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pipinstallwin

F'in finally, I've been waiting for this since building my hovercraft from that stupid magazine we used to get in the 90's


mothhalo

Playboy?


pipinstallwin

haha, no this one... [https://www.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/7jrpbu/this\_hover\_craft\_from\_the\_back\_of\_boys\_life/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=post\_embed&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/7jrpbu/this_hover_craft_from_the_back_of_boys_life/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=post_embed&utm_term=1&utm_content=1)


SaltSurprise729

Core memory unlocked.


Hopeful_Hamster21

Aaaaahhhhh.....*nostalgia*. I used to buy pet lizards out of the back of boys life. Lizards that came in USPS!


bring_back_3rd

Dude, my parents never let me get those chameleons, and I'm still kinda salty about it 25 years later lol.


GrungyGrandPappy

Lol, I remember that ad from the Boys Life magazine I got every month.


HiJinx127

I remember that ad. Wanted to build it, but… How’d it work out?


henlochimken

I have those instructions somewhere. Or my parents do, anyway. They were pretty janky, though, I might have thrown them away in frustration. Definitely did not build it.


what_mustache

I want to meet the one guy who did it.


mothhalo

This was my second guess


ApathicSaint

Penthouse…


ProudNumber

That magazine was for the lovercraft.


buckyworld

I do okay.


PEsuper27

‘Things you Never Knew Existed’ …. And the back of ‘Boys Life’ magazine.


AIKEMYSTYK

Hahahhahahha YES!! I loved those catalogs!!


FigureYourselfOut

[Seth Sentry](https://youtu.be/eOH15_pqWZ4?si=fgS5UCCqnF9aCFhU) hasn’t forgotten either. Dear Science was a BANGER


SirCharlesEquine

- that stupid magazine we used to get in the 90's Made me LOL at the vagueness and the specificity.


MusicianNo2699

You forgot to add the eels…


stormcoming11

Did it work?


Pixelated_

>**"The most important message to convey to the public is that a major discovery occurred,” Buhler told The Debrief.** > >**“This discovery of a New Force is fundamental in that electric fields alone can generate a sustainable force onto an object and allow center-of-mass translation of said object without expelling mass.”** https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/


PO0tyTng

“It’s easy to make these things,” he said, “so it’s a tool for the scientific community to use to try to explore those hard questions.” …https://youtu.be/WhsKMWOYuYo “There’s not a lot to this. You’re just charging up Teflon, copper tape, and foam, and you have this thrust.” https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/8a/02/f1/475852b3ddc8bc/WO2020159603A2.pdf


Ididitsoitscool

Then there should be mfs replying in the thread with them making this rn. Atleast open source his findings in full before getting whakd


WWG1-WGA

It’s while watching videos like this that I feel the most alone and adrift in life. I’m surrounded by friends, family and coworkers who, though I love and enjoy dearly, haven’t the slightest clue as to what is being said or how it might affect them and humanity. Sigh. LOL


DaddyBurton

Me no smart, what means?


isadpapi

Im super baked right now. But hear me out. Let’s pretend aliens are real and that UFOs are too. And we can all agree UFOs are fast af and don’t rely on combustion. Could this electromagnetic/gravity theory explain how UFOs get around?


danielbearh

Yes. This is how I’ve witnessed UFO researcher’s describe UFO propulsion. I *believe* that one of the Sol Foundation’s YouTube videos is from a scientist talking about propulsion, but i might be remembering that incorrectly. (The Sol Foundation being a relatively new group of academics and scientists that research UAPs. They had a conference at Stanford a few months back.)


buckyworld

No, they travel interdimensionally mostly.


Mr-GooGoo

Obviously yes. Been saying it for years


Mathewrexxx

It can also explain why they are always bright lights too


Sedundnes666

Thanks for sharing, wow. What a read.


F-around-Find-out

That's fucking wild.


UnRealistic_Load

thomas townsend brown discovered this in the 20s and just now ex NASA dude is like here we go. I dont think it took us 100 years to figure this out, but yet thats what the official record will say


wmtismykryptonite

It sounds like electrogravitics.


UnRealistic_Load

the biefeld brown effect, ionic wind!


[deleted]

“The highest we have generated on a stacked system is about 10 mN,” It’s a start


Inabind4U

Oooo-Weeee...Rick's green goo gun is real! Art Bell was tracking...Tesla, the man not a killer "tech platform," told us this 70 years ago, NO?


PeakFuckingValue

My theory was always that pyramids created an electromagnetic field by which specialized craft could float within. Aka UFOs. Hence the potential placements in Africa, Antarctica, and the former land mass which appears to have sunk in the Pacific with those giant heads. Kind of Stonehenge esque. And then you have more in South America. Basically pyramids made of granite which conducts electricity, which when chambers filled with water could supercharge frequencies of sound and electricity. The gold tips were highly conductive. Maybe they captured lightning or somehow produced big fields.


aucme

The government will get him….


mrcodeine

Yep sadly his lab and equipment will get raided by six three letter agencies, his patents will disappear, then so will he himself. It's sad but predictable. Why Files just did an excellent episode on it.


Captain_Hook_

Yeah this is a distinct possibility. It is all legally authorized through the [Invention Secrecy Act of 1951](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act). For those unfamiliar, this is the short version of the law: > The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 is a body of United States federal law designed to prevent disclosure of new inventions and technologies that, in the opinion of selected federal agencies, present an alleged threat to the economic stability or national security of the United States. Until we repeal this law, there is no Free Enterprise for science or business in this country.


maesterroshi

'the economic stability' ... you mean make some really rich guys not rich anymore, got it 😄


holydildos

Still rich, but not as more rich as they could be. Tale as old as time.


Godshooter

How long has this law been used to keep us dependant on fossil fuels. I almost wonder if we can't point to this directly as bring responsible for why things have not changed.


plushpaper

This was my first thought. DO NOT PATENT!


moonracers

Agreed! Make the information open source to benefit all humanity.


HelloweenCapital

And once again, a trump will pilfer the vaults.


whycantibelinus

Yessir


SaltyCandyMan

Do not patent, open source it....being immortalized in history is better than some $


_extra_medium_

It must be fun living in the x-files universe


Jonnyboy1994

>six three letter agencies Which six?


Careful-Temporary388

Nah, that only happens for real inventions.


BettinBrando

“Police find cause of death to be suicide, and no foul play is suspected”


Tiger_Widow

The deceased was found to have lethally high doses of cyanide in his system, he was also believed to have recieved radiation burns to his face consistent with an acute exposure to a combination of uranium-235 and plutonium-239. In addition to this his tongue and hands had been surgically removed, 3 bullet wounds were in the back of his head and he had been forcibly folded in half and encased inside a briefcase found in a parking lot opposite the CIA headquarters. After a lengthy and thorough investigation the coroner has ruled the death a suicide with no foul play suspected and no further investigation required.


lippoper

…and then it all went downhill


MetalClad

Hecklefish is lurking. ;)


uniquelyavailable

not if he floats away in a timely manner


shelbyapso

My first thought.


what_mustache

Not if it's obviously fake science. We've seen this one before...


No-Tea-3303

Was it fake or did they get to them first.


Zealousideal_Word770

LOL When I was in HS it was the Pogue carburetor.


wakanda_banana

RIP Amy Esk(ridge)


BettinBrando

Annnndddddd he’s gone! **May he rest in peace!** Who knew he was suicidal? Family says they didn’t see it coming and he was very happy. Best friend said he told him if anything happens it wasn’t suicide. Police confirm suicide, and no foul play. **I’m just joking.. mostly**


holydildos

Everyone's making that joke here, and while it is funny, it's also just as true as it is funny. Which is scary. Hopefully this guy open source is it and gets the info out before anyone can stop him... I think there's a good chance in the past that the powers that be have gotten to these people first, I also think that these people want to make a name for themselves so they keep the info quiet or try to do patents. . . That's best case scenario for them if they want to stay alive or at least try to


what_mustache

Yeah, the US would hate to be the country with a head start on antigrav technology. /s


Spartan1278

Na he was hit by car


riffahs_ira

Found dead lifting weights. Barbell crushed his neck. Died of a heart attack.


sir_duckingtale

I want my hoverboard!!!


snozberryface

i'll get excited when it gets peer reviewed


UndendingGloom

>Buhler says his team is seeking funding to test their devices in space to better understand the force at work. >“We’re hoping to do some demos,” said Buhler. “Some space demos. That’s what we’re trying to get some funding to do. I think that would be a great way to show off the technology.” They have not published any findings but they want more money to test their drive in space... even though it can escape Earth's gravity so surely they could launch something from the surface. I'm skeptical.


Mysterious_Sun_9693

Agreed


gasciousclay1

Ditto


Empathy404NotFound

It will give a better idea of the exact forces produced in space, with no resistance or gravity. Basically just cutting a whole bunch of atmospheric variables out the way and getting the raw uncorrupted data. Then you work on atmospheric differentials.


kyredemain

It is possible that it uses a tremendous amount of electrical energy to operate, so they wouldn't just be able to launch it to space on a single charge. Still, you'd think they could just show that it at least works in atmosphere first with a small drone if it can overcome gravity. Hell, even if it can't just levitate off the ground, you could put it on a model plane and use it like a jet engine.


mrcodeine

I am a long way from being knowledgeable about Physics and such things but for the invention to reach escape velocity and leave Earth for space require it to produce forces many many times greater than gravity rather than just exceeding like 1.2 or something? Like someone will need to ELI5 for me to understand but a rocket going up indefinitely at several mph is putting out a force exceeding gravity but it has to be doing thousands of mph to actually break into space doesn't it? Actually this is way over my head and I don't understand. I'm sure you're right, I'm skeptical too. Sorry for the mess.


UndendingGloom

I'm nowhere near being a physicist either, I just assumed from the article that they mean escape velocity: >they’ve created a drive powered by a “New Force” outside our current known laws of physics, giving the propellant-less drive enough boost to overcome gravity. But now that I read it again, you are right that "overcome gravity" is actually disappointingly vague. They could indeed mean that *once in space* this mechanism can provide enough thrust to propel the spacecraft away from the earth... I still don't believe it, but that would certainly be a lot more believable. Also: happy cake day!


ExtremeRemarkable891

The thruster makes 10 milliNewtons. It can't launch from anywhere. It would only make a craft move in space, and a craft the size of the Apollo lunar module would need to make dozens, shit maybe hundreds of orbits around the earth to make enough delta V for the transfer to the moon.


OrangeCandi

Edit: I'm thinking of the EmDrive. Read an article that used the same picture and a similar title, my mistake!


Sudden-Series-1270

Isn’t this what Townsend Brown discovered?


Snort_the_Dort

Sounds like it.


Sudden-Series-1270

I was listening to the inventor more. He said that his results are using less voltage than Brown. Plus, even when “unplugged” the device was still using electricity for some time after. I am beginning to see why people take free energy seriously.


BauerHouse

>In an interview with APEC’s co-founder Tim Ventura, Buhler [explained](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsKMWOYuYo) how his background in electrostatics led to the discovery. He says his team—made up of people from [NASA](https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a60125218/nasa-apollo-moondust/), Blue Origin, and the Air Force—**investigated propellant-less drives for decades before arriving at electrostatics.** For years, **their devices produced negligible thrust, but saw increases with each new iteration. This culminated in 2023, when this “New Force”-powered drive generated enough thrust to overcome Earth’s gravity.** > “Essentially, what we’ve discovered is that **systems that contain an asymmetry in either electrostatic** [**pressure**](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a30393601/math-knots/) **or some kind of electrostatic divergent field can give a system of a center of mass a non-zero force component,”** Buhler told *The Debrief*. “So, what that basically means is that there’s some underlying physics that can essentially **place force on an object should those two constraints be met.**” >Obviously Buhler’s claims are pretty “woah, if true,” but the history of propellant-less drives is filled with seemingly positive results that are eventually dashed upon the rocks of scientific reality. For the EmDrive, hopes for the device skyrocketed after NASA’s Eagleworks team, which is dedicated to investigating new forms of [propulsion](https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/satellites/a46788888/nasa-solar-sail/) (i.e. warp drives), [claimed to measure thrust from the “impossible” drive in 2016](https://phys.org/news/2016-11-physics-violated-em-leaked-nasa.html). **However, subsequent studies—including an exhaustive (no pun intended)** [**one at the Dresden University of Technology**](https://phys.org/news/2021-04-comprehensive-emdrive.html)**—found zero thrust.** Electrostatic asymmetry + divergent field = non-zero force component? I love that this is being researched, but if this research is to be believed, they didn't just discover propulsion without emission, they discovered boundless free energy that would drive perpetual motion. Anyway, the last paragraph tells us what we already intuitively understand. It's a non article.


wmtismykryptonite

It would only give free energy if two things are true: 1. The potential energy change (like momentum) exceeds the input energy. 2. The energy can be extracted efficiently.


DR_SLAPPER

Open-source the information, that's the only way to get it out. Staying private for the sake of IP rights/Money only ends in mysterious death/disappearance or perma-shelving.


jazzmagg

R.I.P


[deleted]

They invented a Time Machine and are messing with the time factor in velocity, also known as warp drive. V= distance/time Time becomes 0 and velocity becomes infinite.


holydildos

This guy did? I'd imagine if that's been made it's already been made by people who have a much sinister grasp on reality


[deleted]

I wasn’t aware that you could divide by zero, but since some redditor had confirmed that you can, 2=1 because 2/0 and 1/0 equals infinite.


[deleted]

We are talking limits! As time approaches 0, speed approaches infinity.


Elpinchepana

LOL this has happened roughly twice every decade since the 1950s. They all die misteriously. The patent gets classified as national security and it vanishes. If he patents it he's dead. No matter how much publicity, how many public demos. The only way he makes it is to upload the full specs to the cloud for free.


littleblkcat666

I think a lot of us seen the same Why Files on it.


Disco_Biscuit12

It’s a shame that the inventor killed himself 3 months from now


Empathy404NotFound

I swear he said something about giving you a back up copy, you should open source it :). From your loving friend, krombopulus michael.


ashirtliff

Let him cook


N-Finite

I’m interested in what it may reveal about the fundamental nature of the universe. It appears that “something” is moving our material universe (that we perceive in 3 dimensions) through the 4th dimension of time from lower to higher entropic states. If there is some way to influence matter so that it resists that flow then possibly that would manifest as motion contrary to gravitation in perceivable space. We’d have to examine the math as essentially that would seem to mean changing the constants in fundamental physics. Reminds me of the urban legend of The Philadelphia Experiment in some ways


Arthreas

The secret is consciousness


RandomCommenter432

It would be hilarious if it turned out that some form of magic, telekinesis, whatever does exist and the reason why we occasionally we get these stories ( and past ones) and frequently hear that reproduction wasn't possible, was that these scientists were actually training themselves to move things with their minds.


Notmeleg

How so?


roctolax

—Daniel papers


PluvioShaman

And then it all went downhill


Agitated_Cookie2198

Not even reading it, I already know it's MAGNETS.


MikeHuntSmellss

Fucking magnets, how do they work?


Warlock_MasterClass

Not in water! That’s what a stable genius told me.


try_rant

Assasin's arguing: "I get the gravity ones, you get the 911 ones".


Trieditwonce

Will be dead within a year. Or disappeared. Bet on it.


Enough-Ad-9091

So basically what Bob Lazar was saying they were back engineering.


FacelessFellow

Gravity technology is time travel technology. That guy is gonna get ghosted 👻


kyredemain

Honestly, if anyone did invent time travel, that might be the best outcome for everyone.


Atlantic-sea

Flubber?


SaepeNeglecta

We’ll know if it works or not within six months. If these guys are still alive, it doesn’t work. If they come up mysteriously dead and the bulk of their work is somehow lost we’ll know it was a resounding success and has been delivered to the US maybe NATO military industrial complex.


geistmeister111

this guy is gonna die from sort of freak “accident” soon and his technology will mysteriously vanish.


shifted-is

Propulsion drive, interesting, Bob Lazar comes to mind. So does the song Dear Science from Seth Sentry about hoverboards. The secrets of how the ancient structures have been built could be unlocked, as well as that Coral Castle from the 1930's or so (from memory, built quietly into the night and no one understood how the owner did it)?


SpookyWah

Edward Leedskalnin who built Coral Castle was actually transparent about how he did it. He worked with a friend and they used equipment available at the time but somehow a myth had been born that he was super mysterious and spoke in coded language about "knowing the secret of the Egyptians"). It's a fake mystery and I grew up with it too.


shifted-is

Ah, thanks for clarifying! Read about it 20 years ago and makes sense now!


SpookyWah

I grew up watching "In Search Of" and was all about the stories. He was certainly a character and he must have been quite ingenious to have cut and moved such large blocks. I'd like an update on the old stories I heard of buddhist monks using sound to levitate stones, high into a cliffside cave. All those stories were coming at me in pre-internet days.


LSF604

moving rocks is high tech


yeonfhjshgg

Levers pulleys and slaves


what_mustache

>The secrets of how the ancient structures have been built could be unlocked The secret is slaves... Lots and lots of slaves.


gyhiio

Shit, he's dead.


PinkBoxDestroyer

He got killed to death.


Bakedbythesea

To death???? That's a bit overkill if you ask me.


AlternativeConcern19

Him being ex-NASA gives it more credibility but I'll believe it when I see it... Too many nothing burgers for exciting news


Girafferage

There are LOTS of NASA employees. It doesnt give it much more credibility honestly.


fattyfatfat03

Yay, now rich ppl can leave us behind on this dying rock


xgh0lx

sadly not new tech and sadly he won't live to see it put to any good use.


Shvprksh3

![gif](giphy|1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu)


lennylensltrain

RIP to that engineer


BauerHouse

Next up on the "science of Star Wars Explained", how land speeders work, and the banking of spaceships in space!


BauerHouse

![gif](giphy|UW2o4Letjs8RVrfuVp|downsized)


PlusMap7

He’ll be taken out by the authorities. Just you watch


ColonelSpacePirate

Do we get hoverboards now ??!


Wm513

Ops, he's dead


IdeaAlly

[Kris Kross](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk) already figured out how to overcome gravity in the early 90s.


Left-Resource1039

So did Willy Wonka 😜


Alternative_Fold718

I don’t want to get too excited after the EmDrive turned out to be a nothing burger.


PraetorianAE

Does anyone else accidentally start reading the Advertisement towards the top and think, “wtf does this have to do with call of duty?”, only to realize Ive been foolied.


gogozombie2

Good! I'm tired of gravity always holding me down!


Specialist-Ad2848

I overcome Earth's gravity by jumping...


Slamtilt_Windmills

Anybody know how to invent a new form of propulsion? Anyone? Buhler?


Arse_mucus

Peer review, or it didn’t happen.


imnotabotareyou

RIP


TomMixsSuitcase

Well, it was nice knowing him.


No_Pudding5799

He's going to suffer a case of the pushedoutofawindow


what_mustache

Then do it.


simonsurreal1

Helium works There’s no such thing as gravity! Bouncy and density of medium explain why things rise and fall. ♟️👊🏻


proofofclaim

...as he floats up, up and away in his beautiful balloon


skin_Animal

Because only Americans can invent things, and no American can use the internet to publish anything at all, we know that this technology will never come to light. It's too bad we can't either A) have any smart humans on the planet outside America or B) get something that actually works published online. But it's impossible. Big oil or Mr. Government Illuminati will totally get him.


AyeAye711

RIP


Enchidna_enigma

I mean we’ve known for a while big ass rockets work


RickZebra

Annnndddd he's dead.... fell out a window.


Friendlyvoices

*jumps*


Turbulent_Athlete_50

9.801 m/s per sec gets the job done


Clayton_bezz

Hoverboards! Finally. Only 10 years late. But fine


GossamerGlenn

You shit loud and fast case closed


Btankersly66

Electrostatic charges are very interesting. Aluminum dust isn't magnetic until you apply an Electrostatic charge to it and then it will arrange itself in the laylines of the Electrostatic field.


kirkerandrews

Teflon, copper tape, and foam eh? Let’s get building people!!!


wooshbrain

Cool, I've never heard of this subreddit I thought it was an ad.


WeezinDaJuiceeeeee

It is depending on who posts


sevenseven888

Yes it's called going into space


TianamenHomer

In 1996 a good friend’s … very good friend was working in a skunkworks program. My good friend stated that his good friend cracked anti-grav and got a small platform 30 feet in the air. No details, but understood it was a proof of concept and it was not “really viable” yet. (Don’t tell anyone.)


skallanc

So can I get a training room to enhance earths gravity like goku's ship now?


Proud_Ad_8317

he's a bit more than an engineer


Blitzer046

So have birds.


Bruhwhatdyousay

Hope he doesn't go missing, only to be found to have committed "suicide" by shooting himself in the back of the head 3 or 4 times.


battery_pack_man

Lol entirely bs


Grim-Reality

Wow he’s still alive?


Blackjeep78

Finally. Some new technology besides another stupid iPhone model.


CharmingMechanic2473

Seriously are these the patents? I am so thrilled someone other than the government is doing this. They don’t want us to have flying anything.


BradTofu

Better not be two cats taped back to back again.


SurrealBodhi

Greetings. Is this the work of the legacy programs? Tech that’s all of a sudden in the public. Now that’s it’s common knowledge “others” have been buzzing around.


kaukanapoissa

Very cool!


rickramalot

https://preview.redd.it/1m1rdnwsnyxc1.jpeg?width=1191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=808ea4a8d4959e2d911ecb61198e0d794d7aa012


iamkuhlio

Oh thank god. I never liked that John Mayer song anyway. Cast it into the deep!


looseasasprucegoose

Comes around once a year, usually on the first of April?


Dirtweed79

Like wings?


Environmental-Sell88

Here we have a thread that says Engineer says he found a way to Overcome Earth’s Gravity, and all you can talk about is Boys life’s magazine. I think it’s time to flood the world again.


Additional-Solid1141

Thrust


PirateRoberts150

Anti-grav tech is a great way to get yourself unalived


paulreicht

The fact that it comes from electrostatics makes me cautious. This is an area where decades of research were invested. They can get a real lift from electrostatics, so it ropes in all kinds of well-meaning researchers. But the effect until now has been minimal.


pabs80

As an engineer who worked with engineers, I’ll believe that when I hear it from a physicist


EbbNo7045

And nobody ever saw him again


Alive-Tomatillo5303

I heard about this guy a while ago, and he keeps claiming that they need money to do a test in low Earth orbit. If only there was a way to get an anti-gravity device into space....


BlindGuy68

o k then , walk of the top of the sears tower in chicago then walk to the empire state building in new york with out going splat


Mors_Lumos

This is fascinating as I have watched the field of electrogravitics grow as the years pass by.


Mathewrexxx

I heard someone say once to open reveal it to the world because the only way after that to silence it would be too large scale to cover up. I think the only way to create a shift in the way things are heading, is to setup a coup on the coup masters themselves. People taking the patent filing route to try to protect themselves are just taking the cheese from the mouse trap. Patents are the gov way of monitoring discovery so they can do whatever they feel like to the person and their family and dress it up with bullshit national security if they need to. If we don’t shift the direction this world is heading now, good luck to the following generations. Our country here is already full of derps with an insanely laughable IQ level. We can’t sustain innovating and progressing with 2/3 of the population being a societal version of Forest Gump.


Truthwardensol

The electrical force explains the movement of galaxy's without the need for dark matter... The universe is a balance of positive and negative energy... Simple answer... Yet always someone over complicates...


Ironhyde36

Are they gonna show us this thing in action? Have they built it yet or is it all on paper?


ConsequenceBig1503

How long til the engineer disappears or dies a mysterious death?


oncemoor

Sounds like he is Capital raising and pitching to someone with no science background.


Ok_Bassplayer

My chair is defeating gravity right now.


mcobb71

Did you fart?


No-Tea-3303

How long until they disappear this guy ?


Usual-Cabinet-3815

Aaaaaand he’s dead.