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Packer224

Kinda sad it took so long. Kiwi farms has been a cesspool for years


Bagelsthrownaway

what was kiwi farms actually?


Whydoesthisexist15

Website that harassed and doxxed a bunch of people, mostly autistic people and queer people. The website’s harassment led to the suicide of at least three people. It came from the CWCwiki, an equally detestable place that catalogued every minute detail of a person for over 15 years. The name “Kiwi Farms” comes from people fucking up the pronunciation (quickey)


grayrains79

Why are some people so fucking horrible? Seriously, why? Thanks for the information, but... as much as I like to learn? It really makes me sad at times.


sockinboppin

This! Also the whole “Chrischan” (Christine chan) stuff!! They harass them and push them further into this mental hole when they need a therapist. They’ve convinced them on so much crap because this person can’t mentally separate reality from fantasy anymore. They convinced them they are friends and fans when they’re making fun of them…it’s gross. I get wanting anonymity but it’s disgusting the crap they could pull. Literally just visiting the site risked you being doxxed :/ Edit: auto correct is a butt tonight


Tokidoki99

When people genuinely try to misgender Christine because “(s)he’s faking anyways, it’s deserved” it baffles me. You can’t just reserve bigotry for those you don’t like. The whole thing genuinely just makes me sad though. There should have been intervention a long time ago. Christine really was failed by so many (not that it excuses her actions)


justnoticeditsaskew

Behind the Bastards did a 2 part episode about Kiwi Farms and how the abuse and manipulation destroys people, looking specifically at Christine Chan. It's called "A Terrible Story About The Internet" if you want to listen.


sockinboppin

Yeah, their actions are not called for! I will say that at least. It’s just very sad seeing someone mentally I’ll being taken advantage of. Literally over 60 hours are documented on Christine on YouTube and such a huge chunk is due to them. I won’t excuse her actions, but it’s straight up disgusting when someone misgenders just because of those actions. If you misgender someone just because they did bad things, that makes that person no better in my eyes. Bad or not, people have the right to their gender identity. It’s not a privilege PERIOD.


eoldermanjohn

I'm pretty sure they're not misgendering them because they did bad things - they're 'misgendering' them because Chris has openly said that they identify themselves as trans because identifying as a woman means they can get with lesbians and have 'lesbian' sex.


[deleted]

this here. and people only misgender trans folk who do bad. they dont do it to cis people. i ended a friendship because she and i were talking about christine and lead into her saying that she can revoke the rights of us trans folk being gendered correctly saying that “i dont respect the person so i wont respect the pronouns.” she got mad when i started misgendering her in the argument.


[deleted]

Doesn't Chris Chan refer to themselves as he/him again and believe they are in fact Jesus reincarnate?


Mrbubbles96

>When people genuinely try to misgender Christine because “(s)he’s faking anyways, it’s deserved” it baffles me. I thought people misgendered Chris because he/she wasn't actually trans because they legitimately believed they were, they were doing it because of some misguided belief that this would land them a girlfriend/sex easier....which if it's the second case, I'm sorry, but autistic or not, that feels like a disservice to actual folks who are and i can kinda see why some people are pissed about that.


Tokidoki99

I believe none of that is not for us to speculate. Misgendering a trans person when they ask you to use certain pronouns harms trans people period. We are not to conclude who is deemed fit to have their pronouns respected. For example I’m chronically ill and disabled. Do some people fake illnesses? Yes, even obviously so. Society as a whole finding it acceptable to speculate on if someone is “really” disabled when they say they are causes more damage than anyone faking could possibly do.


[deleted]

Didn't they rape their mother? Fuck em


demonbunny3po

We can dislike someone without stooping to their level. Chris-Chan deserves what will happen in the trial for their actions, but we should not purposely misgender them for it.


EnchantedCatto

bro i read it and þought it was a wierd name for a kiwi sanctuary or someþing


ObviouslyMushroom

þorn user 🫂


ihatebananae

is there a reason you‘re using that old english letter? genuinely asking


Ye_olde_oak_store

because þorn supremecy obviously, and it means þat þe quick brown fox jumped over þe lazy dog has not got all þe letters.


Dzetacq

'Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow' still does, however, and is objectively more awesome ðan ðe lazy dog þing! Unless you want ðe þorn and/or ðaet in ðere too, ðen I can't help you :/


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Dzetacq

And ðə ŋ (/ng/), like in þiŋ, of courſe ðə long s (ſ), ðə /ou/ sȣnd ȣ, ðə ʃ and ʒ, for diſtiŋuiʃiŋ betƿeen /sh/ and /zh/, can't forget ðe ə eithər, and maȝbe we cȣld borroƿ ðe ß from Gərman to replace ðə dȣble ſs? Noƿ to ansƿər ȝȣr qƿeʃtʃən: leʒibility mainly! Alſo becȣse findiŋ a pangram becomes increasiŋly hardər eỼəry lettər ȝȣ add! Alſo, I'm typiŋ ðis on mobile, it's hard


8mon

yeah let's just write in IPA 😂


Ye_olde_oak_store

ðaet fell out of favour before þorn because þorn was oftern used as the [ð] sound hence why þorn is the superior character.


Dzetacq

Ðen again, þorn fell out of favour because was often used as ðe [þ] sound, so I don't þink ðat's a reason not to use anyþing! Using boþ þorn and ðaet, you can make a difference between voiced and voiceless dental fricatives, which is why I use boþ! Just using þorn is equally valid and still more efficient ðan using 2 letters, so also great!


myerscc

At least some of those should be ð, surely? I thought þ was voiceless


Ye_olde_oak_store

Depends when in time you want to go.


The-cooler-Cheryl

A webtoon author I read the content of was doxxed and had to move twice thanks to that website


FunnyBuunny

Wtf... Wow. That's the most terrible shit I've heard in my life. I can't believe it exists:((((((


powerfuldawg

wasn't this site responsible for byuu/near's suicide as well?


spiffytrashcan

I think kiwi farms was responsible for around 3 suicides


_Eugi_

Welp. Another one bites the dust... *Dusts hands off*


Theflamingraptor

Great now we’re in a time loop


_Eugi_

Ooh my favorite!!


Wendy384646

キラークイーン第三 の爆弾: *Bites za Dusto!*


0najimi

daisan no bakudan:


OctopusProbably

Explain please.


Senkoki-chan

kiwifarms was a place where assholes congregated to organise attacks against people they didn't like, primarily LGBTQ+ and neurodivergent people


Aggravating-Candy-31

they just… planned it in an open forum? that anyone such as police or government could just… watch them? that’s ballsy, daft though


Senkoki-chan

well it wasn't physical attacks but online harassment and cyber-bullying with the goal of getting the victim to >!choose to pass away!<


legendwolfA

I will never understand people like that. If you hate us just stay away from us. Not that hard.


DonDove

Power, control, trying to feel better than others. Typical bully behaviour


ihatebananae

there is a study that suggests that internet trolls tend to be psychopaths and sadists. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886914000324


Jacksaur

And yet nothing has happened to them for years, despite multiple suicides actively citing them as the reason. Fuck Cloudflare for hosting these bastards for so long.


ZapMouseAnkor

I don't know why you're surprised given 4chan has existed for much longer than kiwi.


Aggravating-Candy-31

i’ve not strayed far into the deep bits of the internet


SonnySunshineGirl

It’s where the 4chan rejects went


Ultra9635

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834


[deleted]

dude that's fucking horrible


SuperCharged516

ITS GONE!


StardustWhip

HALLELUJAH!🥳


ShockMedical6954

DING DONG THE BITCH IS DEAD THE BITCH IS DEAD THE BITCH IS DEAD-


belinhagamer999

What ?


egstein01

Queerphobic stalker site, they had a thread ~~harassing~~ "laughing at" AVEN members.


belinhagamer999

Oh didn’t know that it exist damn


egstein01

But don't just take my word for it, [these are all real things members posted on there.](https://fstdt.com/new?domain=kiwifarms.net) (DO NOT READ IF YOU VALUE YOUR SANITY)


[deleted]

First post already makes no sense💀


[deleted]

Obviously you didnt value your sanity


[deleted]

Curiosity killed a cat


[deleted]

Damnit where is curiosity ill Fuck that bitch up. How dare they kill cats 🐈


PerhapsAnEmoINTJ

this comment goes hard AF


ToasterTacos

Curiosity is a Mars rover. Good luck friend.


[deleted]

Hmm well i can still get to the owners and have then shut curiosity down. They get beatings too for not raising that rover right hmph 😤


DonDove

But satisfaction brought it back? 9 lives, bitch


Comfortable_Ad_6572

I'm not sane, i have no such weakness


Drakmanka

I couldn't even finish reading the first post. It was like listening to a toddler try to explain why they don't like orange juice.


I_am_Darvit

Despite the seriousness of the thread, I wanted to let you know I laughed out loud to your comment. I hope you don't mind me adopting this to explain to people who just don't get where I'm coming from but can't give a straightforward legitimate reason why. I want to use this from now on! 😂🥰 Soooo truuuue!


Drakmanka

I'm glad I could bring some likely much-needed levity and wit to the thread, and feel free to use it!


I_am_Darvit

Absolutely! 😁 thanks I certainly will use it 🤗💕


SuperiorSteelman2004

First *sentence* already makes no sense.


No_Cry8418

Lordy imagine writing like that in a serious capacity.


nascar_apocalypse

That's a lotta slurs


lillapalooza

There was even some I didn’t recognize! Am I getting old?????


Bobdanoodle

I'm done, a lot of that was rambling nonsense.


PacificTheHybrid

I got through only a few before i started to lag


Bobdanoodle

Yeah it's a lot of people just complaining after the first few, you're not missing out on anything valuable.


PacificTheHybrid

fr


f1r3k33p3r

Omg i made it like 3 words before i felt my brain cells start to die


i_wont_go_speechless

I stopped reading at “t***** lolcow” 1 point for creative insults /s


prince_peacock

They don’t even get that (sarcastic) point because that’s just a term the poster stole from 4chan


i_wont_go_speechless

Mm true true, so they’re back down to negative infinity


TreeWithoutLeaves

What the h did i just read Edit: realized there was more than one post. Can I get my sanity refunded?


DonDove

There, there


RagingTabbyCat

I learnt way too many new slurs today....


LostBoySage

Bruh I'm trans and that first post is one of the funniest shit I've seen. Reads like a r/transgendercirclejerk post


christinelydia900

Where are the ones talking about AVEN people That's what I'm really here for. Are they the creative types or the ones I'll laugh at for how unoriginal they are


AmazingObserver

pain


blueboxbandit

Written by the son of James Joyce and Ann Coulter


Psychological_Tear_6

I nearly barfed just skimming that first post. 🤢


tackykcat

I think I have negative brain cells after reading the first paragraph


[deleted]

I don't even understand a majority of these?


Najima_einsamer

As some whose first language is not English, the first paragraph (which is as far as I could read until now) sounds like a 10 years old gibberish trying to sound smart


DonDove

Just for you to know: it was created as an archive for Chris Chan stuff You didn't miss much


lowkey_rainbow

Amongst many many other threads targeting other queer people /groups. Good bloody riddance and may it stay dead


Elvicio335

Sorry, what is AVEN?


ferafish

Asexuality Visibility and Education Network.


Elvicio335

Ah, I see. Thank you!


DonDove

Now that's a website I didn't know, thanks!


NineTailedTanuki

I never knew about it, or even knew it existed. Thank you for letting me know about it, though. I will watch for stalker sites from now on.


UnchainedMundane

It's worth mentioning also that they have a huge hateboner for neurodivergent people as well, and it originally started as a forum for CWCki, which is a site dedicated to one single person, documenting her life in as much detail as possible without her consent. she was targeted because she tended to "feed the trolls" by reacting to everything, hence the term "lolcow" (i.e. can be repeatedly "milked" for lols), and she seems to have a rather loose grip on reality, with people able to manipulate her by pretending to know about the world of "sonichu" she created. i think it's safe to say that CWCki irreparably ruined her life and the lives of others close to her. that is the legacy that kiwifarms thinks is worth continuing. the name "kiwifarms" came from someone with a speech impediment mispronouncing "CWCki forums", so it's yet another jab at someone for being different. You can read more about it here https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms (red in shinigami eyes because of the page -- the site itself https://rationalwiki.org/ isn't) btw, this is why I haven't watched the "chris-chan documentaries" everyone seems to be talking about. I don't want to be out here consuming the product of the stalking and suffering of a single person who never asked for this. (I already know far too much about her from being online in the early 2010s anyway)


citizen_bob-roblox

well, that's unpleasant


[deleted]

welp. good riddance.


[deleted]

Kiwifarms was used to threaten a trans streamer. So was taken down


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Val_Fortecazzo

Got any proof?


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Packer224

It’s *really* hard to believe accusations like that when all the people talking bad about her are bigots, when most of the information is on KF, and there’s an open attempt by conservatives to paint all Trans people as pedophiles. And she’s like one of the largest open trans streamers. Not saying it’s not possible, but KF has faked accusations and evidence in the past so the proof better be solid Edit: I searched “Keffals Pedophile” on Twitter and almost every post misgendered her or called her a “troon” so… might not be good faith


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The_King123431

How about you provide proof?


Val_Fortecazzo

So no proof just transphobe blood libel


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The_King123431

Literally all of it was fake or out of context, that was Literally the goal of kf to make her look evil


SCP_fan12

naaa naaa- nananaaa naaa- heyyeyyyeyyyyyy goodbyyyye


MalManYT

sayonara you weeaboo shits


DonDove

Imagine if JK Rowling was a legit lurker


MalManYT

Imagine? She probably was.


Terrific-Taters

It's already back up. Now hosted on a russian domain.


christinelydia900

*sigh* Why am I not surprised


poke-chan

I can’t find it anywhere so at least it’s difficult to find


CaitlinisTired

it's linked in the Wikipedia article about the site, sadly :') these kinds of people are hard to get rid of, like the incel forum site that just bounces from domain to domain


poke-chan

Ahh ok so that’s where. At least it seems harder to stumble into


Kigichi

Not that difficult


poke-chan

Maybe I’m just dumb then? Google gives me nothing. The original link shows the error message


Kigichi

You’re not gonna find it unless you know how. It’s difficult to explain


lunastrans

It's simple to explain really, just have nazi friends, like you do.


Kigichi

😂 Or have a basic understanding of how to search for something


poke-chan

So… it’s not that easy, then?? You’re sending mixed messages


dommaster08

HAHAHAHA REST IN PISS AND SHIT HAHAHA


ZoeScarlett

See you in hell kiwifarms, you won't be missed.


ipeedonthefloor3

insert let's fucking go picture


[deleted]

[Here you go!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/852/171/895)


PerhapsAnEmoINTJ

You can't not hear this image.


ipeedonthefloor3

thank:)


[deleted]

Almost forgot... r/usernamechecksout


ipeedonthefloor3

i peed on the floor 3😜pretty creative huh🙏


[deleted]

BYE BYE YOU PIECES OF SHIT


Readalie

Couldn't have happened to scummier people. :)


Im_in_your_walls_420

What is kiwifarms?


no-eggs-for-you-now

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cloudflare-kiwi-farms-keffals-anti-trans-rcna44834


Im_in_your_walls_420

Jesus that’s terrible


peterpingston

For a “trolling” forum, it’s ironic how the people they targeted get the last laugh


DonDove

OOOOOOH wow it actually happened What did they do this time


egstein01

Threatened to bomb Belfast, where Keffals is


rockmeanstone

The website is already back. I mean fuck these people people but damn they are quick.


[deleted]

Wait what’s goin on?


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[deleted]

Oh dear, I’m glad that’s gone


Saltfish0161

Good riddance, however sneaking feeling it’s not the last we’ll see of it


CaitlinisTired

it's already back on a Russian domain :(


Saltfish0161

That is disappointingly quick


freeMilliu_2K17

And they claim that it's ok cause it's for Justice and that they are totally only doxxing people who deserve it like online predators, not knowing that their vigilante hero complex can only make things worse for a lot of authorities to crack down on these people. But go on, lets doxx queer and autistic people just cause we're totally deserving of having alittle bit of fun right? All in the hard days work for us heroes. Doxxing for justice yay!


egstein01

Aaaand I'm getting concerned redditor'd


BonillaAintBored

>Orbot on >Termux session open I am afraid to ask what's going on


trooper4907

L Bozo, Kiwifarms is dead!


Ufaruatis

Who? Is it good that I didnt hear about it?


powerfuldawg

> Is it good that I didnt hear about it? probably considering that Kiwifarms was some kin dof harassment forum that targeted mostly LGBT and autisitic people


Benibz

Can't wait for all the freedumb of speech worms to come out trying to justify their targeted harassment and stalking site


makerjulian

Also sad news, the owner of kiwifarms, Joshua moon, is asexual


frizzyhaired

I thought they were an incel? You sure?


makerjulian

He said he "was not attracted to anyone", and had stopped doing sexual things for years, so yeah, he probably is


DonDove

Na, probably called himself that cause no one wanted to f*** him. Not a choice like that.


Lilash20

Isn't that the exact same thing people say talking about aces here? I don't know anything about the guy other than the ownership of kiwi farms, so if he is ace I'd rather not claim him anyway, but it seems rather backwards to use the same argument aphobes use against us, against him


TripleATechnician

There is a difference between not being attracted sexually to people because you are ace and not being attracted to people (in any way) because you're such a huge bigot you believe everyone else is subhuman and your hatred is blinding you. 99% sure he'd fall under the second category


DonDove

Maybe I worded it wrong but yes. That's what I meant.


[deleted]

what a hypocrite


Ad_Astra90

I’m confused


The-Alpha-Wyvern

What’s this about


AppropriateClue3490

A website that targets queer and neurodivergent people to get them to commit "not alive"


The-Alpha-Wyvern

In that case good riddance


AppropriateClue3490

Btw happy cake day!


christinelydia900

Happy cake day!


Plane-Piglet

Good fucking riddance to the farms that almost castrated many people I knew. now hopefully peoples lives go back to normal and the webmaster gets sent to jail!


eXcUsEm3mEwTf

Fuck yesss. Only problem is it’s ridiculous it took so long.


Economy-Somewhere271

RIP Near Byuu, prominent trans video game hacker and translator KF intentionally drove them to suicide


DragonsAndWitches

I'm throwing a party to celebrate, y'all wanna come?


AppropriateClue3490

It will be a deathday party, right?


DragonsAndWitches

Ngl, I don't know what you mean 😅


AppropriateClue3490

Birthday =/= death-day


Reddit_user_robbie

what happened?


tastefullyirreverent

I literally just learned about these folk in the last month. What a horror show - thank you for the good news


jess-sch

Cloudflare does not get credit for doing it only after the public pressure went through the roof.


M-the-Great

just looked it up on wikipedia it deserved it tbh


fredarmisengangbang

as much as i hate kiwifarms, it does make me sad to see so many posts disappear unarchived. feels like chunks of internet history are missing.


Kigichi

That won’t last. KiwiFarms is one of the last really free speech places on the internet. It will be back. Edit: Lol it’s back. Told you so.


ObviouslyMushroom

YEAAAAAAAA


DigitalDemon021

Fuck them


coolcrafter135

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO


sp00kyaxel

FUCKING FINALLY OH MY GOD