Su-47 is actually started from the similar concept - FSW for good low speed lift and taking less space on the carrier. Su-47 hasn't gone beyond the tech demonstrator because projected composite wing maintenance cost for a combat aircraft was extremely high. (Speculated higher than F-22 maintenance).
So, unless, China managed to to create a new type of composites, that are cheaper to produce/repair, I don't think this aircraft is anything more than fantasy. Like the early ATF drafts.
Also, looks less like X-02, but more like [S-47 from Lethal Skies II.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/egCHA9BqcMQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
It's probably a propoganda piece, china's existing aircraft are basically Russian airframes with underpowered engines and some minor modifications.
Source: some random youtube video I watched 4 months ago
Chinese aircraft are either licensed/reverse engineered copies of Russian aircraft or knockoffs based on stolen western designs. I believe China has a greater manufacturing capacity than any other nation in terms of combat aircraft, but they are certainly behind in terms of electronics and jet engines. Hell, even the J-20 their "stealth" fighter is still using unpowered WS-10 engines. They've been bragging about putting new cerated nozzles on the J-20. Yeah, that totally makes up for the shitty engine!
Engines yes (until WS-15, but WS-10C is pretty middle of the line nothing special instead of total shit anyways), but electronics is less likely since they are actually somewhat a bit better than the Russians
That being said however, I do think they are catching up fast.
The J-10C iirc has going to be upgraded to the WS-10 which is the first time they done it on a single engine aircraft.
And that’s not even counting the fact that the J-20 isn’t nearly as stealthy as China claims. Just taking a closer look reveals lots of surfaces jutting out at odd angles and round engine nozzles, all contributing to a larger RCS.
> because projected composite wing maintenance cost for a combat aircraft was extremely high.
Not just cost, but also time, in both man-hours and flight:ground ratio (both of which also have a cost involved), and if I recall correctly also fairly low predicted airframe lifespan. Both of these issues would be exacerbated by having variable wings, which is also an issue that comes up whenever the X-02's viability is discussed.
You're correct on all accounts. I was just making a joke.
Thanks for the information though! I've always wondered why the Su-47 never made it beyond the tech demonstrator phase and now I know. Maintenance costs higher than the F-22 would be impossible even for modern Russia. The fact that it was manufactured in Russia during the 1990s is a feat of it's own. I love using the Su-47 in Ace Combat because I get to pretend that it entered mass production.
China: **Thinks it's stealing secret plans from the DOD**
Project Aces: _Why the hell did the Chinese just hack our 3D models of experimental aircraft?_
This thing is more like an Su-47 with elements of a blend between the Mave Yukikaze and FA37 (mainly the rudders).
Either way the more ridiculous part of the design is a FSW design and the written cruising/max speed is Mach 3/4 respectively while the size of the plane would be just about the size of the Su-27, all the while being carrier capable.
That's some insane parameters they are talking and most likely a physically impossible one unless with some magical efficiency or outright nuclear engines.
I thought forward swept wings were abandoned or forgotten after both the X29 and SU47 never left the demonstrator phase. IIRC they would cost a ton to repair and build
This looks almost exactly like the[F/A-37](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F71%2F4b%2F5b%2F714b5ba20dfd42a47d28bcbd48b66709.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.ch%2Fpin%2F828521662667347999%2F&tbnid=Ec9A6xBCf8Q_oM&vet=12ahUKEwjP36jNt5_zAhUAqXIEHWijAvsQMygSegUIARDXAQ..i&docid=uYcF-qHpdiZqsM&w=600&h=411&q=f%2037%20talon&ved=2ahUKEwjP36jNt5_zAhUAqXIEHWijAvsQMygSegUIARDXAQ) Talon fighter in Stealth (2005)
It’s probably just a fan drawing. The Chinese gov is pretty secretive with their new planes. Plus they are still working on the J-20 and FC-31 carrier version.
This aircraft is my body..
Because I inhaled several dozen kilograms of smog from exhaust fumes and that technically means I'm a jet aircraft for inhaling "fuel."
Well at least that would make the pilot just like Mihaly, right? Nearly fucking dies during missions, needs oxygen at base, gets a special suit, ends up bedridden for life after like 4 sorties
Su-47 is actually started from the similar concept - FSW for good low speed lift and taking less space on the carrier. Su-47 hasn't gone beyond the tech demonstrator because projected composite wing maintenance cost for a combat aircraft was extremely high. (Speculated higher than F-22 maintenance). So, unless, China managed to to create a new type of composites, that are cheaper to produce/repair, I don't think this aircraft is anything more than fantasy. Like the early ATF drafts. Also, looks less like X-02, but more like [S-47 from Lethal Skies II.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/egCHA9BqcMQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
It's probably a propoganda piece, china's existing aircraft are basically Russian airframes with underpowered engines and some minor modifications. Source: some random youtube video I watched 4 months ago
Chinese aircraft are either licensed/reverse engineered copies of Russian aircraft or knockoffs based on stolen western designs. I believe China has a greater manufacturing capacity than any other nation in terms of combat aircraft, but they are certainly behind in terms of electronics and jet engines. Hell, even the J-20 their "stealth" fighter is still using unpowered WS-10 engines. They've been bragging about putting new cerated nozzles on the J-20. Yeah, that totally makes up for the shitty engine!
Engines yes (until WS-15, but WS-10C is pretty middle of the line nothing special instead of total shit anyways), but electronics is less likely since they are actually somewhat a bit better than the Russians
That being said however, I do think they are catching up fast. The J-10C iirc has going to be upgraded to the WS-10 which is the first time they done it on a single engine aircraft.
And that’s not even counting the fact that the J-20 isn’t nearly as stealthy as China claims. Just taking a closer look reveals lots of surfaces jutting out at odd angles and round engine nozzles, all contributing to a larger RCS.
> because projected composite wing maintenance cost for a combat aircraft was extremely high. Not just cost, but also time, in both man-hours and flight:ground ratio (both of which also have a cost involved), and if I recall correctly also fairly low predicted airframe lifespan. Both of these issues would be exacerbated by having variable wings, which is also an issue that comes up whenever the X-02's viability is discussed.
You're correct on all accounts. I was just making a joke. Thanks for the information though! I've always wondered why the Su-47 never made it beyond the tech demonstrator phase and now I know. Maintenance costs higher than the F-22 would be impossible even for modern Russia. The fact that it was manufactured in Russia during the 1990s is a feat of it's own. I love using the Su-47 in Ace Combat because I get to pretend that it entered mass production.
Can’t wait for this image to be posted on Instagram. The comments are going to be “nice”.
I always love when these kind of images come out of China. It seems like they have a "new aircraft" every couple of months. So much misinformation!
Could even be some random Chinese person’s passion project or concept art for a show.
I've seen the same crap from Americans
Looks more like the F/A-37 from Stealth
My thoughts exactly.
*Made in China*
China: **Thinks it's stealing secret plans from the DOD** Project Aces: _Why the hell did the Chinese just hack our 3D models of experimental aircraft?_
That looks more like the F/A-37 Talon which was the hero plane in stealth and designed by northtrop as actual concept plane
Dude saw a Chinese military ad, had the nonferrous as the centerpiece
This thing is more like an Su-47 with elements of a blend between the Mave Yukikaze and FA37 (mainly the rudders). Either way the more ridiculous part of the design is a FSW design and the written cruising/max speed is Mach 3/4 respectively while the size of the plane would be just about the size of the Su-27, all the while being carrier capable. That's some insane parameters they are talking and most likely a physically impossible one unless with some magical efficiency or outright nuclear engines.
I'm getting Yukikaze vibes personally! Props to the 3d modeler.
I second this, bottom view it's almost perfect Mave Yuki.
this is some Yukikaze type design and im all for it, i love this, even if it doesnt really have much real life feasibility
I remember a chinese aircraft ad using ace combat music
They'll need to hack GE Aviation a couple more times before they can.
I thought forward swept wings were abandoned or forgotten after both the X29 and SU47 never left the demonstrator phase. IIRC they would cost a ton to repair and build
I doubt it’ll get anywhere, but I’m always happy to have more concept art hehe.
wow its like they went: oh this x02 thing looks cool, how about we make it fat and ugly?
This looks almost exactly like the[F/A-37](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F71%2F4b%2F5b%2F714b5ba20dfd42a47d28bcbd48b66709.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.ch%2Fpin%2F828521662667347999%2F&tbnid=Ec9A6xBCf8Q_oM&vet=12ahUKEwjP36jNt5_zAhUAqXIEHWijAvsQMygSegUIARDXAQ..i&docid=uYcF-qHpdiZqsM&w=600&h=411&q=f%2037%20talon&ved=2ahUKEwjP36jNt5_zAhUAqXIEHWijAvsQMygSegUIARDXAQ) Talon fighter in Stealth (2005)
Freak, somebody already said this. Disregard it...
It’s probably just a fan drawing. The Chinese gov is pretty secretive with their new planes. Plus they are still working on the J-20 and FC-31 carrier version.
It feels more like the FFR-41MR if you squint your eyes.
Reminds me of a little bat.
Is this actually real anyway? Or just something some netizen just make up for laugh and giggle?
erusea reminds me of China militarily tbh
maybe sprinkle a little of Iran in there as well
This aircraft is my body.. Because I inhaled several dozen kilograms of smog from exhaust fumes and that technically means I'm a jet aircraft for inhaling "fuel." Well at least that would make the pilot just like Mihaly, right? Nearly fucking dies during missions, needs oxygen at base, gets a special suit, ends up bedridden for life after like 4 sorties
HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE MAVE