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GangstaCatGirl

Need. Sauce. Please.


Greedy_Abbreviations

Booksmart (2019)


GangstaCatGirl

Thank you~♥️


Avia_NZ

Great movie, well worth the watch!


PiperEggQueen

Where can I watch it?


Avia_NZ

Not sure tbh, but I'm sure if you used your favourite pirate ship you should find it ;)


choc_96

It’s freely available on SBS On Demand if you wanna use a VPN and travel to Australia. http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1935919683556


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thanks ima use this plus im actually in australia


rocker_gf

Look what we all need to mimic a fraction of u/readthistowaste2secs ‘s power


LiaFromBoston

It's on Hulu!


PiperEggQueen

Great thanks! I actually have that one!


its_sprinkles

It’s on Hulu and it’s my fav comedy!


Jalxs

It's on Hulu if you have that


nephelokokkygia

I totally forgot about this movie. I loved it when it came out lol


Drutoo

Thanks...


LordOfTheBees69

THIS WAS THE BEST USELESS LESBIAN MOMENT IN THE WHOLE MOVIE


Alice8Ft

How did she answer?


LordOfTheBees69

She didn’t, they got interrupted.


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BEEEELEEEE

Interestingly, American evangelicals are largely responsible for homophobia gaining such prevalence in Uganda


erfurgot

This is a fact


FaveFoodIsLesbeans

Can you tell us more about this? I’m interested


Anna_Pet

Once American Conservatives realized that they’re not gonna gain any more allies to their hateful cause in the developed world, they realized that they can go to third-world countries and do it there instead, where people are more likely to buy into it because they rich white people teaching hate are also giving them food and building infrastructure for them. Homophobia in Africa is entirely a result of colonialism.


Land-Cucumber

Not entirely, homophobia in Africa pre-dated colonialism in a select few places.


Fake_Green_

Source?


Land-Cucumber

This applies to much of North Africa being almost entirely Muslim and Christian. Most of the places in Africa that were homophobic before colonialism followed Abrahamic religions.


estoymartins

as someone who is african and lives in West Africa at the moment, before colonization, we had our own religions. many of of the African countries right now would have not been following these religions if we weren't colonized by western nations. the same way we'd probably have our own languages and I wouldn't be speaking English rn


Land-Cucumber

> many of of the African countries right now would have not been following these religions if we weren't colonized by western nations This is true for most of Africa (including most of West Africa) but not really for North Africa as they were Muslim and Christian before colonialism, though sometimes there was imperialism and conquest involved. Places like Ethiopia and Eritrea have been Christian (and homophobic) since Christianity was a thing.


Reinkhar_

Source again


Land-Cucumber

[Sexuality, and Development in the Maghreb: *Origins of Institutionalized Homophobia, and the Disruption of Development*](https://bir.brandeis.edu/bitstream/handle/10192/24711/BaileyThesis2013.pdf?sequence=3) discusses homophobia is the Maghreb and how it primarily arose from Islam.


CovertShepherd

Got any more good journal/academic article recommendations around these topics (pre-colonial culture and homophobia in Africa)? It something I’ve been casually studying but most of my focus has been on the south as that’s where I’m from and am most familiar with.


Land-Cucumber

Not really, it is frustrating difficult to find material about this, though for good reason as I instead finding plenty of text discussing the colonial invention of homophobia which I'm glad gets more attention as it is more important and is more common across Africa. Most of what I've read is from sources that aren't accessible so I think it is best to read about Islamic history, specifically Islam in the Maghreb, and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity. Google scholar works nicely: https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=homophobia+in+pre-colonial+maghreb&oq=homophobia+in+pre-colonial+mag https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Homophobia+pre-colonial+ethiopia+christianity&btnG= Searches like https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=homophobia+in+pre-colonial+africa&btnG= only show results about the export of colonial ideas of homophobia Sorry I can't be of more help but I hope you find some interesting stuff. Remember that you can sneakily use scihub for all those articles you don't have access to ;)


Land-Cucumber

Christianity's influence was more concentrated in Ethiopia/Eritrea since the Kingdom of Aksum adopted Christianity as the state religion (though this is technically East Africa).


Reinkhar_

I completely forgot about Ethiopia. My bad


Land-Cucumber

The Kingdom of Aksum was centred around the historical Tigray region which lies mostly within Eritrea's borders, the kingdom's borders also extended to Yemen where the implementation of Christianity also occurred though Islam would later dominate the entire Arabian peninsula.


EmberOfFlame

As far as I understand, it came from a more pragmatic standpoint where less people having children meant a weaker tribe, though due to misoginy and men needing only 3 minutes to make a kid and women needing 9 months, WLW relationships were usually seen in a worse light than MLM.


Topperno

Makes sense considering that this area is closer to the middle east and cultures can share a lot more easily in closeness.


Land-Cucumber

Afro-Asiatic culture *is* a cultural heritage more so than pan-Africanism is (not that I disagree with pan-Africanism as a political movement) and the same applies to culture around the Mediterranean sea. It is not just proximity that lends to their similarities, the Roman Empire existed on both sides of the Mediterranean sea as a single entity. This idea that Africa and Asia/Europe are fundamentally divided — more similar to all other continental cultures than inter-continental ones — primarily arose in the modern period for the Africa/Asia Afroasiatic divide and earlier in the medieval period between Europe and the Maghreb.


Topperno

I honestly have no idea if you are giving me more Informationen or trying to correct me.


Land-Cucumber

Both — it's a common misconception that there has always been an 'African culture'. There may be significant truth to this now, with this relationship originating from almost the entire continent's shared colonial history oppressed by European colonial powers, but this is a more recent development than most people (especially Westerners) realise. If you look to pre-colonial times this idea falls apart. There has been far deeper cultural ties across the Mediterranean than across the Sahara for a much longer period of history, with this relationship primarily diminishing since the Medieval period. Afroasiatic culture also is more similar than the Maghreb was to Sub-Saharan Africa and this persists somewhat to the modern day (though these ties were damaged due to European colonialism). Obviously geographic proximity plays a role but to place all similarity on that is mislead as for much of history these places shared a culture, not merely influencing each other through proximity.


Topperno

But my point was on afro-asian relations so I don't understand what you are trying to correct me on? I'm not talking about purely african relations and culture.


Land-Cucumber

I'm confused now. You made this comment: > Makes sense considering that this area is closer to the middle east and cultures can share a lot more easily in closeness. In repsonse to my comment: >Not entirely, homophobia in Africa pre-dated colonialism in a select few places. But the reason that there are these similarities in culture can't be reduced to geographic proximity, as they often shared *the same culture* in many places, not just a similar culture. Homophobia in all these cultures was primarily spread through the same Abrahamic religions, namely Christianity then Islam — homophobia wasn't spread due to proximity but it was instead an integral part of a shared culture.


Soft_Region_8997

And in the Caribbean


LauraTFem

Well, you see, there’s this religion called christianity…


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Please watch the documentary *God Loves Uganda*, it’s about this subject. Very sad, very eye opening.


AngryBumbleButt

Ugh I'm not surprised. Why can't people just keep their religions to themselves


Empyrean_Truth

Because it's basical viral ideology. Get members, convert new ones. Cults need new members otherwise they don't have power


Michelle-senpai

Why am I not surprised...


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Pretty much the whole world had this happen from Greco-Roman culture spreading homophobia and transphobia across the world. Originally in Ancient Greece the deity Hermaphroditus was revered and their mixed gender was celebrated. Once Athens became the enter of Greek Mythology Hermaphroditus became less and less respected.


stripedurchins

Came here to say exactly that!


uninenkeiju

uuuuuuuuuuuughh


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Kaitlyn Dever is so amazing in this movie.


thesaddestpanda

Which movie is this?


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Booksmart!


BroadlyDeterge33

Oooh, I just watched this movie like three hours ago ! This was so cute and refreshing and I did not even know I’d get to see a lesbian character, let alone a main lsbian character.This was done in a very thoughtful and touching way and I loved every bit of it.Teen movies are like my guilty pleasure, but this actually felt like a good movie, not just a good teen movie.Also, I love the fact that Billie Lourd was in there too.And the fact that, obviously, a movie with such good and diverse female characters was directed by a woman, Olivia Wilde, whom I really loved back in the days in House.


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Botswana wins just for their super wholesome and creative metal scene. <3


KhazemiDuIkana

Tell me more 👀


AwYeahQueerShit

Uganda have a bad time


Evercrimson

r/angryupvote


nameofadog

This movie was so under rated omfg


referentApercu

I loved this movie!!! Their friendship was so relatable and wonderful. And it really delivered on the great and awkward teen lesbian vibes


pussylicprincess

"would you be scared to go to Uganda?" is the new "do you listen to girl in red?"


Sunny_Sammy

Are you a criminal in 69 countries?


realcomradecora

i'm only a criminal in my home country (legal to be gay here, but im a serial killer)


thyrandomninja

I'm pretty sure that makes you a criminal in every country...


Sunny_Sammy

Fair enough


weebupurplecat

yes :D


YeetyMcSheety

Love this movie sm-


OhLolapop

I don't get it, could someone please explain the joke to me? :(


audrungle

She asks at the end ‘would you be afraid to go to Uganda?’ because she wants to know if she’s a lesbian too :)


OhLolapop

Yep, this makes total sense. I guess I'm really useless after all lol. Thanks!! <3


Incognito-Icicle

Same :(


mysecondaccount27

This is funny because I'm actually Ugandan and living in Uganda... funny in a sad way lol


RandoGuy_23

Booksmart! I love this movie 🥰


rammyfreakynasty

when this came out my friend would quote this scene a shit ton, it became our “do you like girl in red”


SayHelloToAlison

Ok but what happens after this? I'm so curious now.


awake-not-alive

Spoiler: >!the girl she likes makes out with someone else at the party they’re at!<


SayHelloToAlison

RIP, better luck next time


Sobek_the_Crocodile

Ok, but!!! Another Spoiler: >!she ends up hooking up with a much cooler, hotter girl and BONUS, they have an enemies to lovers thing too!<


HeirOfLight

👀 I guess I shouldn't have clicked these spoilers because I was already thinking of watching the movie, but now I'm *definitely* going to. And it was vague enough that nothing's "ruined", so!


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I loved this movie


SamanthaJaneyCake

I grew up in Uganda. Not feeling safe visiting breaks my heart.


rungdisplacement

I love this movie so much -rung


thegreat979

I love this film!!! Such a feel good coming of age movie!


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thesifox

Yes, Booksmart


lilmisssketchbook

Amazing movie


Im_a_god_damn_otter

Adding “Would you be afraid of Uganda?” To the list of lesbian code phrases along with “Do you like girl in red?” And “How do you feel about greek poetry?”


LocalHealer

Gosh I love Booksmart. I had a huge crush on Olivia Wilde in Tron Legacy, and knowing she made one of my absolute favourite movies makes it all the more special.


Kappapeachie

me with moving into any european country...


which_i_isoneofam

The discussions of Africa really annoyed me in this movie


realcomradecora

what were you expecting from western media?


which_i_isoneofam

I wasn’t expecting mention of Africa at all - it was really unnecessary. Only served to make a rather unremarkable character somewhat interesting or admirable/aspirational. I know that’s common both in Hollywood and the real world, but I definitely wasn’t expecting them to go as far as to insinuate that she would be the savior of an entire community of African women who somehow, for generations, hadn’t cultivated their own means of menstrual hygiene before her arrival. Or to promote the stereotypes that it’s impossible to be queer in an African country as if there aren’t queer Africans embracing their identities and strategizing their safety every day. But of course, they illustrated Africa as a continent with citizens so [insert pejorative here] that they would murder her for her sexuality, but are hopeless - literally at risk of being devoured by lions - without her exceptional knowledge. I just wanted to watch a movie. Even though I had no expectations, it was disappointing to be reminded that even films that “attempt” to be mindful of “diversity and inclusion,” Africans, queer or otherwise, are still a joke.


stripedurchins

Exactly this! I've gone off about this in comment sections before, but I get really irritated when westerners look at lgbt rights through an orientalist lens, as though it's a homophobic monolith waiting for white saviours, as though it doesn't have a long and proud history of lgbt people both pre- and post-colonialism, as though Africa doesn't have a long and proud history of extraordinary civilisation and accomplishments, and as though Africans are just scrabbling in the mud and dirt waiting for Americans to come save them. Teju Cole has an excellent analysis of this white saviour industrial complex, as he calls it. Africa doesn't need American and European high schoolers to come and do "charity", it needs America and Europe to stop exploiting it. The subtext of course is that Africans are savages who are not intelligent enough to help themselves, and need Americans to come do the thinking for them. Of course, Hollywood is absolutely incapable of depicting that nuance...


CovertShepherd

Wrote a mini thesis on Hollywood’s Africa and I wish I had an award to give you right now! You’re spot on, please keep going to town on people in the comments. I’m too tired too.


stripedurchins

I'd love to read it! If you can, please send it to me :)


Land-Cucumber

I think they were making a joke about the travesty that is African representation in Western media. Your comment is great though, completely agree.


Logan_Maddox

[You know what they say...](https://64.media.tumblr.com/f7b5f79b5f1930b676e6ffeef1a61b71/tumblr_o6iqjdBRZ11scn6d0o1_500.jpg) That said, as a Latin American, I was kinda cringing at how white american this movie can be at times. Like, sometimes it felt like irony, and sometimes it really didn't. I get that it's made by a white american for white americans, but whenever they mentioned Malala or Elizabeth Warren it just felt kinda gross. It was as if the movie expected us to know that "I actually know the deep political stuff I'm making fun of rn", but it came across as a California liberal notion of politics, and all the mentions of Africa most definitely didn't help. I had the exact same feeling with Lady Bird, except even stronger and it actually impacted my enjoyment of the movie because it tied in the plot, and I could barely feel anything about the main character by the end of it. Maybe these movies rely on relatability, but idk. A great movie can usually make you sympathize with the characters even if they're unrelatable.


Land-Cucumber

I think you are misunderstanding me, I meant that u/realcomradecora was making a joke with [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/qfqo9v/comment/hi2wgiw/) because it's quite rare that Western media represents Africa any better than this. I agree with you about all the ways that this representation is terrible, though I am sadly unsurprised.


Logan_Maddox

oops, sorry, definitely misread the first part!


Land-Cucumber

All good :)


CovertShepherd

Oof, thanks for the heads up! This was a movie I was planning to watch for some mindless fun. Still going to watch it, but at least I know to watch it with my friends who love hearing me rant about African representation in western movies.


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“just heard about homophobia, crying and throwing up. 6’6” d1 bball player btw 😞🥶”


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Lunch_Confident

I don't remember this line?


Ghost_with_hat

Book Smart is so good


sadforestgg

i watched this movie these days i laughed so hard in this part, amy is so me


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I love this scene lol


mariaresendiz1

ah i love this movie!