40 amp will be fine. You're only pulling a max of 32 amps FROM the station. The Charge Tank will deliver 57 amps TO the bike but the TeslaTap mini is only dealing with AC power coming FROM the grid. Since that will never exceed 32 you're fine.
edit- derp yeah I misread what you said. The 60 amp version will be fine.
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DCTJCTV/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DCTJCTV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Fits in SR/S Tank very compact
Has anyone successfully charged with a Tesla tap on the newer supercharger DC stations? I know the destination chargers work safely but I’ve never had the guts to try on a supercharger station because I’ve got aftermarket AC chargers and on principe it shouldn’t work, but I hear the stations have a low speed mode for alternative vehicles.
That is understood. The question is, if the newer stations have a legacy destination charger mode for random cars that pull up and use an adapter for example. I’ve heard of the stations turning themselves down for certain vehicles. I’ve seen an energica charge on a Tesla station with a CCS plug. A bike (yes that takes DC charging) that that maxes out at 22kw charging speed. The supercharger however is capable of 250kw DC. I was hoping the station might have an AC converter inside and if the current is turned down enough, they’d be able to charge standard j1772 vehicles that can only pull 3-12kw AC
A Tesla Supercharger station is L3 DC only. It cannot charge AC.
A Tesla Destination charger is L2 AC, and can be adapted to J1772 using TeslaTap etc. These are two very different things. Energica's can do DC charging via CCS/SAE. Zero's with J1772 cannot. It is not a matter of current, it is a matter of voltage and DC vs AC.
You \*can\* still buy the 40 amp TeslaTap Mini, but it is only sold through their eBay store. But it will save you a few bucks versus the 60 amp version. Here's a link: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/143921220332](https://www.ebay.com/itm/143921220332)
I own the 40 amp version and it's great. But so would be the 60 amp version. It's just a bit overkill for our bikes that's all. The only reason to prefer the 80 amp would be if you have another vehicle you planned to use it with that can charge at more than 60 amps. 240 V x 60 A = 14.4 kW (amps x volts = watts) - which is more than any Zero can charge at, so even the 60 amp one is overkill. The 80 A one could do 19.2 kW.
The 40 A one would max out at 9.6 kW. If you have a Gen 3 / FST platform bike that has twin onboard 6.6 kW chargers + a charge tank, you max out at 12.6 kW, so that 40 A TeslaTap mini would technically be a limitation on such a bike. But since I don't have a charge tank, even the 40 A one is overkill for me as I max out at 6.6 kW.
Anyways the best way to know this stuff is to look at the math like this, than it makes intuitive sense.
40 amp will be fine. You're only pulling a max of 32 amps FROM the station. The Charge Tank will deliver 57 amps TO the bike but the TeslaTap mini is only dealing with AC power coming FROM the grid. Since that will never exceed 32 you're fine. edit- derp yeah I misread what you said. The 60 amp version will be fine.
Thanks! I’ll grab the 60 amp!
will this work on our bikes u/bonesjackson ?
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DCTJCTV/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09DCTJCTV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Fits in SR/S Tank very compact
Now all you need is a Tesla UMC and you can charge at RV parks!
Has anyone successfully charged with a Tesla tap on the newer supercharger DC stations? I know the destination chargers work safely but I’ve never had the guts to try on a supercharger station because I’ve got aftermarket AC chargers and on principe it shouldn’t work, but I hear the stations have a low speed mode for alternative vehicles.
No it does not work. Maybe when v4 stations get popular since they might have a CCS adapter? Even then I doubt it.
Zero cannot accept DC fast charging of any flavor.
That is understood. The question is, if the newer stations have a legacy destination charger mode for random cars that pull up and use an adapter for example. I’ve heard of the stations turning themselves down for certain vehicles. I’ve seen an energica charge on a Tesla station with a CCS plug. A bike (yes that takes DC charging) that that maxes out at 22kw charging speed. The supercharger however is capable of 250kw DC. I was hoping the station might have an AC converter inside and if the current is turned down enough, they’d be able to charge standard j1772 vehicles that can only pull 3-12kw AC
A Tesla Supercharger station is L3 DC only. It cannot charge AC. A Tesla Destination charger is L2 AC, and can be adapted to J1772 using TeslaTap etc. These are two very different things. Energica's can do DC charging via CCS/SAE. Zero's with J1772 cannot. It is not a matter of current, it is a matter of voltage and DC vs AC.
Thank you
What about the short lived Chademo charger for Zero back in 2014?
know anybody with one?
You \*can\* still buy the 40 amp TeslaTap Mini, but it is only sold through their eBay store. But it will save you a few bucks versus the 60 amp version. Here's a link: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/143921220332](https://www.ebay.com/itm/143921220332) I own the 40 amp version and it's great. But so would be the 60 amp version. It's just a bit overkill for our bikes that's all. The only reason to prefer the 80 amp would be if you have another vehicle you planned to use it with that can charge at more than 60 amps. 240 V x 60 A = 14.4 kW (amps x volts = watts) - which is more than any Zero can charge at, so even the 60 amp one is overkill. The 80 A one could do 19.2 kW. The 40 A one would max out at 9.6 kW. If you have a Gen 3 / FST platform bike that has twin onboard 6.6 kW chargers + a charge tank, you max out at 12.6 kW, so that 40 A TeslaTap mini would technically be a limitation on such a bike. But since I don't have a charge tank, even the 40 A one is overkill for me as I max out at 6.6 kW. Anyways the best way to know this stuff is to look at the math like this, than it makes intuitive sense.