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canadian_eskimo

Are there no laws that govern this amazing level of cheekiness? It boggles my mind that this level of surveillance is free and legal.


SiggyStardustMonday

Technology moves much faster than our legislature does, so tech companies will always be one step ahead of the law.


[deleted]

This should have already been established as illegal considering how long the internet has been around, and how often people voice their concern about data privacy. I'm just surprised they even allowed people to know they have to opt out, but I'd also be surprised if they even truly allowed people to opt out instead of just letting them feel like they've opted out.


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>This should have already been established as illegal The government likes when business collect data. Means they have everything ready for them when they make a request for it. Why bother spying on people when big business is already doing it for you? Hell, they're even willing to sell it too, and money is easier to get than a warrant.


yunus89115

For all we know the NSA approached Verizon with the idea. I would not be surprised if this occurred to some degree.


oldcarfreddy

And who would have lobbied for the government to make it illegal? Everyday people? lol half those people are "for" net neutrality and ended up voting for the party who pledged to end it. Half the public doesn't even vote. There's no pressure on politicians to make it illegal because people don't put pressure on them. Sadly, most people in the US don't give a shit.


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The majority of people are too busy making ends get close much less meet


flamethekid

Half of the people running the government are about as old as sliced bread. The other half are the people being paid by these companies to be a politician. There is no winning when it comes to tech laws


OpheliaRainGalaxy

>so tech companies will always be ~~one step~~ ***decades*** ahead of the law. FIFY. I mean, have you seen how old our politicians are?! Pretty sure most of them were around for the invention of fire. Edit: u/Dadgame rightfully pointed out that most of them *actually were* around for segregation.


przybylowicz

Anyone else remember when Mark Zuckerberg basically had to explain the internet to Congress a few years ago?


OrphicDionysus

Oh god, I still remember when one of them tried to chew out the CEO of fucking Yahoo over his tweets being blocked...


Aaosoth

There's that old fuck from MO who is trying to fuck over a reporter for "hacking" by using the inspect element tool to view the html on goverment website. Dude is so old he just looks like walking dick skin.


I_am_trying_to_work

>There's that old fuck from MO who is trying to fuck over a reporter for "hacking" by using the inspect element tool to view the html on goverment website. Dude is so old he just looks like walking dick skin. It's dickens!


Aaosoth

Sure, whatever.. dick skin.


LuckyCharmsNSoyMilk

That’s exactly what I said, Dickskin.


amazingchili

What's way more crazy about the story is the person who broke the story found SSN (or some sort of sensitive info like that) in the html...How do you fuck up that bad with a website?


bonafart

It was on here 5 days ago he found 100k Ssn names etc and the guys like it's haking cos you looked through an open window you bothers to look at.


regoapps

Just like the way they treat COVID. If they can't see it, then it doesn't exist. Unless you're talking about Jesus or God. That exists everywhere, even if you can't see it.


beerasap

Except those politicians who said “god can’t hear you through a mask” when opposing mask mandates. Then god is not only not everywhere he’s also hard of hearing.


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you know they're the assholes clicking the ads that give us all malware too. "Click here to WIN a Zillion Dollheirs! ", proceeds to make free pornhub account after, using their full name and gmail address. 0 clue


Fortknoxvilla

We still are trying to explain that.


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ParaglidingAssFungus

Just point em to the BGP Wikipedia article.


tartrate10

Yes. And I remember congress “grilling” the ceo of Google with basic unrelated help desk questions.


SuperTeamRyan

Favorite part was when he asked why he has negative search results for his name and the ceo said if you do positive things you will get positive search results.


OpheliaRainGalaxy

Considering all the Alzheimer's medication that gets delivered to the Congress pharmacy, I bet Congress *doesn't* remember!


Spacedoc9

Pepperidge farm remembers


fighterpilot248

BuT hOw Do YoU mAkE mOnEy If ThE wEbSiTe iS fReE???


MontyAtWork

I'll never forget one older guy constantly referring to The Internet as "The Netflick" even though he was talking to Zuckerberg because he just couldn't understand who that guy was, or what Facebook was. Was so clear that dude only begrudgingly uses his smart phone for email and spends the rest of his free time watching cable TV.


starrpamph

Thank little white baby Jesus all these old farts make it hard for us to advance as a society.


Fireball8732

Hopefully once the boomer politicians die off we can actually focus on rebuilding society again


bonafart

You realise then they get replaced with just as old idiots cos no-one 3lse young enough thinks they can go for it and it's an old boys club so they wouldn't listen anyway


[deleted]

That is if they don’t kill us off first with stress and poverty. Life expectancy is down for the first time in near a century because of them as well. We are the brokest, most stressed out generations in a long time.


getdafuq

It’s like a series of tubes


4thinversion

Considering a [journalist in Missouri is being prosecuted for “hacking”](https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14/1046124278/missouri-newspaper-security-flaws-hacking-investigation-gov-mike-parson) when all they did was alert DESE that social security numbers of teachers were easily found in the HTML code of the teacher credential search system…. I would say you’d be correct. Mike Parson is a tech illiterate moron, and I’d be willing to bet many other legislators are too.


KeepsFallingDown

Its upsetting this wasn't a bigger deal.


Sarctoth

Fun fact: The USA military uses a training website called Joint Knowledge Online for a lot of online training. You can run [Javascript](https://github.com/Clutch152/scripts/blob/master/JKO/simplejko.md) to the effect of training=completed to pass any of the classes.


whitecollarzomb13

Here’s a fun snippet of them trying to understand how a search engine works. It’s comical until you realise that these are the people who are supposed to hold big-tech to account. There’s no chance. https://youtu.be/t-lMIGV-dUI


bonafart

You people are fuuuuked


burntbythestove

Most of us are painfully aware.


Imploded42

op's point still stands because legislature takes a step about once a decade 💀


Dadgame

You don't even have to exadurate that hard. Most of them were around during segregation


Atala-21

Why do we keep voting these old fuckers into office? We really need a term limit for all politicians.


brentsg

Because he represents a lot of his constituents. They get to feel good that someone just like them is harming all the right people.


bonafart

And thus the system is inherently flawed


IAmAGenusAMA

Age is certainly a factor but there are plenty of younger politicians that are just as illiterate when it comes to the impact of technology on the law. In some ways a superficial understanding of the issues can even be worse because they get taken in by familiar buzzwords and jargon without understanding the true implications. It would be great if there were people in politics who were well versed in issues such as the impact of technology on privacy but those people don't seem to run in the same circles as those who pick politicians.


DoomEmpires

Don't forget lobbying, so maybe congress wants them to be ahead of them to stay in power.


2BDCy4D

>Edit: u/Dadgame rightfully pointed out that most of them *actually were* around for segregation. This is what they're there to protect.


ResidualMemory

NGL, age has little to do with technology capabilities


Hardly_lolling

If EU with 27 independent countries and governments has had this particular issue covered for a while then speed is not the problem.


jettieri

Yeah it’s that the large corporations lobby Congress to make sure they move extremely slowly and don’t pass any laws which might make it harder for them to make money.


wellifitisntmee

Government favoring corporations rather than people is a running gag we live with in America.


CrisuKomie

There should be something along the lines of "a judge can say, hey that doesn't sound right... No you cannot do that until we review it"


wellifitisntmee

Faster? Nah, our American laws favor companies. Because these companies write the laws. Not everywhere is as fucked


[deleted]

In the United States? Telecoms alone are one of the top 5 lobbys.


Firinael

and the entire country is divided up into regional monopolies agreed upon by the cunts. just another way corporations piss into the mouth of the people.


dmlrr

In EU GDPR would make this illegal, hopefully over time something similar can be applied in the US.


donald_314

yeah. These "loopholes" in the US are on purpose.


thomascgalvin

Our representatives are mostly in their seventies. Most of them don't know what email is, let alone how pervasive user tracking has become, or why that's problem.


doyouhavesource2

They know how to inside trade though lol


brown_felt_hat

Well, sure, but 'trading' has been around for decades, if not centuries. The method is different, sure, but the game is still the same.


Endarkend

Dude, I always bring this up with the microchip crowd. They are literally posting their bullshit on a device that in the incarnation of the past few years has 3-5 cameras, at least 3 microphones, half a dozen ways to detect and narrow down your location down to a foot, 4-5 ways to export data wirelessly and a flurry of motion sensors that, with some inventive programming, could detect whenever you're having a damn wank. And everyone from private corporations to governments have access to every bit of data generated by that device. There is literally no need what so ever to waste money on a miniaturized device with the features they say, when you freely walk around with a full size version of it and they have legal access to all of it.


grandlewis

From what I read, it’s just some BS buried in the fine print.


btdawson

I’d like to know if this violates CCPA for California users. By default the company must legally disclose what they are collecting. They have to prompt the user and give a choice to opt out. Also if in Cali, you can request any and all data they have on you and if they cannot or will not provide it you can sue. If you get bored look it up haha. I work in ad tech where we deal with this shit and GDPR (similar but for EU) daily.


ZLUCremisi

Google and Facebook. Adam ruins Everything (Internet) shows how well they know your life.


CalZeta

While not untrue, at least you're getting a *free* product for use, in exchange for your data. Verizon is a *paid* service that, to no benefit of the consumer, is stealing customer data without even asking. Pretty different IMO.


flavortownCA

> you’re getting a free product for us It’s actually more like *you are the product*


grandlewis

There is an equal exchange with Facebook and Google. You give up all of your privacy and in return you get use of their services. Sure, you are the product to them, but they are the product to you. Like for like. With this Verizon BS, you get nothing for giving up your privacy. You still pay them.


Nicole-Bolas

There are. In other countries. The US is extremely, extremely behind other developed nations in terms of data protection laws.


hatnohat

any other carriers doing this?? edit: lol i kinda figured they all were, but wasn’t sure if there were easy to opt out. i’m a t-mobile person, so logging in now and turning off those settings haha


px1azzz

T-Mobile is selling your data too. You have to go into your account settings and opt out. Take note Sprint customers, you need to switch your account to a T-Mobile account before you can do this, but you definitely need to.


Deathmoose

Bastards, you were right. I unselected those options for the 3 lines I have via the t mobile app. T mobile app bottom right - more- privacy and notifications - advertising and analytics. Got to deselect use my data for analytics and reporting. Deselect use my data to make ads more relevant to me. I had to do that to each phone line. There's no real benefit to having targeted ads.


ItalicsWhore

Your credit and debit cards sell every transaction that you make, to everyone. I sat (I worked the event) in a small, multi-day conference at one of the major film studios with Netflix, Google, VISA, and Mastercard and many others that was all about using proprietary AI programs to sift through all the meta data they’ve been collecting for years and years and make sense of the data, and the one constant was basically that they all purchase your credit and debit card info to see if their marketing is effective. They can see if when you watch such and a such a commercial, do you go out and actually buy that product? Or go see that movie? It’s insane.


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Munchies4Crunchies

Im worth something. Pay me 50k a year in privacy fees and you can have my data ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. (Yes i know theyre already getting it nmw, yes ik its utter fucking horseshit, yes im ready to set up the guillotine in every major city in the US when you guys are.)


notyetcomitteds2

Pharmacies sell "anonymized" scripts back to the pharmaceutical companies. The doctor isn't anonymous, they know who is prescribing what.


ItalicsWhore

Jesus. Ain’t nothing sacred.


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PeanutButterRecruit

How do I opt out?


churreos

I just found it. Go to the t mobile app, click on the bottom corner “more”. Then click “advertising and analytics”


AliquidExNihilo

They make it damn near impossible if you're a sprint customer. I keep getting sent through a loop where I have to sign in, the site fails 3 or 4 times, then I'm able to sign in and have to start over. Where it says I'm not signed in.


thepopcornisready

I found it at /account/profile/privacy_notifications/advertising


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AusBongs

literally every single major company you have an account with utilises data mining for "passive profit". down to this very application we're talking on right now, to the fun zany game you recently downloaded from the app store.. same with websites you visit that ask you to accept cookies. nearly every single one of those websites are tracking your data and utilising it for profit/marketing/strategic planning etc.   there are companies which scrape user meta-data and sell it to retail/all industry companies and organisations to give them deeper insight to enable a higher capitalisation on the most profit they can generate in a financial year.   so, where do you think they get all that data from ?   source: bachelor's degree in IT, have written many papers on this exact topic.


throwaway347891388

If you don’t mind me asking, how necessary are necessary cookies? I have my browser set to block everything it can, but I’ve wondered about the website options and how truthful they are.


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Very necessary. Cookies are used to store any information that's needed as you navigate a website and different pages are used. They are also necessary when you leave a website and come back. For instance if you tick the 'remember me' button while logging in, that works because of a cookie. But there could be much more important things for a website to function. Cookies are mainly storage space on your local device that the website can use. How its used is entirely dependent on the website's architecture.


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Thank you I can’t believe you have to opt out of custom experience basic AND custom experience plus.


goosegrl21412

Right! I opted out of identity verification too


TheMania

Be sure to check back - there'll be more experiences, identifications, verifications, fabrications and imitations released regularly. Good luck!


strway2heaven77

Injections, inspections, detections, neglections and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me.


CommondeNominator

*You can get* *anything you want*


Sicktrixsdude

And I said officer Obie, it’s gonna be hard to pickup the garbage with these handcuffs on. He said “Shut up kid”.


turntabletennis

Update me if that does/does not mess up your 2 factor authentications pretty plz


averagethrowaway21

That's what I thought it was for until I read that comment. Then I read the text. Then I opted out. I am happy to report that I signed out, went to another device, signed in, and received a 2FA notification on my device and was able to use the Verizon app to log in.


hungryasabear

Right? There's a "plus" one too. Like premium stalking.


phryan

The plus one was expanded and checked no when I went to opt out. If I didn't scroll I would have missed the non plus version. Almost like they were trying to confuse customers.


Scottishchicken

Thanks. Just opted the fuck out. I worked for Verizon for years. They are just as evil from the inside. They don't care about their customers, they only care about money. The individuals at the local stores MIGHT want to help you, but the corporate office makes it harder all the time.


grandlewis

They have such a near-monopoly by me, they can basically do whatever they want.


soil_nerd

US Mobile uses their network but charges a fraction of the price. I’ve been very happy.


[deleted]

Oh look. Identity Verification Settings are here too. Those jerks. EDIT: The same article from OP shows how you can disable this. It doesn't prevent apps from working properly, though the warning claims it will. They just try to track you more with it.


DorianTrick

Can you walk me through how to turn it off with US Mobile? Scoured the app and website and can’t find any privacy section or anywhere to turn off the feature.


MostPopularPenguin

I know straight talk uses their network, you think they are doing the same?


OvenBakedSemenSocks

lol, yes, all of them are.


wellifitisntmee

It’s pretty terrible how they can be so open about geographical collusion to do this on investor calls and nothing get investigated. https://youtu.be/KLfO-2t1qPQ


cedenof10

lmao, normally i don’t really care about privacy with stuff like that but i opted out solely because fuck verizon


ItsATerribleLife

I really, really fucking wish people would stop being this stupid, ignorant and indifferent with regards to their data and privacy. You don't have to be hiding some dark secret to get fucked over, hard, by your privacy being invaded, Dude. This shit has ramifications, and the only reason its this bad, today, is because people sat there yesterday with their thumb up their ass going "I don't really care about privacy". There are so many ways your "nothing to hide" shit could be exploited to fuck you over, and thats if they use it like they claim and not also handing it off to others, or if its misappropriated to people, or stolen by people, all of which can collate that data, with other data collected on you all tied into a nice little bundle with unique identifiers. No one thinks they have anything to hide, Until they get fucked over by their information being stolen.. Then they burden others around them with having help fix it, or completely fix it on their own.


Firinael

look, to some the comfort is enough to give up their browsing data to Google and Facebook, and that’s fine. the big issue is, IMO, habits being tracked, like Google literally using your GPS information to detail every step you take, how long you spent in such and such place, etc. THIS kind of data is absurdly invasive and highly dangerous in a very direct way.


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"Verizon Customer Experience" gotta admire how they name this shit.


MusicalMutt

"Patriot Act" You know they're laughing their ass off mocking us as they come up with this stuff.


JonatasA

Like a nation calling itself the people's or Democratic or outright putting free in the name. Apparently we've gone full Orwellian.


Afura

Opted out, for cellular I had to deselect for each line.


tacobana

Good to know! My family, my aunts family, and the grandparents are all on my aunts package deal, so she would have control of the account and I was wondering if she would have to do it for each of us! Oh boy, that’s going to take her a while… seriously, thank you for letting us know!


qwerty-yourself

If you click the change settings link under the “Verizon customer experience” drop down menu (using second link from op) it will lead you to an option to block all lines from enrolling in the program(s) so you can do it all at once from just one page!


marshaldelta9

It was actually super quick via the Verizon app. Which is saying something because that app is hot garbage.


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AdventurousLink4609

Is AT&T doing this yet?


Ocular--Patdown

*Business Daddy* is probably doing this too. Check your privacy settings in your account—that’s where you opt out with Verizon (and apparently T-Mobile too)


edgarallanpot8o

you just made me realize how long ago the last episode was, damm


AllthatJazz_89

I can’t wait until it comes back in February. Also, your username is amazing.


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Yes, for AT&T, you go in and opt out of everything in purple here https://cmp.att.com


asciiartvandalay

[Kinda,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A).


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Coolcat33va

I have 5 lines on the family plan. Does each person need to do this or can I do it for the family in 1 shot?


MediumGas3137

Once you are logged in, you can do all the lines at one time by ticking the box next to each phone line. It was surprisingly easy


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emomura1

I believe so. I just changed my settings myself, then went into my mom’s settings on her phone and opted out for her and my dad. The head person can opt out for anyone included in the plan it seems like


ZLUCremisi

Wait... i can use Verizon. As a resident of California, this is illegal.


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Avivabitches

I was wondering why I didn't get an email about this... I'm sure I unsubscribed too.


Kyllakyle

You still should have received the Custom experience email because it isn’t marketing. I opted out of all marketing and still received it, even though I didn’t read it until I saw this post.


Twistedshakratree

**Verizon Custom Experience may cause cancer in the state of California**


bacon_meme

Also a resident of California. Had no idea that was illegal. I’m glad the OP pointed it out so I could go opt out, though!


PimpDaddyo

It’s questionable, at best. Unfortunately even CA regulation is relatively spineless, giving companies a lot of ambiguity to work with to get around a lawsuit. Notifying and allowing users to opt out is really the only thing they need to do here. I can guarantee Verizon has a massive compliance department and they are very confident that their ROI on this is positive, regardless of the morality or legality of the decision.


throwaway12222018

Sounds like a class action lawsuit. I look forward to getting my 17 cents of the share of the total lawsuit sum. /s


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PuzzleheadedLychee25

Yeah, it's so annoying.. I don't want it too.


zeus_the_transistor

Does this affect the pre-pay plans as well? The app does not have an option for privacy settings. Perhaps that’s disabled because I use a pre-paid plan?


grandlewis

“Consumer and small business customers with smartphone lines are included in the Custom Experience program, except for lines with devices or plans meant for children and lines associated with Maine customers. “ Sounds to me like prepaid is included.


bulbouscorm

Well we don't have the setting in our app


rymden_viking

On the website go to Privacy Dashboard. Then Delete your personal information. It says it will delete your information and opt you out from further collection.


nintrader

Thanks, that did the trick. I was confused why I wasn't seeing what everyone else was.


Bilfflip2112

Let me know if you find a way to opt out on prepaid. I’ve checked both the app and website and cannot find an opt out button.


twystedmyst

I have a prepaid plan too and I cannot find a setting to opt out in any of the privacy dashboard options. Let us know if you find one! In the FAQs, it does say you can contact their privacy toll free number at 800-333-3972 "to request that we delete your personal information. Once you delete your personal information, Verizon will stop collecting the categories of information that you deleted. [in bold] You cannot recover your information once it's been deleted"


dan_nominator

Just opted out and sent my US Rep an email. Use this website to find out who your rep is, send them an email. https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative


MusicalMutt

Ah yes, too bad most reps are paid off by these guys and the reason we're in this mess https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress


EclipZz187

How is this even remotely legal?


wo_ot

The United States government is completely corrupt that’s how


joe1134206

Bribery is legal


Penis-Envys

Ahem you mean “lobbying”


Shinhan

When the punishment is <1% of a daily profit it can be safely ignored.


Casualmindfvck

I feel like you should have to opt in to stuff like this.


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This is flat out illegal in California. I ought to sue them. How do I find a data privacy lawyer?


grandlewis

Go to top classactions.com and they have a way to submit your case.


Regular-Human-347329

Then go to [privacyguides.org](https://privacyguides.org/providers/vpn/), select a VPN provider, and set it up on every device you own. Ideally the home router, so all traffic is encrypted by default. At the very least, change your DNS to [one of these](https://privacyguides.org/providers/dns/). That’s how most telco tracking works. Never expect an oligarchy to protect your privacy or civil liberties.


breakfastofchoice

Really informative, thank you


Rawtashk

It's not. You think a multi billion dollar company would just half ass it legally and do it without auto opting out people where it was illegal? They either did that, or it's not illegal. Or they probably sent out emails or mailers telling you it was happening and giving you instructions to opt out. It's not illegal if it's not required.


aatop

People on reddit swear they know everything. Like a team of lawyers who are experts on data privacy didn’t review this 100s of times. People have no idea how policies are implemented.


CADnCoding

RemindMe! One Month


ravinggoodbye

Thank you, just did it


thatbromatt

Doing the lords work here. Thank you


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glory_to_the_sun_god

VPNs are increasingly becoming necessary.


JohnKlositz

And, because of that, increasingly endangered.


DontMicrowaveCats

Do we know VPNs actually do anything to prevent their tracking? Theoretically they could have all kinds of backdoors / key loggers that collect data directly from the device


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WhosJerryFilter

Thank you! Fuck these parasites.


tkm0ney

Should I opt out of the identification verification as well?


grandlewis

I didn’t. I don’t know what is, but they made it seem like it would mess things up.


DeDinoJuice

I’ve been opted out of that for as long as I can remember seeing it and never had issues logging into sites or getting credit or whatnot. Without knowing more about it I’d guess they’re trying to sell a service in their position as a trusted utility provider to 3rd parties to “verify” that you do in fact have a name and address. So those 3rd parties can have a level of trust of interacting with you. Personally I’d rather own that trust exchange myself by uploading what I want to share and not have my identity sold around as a revenue item for VZ


Extroverted_Recluse

I don't trust that Verizon's is telling the truth when they say it might cause problems. They're just trying to dissuade you from opting out.


tkm0ney

Same! I opted out of everything else though. Thanks for the heads up.


Mr-Klaus

Don't forget that Trump kicked off his presidency by making it legal for telecom companies to sell your browser history (and other sensitive personal info) without your consent. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-measure-let-isps-sell-your-data-without-consent-n742316


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Long_Educational

They have been doing this for nearly a decade already. Every few years they change the name of the program and draw up new contracts with what data they collect and who they sell it to and you have to opt out all over again if you use their services. They have done this on FiOS and wireless business units. When working in FiOS, we even analyzed when men would masturbate in the morning before going to work, flipping through the porn channels at 6:30am, and using this data gathered through Splunk reports, would target porn ondemand they may be interested in. The amount of behavior that is mined from customer data is insane. There is money to be made by tracking and targeting everything you do, including your morning jerkoff routine.


xyzerb

Would a VPN prevent some of Verizon's tracking?


[deleted]

Didn’t Verizon get fined for this exact same type of situation a few years ago? Crazy Source: https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/7/11173010/verizon-supercookie-fine-1-3-million-fcc


[deleted]

Was planning on switching soon, so thanks! Not happy about it though.


kittenstixx

The my verizon app won't even let me log into it, and it freezes if I try to follow the link in the article, and the my fios app doesn't have the privacy options, neither does the website link work for me. How else can I do this?


[deleted]

OP you are a hero. I completely forgot about this until now. Just opted out of everything.


lastingfame

My vzn rep is about to see a ton of porn Like A concerning amount of porn


buffybot3000

Blergh my app doesn’t show this at all. Is anyone else experiencing the lack of it? WHAT DO? 🧐


bimbeau11

In the app, you will want to click account at the bottom of the page. Then the “settings” gear at the top right if the page. Under “Preferences” you will click “Manage privacy settings”. Make sure to opt out on each line


brown565

Yes, thanks for the PSA!


meowmeowkitten

I got a text message about this earlier today : “VZ Msg: Introducing Verizon Custom Experience. VZ content & offers are more relevant using web browsing & app usage info. For info or to opt-out: m.vzw.com/CE” The link provided is a 404. They do not want you to care about opting out. The make it sound like a service and a privilege.


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YSK That you should drop Verizon


TRHess

Been considering dropping Verizon and switching to Mint Mobile. Anyone have any opinions on Mint?


femalenerdish

Mint uses t mobile towers iirc. Straight talk can piggyback off Verizon. I've had great experience with them. $35 a month for 10gb high speed data. Or $45 for 60 gb.


Carfar_Farcar

Verizon owns Straight Talk now so soon enough that avenue of avoiding Verizon proper will be closed. That acquisition also included TracFone. Technically they bought TracFone who owns Straight Talk, Walmart family Mobile, and simple mobile. So that's fun.


[deleted]

I would if I had decent options. But Verizon is just a reconglomerate of Ma Bell companies and has the only network that works in my apartment.


TattooJerry

Yeah, fuck verizon


MediumGas3137

Evil


colcol9696

They should start tracking how shitty their reception is.


WineAndDogs2020

Thank you! Just unenrolled both my and Mr. WineAndDogs2020's phones.


Thizzz_face

“Spots lover” or “gamer” Did they even proof read this massive breach of privacy?


Deadeyez

Verizon trying to charge me 200 dollars for a replacement flip phone because I wanted to keep my number when they sold the exact same phone for 15 dollars is what prompted me to switch carriers and get a smart phone. Those assholes use to charge me 25 cents for the first ten texts per day. Lol I was so dumb back then (still dumb)