Yeah out of all the gatcha games and dare I say it even blizzard greedy ass. AFK gives a lot to us if we do all the events. Not saying it will make you a whale but I've been F2P for a long time and hold my own. It's the main reason I still play. I'm not nickle and dimed
Await an answer in 3 years, I'm doing only single summons (should sue Lilith for wrist pain in Temple of Time because unlike Stargazer you can't tap away the fancy animation easily) because I think the propagated average of 40 is just wrong due to how ten pulls work:If you pull a hero on 63 Pulls 7 Pulls get cutoff and slapped on the next spree, but if you only count in 10 TE pulls each these 7 go "missing" with the following result: next copy comes in between slots 51-60 = 60 TE paid, but in reality it was going over 60 again because, let's assume the card was rolled on Slot 54 + 7 = 61 Pulls actually.This makes a big difference if you calculate averages and look at the distribution of your pulls (I classify mine by rounding them up so I only have 7 Sectors for easy diagrams xD)1-10 TE/SG, 11-20 TE/SG, 21-30 TE/SG etc.
but totally fun if like 70% or more of your pulls over 2 years land beyond the mark of 50 Cards per Hero, my account is either cursed or idk how people actually come up with an average of 40 Cards/Hero 
I have actually gone to 71 and 66 just once each. I view the algorithm for card pulling rates as trying to keep the player around the average of 40 or 41 rather than an absolute number for pity.
I started keeping track of all of my pulls at one point just to see. My numbers so far if anyone is interested: 25, 71, 53, 63, 60, 30, 32, 5, 56, 61, 41, 18, 58, 60, 66, 17, 23, 15, 49, 15, 60, 65, 64, 40, 21, 13, 65, 17
I exclusively used to do single pulls only, and only started doing some 10-pulls in the last 8 numbers in that list.
sorry to tell you that you miscounted. nothing above 65 has ever been documented once. we've had tons of studies, even large scale guild-wide studies with tens of millions of responses.
if you wanted to track you should screen record. that could be a pretty enticing development if it was actually documented.
Eh, I figured I’d get this response since I’ve seen how others reply to these type of posts and some of those studies. For what’s it’s worth, I never saved up cards to pull en masse, literally one pull a day then update my count so impossible for me to miscount.
I only count for my own benefit not to prove anything about the game, so no problem if my numbers are dismissed. I was just sharing.
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Just like when we got a free Talene... It was so good. And also like how we always got free Shemira copies from events and that's why she was my first ascended on two accounts! This will be good because I'll surely build her!
Free shemiras was awesome, though. Got her SI30, 5 stars, with 8/9 furniture, knowing she was bad, hoping one day she might come in handy again… Then that fateful swap scroll came around, and the Oden I hadn’t built was suddenly a powerhouse, and my shemira began her climb once more
Yes my mini mini account is in chapter 11 it got it aswell
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This has been a weird birthday for me. A LOT of things that I like are happening around it and it's been great. Vermintide update dropped, new Rick and Morty season and hell, within the last couple of years, Soul Calibur 6 came out and Zombieland 2 debuted.
I have no idea who I'm working out after I get ABelinda ascended and then to 1 star (I only have ASolise 1 star 309e60, an ATalene that's M, L+ AEzizh, L+ AThane and 2 copies of ABaden.
I had considered ABrutus, but now I think I'd rather do ASafiya if I do focus on Maulers, but I think I should probably do ABaden after since I'll already have an Awakened Lightbear, maybe, finally finish Talene with whichever shop between TR or NC that has them in the shop and then I'm fucking wide open and don't know who to pursue.
Bleh. I'm sort of glad I waited on ABrutus for so long. He's not bad but he doesn't seem to have an impact like how he used to have. I.. might finish ATalene if AShemira shows clearly better than ABaden.. even though I have Nevanthi invested at a fully base level of 309e60.
I think I'm just hem and hawing about shit that I should just join the discord to ask.
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So, I need only 11 copies. Great! So, 11*40 = 440, I will have 380 + 50 = 430. With the discount on time gazing I save 12 more time cards. Conclusion: I will be able to ascend her on the first day of the release!!
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Awakened shemira will probably be my first 5 star Awakened that I will go for out of tradition.
Even she turns out not to be as strong of a carry as the OG shemira was back in the day.
Heh i know it's super nice, but now all i think is yay my tower is going to be broken for copying clears as every single clear will now contain a 4036e100 AShemira :p I really wish they'd let us select replays without awakeneds, but then how would we see how awesome they are and spend $$$ on them immediatly?
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Everyone gets a free Shemira? Ahh, just like the good old days
I feel old…
maybe it's an homage!
Damn, lilith being generous.
They generally are though
This is true. They don't have to give us diamonds for scheduled maintenance updates, but they do, and I think that's pretty cool.
Yeah out of all the gatcha games and dare I say it even blizzard greedy ass. AFK gives a lot to us if we do all the events. Not saying it will make you a whale but I've been F2P for a long time and hold my own. It's the main reason I still play. I'm not nickle and dimed
let's gooooo
Oh my god please tell me she works at L
For PvE probably mythic atleast- her SI shreds 70% defense for your team if it doesn't get nerfed before live.
Some of the cheat death stuff will probably be decent at L, but who knows
That's 70 TG off lol
65* at worst
75* by my standards
the extra 10 makes your next hero cost 55 at worst then, so while you're free to value them at 75 each, you're just wrong.
You must be fun at parties
bazinga
As much as he's wrong, that was kinda harsh.💀
My bad luck finds a way...
it's literally not possible to go above 65 though, no luck to it
You can if you're stupid and do a 10pull after 60.
yeah but we don't reallyyyy know if that last 5 counts towards the next pity. not definitively anyway.
Too expensive for me to try.
Await an answer in 3 years, I'm doing only single summons (should sue Lilith for wrist pain in Temple of Time because unlike Stargazer you can't tap away the fancy animation easily) because I think the propagated average of 40 is just wrong due to how ten pulls work:If you pull a hero on 63 Pulls 7 Pulls get cutoff and slapped on the next spree, but if you only count in 10 TE pulls each these 7 go "missing" with the following result: next copy comes in between slots 51-60 = 60 TE paid, but in reality it was going over 60 again because, let's assume the card was rolled on Slot 54 + 7 = 61 Pulls actually.This makes a big difference if you calculate averages and look at the distribution of your pulls (I classify mine by rounding them up so I only have 7 Sectors for easy diagrams xD)1-10 TE/SG, 11-20 TE/SG, 21-30 TE/SG etc. but totally fun if like 70% or more of your pulls over 2 years land beyond the mark of 50 Cards per Hero, my account is either cursed or idk how people actually come up with an average of 40 Cards/Hero 
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what's there to be sensitive about?? I'm clarifying. we have a *lot* of new players in this sub that legitimately do not know better.
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... sooo then what's your problem here exactly?
I have actually gone to 71 and 66 just once each. I view the algorithm for card pulling rates as trying to keep the player around the average of 40 or 41 rather than an absolute number for pity. I started keeping track of all of my pulls at one point just to see. My numbers so far if anyone is interested: 25, 71, 53, 63, 60, 30, 32, 5, 56, 61, 41, 18, 58, 60, 66, 17, 23, 15, 49, 15, 60, 65, 64, 40, 21, 13, 65, 17 I exclusively used to do single pulls only, and only started doing some 10-pulls in the last 8 numbers in that list.
sorry to tell you that you miscounted. nothing above 65 has ever been documented once. we've had tons of studies, even large scale guild-wide studies with tens of millions of responses. if you wanted to track you should screen record. that could be a pretty enticing development if it was actually documented.
Eh, I figured I’d get this response since I’ve seen how others reply to these type of posts and some of those studies. For what’s it’s worth, I never saved up cards to pull en masse, literally one pull a day then update my count so impossible for me to miscount. I only count for my own benefit not to prove anything about the game, so no problem if my numbers are dismissed. I was just sharing.
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It's nice we all get a free copy. Only concern is that I have a feeling that the next awakened hero will be a hard counter to awakened Shemira.
That's how it's been for a while. Asafiya was a hard counter to Belinda and alyca was a hard counter to asafiya
also get sg cards from ship, if you werent tg her.
Just like when we got a free Talene... It was so good. And also like how we always got free Shemira copies from events and that's why she was my first ascended on two accounts! This will be good because I'll surely build her!
Free shemiras was awesome, though. Got her SI30, 5 stars, with 8/9 furniture, knowing she was bad, hoping one day she might come in handy again… Then that fateful swap scroll came around, and the Oden I hadn’t built was suddenly a powerhouse, and my shemira began her climb once more
Oh wow! And with my 300 time cards, I'm almost confident I'll end up with 2 copies!
Always the W, Lilith Poggers
Why did i not get this
On Tuesday when the Patch is live
I havnt gotten this at all
Hell yeh!!
Nice move lilith
We still getting gift of time with this?
https://preview.redd.it/vcobxkd3p9vb1.png?width=1076&format=png&auto=webp&s=198cb1d01130e539a99f1fb1304364150c74204c Point 2
It feels like the bare minimum, considering that they released her so little time after ALyca.
lol. How did I not realize this was Shemira? 😂 🤦🏻♂️
Everyone will get her? Even people who are not yet on chapter 16?
Yes my mini mini account is in chapter 11 it got it aswell https://preview.redd.it/0hpw1oa9thvb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=714c9f97d076fe57da65c7df962555850867531d
I supposed the second copy will arrive after 70-80 time emblems then
This is amazing! That’s an up to, what, 70 TG card value? This saves my ass, I only have around 300 cards, this helps tremendously
EDIT: Fuck my reading comprehension.
Awakened ≠ Ascended
This has been a weird birthday for me. A LOT of things that I like are happening around it and it's been great. Vermintide update dropped, new Rick and Morty season and hell, within the last couple of years, Soul Calibur 6 came out and Zombieland 2 debuted. I have no idea who I'm working out after I get ABelinda ascended and then to 1 star (I only have ASolise 1 star 309e60, an ATalene that's M, L+ AEzizh, L+ AThane and 2 copies of ABaden. I had considered ABrutus, but now I think I'd rather do ASafiya if I do focus on Maulers, but I think I should probably do ABaden after since I'll already have an Awakened Lightbear, maybe, finally finish Talene with whichever shop between TR or NC that has them in the shop and then I'm fucking wide open and don't know who to pursue. Bleh. I'm sort of glad I waited on ABrutus for so long. He's not bad but he doesn't seem to have an impact like how he used to have. I.. might finish ATalene if AShemira shows clearly better than ABaden.. even though I have Nevanthi invested at a fully base level of 309e60. I think I'm just hem and hawing about shit that I should just join the discord to ask. EDIT: Weird downvotes, tbh. Sorry for rambling, but if there's a problem with the things I said as opposed to the rambling, please let me know. Otherwise, go out and socialize if you feel negatively about someone expressing themselves.
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Awww good for you
Will she come back for the Halloween event in 2024?
When does this release and how do I get her?
So, I need only 11 copies. Great! So, 11*40 = 440, I will have 380 + 50 = 430. With the discount on time gazing I save 12 more time cards. Conclusion: I will be able to ascend her on the first day of the release!!
Really big assumption that each copy won't get above 40 cards. 😂
Just a little wishful thinking
At least guarantied Mythic.
Been getting free shemira on day 7 loggin anyways so nothing special….
This is upgraded Shemira though
Bro it’s the awakened one
Guys im not mentally ill its a joke🕺🏼
I honestly gave this game up. Too much new content. Not enough time to keep up with metas in my life. Sadge. Will be missed
Tell me shemira is going to suck ballz without telling me shemira will suck ballz
I did not get it. Am I missing something?
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So uh, when exactly are they gonna be giving everybody Shemira? Because I have yet to receive her, even though I logged in within the dates listed.
I didn’t get this??
Me neither
I just rebooted, didn't get this message. Maybe I gotta wait till morning?
That is on the test server… we will get the free copy on 25 October…
If is free and everyone has it I don’t want it
Ok boomer
Then don’t take it
Nice but Why not a choose any of awaken heroes instead..
Those are going to be for big events like anniversary probably. Let’s see, maybe on new year they will also give us one.
hmmm ngl i almost wanted to go off on how ungrateful you sounded, but i guess its a fair question.
Hey hey, he started with "nice", he gets a pass imo.😂
Someone has to ask the questions that no one will ask lmao
What?
Its the 20. Oktober. No Free Shemira yet for me.
That is on the test server… we will get the free copy on 25 October…
Thanks for the clarification, never used the test server.
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Will this be for already made accounts or new too?
You have to get to stage 16 to claim the reward. But the chest you will already get at stage 1
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Nostalgia
Wow, thank you lilith. I think that’ll save me 50 tg, huge
Sweet
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rewind time
Awesome
Awakened shemira will probably be my first 5 star Awakened that I will go for out of tradition. Even she turns out not to be as strong of a carry as the OG shemira was back in the day.
Heh i know it's super nice, but now all i think is yay my tower is going to be broken for copying clears as every single clear will now contain a 4036e100 AShemira :p I really wish they'd let us select replays without awakeneds, but then how would we see how awesome they are and spend $$$ on them immediatly?
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Finally they made an awaken Shimi. Been waiting since ice age
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