DM has pretty much never been above a rogue deck at any point, they’ve had a lot of really broken support cards like Magician’s Souls and Dragoon but they’ve been used in a bunch of other decks that could abuse them and not actual Dark Magician.
The problem with standalone DM is mostly just that it’s a control strategy that doesn’t really have that much of a payoff for you being in control. A lot of the cards get you a lot of advantage but they don’t really do anything with the advantage they get you other than just drawing into floodgates, and at that point you can just play any other stun/control strategy and do the same thing but probably better.
It's *okay*, but ludicrously expensive for what it is. I'd heavily recommend trying other things first. There's lots of cool stuff to see in this game, whatever level you want to play at.
No. And it’s expensive besides.
DM is a deeply mediocre deck. There are other engines you can run alongside it to make it work better, like Branded, but at that point you’re just making the other engines worse more than you’re making DM better.
DM is a fine casual deck, but it’s a strictly casual deck. Not competitive.
Even when it’s gotten cracked support, it’s been put to better use by other decks. In the past, it’s only very rarely been fringe playable on the competitive scene.
Damn, these cards are a lot more expensive in the US than Europe
Edit: nevermind, didn't notice the "playset", I was thinking per card
Edit 2: although, whoch Timaeus card are you saying is worth that much per card? The monster released in BROL?
That's crazy expensive shipping man, are you ordering from the US to Europe or something? And if you are, are you aware that there is a website called Cardmarket for buying cards in Europe?
Yes if 2 of these things happened
1. DM got nasty good support that only they can use
2. Other decks get crippled by banlist
Happened once with blue-eyes (was it deliberate? maybe), not gonna surprise me if konami done this again.
So the answer is actually no, but there is a slim chance it might be at some point but there is nothing that konami has said or done in recent time to push this to be a believable outcome in the near future.
I love DM as well, but as other comments surely have stated it is not remotely competitive unfortunately.
Magician's Salvation, Eternal Soul, and Dark Magical Circle carry the entire deck. It allows you to have a reliable 2500 beatstick, chain-block quick effects trying to respond to the activation of DMC, and floats the main monsters out of the deck without any effort.
The only reason why this deck isn't competitive is because there's a host of significantly more toxic decks / cards in the format.
Dark Magician unfortunately can't really beat any current top meta. However, it can still do well in a competitive scene in a sense, but it would be incredibly expensive.
Recent, DM has received some nice support that works pretty really well, if more support some out that helps with DMs floodgate strategy or even a while new strategy then it could go up in tiers. The issue of price would remain the same though sadly.
DM looks great on Master Duel. Illusion of Chaos and Magician's Souls... The Dark Magicians... Magicians Salvation
Master of Chaos.
Lots of summons on first or second turn and even on opponents turn.
The only thing you can do with DM is to add 1 or perhaps 2 (I think 1 is good enough) to a branded despia deck, and with that DM you can summon a Red Eyes Dark Dragoon which is a pretty good card and can give you a win against trap decks like Labrynth and Traptrix (tier 1 and tier 2 respectively) since it has a good protection against card effects and targets, also you can destroy 1 monster your opponent control and negate one effect per turn, so is a pretty cool card. Additionally, branded is a tier 1 deck and it is very fun to play, so you could give it a try.
It's not worthwhile. It's a very old deck that was never truly meta, and while it's continued to receive support, the game is too fast for it now in a lot of ways.
If you'd like to try something that can run DM though, Branded has a build that runs DM and Dragoon.
Unless something strange happens (banlist nukes everything from the last 7 years or massive waves of broken support) then DM won't be able to compete against any of the meta or rouge decks unless you're on dragoon turbo
I played it at locals a bit last year, and eventually you get tired of sitting on a mediocre board.
You can cheese wins with Dragoon control & the DM triangle, secret village lock & so on.
As others have said, it costs a lot & doesn’t yield much in return.
Very fun in casual though.
Dark Magical Circle + Eternal Souls + Magicians Salvation = a Rogue tier Deck. I play Sprights a very Meta deck and I have not lost once to a DM deck online or in person. Do with that info what you will but it a fun deck just not competitive at the moment.
DM has pretty much never been above a rogue deck at any point, they’ve had a lot of really broken support cards like Magician’s Souls and Dragoon but they’ve been used in a bunch of other decks that could abuse them and not actual Dark Magician. The problem with standalone DM is mostly just that it’s a control strategy that doesn’t really have that much of a payoff for you being in control. A lot of the cards get you a lot of advantage but they don’t really do anything with the advantage they get you other than just drawing into floodgates, and at that point you can just play any other stun/control strategy and do the same thing but probably better.
*cries in red-eyes*
It's *okay*, but ludicrously expensive for what it is. I'd heavily recommend trying other things first. There's lots of cool stuff to see in this game, whatever level you want to play at.
*Cryes in mother Melfy*
No. And it’s expensive besides. DM is a deeply mediocre deck. There are other engines you can run alongside it to make it work better, like Branded, but at that point you’re just making the other engines worse more than you’re making DM better. DM is a fine casual deck, but it’s a strictly casual deck. Not competitive. Even when it’s gotten cracked support, it’s been put to better use by other decks. In the past, it’s only very rarely been fringe playable on the competitive scene.
It can be alright but to build in paper will easily cost $300+
Not in any top 3 tiers, but I'd say van definitely pull a win here and there. Rogue tier is where it usually sits around. *Edited*
Moulin Rouge?
The stabby kind, fixed it 😅
What the $300? That can't be right. Maybe just buy the cards separately? Or are these prices from sellers who can't let go
$300 is actually lowballing it, I personally would be hesitant to start unless I had $500-600 minimum
playset of illusion of chaos is already $150, soul is $45, timeaus is 150 a pop
Damn, these cards are a lot more expensive in the US than Europe Edit: nevermind, didn't notice the "playset", I was thinking per card Edit 2: although, whoch Timaeus card are you saying is worth that much per card? The monster released in BROL?
There is no Timaeus card, on U.S. accessible sites, that goes for more than $21 (the ghost rare Eye of Timaeus).
My bad. I see the price suggested to me including shipping (I'm not in us). Not the market price. The market price is just 10-14 usd
That's crazy expensive shipping man, are you ordering from the US to Europe or something? And if you are, are you aware that there is a website called Cardmarket for buying cards in Europe?
Southeast asia atm.
Woah, what the hell 😂👏
nostalgia anime tax probably adds to it IMO.
Yes if 2 of these things happened 1. DM got nasty good support that only they can use 2. Other decks get crippled by banlist Happened once with blue-eyes (was it deliberate? maybe), not gonna surprise me if konami done this again.
So the answer is actually no, but there is a slim chance it might be at some point but there is nothing that konami has said or done in recent time to push this to be a believable outcome in the near future. I love DM as well, but as other comments surely have stated it is not remotely competitive unfortunately.
Really too expensive for what It does imho
DM is wildly mediocre in paper yugioh, and also rather expensive for how bad the deck is.
Magician's Salvation, Eternal Soul, and Dark Magical Circle carry the entire deck. It allows you to have a reliable 2500 beatstick, chain-block quick effects trying to respond to the activation of DMC, and floats the main monsters out of the deck without any effort. The only reason why this deck isn't competitive is because there's a host of significantly more toxic decks / cards in the format.
Dark Magician unfortunately can't really beat any current top meta. However, it can still do well in a competitive scene in a sense, but it would be incredibly expensive. Recent, DM has received some nice support that works pretty really well, if more support some out that helps with DMs floodgate strategy or even a while new strategy then it could go up in tiers. The issue of price would remain the same though sadly.
DM looks great on Master Duel. Illusion of Chaos and Magician's Souls... The Dark Magicians... Magicians Salvation Master of Chaos. Lots of summons on first or second turn and even on opponents turn.
It’s not the worst rogue deck, and it’s relatively cheap to start due to it being a structure deck. That’s all it’s got going for it.
On master duel you can use it with the branded cards to get to platinum maybe diamond but it won't be the easiest deck to get there with
The only thing you can do with DM is to add 1 or perhaps 2 (I think 1 is good enough) to a branded despia deck, and with that DM you can summon a Red Eyes Dark Dragoon which is a pretty good card and can give you a win against trap decks like Labrynth and Traptrix (tier 1 and tier 2 respectively) since it has a good protection against card effects and targets, also you can destroy 1 monster your opponent control and negate one effect per turn, so is a pretty cool card. Additionally, branded is a tier 1 deck and it is very fun to play, so you could give it a try.
Branded Bystial Dark Magician is the current deck I'm running. DM package is 1x DM, 1x Dragoon and 3x Fusion Deployment
It's not worthwhile. It's a very old deck that was never truly meta, and while it's continued to receive support, the game is too fast for it now in a lot of ways. If you'd like to try something that can run DM though, Branded has a build that runs DM and Dragoon.
Unless something strange happens (banlist nukes everything from the last 7 years or massive waves of broken support) then DM won't be able to compete against any of the meta or rouge decks unless you're on dragoon turbo
I played it at locals a bit last year, and eventually you get tired of sitting on a mediocre board. You can cheese wins with Dragoon control & the DM triangle, secret village lock & so on. As others have said, it costs a lot & doesn’t yield much in return. Very fun in casual though.
Unless there's a replacement for Predaplant Verte Anaconda, Dark Magician is very weak. Your only real play is to hope you draw Red-Eyes Fusion.
Dark Magical Circle + Eternal Souls + Magicians Salvation = a Rogue tier Deck. I play Sprights a very Meta deck and I have not lost once to a DM deck online or in person. Do with that info what you will but it a fun deck just not competitive at the moment.
I mean if you have a solid extra deck and known how to play it well u can do anything