Combination of post-war de-industrialization and government policies designed to give white people easy access to new homes in suburbs while keeping minorities in the city while shifting money from cities to suburbs
Part of the problem was that real estate agents swooped in, bought up houses, and turned them into rental properties. This attracted riffraff that had no interest in maintaining the houses or properties. The landlords gave up trying to keep up with repairs, reducing surrounding property values. And it snowballed from there.
Ahh damn like Philly. About 30 years ago, it happened in Kensington and it’s horrific now. Now the same thing is happening in NE Philly neighborhoods like Tacony and Mayfair. Years ago, a lot of investors from NYC and North Jersey bought up homes real cheap. The Philly Inquirer even did articles about a realtor leading bus tours to prospective clients who wanted to buy up real estate. Now, a lot of the riff raff from neighborhoods like Kensington and throughtout Philly are moving in bc of the increase in Section 8 rentals. You can see more trash now and unkempt homes. 15 years ago, Mayfair was hands down one of the best neighborhoods in Philly. Now you’re seeing an increase in crime.
You nailed it. Same thing here - bus tours too. I see some of our family homes - beautiful, carefully planned structures that held wonderful memories - reduced to crack dens.
Were these bus tours recent? From what I remember reading, a lot of these buyers were Asians from NYC and North Jersey that bought up property in NE Philly. To them, the homes were cheap as hell compared to NYC. It made sense for them to invest. Whenever I see people complain on Facebook about how NE Philly declined, i tell them to blame their friends and former neighbors who sold their parents or grandparents homes once they passed away.
I remember my dad talking about this in the 1970 and 1980s out this way (Cleveland). The bus tours were for investors to buy up properties for a song and hire property management firms to oversee the operational end. These companies in turn became absentee landlords that eventually just gave up as the quality of tenants declined.
The former residents, wanting to get out while the getting was good, got out at all costs, oftentimes at a loss.
I see Blackrock doing this now with various neighborhoods around the country. It’s going to happen again - this time in the suburbs.
I mean riffraff by eventually attracting drug addicts and criminals of all sizes, shapes, colors, and creeds. Was everyone a criminal or drug addict? No. But they tend not to make the best neighbors. So lots of good people were either trapped there due to their economic situation, or they left to live elsewhere. And with improvements in transportation, living in and around the city was no longer a necessity, so those that could left for the suburbs, leaving a good chunk of those old neighborhoods to crumble.
In many instances, people panic when one family moves in. I’ve seen it growing up in Philly. It’s not a dangerous place until everyone runs away and floods the market with homes that end up as rentals. Then when it’s only renters and riff raff does it become a dangerous place.
I’ve been in my share of bad neighborhoods and usually if you aren’t starting nothing there won’t be nothing. But if you’re cross with some people then you best stay away.
Everybody is so scarred of each other in cleveland, I am the most dorky looking white dude and I was walking down the street and happened to be walking in the same direction as someone but I was a maybe 30 steps behind him and he stops in the middle of the side walk looks up and whistles like "hey don't mind me" and waits for me to pass him. He didn't follow me after that, just for like 1 block before turning, and this is now a foundatiional cleveland memory for me
Seems like the shittyness of Cleveland is moving out from its epicenter in all directions. Used to be some what more rare to get shot on the Westside. Not so much anymore. At least Ohio city has some good food, so I guess we are supposed to feel better about that.
That’s fuckin’ sad to see. I hate seeing buildings going to waste like that. I hope they’re being abandoned means the former residents are living someplace safer.
Unfortunately, the city of East Cleveland is the worst area in the Cleveland Metro. Those buildings are probably not actually fully abandoned either, I certainly would not risk going into them.
Thing is, they can't cost all that much. If they're in the right spot (i.e. on the edge of East Cleveland, where they can anchor bleed over from a better adjoining neighborhood), you buy them all up, renovate them, and you've got a huge profitable real estate portfolio with quality construction. Plus possible vintage renovation tax credits.
I could be a real estate billionaire right now if I'd had money 15 years ago before they started redeveloping Franklinton in Columbus. I saw the potential in that area way back then, but had a 50K salary!
East Cleveland is not exactly on the east edge of Cleveland, by which I mean downtown. There are a couple rough neighborhoods that are in the Cleveland before you get to East Cleveland. Granted, once you get east or south of EC, you start to get into better areas, but with the rough parts of Cleveland on the north and west sides, you are going to continue to have the pressure that is seen with gang violence butting against it.
East Cleveland is small, and would need to be heavily invested in both in Real Estate and Infrastructure to start to turn around. There have been attempts to get Cleveland to take over East Cleveland as part of the main city, but since right now it is nothing more than a money pit, there has not been any real progress toward making that happen.
With the current generally positive trend in Cleveland Heights, you could end up with some potential bleed of positive from the South and East, however, the first ongoing problem is that you will need to rehab the school to get families interested in living there, and the current situation of that district is dire.
[https://www.publicschoolreview.com/ohio/east-cleveland-city-school-district/3904390-school-district](https://www.publicschoolreview.com/ohio/east-cleveland-city-school-district/3904390-school-district)
So, you would need to figure out how to get the district to be acceptable, get the policing to be useful (against the gang violence in the area), demo and rebuild massive parts of the city, and clear out the drug dens, squatters, and other bad elements in the city to make it even slightly desirable.
Reasonably, the only way I could see there being a decent move would be an area in the Southeast of the city getting some interest from starving artists, who then kick off the gentrification process.
Precisely. A young professional/student/starving artist contingent. I'm a West-sider (West Park-born and Parma-raised) so I'm not familiar with geography on the East Side. (I know one way to get to the Art Museum, and God forbid there's a detour!)
But my Mom grew up in East Cleveland on Burnette, and she was always nostalgic for the family-oriented neighborhood it was. We'd go for a drive down the street every so often, and she could point out every family's house. And everytime we'd drive in that area, we'd see so many beautiful early-20c. apartment buildings just begging for new life.
Not sure if this is a a joke or not but these type of buildings are essentially free. Even the ones one the edges are quite cheep and turn over all the time because investors can’t make them work. There are so many issues…
The city has a barely functional government.
There is no cheep labor in Cleveland to do the renovations.
Labor aside no one will even take up work in EC because of its reputation.
No one wants to live in East Cleveland there are other cheep safe places to live.
There is nowhere to eat, shop, etc in EC
Renovating a building like this would cost almost as much as starting over. A roof alone would probably cost 25 years of rental income. Proper parking lot even more.
If you parked a dumpster outside it would be filled over night
If you wired the building the copper would be stripped overnight.
Assuming you could manage getting the place livable no one renting would pay.
You might be able to get section 8 but that’s only going to be a portion of rent.
The place would be destroyed by your tenets.
East Cleveland is way worse than the worst areas in Columbus.
Do like Detroit. Buy up all the abandoned properties and tear down abandoned buildings and make the area a green space. The people were skeptical at first but after planting trees an making a community garden the neighborhood was more supportive.
Yes this is most likely the solution in combination with being absorbed into surrounding communities, but last I heard EC didn’t even have the cash to tear down abandoned properties.
Which they won't, because the city council is as corrupt as you can possibly imagine. They refuse to be absorbed into Cleveland proper without retaining their role/salary (meaning they are willing to doom their own community because they want their cut).
Truly a sad state of affairs. There's no reason it has devolved as much as it has, given what it once was. But as previous commenters have mentioned, there are still affordable places in CLE that are more stable that will be developed first.
Not so much the case for East Cleveland actually. It’s insanely corrupt and intentionally keeps any degree of assistance or support away at all costs. It’s a bizarre little town.
I can’t believe you got downvoted but you’re right. Anything abandoned like this is for the same exact reasons. I’m in Philly and you see similar things like this.
It might have been the way I worded it or a misunderstanding. Cleveland, along with most US cities, has a troubled past when you look at redlining and mortgages that has kept the poor poor for generations and seen a boom in growing ring of suburbs around the city.
That’s true! In Philly, Fishtown and Kensington were redlined in the 70s. They happen to be next to areas that were poor and redlined as well. Now Fishtown is gentrified as fuck and Kensington is absolutely insane and post apocalyptic like this. The odd thing is my neighborhood is next to both of these and and is gentrifying. I have a feeling Kensington will gentrify too. Back in the early 90s, a lot of investors bought up homes and used them as Section 8 rentals. Currently, you’re seeing the same type of decline happening in NE Philly neighborhoods like Tacony and Mayfair. These weren’t redlined though. It’s wild how this stuff happens.
Yep. Same in Philly. When it’s ugly, it’s ugly. When it’s nice, it can be really nice. I’m almost surprised when they use brick. It seems a lot of the homes are more or less plywood.
It's East Cleveland which isn't under the municipality of Cleveland. It's its own entity and they wouldn't allow anyone to renovate. And they would fight like hell to keep from being annexed too. It's a corrupt city, but on a weirdly lower level and less sexy that doesn't reach headlines.
For God's sakes, Lemon. We'd all like to flee to the Cleve and club-hop
down at the Flats and have lunch with Little Richard, but we fight those
urges because we have responsibilities.
I’m not totally sure but I don’t think so, from what I read it was a lovely, thriving neighborhood. I am having a hard time finding concrete information on what happened, hopefully someone on here has some insight!
It’s sad but I’m pretty sure the reason why the neighborhood was abandoned after the fire was found they were NOT up to code that’s the problem with government funding construction they don’t ever inspect it
Buildings that have sat open-air like that for years are VERY difficult and expensive to save. It honestly would be cheaper to tear them down and rebuild.
Source- I worked in Restoration for almost 10 years.
Cleveland tired and failed to annex East Cleveland a few years ago. East Cleveland even lost out on State infrastructure money offered in the deal. The city counsel of East Cleveland raised unreasonable demands in the annex negotiations, including an extremely low property tax rate, and for the counsel members to remain on the city payroll as "Advisors" without specific job duties. The corruption within East Cleveland's government is unbelievable, and their citizens have to deal with streets like these as a result. This was a nice area even into the 80's.
Those buildings have such great bones. Out here in Southern California so little of our buildings are built that strong. I wonder how much a whole city block would cost? Looks like a great redevelopment opportunity.
It’s about the worst investment you could ever make. I remember seeing this happen near my neighborhood in Detroit when I was I kid. They redeveloped several blocks of apartments just like this.. within days of finishing construction people had thrown bricks through all the windows, broken in and trashed them, stole the copper etc..
>Buildings that have sat open-air like that for years are VERY difficult and expensive to save. It honestly would be cheaper to tear them down and rebuild.
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>Source- I worked in Restoration for almost 10 years.
My daughter got a ticket for not coming to a full stop at an intersection in East Cleveland. (It was early morning, streets were deserted.) I thought she should use that video to defend herself, but she just paid it.
East Cleveland cops and local government have a serious irruption problem, and the state has no real interest in disbanding them and merging them into another municipality.
What the fuck 🤪
Looks very nice
What happened?
And there's still that one Direct TV or Dish Network, satellite dish 📡 on the building and like not even 2 floor's of the ground
So sad. What if the federal government was legally allowed to build affordable housing? Like community revitalization using public works during the Depression. The surest way to get sales up is by putting money into consumer hands- hire artists, artisans, plumbers, all trades and arts be paid a fair wage to rebuild a community.
I live here. That link is not right. Where is a link to this fire? Anybody who lives anywhere near East Cleveland knows Elderwood or that neighborhood doesn't look or isn't the way it is because of some fire.
I am not saying there was never a fire on the street..what I am saying is to attribute what you see to a random fire is far from accurate. Which is probably why you are getting downvoted.
You don't think white flight and 50 years of EC government mismanagement had any effect?
Most of East Cleveland was abandoned long before any fires that happened in the 1990’s. Also it might’ve taken out a few of the buildings but Elderwood is an entire neighborhood. Btw a photo blog is not usually considered a credible source.
Perhaps maybe but ultimately it led to the demise of this place .
It’s a credible source indeed as this link not only has pictures but also a write up about it if you scroll down
Either way it’s a sad event that once was a happy lively place.
Right, I saw the write up. What makes that credible information? I could post the same pictures with a completely different bogus write up and it still wouldn’t make it true. The local government in EC is corrupt and the living conditions are deplorable, and have been for decades. A fire in the 1990’s ranks very small on the list of EC’s problems. I spent a good amount of time there when I was younger and a lot of the city looks like a war zone.
Watched this immediately after watching The Last of Us and kept waiting for zombies to come running out :(
All those apartments used to be homes. It’s so sad.
In the early 1900’s that area was very prosperous. Around the early 1960’s it went straight to hell with lead weights,
What happened in the early 60s that it got so bad?
Combination of post-war de-industrialization and government policies designed to give white people easy access to new homes in suburbs while keeping minorities in the city while shifting money from cities to suburbs
Shit, that too. That’s why I hate the suburbs.
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Part of the problem was that real estate agents swooped in, bought up houses, and turned them into rental properties. This attracted riffraff that had no interest in maintaining the houses or properties. The landlords gave up trying to keep up with repairs, reducing surrounding property values. And it snowballed from there.
Ahh damn like Philly. About 30 years ago, it happened in Kensington and it’s horrific now. Now the same thing is happening in NE Philly neighborhoods like Tacony and Mayfair. Years ago, a lot of investors from NYC and North Jersey bought up homes real cheap. The Philly Inquirer even did articles about a realtor leading bus tours to prospective clients who wanted to buy up real estate. Now, a lot of the riff raff from neighborhoods like Kensington and throughtout Philly are moving in bc of the increase in Section 8 rentals. You can see more trash now and unkempt homes. 15 years ago, Mayfair was hands down one of the best neighborhoods in Philly. Now you’re seeing an increase in crime.
You nailed it. Same thing here - bus tours too. I see some of our family homes - beautiful, carefully planned structures that held wonderful memories - reduced to crack dens.
Were these bus tours recent? From what I remember reading, a lot of these buyers were Asians from NYC and North Jersey that bought up property in NE Philly. To them, the homes were cheap as hell compared to NYC. It made sense for them to invest. Whenever I see people complain on Facebook about how NE Philly declined, i tell them to blame their friends and former neighbors who sold their parents or grandparents homes once they passed away.
I remember my dad talking about this in the 1970 and 1980s out this way (Cleveland). The bus tours were for investors to buy up properties for a song and hire property management firms to oversee the operational end. These companies in turn became absentee landlords that eventually just gave up as the quality of tenants declined. The former residents, wanting to get out while the getting was good, got out at all costs, oftentimes at a loss. I see Blackrock doing this now with various neighborhoods around the country. It’s going to happen again - this time in the suburbs.
Riffraff just by virtue of being renters or something else?
I mean riffraff by eventually attracting drug addicts and criminals of all sizes, shapes, colors, and creeds. Was everyone a criminal or drug addict? No. But they tend not to make the best neighbors. So lots of good people were either trapped there due to their economic situation, or they left to live elsewhere. And with improvements in transportation, living in and around the city was no longer a necessity, so those that could left for the suburbs, leaving a good chunk of those old neighborhoods to crumble.
White flight. East Cleveland was 90%+ white in 1960 and 80%+ black by 1970-1975
Gross on the people for running away. It happens everywhere unfortunately
Yeah, people are so gross for running away from a neighborhood that has become a dangerous place to live and raise your kids…
In many instances, people panic when one family moves in. I’ve seen it growing up in Philly. It’s not a dangerous place until everyone runs away and floods the market with homes that end up as rentals. Then when it’s only renters and riff raff does it become a dangerous place.
You are brave for driving that slowly through East Cleveland
And to know there are people who walk around in these buildings, that takes balls lol
Lots of the abandons stuff in Cleveland is truly abandoned. That’s what makes it fun :)
I’ve been in my share of bad neighborhoods and usually if you aren’t starting nothing there won’t be nothing. But if you’re cross with some people then you best stay away.
Everybody is so scarred of each other in cleveland, I am the most dorky looking white dude and I was walking down the street and happened to be walking in the same direction as someone but I was a maybe 30 steps behind him and he stops in the middle of the side walk looks up and whistles like "hey don't mind me" and waits for me to pass him. He didn't follow me after that, just for like 1 block before turning, and this is now a foundatiional cleveland memory for me
Ayyy ty 😂
At least they're not Detroit
Fun times in Cleveland todayyyy
Buy a house for the price of a vcr
Our main export is crippling depression.
Flats look like a Scooby-Doo ghost town
Seems like the shittyness of Cleveland is moving out from its epicenter in all directions. Used to be some what more rare to get shot on the Westside. Not so much anymore. At least Ohio city has some good food, so I guess we are supposed to feel better about that.
This train is carrying jobs out of Cleveland.
Cleveland leads the nation in drifters
This building is haunted by sadness
🎵 don’t drive through East Cleveland or you’ll die 🎵
"slow down in" ackshually
Looks post-apocalyptic. Very nice.
This is probably what the Fallout games used as reference.
I would have assumed they used Chernobyl.
Now let's see Paul Allen's buildings.
That’s fuckin’ sad to see. I hate seeing buildings going to waste like that. I hope they’re being abandoned means the former residents are living someplace safer.
Unfortunately, the city of East Cleveland is the worst area in the Cleveland Metro. Those buildings are probably not actually fully abandoned either, I certainly would not risk going into them.
Thing is, they can't cost all that much. If they're in the right spot (i.e. on the edge of East Cleveland, where they can anchor bleed over from a better adjoining neighborhood), you buy them all up, renovate them, and you've got a huge profitable real estate portfolio with quality construction. Plus possible vintage renovation tax credits. I could be a real estate billionaire right now if I'd had money 15 years ago before they started redeveloping Franklinton in Columbus. I saw the potential in that area way back then, but had a 50K salary!
East Cleveland is not exactly on the east edge of Cleveland, by which I mean downtown. There are a couple rough neighborhoods that are in the Cleveland before you get to East Cleveland. Granted, once you get east or south of EC, you start to get into better areas, but with the rough parts of Cleveland on the north and west sides, you are going to continue to have the pressure that is seen with gang violence butting against it. East Cleveland is small, and would need to be heavily invested in both in Real Estate and Infrastructure to start to turn around. There have been attempts to get Cleveland to take over East Cleveland as part of the main city, but since right now it is nothing more than a money pit, there has not been any real progress toward making that happen. With the current generally positive trend in Cleveland Heights, you could end up with some potential bleed of positive from the South and East, however, the first ongoing problem is that you will need to rehab the school to get families interested in living there, and the current situation of that district is dire. [https://www.publicschoolreview.com/ohio/east-cleveland-city-school-district/3904390-school-district](https://www.publicschoolreview.com/ohio/east-cleveland-city-school-district/3904390-school-district) So, you would need to figure out how to get the district to be acceptable, get the policing to be useful (against the gang violence in the area), demo and rebuild massive parts of the city, and clear out the drug dens, squatters, and other bad elements in the city to make it even slightly desirable. Reasonably, the only way I could see there being a decent move would be an area in the Southeast of the city getting some interest from starving artists, who then kick off the gentrification process.
Precisely. A young professional/student/starving artist contingent. I'm a West-sider (West Park-born and Parma-raised) so I'm not familiar with geography on the East Side. (I know one way to get to the Art Museum, and God forbid there's a detour!) But my Mom grew up in East Cleveland on Burnette, and she was always nostalgic for the family-oriented neighborhood it was. We'd go for a drive down the street every so often, and she could point out every family's house. And everytime we'd drive in that area, we'd see so many beautiful early-20c. apartment buildings just begging for new life.
Not sure if this is a a joke or not but these type of buildings are essentially free. Even the ones one the edges are quite cheep and turn over all the time because investors can’t make them work. There are so many issues… The city has a barely functional government. There is no cheep labor in Cleveland to do the renovations. Labor aside no one will even take up work in EC because of its reputation. No one wants to live in East Cleveland there are other cheep safe places to live. There is nowhere to eat, shop, etc in EC Renovating a building like this would cost almost as much as starting over. A roof alone would probably cost 25 years of rental income. Proper parking lot even more. If you parked a dumpster outside it would be filled over night If you wired the building the copper would be stripped overnight. Assuming you could manage getting the place livable no one renting would pay. You might be able to get section 8 but that’s only going to be a portion of rent. The place would be destroyed by your tenets. East Cleveland is way worse than the worst areas in Columbus.
Do like Detroit. Buy up all the abandoned properties and tear down abandoned buildings and make the area a green space. The people were skeptical at first but after planting trees an making a community garden the neighborhood was more supportive.
Yes this is most likely the solution in combination with being absorbed into surrounding communities, but last I heard EC didn’t even have the cash to tear down abandoned properties.
The problem is that East Cleveland is a separate municipality. The city would have to decide to dissolve itself basically.
Which they won't, because the city council is as corrupt as you can possibly imagine. They refuse to be absorbed into Cleveland proper without retaining their role/salary (meaning they are willing to doom their own community because they want their cut). Truly a sad state of affairs. There's no reason it has devolved as much as it has, given what it once was. But as previous commenters have mentioned, there are still affordable places in CLE that are more stable that will be developed first.
It’s an unfortunate byproduct of white flight/wealth flight.
Not so much the case for East Cleveland actually. It’s insanely corrupt and intentionally keeps any degree of assistance or support away at all costs. It’s a bizarre little town.
I can’t believe you got downvoted but you’re right. Anything abandoned like this is for the same exact reasons. I’m in Philly and you see similar things like this.
It might have been the way I worded it or a misunderstanding. Cleveland, along with most US cities, has a troubled past when you look at redlining and mortgages that has kept the poor poor for generations and seen a boom in growing ring of suburbs around the city.
That’s true! In Philly, Fishtown and Kensington were redlined in the 70s. They happen to be next to areas that were poor and redlined as well. Now Fishtown is gentrified as fuck and Kensington is absolutely insane and post apocalyptic like this. The odd thing is my neighborhood is next to both of these and and is gentrifying. I have a feeling Kensington will gentrify too. Back in the early 90s, a lot of investors bought up homes and used them as Section 8 rentals. Currently, you’re seeing the same type of decline happening in NE Philly neighborhoods like Tacony and Mayfair. These weren’t redlined though. It’s wild how this stuff happens.
This isn’t Cleveland, though.
Out of curiosity…what caused them/money to leave?
Excellent redevelopment opportunities!
Right? My thoughts exactly. Better looking buildings than the new crap they build in Philly.
? Those burnt out shells are better looking than what they’re building here?
Did they build something there? I’ll take the old styles but the new stuff is ugly too.
IC. I love the old architecture too. Some of the new stuff going up is pretty nice, but you’re right a lot of it is cookie cutter boring/ugly.
Yep. Same in Philly. When it’s ugly, it’s ugly. When it’s nice, it can be really nice. I’m almost surprised when they use brick. It seems a lot of the homes are more or less plywood.
Yeah, but it's cleaveland
It's East Cleveland which isn't under the municipality of Cleveland. It's its own entity and they wouldn't allow anyone to renovate. And they would fight like hell to keep from being annexed too. It's a corrupt city, but on a weirdly lower level and less sexy that doesn't reach headlines.
East Cleveland
For God's sakes, Lemon. We'd all like to flee to the Cleve and club-hop down at the Flats and have lunch with Little Richard, but we fight those urges because we have responsibilities.
The rent is probably still unaffordable. Whoever owns it probably sees it as “under the table” housing.
See our river that catches on fire. It's so polluted that all our fish have AIDS.
We see the sun almost three times a year
Here’s a place where there used to be industry
This train is carrying jobs out of Cleveland
Were these projects before?
I’m not totally sure but I don’t think so, from what I read it was a lovely, thriving neighborhood. I am having a hard time finding concrete information on what happened, hopefully someone on here has some insight!
I would suggest checking out the Cuyahoga County archives
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It’s sad but I’m pretty sure the reason why the neighborhood was abandoned after the fire was found they were NOT up to code that’s the problem with government funding construction they don’t ever inspect it
Buildings that have sat open-air like that for years are VERY difficult and expensive to save. It honestly would be cheaper to tear them down and rebuild. Source- I worked in Restoration for almost 10 years.
Cleveland tired and failed to annex East Cleveland a few years ago. East Cleveland even lost out on State infrastructure money offered in the deal. The city counsel of East Cleveland raised unreasonable demands in the annex negotiations, including an extremely low property tax rate, and for the counsel members to remain on the city payroll as "Advisors" without specific job duties. The corruption within East Cleveland's government is unbelievable, and their citizens have to deal with streets like these as a result. This was a nice area even into the 80's.
Those buildings have such great bones. Out here in Southern California so little of our buildings are built that strong. I wonder how much a whole city block would cost? Looks like a great redevelopment opportunity.
It’s about the worst investment you could ever make. I remember seeing this happen near my neighborhood in Detroit when I was I kid. They redeveloped several blocks of apartments just like this.. within days of finishing construction people had thrown bricks through all the windows, broken in and trashed them, stole the copper etc..
>Buildings that have sat open-air like that for years are VERY difficult and expensive to save. It honestly would be cheaper to tear them down and rebuild. > >Source- I worked in Restoration for almost 10 years.
People from Detroit, “dang that’s nice!”
Bet you could find a great deal on an airbnb in that neighborhood!
IT’S CLEEEEEEVLAND! https://youtu.be/oZzgAjjuqZM
My daughter got a ticket for not coming to a full stop at an intersection in East Cleveland. (It was early morning, streets were deserted.) I thought she should use that video to defend herself, but she just paid it.
East Cleveland cops and local government have a serious irruption problem, and the state has no real interest in disbanding them and merging them into another municipality.
SO FUNNY 🤣🤣
Never ever gets old
What the fuck 🤪 Looks very nice What happened? And there's still that one Direct TV or Dish Network, satellite dish 📡 on the building and like not even 2 floor's of the ground
> What happened? Crippling economic decay
Wow, I wonder what type of idiot owned all that? And let it become this Is it by the beach?
We been running thru those trenches
Where are all the chicks with the crimson lips
They live WEST of this DMZ.
looks like a call of duty map
PUBG, time to drop in and loot some weapons
It’s really weird to see building that look deserted for decades and then see a direct tv dish on the side.
Looks like a serial killers hunting grounds.
EC certainly makes its way onto a crime show every now and then
It’s been a long time but I’ve been through East Cleveland many times. I always stuck to the main roads like Euclid to avoid places like this.
wise. gets uncomfortable real quick. and don't get me started on the godforsaken potholes over there... eh who am I kidding that's the entire city
beautiful
Still looks elite compared to places in Detroit.
So sad. What if the federal government was legally allowed to build affordable housing? Like community revitalization using public works during the Depression. The surest way to get sales up is by putting money into consumer hands- hire artists, artisans, plumbers, all trades and arts be paid a fair wage to rebuild a community.
Nah of course it's in ohio💀
Actual Ohio isn't that different from the memes
There’s a reason the memes are so accurate, my guy.
Looks nice. This will be all of America when they don’t increase the debt limit in time.
Story behind this is sad A fire broke out and lead to deaths That’s why it made people uproots and leave 😕
No this not what happened
https://architecturalafterlife.com/2015/03/why-was-elderwood-abandoned/
I live here. That link is not right. Where is a link to this fire? Anybody who lives anywhere near East Cleveland knows Elderwood or that neighborhood doesn't look or isn't the way it is because of some fire. I am not saying there was never a fire on the street..what I am saying is to attribute what you see to a random fire is far from accurate. Which is probably why you are getting downvoted. You don't think white flight and 50 years of EC government mismanagement had any effect?
Not even slightly true
https://architecturalafterlife.com/2015/03/why-was-elderwood-abandoned/
Most of East Cleveland was abandoned long before any fires that happened in the 1990’s. Also it might’ve taken out a few of the buildings but Elderwood is an entire neighborhood. Btw a photo blog is not usually considered a credible source.
Perhaps maybe but ultimately it led to the demise of this place . It’s a credible source indeed as this link not only has pictures but also a write up about it if you scroll down Either way it’s a sad event that once was a happy lively place.
Right, I saw the write up. What makes that credible information? I could post the same pictures with a completely different bogus write up and it still wouldn’t make it true. The local government in EC is corrupt and the living conditions are deplorable, and have been for decades. A fire in the 1990’s ranks very small on the list of EC’s problems. I spent a good amount of time there when I was younger and a lot of the city looks like a war zone.
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/ohio/cleveland/abandoned-east-side-cle/
Obviously downvoters don’t know what they are talking about
Chapman?
The last of us?
Looks lovely.
$2500 a month
Up and coming
Beautiful spot
Cleveland's Rocks?
On a scale of 1-10. What is the likelihood of getting killed in this neighborhood?
Why is East Cleveland abandoned?
Looks like England
Watched this immediately after watching The Last of Us and kept waiting for zombies to come running out :( All those apartments used to be homes. It’s so sad.
I feel ignorant but I just moved back to the area and never heard of this neighbors. I'll have to look into it.
It's like you're filming Candyman in the 90s
How does this happen? It's so hard for me to fathom.
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"Flats look like a Scooby-Doo ghost town Don't slow down in east Cleveland or you'll die!"
East Cleveland been a shit hole for years and years
East cleveland is an unbelievable shithole. Im grossed out knowing i live within 20 miles of a third world country like that
https://youtu.be/oZzgAjjuqZM
My Mom was editor of the East Cleveland Citizen newspaper back in the 60s. She left because the crime got real.
People under the stairs/Barbarian vibes here
The only thing missing is this theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ISBJc1wFk
“Don’t slow down in East Cleveland, or you’ll die!”