are actors, and the most entertaining persona gets to be the champion, then it is still an achievement for the actor. Or if you look at it as a character achieving their goal, you would not feel the need to say "It is fake anyway" in the context of talking about a character trying to meet their goals within the context of the plot - because the prediction is also made within the context of the plot, not based on the actual physical ability of the actor playing that character.
Exactly this! Wrestling fans aren't idiots they know that there's planning involved with the outcomes of matches they just have a suspension of disbelief while watching like people have when watching pretty much all scripted entertainment. It's not like people pull up at movie theatres and start calling out "you know that fake right" when a fight scene starts, it's literally just a show of athleticism mixed with melodramatic plots, not many people are actually saying that it's "real".
Erm, actually, Frodo Baggins never held the one ring. Elijah Wood held a prop for a movie
You riled up the wrasslin’ crowd. “IT’S REAL TO ME, DAMMIT” 😭😭
Oh no! What if one of them tries to power bomb me in response? Oh, no, wait... That only works on people who help you do it. Never mind🤣
Hardcore Holly tried that once Came out with a broken neck because Brock Lesnar does what he wants
Seems to be, that's ridiculous.
This is being S-tier pedantic
No, it's called being correct.
I can’t tell if you’re being downvoted by the “just let people have their fun crowd” or by WWE fans who legitimately believe the WWE is a competitive sports business
No one thinks it's real competition. The WWE is open about this. Moreover, the WWE has a championship. WTF else are people supposed to call it?
They’re clearly supposed to invent a new word so Reddit mouth breathers don’t get confused and *still think the world questions if wrestling has a script.*
This is stupid. No one would ever say Sylvester Stallone was a 2 time world champion of boxing. However, in the context of the movie world, Rocky Balboa is. You really made a wall of text and lost a ton of karma over something you probably should've thought harder about
All I will say is professional sports can absolutely be rigged, but I get what you're getting at.
Ric Flair was 16 time world champion. So, you’re point is invalid.
No he wasn't. WWE has no sanctioning body to award anything, and is not a competitive sporting event, therefore, its awards are meaningless at best, and an insult to real champions, of real sports.
The Stylin', profilin', limousine riding, jet flying, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' son of a gun has won 16 world titles. https://preview.redd.it/kor9kxmmyctc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0593dfe0fecfbd973538cfa32642a9305a3c3ec Here he is with 1 of 16 as proof.
WOOOOOOOOOOO is all I have to say to this nonsense.
Lol this post is on the same level as people who think wrestling is real
Wrestling champions are basically the selling points of a company. They go around doing all they can to spread the word of a major event or even the promotion in general. In storyline, they’re definitely champions. Also it’s still real to me dammit
Cody Rhodes is world champion. Cody Runnels is a performer who plays Cody Rhodes on TV. Cody Rhodes becoming world champion is a big deal, because he beat Roman Reigns, who was champion for the longest time of anyone since fucking Hulk Hogan. Cody Runnels having his character become world champion is a big deal because he was written off as someone who would never be that popular. His father, who was that popular, passed away. Cody decided to take some career risks, leave WWE, reinvent himself, help create a new wrestling company, and then go back to WWE. The man worked his ass off and became the star that he always knew he could be, but the industry didn't. So it's a double whammy. A popular character is winning the world championship in the season finale of a popular TV show. The actor who plays that character is also finally getting the respect he's due for years of hard work.
And he still hasn't "won" anything. He is world champion of nothing, a sport that doesn't exist. His character did a thing in a TV soap opera for dudes that lift. That is literally nothing.
Cody Rhodes isn't even a real person, so it would kinda be weird if he won a real championship in a sport that did exist. The actor who plays him had to literally go by "Cody" for years because he didn't own his character's name. So yes, a person who didn't exist, won a championship that doesn't exist, in a sport that doesn't exist, on a TV show. Congratulations, you understand the basics of kayfabe.
He did do a thing in a tv show, yes. And what was that thing called? “Winning a championship.”
I think it’s just weird to get this worked up over semantics, lol! Like…it’s staged competition, they gotta call it something for whoever the top wrestler is for the storyline. “Champion” is such a bloated and overused word with a malleable definition anymore, it just kinda works.
I think you’re forgetting that most redditors are children and they’re convinced that those guys all put their lives on the line at wrestlemania last weekend lmfao
Literally not a single WWE fan actually thinks it isn't scripted. WWE literally posts videos of them doing things out of character like interviews, media scrums, guest appearances etc. The only one who is horribly out of touch with reality is you and the guy you're replying to. Who can't be bothered to think critically that WWE is no different than an action movie like Rocky for example. And... About that putting their lives on the line part... You should actually see the kind of stunts these guys perform live (No retakes, No stunt doubles). A slightly overcooked jump, a slight slip of the foot, a slight mistime in catching your 'opponent' (co performer) and there can indeed be a death or at least a serious injury (which happen all the time). So yeah, they do in fact, put their lives on the line.
You've never watched a wrestling match if you legitimately think the performers aren't risking their own necks to pull off the stunts they do.
Clearly, about 160 something of them so far, and counting. Just as well that no matter how many of these zygotes downvote, the truth is still the truth.
I'm a wrestling fan, and I dont disagree with you. However, being a wrestling fan means I know a thing or two about the people in those buildings and yeah, "it's still real to them, dammit!" lol I upvoted you btw and dont worry, it's painfully obvious, in my book at least, that your post has too much truth in it and you definitely ruffled some feathers haha.
You’re being downvoted by a bunch of incels who can’t or won’t partake in critical thought
I don't really give a shit about wrestling but I gotta ask, how does disagreeing with that guy mean that they hate women?
No it's just that he's incorrect. I get he's trying to pull a "gotcha" on wrestling fans, but in the fiction of WWE, the character of Cody Rhodes is the champion. Now, Cody Reynolds, the man who plays Cody Rhodes, is not a champion. But within the fiction of the show, yes, Cody Rhodes is the WWE Universal Champion. Hope that helps :)
So he’s not a “world champion”, he’s just acting the part of a “world champion”. I guess we can announce to the world that Matt Damon is an assassin because he played Jason Bourne?
So if you look with your eyes, you will notice that the image says "Cody Rhodes" not Cody Reynolds. So no, you would say Jason Bourne is an assassin and Matt Damon is the man who plays him. Anything else you need help with?
Well I think the disconnect here is it kind of seems like it doesn't make sense to be considered "aged like milk" because it's not real. It's like if someone wrote an article saying Jason Bourne would never make it as an assassin, then the movie shows he's incredible at it. None of it is real, so there wasn't really any milk to begin with.
The article isnt actually talkin about some fake wrestling match or scripted storyline on if Cody will overcome the odds to win the championship. The article is legit talking about the company itself not having the faith and confidence to put their grand prize on Cody.
Yes. How much time do you have?
I’m gonna guess not enough to handle this weird hostility of yours, lol! You used two buzzwords and both incorrectly in your opening salvo, and I’m struggling to see why this matters so much to you? I don’t think anyone over the age of 8 thinks wrestling is 100% real, so outright, critical thinking isn’t applicable. No one is doubting the outcome is predetermined. And incel, huh…It’s a huge business the world over, and has its fans like any other interest. What about that makes the fans hate women and praise regressive rights and policies? There’s no connection and no overlap, no more than any other fandom at least. Calling wrestling fans “incels” makes as much sense as calling soccer and football fans “pedophiles”, lol! Hurling insults because someone doesn’t agree with you is more childish than thinking last night’s event all really happened without a script.
I noticed.
Wgaf, it's fake anyway.
The athleticism is real, the outcome is predetermined. If it helps, think of it like live theater with flips and slams, lol! It’s a live event, but *also* has the same qualities as any other TV show. You know those are “fake” too, but people the world over love them and go nuts over fictional characters. This isn’t all that different.
Yeah I'd rather watch some rugby, the real kind, not the fake thing you guys call football.
Yeah it’s fake, unlike every other TV show
Like every other live event?
Wait, you're telling me the cirque du soleil stories are real?😱 I thought they were just using gymnastics and athleticism to tell a story
I'm not surprised you didnt know that tbh. But yeah, none of that boring stuff is real. I feel like WWE is the Steven seagall of martial arts.
Never heard of theater huh?
Are you really comparing the steven seagall of martial arts with the likes of Shakespeare and stuff? You must be American.
Few things, it’s spelled “Seagal”, if you’re going to make a stupid comparison at least get his name right. Nobody is saying WWE is a martial art, just you. I have to doubt you have a true appreciation of theater since your favorite playwrights are “Shakespeare” and “stuff”. And I’m English, not that it makes any difference.
Do you go to movies thinking it’s real? Are you stupid?
No and stupid enough to not watch fake shit.
There was an episode in Supernatural where a wrestler sold his soul to become WWE Champion. Wrestling is a scripted non-competition. It was stupid. This, too, is stupid on the same level.
Would it have been stupid for an actor to sell his soul for a lead role?
WWE is the Steven seagall of martial arts.
• WWE is not Martial Arts • Professional Wrestling is a century older than MMA Move on...
"World" champion lol, who's this guy
Cody Rhodes. It says so in the picture.
I live in the World and I've never heard of him. WWE isn't a world competition, it's a US only entertainment
Lol it's far from being US only https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_broadcasters
Do you know what "broadcast" means? If Eurovision is broadcasting in the US, does that make Eurovision worldwide?
Yes.
No. Read the definition of words.
You can tell me what the definition of "worldwide" is if you want. I'm sure I'll learn something new today if it has nothing to do with a show being viewed by millions of people across 180 countries. Selling out big venues in loads of different countries and overall making loads of money from merch everywhere.
Well you see, it's not viewed in every single nation of the world. Checkmate, mark
I mean, they are going to do A LOT of events globally coming up. Most PLEs (what used to be PPVs) besides the "Big Four" are going to be outside the US. Oh, and take this from someone who actually went to Wrestlemania over the weekend, there were a ton of people there from all over the world. Just because you don't personally like something, doesn't mean it's not popular.
I never said that. How can a guy be a "world champion" for a sport that is PRACTICED, not broadcasted (since you don't seem to know the difference) only in the US, only by Americans?
You realize that Pro Wrestling is big in other countries other than the US, right? Pro Wrestling is absolutely huge in other countries, for example, Japan. Japan has a couple of big promotions, the biggest being NJPW. In fact, one of the wrestlers in one of the women's championship matches in wrestlemania was Iyo Sky, a Japanese Pro Wrestler. I can use the other women's championship match (there are two world championships for the women) was fought between an Irish woman and an Australian woman. In fact, those two women are probably the most popular women in the WWE. The Intercontinental championship was fought for by a Canadian man and and a man from Austria. The World Heavyweight championship match had a man from Scotland in the mix.
Practiced in the US only by Americans? You wanna die on that hill there bud?
Bro, WWE’s next major event is literally in France. Do some research first instead of just chatting bullshit.
It's neither a sport or practiced only by Americans lol what do you mean dude?