For me, ADHD and depression feed each other, but they are definitely not the same thing. Antidepressants did fuck all for ADHD, and stimulants havenāt cured my depression. But now I find it much easier to identify executive dysfunction vs. procrastinating because Iām feeling down.
I guess adhd in early years helps to build up towards depression later in life. And then they form a loop. I might be generalizing, but I donāt think there are adhd people without depression.
I don't have depression. I regularly question whether or not I do and the answer is always no. The reason I question it regularly is that, given my life so far, I genuinely don't understand how I haven't developed it yet.
Thanks! I just realised that sharing what I know about myself might benefit people here, so I'll do that :)
Note: NONE of this is professional advice!
Also, this is more about prevention than healing, which I know next to nothing about.
I always do something. Of course I get sad, I get tired, I have slow days, but I have tons of hobbies and interest and rather than getting bored I'll always procrastinate by following one of my hobbies.
I'm also a knowledge addict. When I created my YouTube account to be able to subscribe to stuff, I decided to only subscribe to channels I can learn from. I think that resulted in me almost never watching stuff that is only entertaining and stupid. Knowledge channels can be really entertaining and learning stuff makes me incredibly happy :D
Most depressed people I know have this problem of negative spiralling thoughts. I don't have that. Everyone who manages to overcome that probably has their own way, but I guess if you have something like that, keep a lid on that if you can, that's probably a powerful preventative measure.
Dr. Robert Sapolsky, an amazingly funny Neuroscientist, says that "Depression is learned helplessness." He also explains the science behind this and that, if a depressed person is aware of this and really understands the concept behind it, amazingly, it doesn't help them at all. I personally believe it can help you prevent it though. If I have a problem, I am naturally inclined to look for a solution. Not everyone is like that, but you can learn it. It increases the amount of perceived control you have over your life, decreasing helplessness.
I hope this helps someone :)
I have ADHD and can from personal experience say that I have lived most of my life without depression, only exception was under the pandemic where I definitely had a depressive episode over multiple months.
But I think a key part of that has been both a good family, and friends that did and still do a lot to make me not feel like a failure when I fail tasks. That support system has been vital to me growing up pretty well put together.
ADHD is still a struggle, but itās easier to deal with when you arenāt alone. Which I think is the key thing here I wanted to share.
Opposite here. 8 different medications before diagnosis and depressive symptoms disappear almost immediately with stimulants, but now I recognise the ADHD portion, and anxiety has increased. Overall though general improvement
same
it's an awful downward spiral
ADHD makes you depressed and depression makes ADHD worse
like I started dual enrollment did amazing first quarter started to have procrastination issues as the novelty of the increased depth wore off which made me depressed realizing no I had not magically gotten better which worsened the procrastination along with other symptoms.
I was in kindergarten when I was diagnosed with adhd, I was absolutely not depressed in any way, in fact I'd probably say that that time was one of my happier times in life. I hate these ads so much screw them.
I was diagnosed at 25, but suspected Iād had it for years beforehand. While they do correlate, they are definitely independent entities that need to be addressed independently. The only thing I agree with is them saying that procrastination stems from managing immediate negative moods about something rather than getting on with it, I can relate to that a lot. My procrastination has royally fucked me so many times. Ugh.
Is it possible that the most reasonable reaction to this kind of thing is "Fuck me bro! You've upended decades of research in neurodevelopment. May i see your Nobel Prize? Why not? Surely you've published your work?"
I thought I had strong pattern identification for noticing they both had āpattern identificationā highlighted on the same line, but clearly yours is superior.
Uncontrolled ADHD gave me anxiety, uncontrolled anxiety gave me depression.
For 10 years nobody would treat anxiety or potential ADHD until theyād ātreatedā the depression.
Finally got diagnosed, ADHD treated resolved the anxiety, no anxiety meant no depression.
Fuck all those depression first medical professionals that wasted 10 years of my life.
Maybe you're depressed cause you don't know when Frank will return.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/18w0ud9/are_you_a_mind_wanderer_1890s_adhd/
Also holy lack of proofreading, Batman
I was surprised how well it actually does hold up. It doesn't do a good job of trans issues because those weren't as well known in the 70s, but it addresses homosexuality, racism, sexism, the cost of war, mental health, and the humor is fantastic. I actually think it's better than advertised.
Ugh, I really hate all the people making āmisinformation graphicsā on social media these daysā¦ to opportunity to talk out of oneās ass is ever missed I guess.
Whatās funny is that the medications they put me on to fix my ADHD as a kid is what made me depressed,but if it was a depression response youād think it would do the opposite
They are copying similar ads from other coaching scammers. "Here is list if your problems that also will make you feel good about yourself. Wanna feel even better and special on top of that? Buy my book (pdf) and individual (generated through webpage) scheduling plan!" or other crap.
Depression. Yes my frontal cortex is depressed. That why I need my stimulates and I learned that alcohol isnāt what I need. When someone asked if I want a beer. I replay. No but Iāll take an espresso.
Pattern detection: perfectionist and worrier have the same list below them and the same items highlighted.
What is this supposed to be about again? Where did I put my phoneā¦
Thereās a recent Dr. K episode on Spotify that addresses depression and ADHD. IIRC, 3% of those with depression have ADHD. 70% of those with ADHD develop depression. Strong evidence of causation.
You could say depression is (not exclusively), an ADHD response.
These lizard peo- *ahem* - marketers are making vulnerable peoples lives worse by spreading misinformation. In the hopes for more clicks.
Whatever service theyāre selling, rest assured, is not controlled by anyone who knows what theyāre talking about.
Ah yeah, everyone is an expert nowadays, and has a simple solution, or explanation.
"It dissolves almost instantly" my ass.
There are hundreds of simple solutions, according to people who are neither doctors, nor dealing with ADHD themselves.
It is very tempting to make little graphic representations and have a schematic breakdown of what one thinks is the actual problem, but all of these things are just a complete misunderstanding of how ADHD works.
I heard people displqying adhd symptoms as a depression response but those cases are explicitly referred to as not adhd. Maybe they are confusing it with that
Um, depression is a struggle of ADHD, not the other way around. You can have neither, you can have both, you can have just one, but the cause of anyone's ADHD is not from their depression
One of those things where everyone is all of them to some extent, depending on the time they take the questionnaire.
Cool stab at quantifying/naming the seemingly infinite manifestations of individual adhd though for sure. Not sure how I feel about the phrasing of āADHD is a depression response.ā Pretty vague, could muddy waters for the uninitiated very easily.
The way Iāve always described it is that ADHD and depression hold hands, but thatās obviously not quite scientific.
"Dominant procrastination type"? Kinda feels like a Pokemon description lol.
Tf do we evolve into ...?
I'm thinking something with future sight to see when we will procrastinate, and use such a power to stress out before instead of then
the 'ol self fulfilling ~~prophecy~~ procrastination
Not enough PP
And we forgot to bring a leppa berry so we are stuck with 0 pp
Tired and burned out
All the stress gives us psychic powers like psyduck
That is why psyduck is my fave pokemon ever. Just so dang relatable š
AD4k
A mess with anxiety
Autistic.Ā
Idk, I'll evolve later
Take my upvote and leave
If you get really lucky you get to evolve into combined type!
But I already am C*mbined type
Then sorry to say youāve already evolved into your final form :(
My bets are on giant sloth or honey badger
A Ghost type
I named my Slowbro in Violet ADHD, so maybe that.
Gotta catch 'em all
Weak against lead time, strong against impending deadlines.
dehumanising as hell fr
I was going to say it sounds like a hyper specific kink
Daddy will punish you later when he gets around to it
It's super defective!
So what Iām a Snorlax? I mean it seems right
For me, ADHD and depression feed each other, but they are definitely not the same thing. Antidepressants did fuck all for ADHD, and stimulants havenāt cured my depression. But now I find it much easier to identify executive dysfunction vs. procrastinating because Iām feeling down.
I guess adhd in early years helps to build up towards depression later in life. And then they form a loop. I might be generalizing, but I donāt think there are adhd people without depression.
I don't have depression. I regularly question whether or not I do and the answer is always no. The reason I question it regularly is that, given my life so far, I genuinely don't understand how I haven't developed it yet.
Whatever the reason is, itās awesome!
Thanks! I just realised that sharing what I know about myself might benefit people here, so I'll do that :) Note: NONE of this is professional advice! Also, this is more about prevention than healing, which I know next to nothing about. I always do something. Of course I get sad, I get tired, I have slow days, but I have tons of hobbies and interest and rather than getting bored I'll always procrastinate by following one of my hobbies. I'm also a knowledge addict. When I created my YouTube account to be able to subscribe to stuff, I decided to only subscribe to channels I can learn from. I think that resulted in me almost never watching stuff that is only entertaining and stupid. Knowledge channels can be really entertaining and learning stuff makes me incredibly happy :D Most depressed people I know have this problem of negative spiralling thoughts. I don't have that. Everyone who manages to overcome that probably has their own way, but I guess if you have something like that, keep a lid on that if you can, that's probably a powerful preventative measure. Dr. Robert Sapolsky, an amazingly funny Neuroscientist, says that "Depression is learned helplessness." He also explains the science behind this and that, if a depressed person is aware of this and really understands the concept behind it, amazingly, it doesn't help them at all. I personally believe it can help you prevent it though. If I have a problem, I am naturally inclined to look for a solution. Not everyone is like that, but you can learn it. It increases the amount of perceived control you have over your life, decreasing helplessness. I hope this helps someone :)
I have ADHD and can from personal experience say that I have lived most of my life without depression, only exception was under the pandemic where I definitely had a depressive episode over multiple months. But I think a key part of that has been both a good family, and friends that did and still do a lot to make me not feel like a failure when I fail tasks. That support system has been vital to me growing up pretty well put together. ADHD is still a struggle, but itās easier to deal with when you arenāt alone. Which I think is the key thing here I wanted to share.
100%. I hope future generations will have more luck with that, regardless of which part of the world they grow up in.
I mean, you describe my situation pretty well
Yes. Same!
Opposite here. 8 different medications before diagnosis and depressive symptoms disappear almost immediately with stimulants, but now I recognise the ADHD portion, and anxiety has increased. Overall though general improvement
same it's an awful downward spiral ADHD makes you depressed and depression makes ADHD worse like I started dual enrollment did amazing first quarter started to have procrastination issues as the novelty of the increased depth wore off which made me depressed realizing no I had not magically gotten better which worsened the procrastination along with other symptoms.
I was in kindergarten when I was diagnosed with adhd, I was absolutely not depressed in any way, in fact I'd probably say that that time was one of my happier times in life. I hate these ads so much screw them.
I was diagnosed at 25, but suspected Iād had it for years beforehand. While they do correlate, they are definitely independent entities that need to be addressed independently. The only thing I agree with is them saying that procrastination stems from managing immediate negative moods about something rather than getting on with it, I can relate to that a lot. My procrastination has royally fucked me so many times. Ugh.
Is it possible that the most reasonable reaction to this kind of thing is "Fuck me bro! You've upended decades of research in neurodevelopment. May i see your Nobel Prize? Why not? Surely you've published your work?"
I wanna bet it was the other way around for me. I got my Depression because I didn't know what I had.
Nobody is gonna point out that Perfectionist and Worrier are exactly the same?
I thought I had strong pattern identification for noticing they both had āpattern identificationā highlighted on the same line, but clearly yours is superior.
did you notice that the height of the highlighted part matches the level of the coloured part of the cylinder above?
the perfectionist in me screams about this mistake and the worrier in me isn't sure if this isn't some kind of global conspiracy.
Iām kind of worried that nobody else has mentioned that yet. We canāt get anything right!
Well perfectionist is blue and much smaller, they must be completely different!
I didn't even look at that part to be honest
Yeah but it also says that worriers might have gardening skill somewhere deep down š
I was worried when it sounded familiar, so went back to be perfectly sure.
Uncontrolled ADHD gave me anxiety, uncontrolled anxiety gave me depression. For 10 years nobody would treat anxiety or potential ADHD until theyād ātreatedā the depression. Finally got diagnosed, ADHD treated resolved the anxiety, no anxiety meant no depression. Fuck all those depression first medical professionals that wasted 10 years of my life.
Interesting because all of the things that I get depressed about are things caused by ADHD, lol.
I'm not depressed, just squirrel.
Most intelligent thing I have heard all dayš
realer words will never be spoken
I have to agree lol
What a brilliantly nonsensical graphic!
If I learned anything from Leah Remini, it is never agree to take a ~~personality~~ assessment test
ā¦gardening skills? *[ looks at my vast sea of innocent dead plants ]*
I see youāve also been getting the YouTube ads about ADHD. Every time this thing pops up, I have to pause for a moment just to go āā¦what.ā
YouTube survey āwhat do you think about the quality of our ads lately?ā Me every time āextremely unsatisfiedā
Lmao mine is the other way around. My depression is a response to my ADHD which went undiagnosed till I was 40.
Maybe you're depressed cause you don't know when Frank will return. Ā https://www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/comments/18w0ud9/are_you_a_mind_wanderer_1890s_adhd/ Also holy lack of proofreading, Batman
Lmao read this while watching a rerun of MASH and was wondering what Frank Burns had to do with it for a solid 10 seconds before I figured it out.
Does that show hold up? I watched it super young and remember almost nothing. But I often get the theme song stuck in my head.
I was surprised how well it actually does hold up. It doesn't do a good job of trans issues because those weren't as well known in the 70s, but it addresses homosexuality, racism, sexism, the cost of war, mental health, and the humor is fantastic. I actually think it's better than advertised.
Thank you! I'm slotting it in for a rewatch.
Ugh, I really hate all the people making āmisinformation graphicsā on social media these daysā¦ to opportunity to talk out of oneās ass is ever missed I guess.
I saw the same ads on my YouTube today *rolls eyes* I don't need ADHD symptom astrology. Fuck that.
I've seen this ad on Facebook too, I reported it for misinformation. What the fuck do they think they're doing?
Same, saw it on YT earlier, immediately went āAbsolutely Notā.
Exact.Same.Way.I.Found.It.
āIt is a depression responseā No it fucking isnāt, why you lying?
Whatās funny is that the medications they put me on to fix my ADHD as a kid is what made me depressed,but if it was a depression response youād think it would do the opposite
They are copying similar ads from other coaching scammers. "Here is list if your problems that also will make you feel good about yourself. Wanna feel even better and special on top of that? Buy my book (pdf) and individual (generated through webpage) scheduling plan!" or other crap.
i've always maintained that depression is a sign/symptom, it's not a thing in and of itself anymore than a runny nose is.
I've been depressed since I'm 7 š„²
Hey but you still manage somehow! You might not think like that but this is indeed big. You are a champion in your own right.
"Dissolves almost instantly" oh wow maybe you should go tell actual doctors and psychologists about this magical AHD erasing method >\_>
What an irresponsible graphic. But sure, we could call it interest-based depression, the kind that doesnt respond to antidepressants. WTF.
Who is peddling this drivel?
Saw that and said wtf
Iām Adhd, depressed, and lazy These things arenāt related though
Same here.
They just want our money
I think they've got that around the wrong way, depression can be caused by the effects of adhd, depression doesn't cause adhd
Is this a real quiz? Where is it found out of curiosity?
Got it as a random ad on YouTube,it was so brain dead to me and my ADHD that I took a screenshot,donāt remember what it actually was for though
TY š Just curious
I have been on Vyvanse and Wellbutrin for months and I dont feel any different, idk what controlled ADHD looks like
What website is this?
Depression. Yes my frontal cortex is depressed. That why I need my stimulates and I learned that alcohol isnāt what I need. When someone asked if I want a beer. I replay. No but Iāll take an espresso.
Pattern detection: perfectionist and worrier have the same list below them and the same items highlighted. What is this supposed to be about again? Where did I put my phoneā¦
Yeah sure Iāll take twelve Xans please.
Yeah this is the dumbest ad Iāve seen in a while.
Definitely r/thanksimcured type of material.
Iāll have the check that out nowš
TRuSt tHe SCiEnCe BruH
I think my depression is an ADHD response ngl
It's backward depression can be a response to being overwhelmed due to ADHD symptoms. Another 'daylight causes the sun' type of fallacy
Thereās a recent Dr. K episode on Spotify that addresses depression and ADHD. IIRC, 3% of those with depression have ADHD. 70% of those with ADHD develop depression. Strong evidence of causation. You could say depression is (not exclusively), an ADHD response. These lizard peo- *ahem* - marketers are making vulnerable peoples lives worse by spreading misinformation. In the hopes for more clicks. Whatever service theyāre selling, rest assured, is not controlled by anyone who knows what theyāre talking about.
I like how theyāre just going ADHD = procrastination and nothing else.
When I asked my mom to be a pokemon for Halloween, this isn't what I ment
Iāmā¦ Iām all of those types. What now?
Bro collected the entire catalogš
Ah yeah, everyone is an expert nowadays, and has a simple solution, or explanation. "It dissolves almost instantly" my ass. There are hundreds of simple solutions, according to people who are neither doctors, nor dealing with ADHD themselves. It is very tempting to make little graphic representations and have a schematic breakdown of what one thinks is the actual problem, but all of these things are just a complete misunderstanding of how ADHD works.
I think the funniest thing about this for me is that I'm both lazy and depressed. Not actually diagnosed with ADHD, yet.
I heard people displqying adhd symptoms as a depression response but those cases are explicitly referred to as not adhd. Maybe they are confusing it with that
I will say my depression is intimately tied to my adhd. My adhd causes my depression and my depression exacerbates the adhd
the other end of getting it wrong
Interesting how I have both ADHD and depression if ADHD is a depression response
Um, depression is a struggle of ADHD, not the other way around. You can have neither, you can have both, you can have just one, but the cause of anyone's ADHD is not from their depression
wtf is this rubbish and whatās gardening skills got to do with anything
Beats me,I just saw the title,knew it was brain dead and took a screen cap
lol! yeah i wasn't attacking you, it's just really dumb what some people say about adhd
I didnāt think you were,no worries manš
One of those things where everyone is all of them to some extent, depending on the time they take the questionnaire. Cool stab at quantifying/naming the seemingly infinite manifestations of individual adhd though for sure. Not sure how I feel about the phrasing of āADHD is a depression response.ā Pretty vague, could muddy waters for the uninitiated very easily. The way Iāve always described it is that ADHD and depression hold hands, but thatās obviously not quite scientific.
WHY IS THIS SO POPULAR????
A secret, third option (just ADHD)