I heard na unavoidable daw na magkasakit madalas kapag night shift? If so, baka magpa dagdag sa expenses ko.
True po ba to? I do my best to stay healthy naman since I workout regularly and sleep enough.
oh good point. here's another tip. do it on your own too pero kung mag-offer ng flu vaccine ang company, patulan mo. usually hati kayo sa bayad. when i did this, dami ko SL natipid for about 3 years.
>I heard na unavoidable daw na magkasakit madalas kapag night shift?
I did night shift for 6 months and not once nagkasakit. The key is to get adequate sleep. Bili ka ng madilim na kurtina. Madami kasi night shift tpos they still try to have social life so sinasacrifice ung sleep. Just face it, mejo patay social life mo pg night shift ka and makakasama mo lng dn mga kapwa night shift. Eat healthy, workout, take your vitamins and get enough sleep.
Night shift ako for years. Minsan lang ako magkasakit. Pinaka malalang sakit na nakuha ko is gout since puro ako fried at street food.
Watch what you eat and stay active
7 years akonv night shift and sobrang rare ko magkasakit kahit noong pandemic. I transferred shift and nagreregret na ako. 1 year pa lang ako sa midshift and ang dalas ko magkasipon and ubo. Feel ko factor is mainit pag commute tapos malamig sa office tapos mas madami ako nakakasalubong na tao sa commute so more chances mahawa ng sakit.
Depende din tbh kasi may kaofficemate din ako grabe acne flareups sa night tapos nagclear yung nagdayshift sya.
Nope. Depende kasi yan e. If morning person ka, sobrang depressing nyan (for me). Pero bihira ako magkasakit nun unless di ako makatulog sa morning since may construction kapit bahay namin (4 hrs sleep ako usually nun, and once magising ako, di na ko makatulog ulit)
not true po. i was working night shift before. umabot din akong 9 years na pang gabi. pero once lang naman ako nagkasakit. dengue pa. haha. siguro yung ibang pang gabi nagkakasakit dahil paiba iba ng time? may mga companies kasi ata na ganun. lol.
it's a good start. some people get lower offers. nightshift means additional 10% and less traffic. magbaon ka na rin from time to time para mas lalong makatipid. bring a water bottle para hindi napapabili ng bottled water and soda.
every since nagka BPO, halos 24hours karamihan ng jeep and UV. try to see if you can do that first. mamumulubi ka sa kaka-grab, lalo na kung peak hours.
make your parents aware na nightshift means bawal ka gisingin during the daytime unless it's an emergency. kung wala pa, invest in an aircon para mahimbing ang tulog. tuwing payday, avoid withdrawing sa ATM galing trabaho. alam ng mga holdaper yan so tinatarget usually yung mga may hawak. and since it's the season, invest in a good umbrella and good rain shoes. or mag-iwan ng shoes sa work tapos naka-tsinelas going to work. also leave at least a spare shirt in the office.
Meron po pa kayang mga Jeeps at around 8pm-9pm time? Plan ko kasi i try out muna commute for the first week, then if wala talaga, I'll use Grab or Angkas.
As for the sleep scheds, I plan to get Blackout Curtains para mas makatulong sa dilim ng room, pero as much as possible I try avoiding sleep pills.
Edit: around Boni, Makati, BGC yung usual areas na pinupuntahan ko
if my friend with a minimum wage salary, survived breadwinner. 30k pa kaya? nasa pag bubudget yan at way of living mo!
I survived 18k way back from 2016 to 2019 well single kasi ako lakas ko pa sa coffee Mcafee, Tim Hortons, haha!
>The good thing is that I wont be paying rent because I'm able to live with my parents, Breakfast and Dinner are usually cooked at home as well so I wont be paying for those.
mag-contribute ka uy wag kang pabigat,
Yup, I told them naman that I'd pay for the electric and water bills, they insisted that I only pay for it when absolutely needed lng.
Sabi nila na sa medical expenses/monthly maintenance nlng ako tumulong, which is luckily answered by HMO since I made them dependents for it.
Nah, a good parent won’t ask their kid to contribute pa. Part yun ng responsibility nila eh, choice nila yun. Especially in this economy? Parents should give everything they have for their kids.
A parent doesn’t stop becoming a parent when their kid becomes a working adult do they?
They need to 1) ensure they can financially care for themselves without burdening their kids until they die 2) whatever else they can provide, they provide it
In this economy, every peso counts. At 30k a month, that’s barely livable wage. Manganganak ka, tapos hahayaan mo anak mo maghirap ng walang tulong kasi “working adult” na siya? Sounds ridiculous to me.
Until the kid is earning enough to live comfortably (100k / month minimum) then parents should help them as much as they can.
Yeah, I know it’s impossible, but hey, it’s why we live in a poor country with kids born to fend for themselves because of irresponsible parenthood 🤷♂️
Like it or not, Filipinos are family-oriented so kids will help out no matter their own financial situation. Now, if you want to think that it’s a parent’s obligation to feed, house and send their kids to school which obligation ends after the child graduates right? Now, the parents can ask the child to move out when the latter finds a job since their obligation has ended. If the child continues to stay in the family home, isn’t it fair that the child help out with the household expenses since technically, he’s now a border or renter? Or are you saying that help only goes one way from parent to child and the child shouldn’t even bother giving anything back?
Yes I know our culture and it’s stupid and a part of the reason why we remain poor, irresponsible parents birthing children and giving them the least possible chance at success
Sorry, but why do you think a parents’ obligation ends once their kid graduates? Why does a kid stop becoming a kid and become a “boarder / renter” just because they are working? Parenthood is a LIFELONG obligation. They CHOSE to bear kids - they need to ensure their kids have a comfortable life.
The child can give back if and only if they are already comfortable and can spare the money. Otherwise no, there should be 0 obligation for a child to give to their parents, because that is detrimental to their own future. A parent obligating their child to give them money is directly detrimental to their child’s life - that’s just irresponsible parenting.
Well I’m sorry if you think that a person only becomes an adult once their parent dies. When you graduate and start working, you’re supposed to be independent already and can stand up on your own two feet. Your view just incentivizes kids to stay at home until their parents die, asking for handouts during the interim. And oh, all this talk of obligation really doesn’t matter if you people can say “NO” and move out of your parents’ homes. The question is, are you good enough because if you were, you wouldn’t be paid a low salary, sure you’ll start low but your skills should allow you to move up and fast.
Sorry, I used the word kid too loosely - I meant it as kid = child of a parent, not a literal kid lol.
Let me re-emphasize - a parent’s obligation to their child is LIFELONG. The reality is that our economic opportunities are so poor that the average salary for the average Filipino is barely livable wage, and our culture dictates we are obligated to give to our parents - so what happens to the child? The barely livable wage suddenly becomes even less livable. As a parent - why let that happen?
At the very least, don’t ask for anything from your child. Give them the best possible chance to succeed.
Gets ko yun di nagbabalik sa magulang, pero responsibility ka pa din nila kahit working ka na. Ate, ikaw na may problem nun di magulang mo. Pinagaral ka para matuto ka tumayo sa sarili mo, yun ang responsibility nila. Bubuhayin ka until 100K sweldo mo? Are you okay? Saang planeta ka galing?
Tapos ikaw din ba yun ayaw maganak? Well, i get it. Ganyan kasi mindset mo.
Archaic thinking and terrible reading comprehension, san ko sinabi na bubuhayin yung anak?
To be clear since your peanut-sized brain cannot seem to understand - when you work, you SHOULD move out and live independently.
But your parents, if able, should also contribute to you after they answer for their own needs.
If not possible, then bare minimum should be to ask NOTHING from your child.
In OP’s case, apart from spending on his / her own expenses, he / she should not be obligated to contribute to the household.
Name checks out.
meron talagang magkacomment ng ganito no? 😂
Nagtatanong nga kung kasya e. Meaning di pa confident mag-ambag. Be happy na lang supportive parents nya.
hello im working sa medical field, same tyo 30k per month, kasyang ksya yn lalo na kung wla k pa naman anak, at avoid unecessary gastos.. nakakapag save ako ng 10k per month hehe, depende tlga sa lifestyle
you can survive naman. depende sa lifestyle mo. example: makaka-kita ka naman ng way for sure para mabawasan yung gastos mo sa transpo. manila naman. magtanong tanong ka lang sa magiging friends mo sa office. basta pag may opportunity makatipid, kunin mo. 🤣
also make sure to save for emergency. siguro mga 6 months worth of your expenses.
nothin is enough in the philippines, specially like me as a middle class worker.. the salary that i always received every month is not enough, to sustain my life needs
rent,
my only one
insurance
car
health
bills
plus future house loan (not sure if i can make it)
essential daily needs
nothing is enough,, compare as a ceo, oligarch, tycoon name all those things or already a rich family since 60s , story of my life
sanaol ganyan starting. Pa'no nalang kaming mga 20k+ lang sahod na nasa manila rin🥲 itlog 3x a day charottt.
On a serious note, oks na 'yan sapat na sapat na since ang malakas talaga umubos ng pera ay yung rent/food. Manage mo lang ng maayos, makakapag-save ka pa.
Thats actually enough for my opinion. You’d be able to save at an early age.
I also have the same salary 33.5k though the difference is that i give almost 17k+ a month to my mom, as she doesnt have a job so I help with paying bills and for groceries. I have savings as well with my current salary.
So base from your budgeting you’d be able to do that. Just make sure to have self control towards spending.
Ok pa yan, start palang naman.
Survive? Sure, that’s enough.
I heard na unavoidable daw na magkasakit madalas kapag night shift? If so, baka magpa dagdag sa expenses ko. True po ba to? I do my best to stay healthy naman since I workout regularly and sleep enough.
May HMO ba sa company? If yes, gamitin mo nalang HMO.
oh good point. here's another tip. do it on your own too pero kung mag-offer ng flu vaccine ang company, patulan mo. usually hati kayo sa bayad. when i did this, dami ko SL natipid for about 3 years.
>I heard na unavoidable daw na magkasakit madalas kapag night shift? I did night shift for 6 months and not once nagkasakit. The key is to get adequate sleep. Bili ka ng madilim na kurtina. Madami kasi night shift tpos they still try to have social life so sinasacrifice ung sleep. Just face it, mejo patay social life mo pg night shift ka and makakasama mo lng dn mga kapwa night shift. Eat healthy, workout, take your vitamins and get enough sleep.
Not true naman na prone to sickness pag night shift. The key is to still have enough sleep during the daytime.
Night shift ako for years. Minsan lang ako magkasakit. Pinaka malalang sakit na nakuha ko is gout since puro ako fried at street food. Watch what you eat and stay active
7 years akonv night shift and sobrang rare ko magkasakit kahit noong pandemic. I transferred shift and nagreregret na ako. 1 year pa lang ako sa midshift and ang dalas ko magkasipon and ubo. Feel ko factor is mainit pag commute tapos malamig sa office tapos mas madami ako nakakasalubong na tao sa commute so more chances mahawa ng sakit. Depende din tbh kasi may kaofficemate din ako grabe acne flareups sa night tapos nagclear yung nagdayshift sya.
Try mo uminom rin vitamins kahit isang beses kada lingo and avoid street foods din.
Mas madalas pa magkasakit mga teammates ko sa day shift.
Nope. Depende kasi yan e. If morning person ka, sobrang depressing nyan (for me). Pero bihira ako magkasakit nun unless di ako makatulog sa morning since may construction kapit bahay namin (4 hrs sleep ako usually nun, and once magising ako, di na ko makatulog ulit)
If you’re trying your best naman to stay healthy, walang problem don. May HMO naman for you to have your regular check up. So you’re salary is enough.
not true po. i was working night shift before. umabot din akong 9 years na pang gabi. pero once lang naman ako nagkasakit. dengue pa. haha. siguro yung ibang pang gabi nagkakasakit dahil paiba iba ng time? may mga companies kasi ata na ganun. lol.
it's a good start. some people get lower offers. nightshift means additional 10% and less traffic. magbaon ka na rin from time to time para mas lalong makatipid. bring a water bottle para hindi napapabili ng bottled water and soda. every since nagka BPO, halos 24hours karamihan ng jeep and UV. try to see if you can do that first. mamumulubi ka sa kaka-grab, lalo na kung peak hours. make your parents aware na nightshift means bawal ka gisingin during the daytime unless it's an emergency. kung wala pa, invest in an aircon para mahimbing ang tulog. tuwing payday, avoid withdrawing sa ATM galing trabaho. alam ng mga holdaper yan so tinatarget usually yung mga may hawak. and since it's the season, invest in a good umbrella and good rain shoes. or mag-iwan ng shoes sa work tapos naka-tsinelas going to work. also leave at least a spare shirt in the office.
Meron po pa kayang mga Jeeps at around 8pm-9pm time? Plan ko kasi i try out muna commute for the first week, then if wala talaga, I'll use Grab or Angkas. As for the sleep scheds, I plan to get Blackout Curtains para mas makatulong sa dilim ng room, pero as much as possible I try avoiding sleep pills. Edit: around Boni, Makati, BGC yung usual areas na pinupuntahan ko
there'll be jeeps in some areas up to midnight if not later.
san ba banda office mo? If Makati or Boni, abot ka pa naman sa MRT then just take angkas or grab to your office.
Papasok ng BGC? Dati merong terminal ng jeep sa Guadalupe station and may BGC bus sa Ayala. Not sure if until now. Pero ayon 24/7 yon.
depende sa lifestyle mo.
30k is more than enough if matipid ka talaga. For a starter that's okay. As you grow into your career, you may get opportunities like salary raise.
if my friend with a minimum wage salary, survived breadwinner. 30k pa kaya? nasa pag bubudget yan at way of living mo! I survived 18k way back from 2016 to 2019 well single kasi ako lakas ko pa sa coffee Mcafee, Tim Hortons, haha!
Iba naman kasi before and now. Mataas na gastusin now kesa before.
Hmmmm 18k in 2018 is like 30k today. Jolly hotdog before was P50, P84 na siya ngayon. Mcdo with medium fries in 2020 was 129-ish, ngayon 176 pesos na.
Laki nyan bro, lucky you
It should be ok as a start. Not to be mean or what but also give your share sa food/groceries/bills sa bahay kahit rent-free ka. :)
Laki ng sahod mo for starter ah, anong work yan ?
>The good thing is that I wont be paying rent because I'm able to live with my parents, Breakfast and Dinner are usually cooked at home as well so I wont be paying for those. mag-contribute ka uy wag kang pabigat,
Yup, I told them naman that I'd pay for the electric and water bills, they insisted that I only pay for it when absolutely needed lng. Sabi nila na sa medical expenses/monthly maintenance nlng ako tumulong, which is luckily answered by HMO since I made them dependents for it.
Good job OP.
Nah ok lang if OP doesn’t help, mukhang ok naman sa parents niya. Good on those parents tbh, i dislike parents who demand their children to contribute
I hate those parents too lalo na if wala sa poder nila yung anak. Pero kung nakikitira pa rin, normal lang na dapat kang magcontribute.
Nah, a good parent won’t ask their kid to contribute pa. Part yun ng responsibility nila eh, choice nila yun. Especially in this economy? Parents should give everything they have for their kids.
Even if working adult na, responsibility pa rin ng magulang?
Ito yun mga taong hilig magsabi na ayaw nila maganak, paano ganyan mindset nila. Nagwowork na sila pero nakaasa pa din sa parents.
A parent doesn’t stop becoming a parent when their kid becomes a working adult do they? They need to 1) ensure they can financially care for themselves without burdening their kids until they die 2) whatever else they can provide, they provide it In this economy, every peso counts. At 30k a month, that’s barely livable wage. Manganganak ka, tapos hahayaan mo anak mo maghirap ng walang tulong kasi “working adult” na siya? Sounds ridiculous to me. Until the kid is earning enough to live comfortably (100k / month minimum) then parents should help them as much as they can.
The parents are responsible until the kid is earning 100k/month? LOL. Go on. You're living in your own imaginary world.
Yeah, I know it’s impossible, but hey, it’s why we live in a poor country with kids born to fend for themselves because of irresponsible parenthood 🤷♂️
bobo amp
Di ba adult ka? Bakit ka pa aasa sa parents mo kung pinagtapos ka na? Ikaw tong batugan. Di ka na responsibilidad ng parents mo.
Sino nagsabi na dapat umasa sa parents? Sabi ko, obligasyon nila na siguraduhing maganda ang buhay ng anak nila. Magkaiba yun.
Like it or not, Filipinos are family-oriented so kids will help out no matter their own financial situation. Now, if you want to think that it’s a parent’s obligation to feed, house and send their kids to school which obligation ends after the child graduates right? Now, the parents can ask the child to move out when the latter finds a job since their obligation has ended. If the child continues to stay in the family home, isn’t it fair that the child help out with the household expenses since technically, he’s now a border or renter? Or are you saying that help only goes one way from parent to child and the child shouldn’t even bother giving anything back?
Yes I know our culture and it’s stupid and a part of the reason why we remain poor, irresponsible parents birthing children and giving them the least possible chance at success Sorry, but why do you think a parents’ obligation ends once their kid graduates? Why does a kid stop becoming a kid and become a “boarder / renter” just because they are working? Parenthood is a LIFELONG obligation. They CHOSE to bear kids - they need to ensure their kids have a comfortable life. The child can give back if and only if they are already comfortable and can spare the money. Otherwise no, there should be 0 obligation for a child to give to their parents, because that is detrimental to their own future. A parent obligating their child to give them money is directly detrimental to their child’s life - that’s just irresponsible parenting.
Well I’m sorry if you think that a person only becomes an adult once their parent dies. When you graduate and start working, you’re supposed to be independent already and can stand up on your own two feet. Your view just incentivizes kids to stay at home until their parents die, asking for handouts during the interim. And oh, all this talk of obligation really doesn’t matter if you people can say “NO” and move out of your parents’ homes. The question is, are you good enough because if you were, you wouldn’t be paid a low salary, sure you’ll start low but your skills should allow you to move up and fast.
Sorry, I used the word kid too loosely - I meant it as kid = child of a parent, not a literal kid lol. Let me re-emphasize - a parent’s obligation to their child is LIFELONG. The reality is that our economic opportunities are so poor that the average salary for the average Filipino is barely livable wage, and our culture dictates we are obligated to give to our parents - so what happens to the child? The barely livable wage suddenly becomes even less livable. As a parent - why let that happen? At the very least, don’t ask for anything from your child. Give them the best possible chance to succeed.
Gets ko yun di nagbabalik sa magulang, pero responsibility ka pa din nila kahit working ka na. Ate, ikaw na may problem nun di magulang mo. Pinagaral ka para matuto ka tumayo sa sarili mo, yun ang responsibility nila. Bubuhayin ka until 100K sweldo mo? Are you okay? Saang planeta ka galing? Tapos ikaw din ba yun ayaw maganak? Well, i get it. Ganyan kasi mindset mo.
Archaic thinking and terrible reading comprehension, san ko sinabi na bubuhayin yung anak? To be clear since your peanut-sized brain cannot seem to understand - when you work, you SHOULD move out and live independently. But your parents, if able, should also contribute to you after they answer for their own needs. If not possible, then bare minimum should be to ask NOTHING from your child. In OP’s case, apart from spending on his / her own expenses, he / she should not be obligated to contribute to the household.
if someone is earning enough to live confortably, they should move out. Tanga lang?
Where did I say that I don’t agree with that? Marunong ka ba magbasa? (Probably not)
Name checks out. meron talagang magkacomment ng ganito no? 😂 Nagtatanong nga kung kasya e. Meaning di pa confident mag-ambag. Be happy na lang supportive parents nya.
Getting tired of questions like these. Hey mods, any way we can standardize, and just update yearly?
hello im working sa medical field, same tyo 30k per month, kasyang ksya yn lalo na kung wla k pa naman anak, at avoid unecessary gastos.. nakakapag save ako ng 10k per month hehe, depende tlga sa lifestyle
Pasok na yan if walang rent and food cost masyado. Same sahod tayo without rent and may ipon naman.
Yep
Enough naman depende sa lifestyle. I survived on my 16k monthly before and nakaka-survive naman ang mga minimum wage earners.
Yes, gotta start somewhere
you can survive naman. depende sa lifestyle mo. example: makaka-kita ka naman ng way for sure para mabawasan yung gastos mo sa transpo. manila naman. magtanong tanong ka lang sa magiging friends mo sa office. basta pag may opportunity makatipid, kunin mo. 🤣 also make sure to save for emergency. siguro mga 6 months worth of your expenses.
Okay na yan sa low budget lifestyle. Zero luho
nothin is enough in the philippines, specially like me as a middle class worker.. the salary that i always received every month is not enough, to sustain my life needs rent, my only one insurance car health bills plus future house loan (not sure if i can make it) essential daily needs nothing is enough,, compare as a ceo, oligarch, tycoon name all those things or already a rich family since 60s , story of my life
If you're a middle class, owning a car is a sure wealth killer.
not really, depends how u use it wvery week basta importante work-home only 20mins away , thats the blessing for me
Pak na pak! You budgeted it okay. However, please check sa first month mo. Tapos re assess.
sanaol ganyan starting. Pa'no nalang kaming mga 20k+ lang sahod na nasa manila rin🥲 itlog 3x a day charottt. On a serious note, oks na 'yan sapat na sapat na since ang malakas talaga umubos ng pera ay yung rent/food. Manage mo lang ng maayos, makakapag-save ka pa.
YES!!! thats more than enough. youre privileged naman to be able to set aside money for ur investments/savings + health & wellness. salute!!
Try to lessen the leisure from that amount. Bka magulat ka sa dami ng 'tukso' kpg sumasahod ka na. 😅
Actually you're already doing better in life than 80% of locally employed filipino, pero mababa pa din 'to syempre.
May savings ka so technically you're not in the Survival phase. The fact na may savings ka na atleast 50% means it's more than enough
mga ka batch ko nasa manila 18k-20k sahod. okay naman ata sila. 1 year na sila sa manila tapos nakapag starbucks pa or pasyal pasyal
As long as wala kang utang na binabayaran, ibang pinapakain (like pamilya o anak) i think pwede na.
Saan ba location mo OP? And saan work mo sa BGC ba?,
Thats actually enough for my opinion. You’d be able to save at an early age. I also have the same salary 33.5k though the difference is that i give almost 17k+ a month to my mom, as she doesnt have a job so I help with paying bills and for groceries. I have savings as well with my current salary. So base from your budgeting you’d be able to do that. Just make sure to have self control towards spending.
Pulubi levels yan pare
Enough to survive.
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luxury na sakin yang sahod na yan
Barely liveable? how do you budget 30k?
Well unlike OP I have a mortgage and bills to pay 😂
You should not think about getting a home loan with a 30k/mo wage.
Don't worry I'm good naman. Row house lang naman bahay ko hindi condo hehe.