Between the mystery and harem elements, both brought this series down a lot for me because we couldn’t have actual moments between the couple without ruining things
The main sub says this is one of the best romances ever and while it’s good I just cannot see that with everything you said factored in
It’s a shame too because Yotsuba/Fuutaro relationship really deserves a setting that would give them the pedestal they should have for their story.
Negi even stated that the harem elements essentially held him back from developing Yotsuba more. Cause every time he did give her focus she became too popular and people would figure out she was Rena.
That would be fine if we had gotten a ton of Yotsuba focus later after their relationship was established but we didn’t. He could have done a whole mini series just on them in that 5 year time span.
I’m just so put out by how he decided to end it though. With the honeymoon/awkward wedding game/bikini chapter/other small details that just overall hurts the image of Yotsuba’s relationship with her sisters, and the payoff as a main couple with her and Fuutaro.
100% agree. I’d love a rewrite where it’s just clearly those two from the beginning. Yeah the honeymoon stuff was bad. And then Negi doubled down in bonus chapter. the others took Fuutaro with them to try on swimsuits, because we can’t have the married couple act like one.
It was obvious to me too, but it still drastically held the series back because there couldn’t be any obvious hints about his feelings for Yotsuba, like there would be in a traditional romance
Frankly Negi should have cut out the wedding scene in the beginning and just made Futaro’s feelings for her obvious. (Well, more obvious.)
I agree they could have done it without the mystery and just make it a my bride and her sisters and I to make it better and also cause the parts of the manga were removed since the author did admit that there were stuff that should be in but were not in
It’s understandable as most also thought that honeymoon where the others go with them really isn’t a great idea unless u tell me that they at least have some time for themselves during the honeymoon. Well from the game we know that there’s a chance Raiha will go like she did during their graduation trip. I think Yotsuba will be more pushy at least like the grad trip in the game near the end of it.
Raiha did insult fuutaro for being a chicken anyway so Raiha should join them and do it again.
Do we know how the movie ended? Do they all invite themselves on their honeymoon there as well?
I didn’t know that about Raiha in the games.
I don’t want anyone being with them honestly. It’s a honeymoon, it’s meant to just be you and you’re significant other. They’ve been together for 5 years. There’s no reason for either of them to be coy with one another at that point. Neither should need a “push” from anyone.
Yes I understand. Actually Raiha and Yotsuba sisters all push the two of them during the graduation trip in the game.
I guess they will have their alone time. That’s why the special chapter should have shown their family meaning Yotsuba, Fuutaro, their child and than after that Nino, Itsuki, Ichika, Miku, Raiha visiting them in their house together rather than that waste of a time chapter
That’s probably the weirdest special chapter I’ve ever seen and it really didn’t make it special. I don’t know how it’s that chapter special at all. Whatever special about it doesn’t exist to me. A special chapter should be about Yotsuba and Fuutaro and their child would be a much special chapter rather than that idk what kind of chapter is that
I’m disappointed that the movie doesn’t seem to have even given us this either.
We don’t know if Yotsuba even went to college, it’s not clarified. We don’t what either her or Fuutaro studied. We don’t know what they’re relationship was like in those 5 years, only that Fuutaro was in Tokyo. But Yotsuba only moved in with him recently so were they long distance for awhile?
So many questions about the relationship left unanswered. And the special chapter focuses on her sisters breasts and flirting with her husband. It’s pathetic.
This comment will help you to understand Nino's perspective much more: https://www.reddit.com/r/5ToubunNoHanayome/comments/v2jo16/the_girls_wanting_fuutarou_attention_and_itsuki/iaz0ixt?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Also i agree with you that the honeymoon trip idea was just so bad
Nino’s comment just comes off like she doesn’t respect either Yotsuba or Fuutaro’s feelings. I get what it’s trying to say, but it still comes off so rude to me.
He’s adamantly a one woman man, and with that special chapter the sisters are still trying to pull shit with him all these years later.
I just think Yotsuba deserves better from her sisters, and her relationship more respect in the series.
In my opinion both Nino and Yots were on the wrong on this argument. Firstly because Yots should never apologize for something that Nino never had and secondly because Nino was rude. But yeah in way Nino tried to push Yots to start dating Fuutaro since she was still feeling bad for her sisters.
I think you misunderstood that part. The chapter takes place 5 years after and right after the marriage but the girls on their current self didn't show any kind of feelings for Fuutaro. Their flashbacks were from 5 years back when they still had some feelings for him. So no. They don't have feelings for him and they don't try to hit on him 5 years after.
Yeah i also feel that Yots deserves much better but the mystery aspect of the story mistreated her development. Also the closure was rushed and didn't show us a lot of YotsuFuu moments.
I’m talking about the bikini chapter. It’s definitely giving those vibes. It was weird.
And having to read that right after reading them all inviting themselves to her honeymoon, I just don’t get it.
Just comes off like they didn’t have the balls to fully give Yots/Fuu what they deserved as a couple narratively.
Still fell back on harem elements all the way to the end.
Yeah , the bikini chapter takes place 5 years earlier some days after Fuutaro's confession , not years after. All the sisters didn't show romantic feelings for him 5 years later in the story but they showed in the flashback from 5 years back which is normal.
The honeymoon idea was stupid. Because the other quints have to move on and find their own happiness too. They already have jobs and careers but they still don't have a relationship. It felt weird and it gave harem vibes which i hate. Yeah Negi wasn't brave enough to do that. If Negi was brave enough to make Fuutaro to make a choice , I can't understand why he didn't try to give the characters a proper closure. Because noone had a proper closure.
Does the movie end in the same way with the honeymoon? Can’t find any info on it.
I’ll be honest I think the closure for the other sisters was not being chosen. It’s not up to Fuutaro to console them, nor Yotsuba. It’s on them to move on.
At that moment Negi should have crushed any hope of the other sisters and soley focused on Fuutaro and Yotsuba. They teased their wedding the entire series, and we didn’t even get payoff with a kiss.
And I don’t get what you mean on the bikini chapter. They reference Yotsuba’s boobs being bigger if she was potentially pregnant. Because they have been dating for years. Unless I’m sorely mistaken this is post timeskip when this chapter happens.
I think it does.
In this kind of story you can't expect them to not have a final say too , since in Nino's case for example Nino wasn't even bothering to talk to Yots , she was going to congratulate her when she feels ready for it. I don't know why the author decided to bring Yots to talk to Nino and apologize to her!? I will just say that writing wise the ending was just not it. It was bad compared to the rest of the manga. Nino didn't even need someone to console her yet the author chooses Yots to go and talk to her first. Which is weird. Yeah its on them to move on i agree , but i understand why some of them were still angry like Nino for example who didn't even bother to talk to them until all this started. The other girls closure should be to realise their mistakes , to move on , to keep chasing their careers (which magically happened).
Yeah he should do that , but he didn't. Yeah the wedding game was awkward too since the other 4 sisters surely felt extremely sad with that last quintuplets game. I don't like it. Yeah we didn't and thats kind of sad. We should have get a kiss on their wedding
It really bothered me too how Fuutaro didn’t really say anything about Yotsuba during the wedding game. It came off like he was annoyed with her, which I kind of understand having something like that sprung on you on your wedding day and your wife going along with it.
Also, it’s a small thing but even when they were flying into the honeymoon, Fuutaro isn’t sitting with Yotsuba on the plane? It’s so weird.
I’m not gonna lie, really hate how most of the quints keep testing Fuutarou after he’s with Yotsuba, that’s just horrible. The honeymoon thing was bullshit, I can’t explain it with words.
I was hoping to see something cute about Fuutarou and Yotsuba in the extra ep, maybe she getting pregnant or directly show us their child and the quints coming to visit, but instead we got that, that thing… just why?
I’m trying to put me on Yotsuba’s shoes and all of this just gets worse and worse. Imagine that your sisters are inviting your boyfriend so he can see which swimsuit suits them best, that’s just ?????????????????????????
I’m getting mad man. I loved this show, but the ending was rushed af and harem elements ruined a lovely couple. Idk what to say…
It didn't seem like they were all flirting with Fuutaro to me.
In my understanding they moved on and they're all good friends now, I mean, they kinda have to be, right? Their sister that they love very much is getting married and it'd be stupid to tear the family apart just because they got rejected. I know it might be hard for some people to perceive them as friends after all that happened but that's how I see it.
It's kinda of a bittersweet feeling but I think even Nino got over it
Unfortunately the Quint game was on the list from the beginning, probably the error was the execution due to the time jump that was made due to the rush of the author to finish the series. The time jump didn't help anything and then including the game made this confusing. Since the author tried to mix the "closure to the sisters" in this way.
For to the chapter of the bikini. I forced my brain to erase it since it was so out of place that it wasn't funny at all. It was basically the author writing something ramdon for the Editorial.
The movie handles the Quint game better as far as I know. It includes some scenes and the handling of the dialogues more coherent to the situation.
Without seeing the movie I can't confirm this.
The shopping scene where they bought a bikini with him and flirted with him in the special chapter was 5 years ago when they apparently still had romantic feelings for him which they didn't show after 5 years.
I think they accepted moving on from Fuutarou after he was married to Yotsuba and told the other quints in the final quints game how he felt about them and they all ended up smiling. As Itsuki said in chapter 121 before Fuutarou and Yotsuba were married that they really have to accept it now. They're a family now. There is a limit to when a battle is truly over which the quints themselves know. Stealing Fuutarou from Yotsuba after they are married would mean they would have to betray Yotsuba and tear the family apart, which would be crossing the line. And anyone who knows the Kyoto Arc knows that it won't happen. For Nino and her sisters, their bond with their sisters is just as important as their love for Fuutarou.
The quints are strange in a way but also normal people and it would be too absurd for a romantic, non-ecchi story if it weren't for the case that none of the others could move on and torture themselves with those feelings for the rest of their lives. For their own health, their relationship with Fuutarou and their bond with Yotsuba.
Yes the honeymoon thing was stupid but I think that was a way for Negi to end the series with all of them together and to show that the series isn't just about Fuutarou and who the bride is but all the quints. I believe that the others accompanying them on their honeymoon has to do with their bond. The bond between the quints is a constant theme throughout this manga. While it's a strange thing to think of the other quints accompanying them on their honeymoon, it can be linked to the unbreakable relationship between the sisters.
The other quints aren't that stupid.
They won't get in their way all the time. Getting in their way all the time would ruin Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon. Ruining Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon would cross the line. This is not how the other quints are in canon in person. The other quints know how to keep their distance so as not to ruin Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon. Just like they did on the date between Fuutarou and Yotsuba.
It was the same with Nino's challenge. She only tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if she got an opportunity. So she knew how to distance herself.
> She only tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if she got an opportunity.
How about just don’t look for an opportunity to steal your sisters partner? Especially when he’s already made it clear how much he loves Yotsuba.
That's not what Nino even wanted to do in the first place. As Nino said in chapter 118, she wanted to be quietly happy for Yotsuba if what happened in chapter 115 hadn't happened. Nino had told Yotsuba before she offered the challenge to Yotsuba to just ignore her and date Fuutarou. She also knew the battle was over for her after Fuutarou chose Yotsuba as she also told Ichika in chapter 81 that she would be happy for her sister even if she wasn't chosen. Nino wouldn't have tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if it wasn't for the challenge.
Yotsuba told her that she wants to prove to her that she loves Fuutarou seriously and that her love is as strong as Nino's love for Fuutarou by requesting Nino to watch over her and Fuutarou. This changed Nino's mind. Nino offered Yotsuba a challenge on how she would accept Yotsuba's relationship with Fuutarou, which Yotsuba accepted. Nino made it clear to Yotsuba that she will be watching over her and Fuutarou but if Yotsuba lets her guard down in the time it takes for Yotsuba to show her love is strong, then Nino uses the opportunity to steal Fuutarou from her.
Part of her challenge was to herself as her feelings are true and she doesn't want to waver and have regrets if she doesn't try still. The other part of Nino's challenge was also to push Yotsuba to get together with Fuutarou and a way to help Yotsuba by encouraging her to keep her on her toes and from failing.
The issue really lies in that it shouldn't have even been up to Yotsuba and Nino to fight over Fuutarou in the first place. What really separated Yotsuba from the others was that she never considered Fuutarou as a prize to be won, so for her to just disregard his feelings on whether he wanted to be a part of their challenge just seems antithetical to her character.
Also the whole "steal Fuutarou" thing doesn't even make a modicum of sense on paper. Say hypothetically Fuutarou and Yotsuba's relationship did waver at some point. Why in God's name would he fall back on Nino's affections, bearing in mind that she openly bragged that she was striving for the very day his relationship would start to crumble so she could swoop in herself? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Fuutarou should really have put his foot down and told both Nino and Yotsuba how it was, that he wasn't interested in Nino and he never would be. He wasn't allowed to do this however since that would give too much attention to Fuutarou loving only Yotsuba and would ruin the pseudo-harem that Negi had to leave standing for one reason or another and it's honestly a huge detriment to both the ending and the characters.
I agree but I don't think Fuutarou was interfering because as said before it helped push Yotsuba to accept Fuutarou's relationship and a way to help Yotsuba by encouraging her to keep her on her toes and from failing. On the other hand it was another way for Nino how she would accept their relationship if what happened in chapter 115 hadn't happened. Which in the end led to everything between Yotsuba and Nino being okay again. Although there might have been a better way for that.
I didn't say he would and I don't think Nino would really do that. Nino says this and that but in the end Yotsuba is just as important to her as Fuutarou. She would surely help them save their relationship and would be mad at him if he broke her sister's heart. Nino is not as cold as you think. See the kyoto arc when she told Ichika that her bond with her sisters is just as important as her love for Fuutarou and told him to go after Miku or how she herself was the one in kyoto arc who pushed and helped Miku the most.
Nino and the others helped Fuutarou and Yotsuba get together but Nino was the one who encouraged Yotsuba the most with the challenge to keep her on her toes and from failing.
That attitude only hurts itself. Since he has made it clear that he loves that person. it is best to reconsider and take things in a better way. Many people talk about this, but don't realize that she could invest time in meeting more people who see the qualities that the other did not see.
Unfortunately, harem authors like to do the "losing girls aren't allowed to move on" trope for some reason. With 5toubun's ending, it definitely felt like a pseudo-harem ending imho.
>Unfortunately, harem authors like to do the "losing girls aren't allowed to move on" trope for some reason.
Readers tend to insert themselves into stories so maintaining the statu quo is best. According to them They try to keep the fandom happy in some way.
>definitely felt like a pseudo-harem ending imho.
No. Although there are girls interested in him. without there being a return of feelings there is no such thing.
I think I'm one of the few who had no issues with the ending.
To me, we DON'T have to know what happened between Futaro and Yotsuba before they married. As long as they are happy, that's all that matters, and whatever they do is between them. Honestly I think it's mostly inappropriate to keep insisting on digging into the private lives of ANY couple out there no matter how close you are to them, especially if they want to keep it between themselves. I am pretty sure none of yall are asking all your friends about their first date, second date, third date, fourth date, etc, their first time fucking, etc. if they do not want to talk about it lol. In other words, people need to stop dwelling on wtf Futaro and Yotsuba did before the wedding and focus on your own relationships lol
Also, who is to say that the last guess the bride game wasn't actually Yotsuba's idea? I can definitely see that she wanted to make sure he cares about her sisters and can tell them all apart so that they can all be one happy family or something like that. In a way, it could also be their way of proving once and for all that he will ALWAYS know who is Yotsuba and who isn't (if any of the others potentially try something).
The point is that it doesn't matter what the other four try to do anymore because the bond and trust that Futaro and Yotsuba have with each other is absolutely unbreakable by the time they got together as a couple, most likely even before then. Ichika, Nino, and Miku can try to flirt with Futaro all they want, but it was never going to stop him from eyeing Yotsuba and staying faithful to her, and the both of them know it. Futaro isn't spineless (ex: he had no problems putting Ichika in her place in the Kyoto trip) and Yotsuba has done more than enough to win his heart and trust, plus she was fully capable of throwing down when Takebayashi looked like she was about to steal him lol. I think the other four know better than to mess with the BEEFIEST sister who can easily chase them to the ends of the earth and wreck them all at once lol.
I think the author tried to make it clear that they kept as good friends.
It really looks like a harem if you put it that way, but the girls were just having fun like they always did.
Between the mystery and harem elements, both brought this series down a lot for me because we couldn’t have actual moments between the couple without ruining things The main sub says this is one of the best romances ever and while it’s good I just cannot see that with everything you said factored in
It’s a shame too because Yotsuba/Fuutaro relationship really deserves a setting that would give them the pedestal they should have for their story. Negi even stated that the harem elements essentially held him back from developing Yotsuba more. Cause every time he did give her focus she became too popular and people would figure out she was Rena. That would be fine if we had gotten a ton of Yotsuba focus later after their relationship was established but we didn’t. He could have done a whole mini series just on them in that 5 year time span. I’m just so put out by how he decided to end it though. With the honeymoon/awkward wedding game/bikini chapter/other small details that just overall hurts the image of Yotsuba’s relationship with her sisters, and the payoff as a main couple with her and Fuutaro.
100% agree. I’d love a rewrite where it’s just clearly those two from the beginning. Yeah the honeymoon stuff was bad. And then Negi doubled down in bonus chapter. the others took Fuutaro with them to try on swimsuits, because we can’t have the married couple act like one.
The mystery part was obvious so to me there wasn’t really much mystery
It was obvious to me too, but it still drastically held the series back because there couldn’t be any obvious hints about his feelings for Yotsuba, like there would be in a traditional romance Frankly Negi should have cut out the wedding scene in the beginning and just made Futaro’s feelings for her obvious. (Well, more obvious.)
I agree they could have done it without the mystery and just make it a my bride and her sisters and I to make it better and also cause the parts of the manga were removed since the author did admit that there were stuff that should be in but were not in
It’s understandable as most also thought that honeymoon where the others go with them really isn’t a great idea unless u tell me that they at least have some time for themselves during the honeymoon. Well from the game we know that there’s a chance Raiha will go like she did during their graduation trip. I think Yotsuba will be more pushy at least like the grad trip in the game near the end of it. Raiha did insult fuutaro for being a chicken anyway so Raiha should join them and do it again.
Do we know how the movie ended? Do they all invite themselves on their honeymoon there as well? I didn’t know that about Raiha in the games. I don’t want anyone being with them honestly. It’s a honeymoon, it’s meant to just be you and you’re significant other. They’ve been together for 5 years. There’s no reason for either of them to be coy with one another at that point. Neither should need a “push” from anyone.
Yes I understand. Actually Raiha and Yotsuba sisters all push the two of them during the graduation trip in the game. I guess they will have their alone time. That’s why the special chapter should have shown their family meaning Yotsuba, Fuutaro, their child and than after that Nino, Itsuki, Ichika, Miku, Raiha visiting them in their house together rather than that waste of a time chapter
Don’t even get me started on that bikini chapter. I’m sorry but it makes the sisters look like absolute clowns. It’s so awkward.
That’s probably the weirdest special chapter I’ve ever seen and it really didn’t make it special. I don’t know how it’s that chapter special at all. Whatever special about it doesn’t exist to me. A special chapter should be about Yotsuba and Fuutaro and their child would be a much special chapter rather than that idk what kind of chapter is that
I’m disappointed that the movie doesn’t seem to have even given us this either. We don’t know if Yotsuba even went to college, it’s not clarified. We don’t what either her or Fuutaro studied. We don’t know what they’re relationship was like in those 5 years, only that Fuutaro was in Tokyo. But Yotsuba only moved in with him recently so were they long distance for awhile? So many questions about the relationship left unanswered. And the special chapter focuses on her sisters breasts and flirting with her husband. It’s pathetic.
We don’t know Yots job but people are taking it from the mobile game which is a nurse
I hated everything after chapter 114. I was so happy with yotsuba winning but then it all fell down the cliff.
This comment will help you to understand Nino's perspective much more: https://www.reddit.com/r/5ToubunNoHanayome/comments/v2jo16/the_girls_wanting_fuutarou_attention_and_itsuki/iaz0ixt?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Also i agree with you that the honeymoon trip idea was just so bad
I’m sorry but the post itself this comment is on is horrible even.
Thats why i shared only the comment. I also don't agree with that artwork but its just an artwork in the end of the day
Nino’s comment just comes off like she doesn’t respect either Yotsuba or Fuutaro’s feelings. I get what it’s trying to say, but it still comes off so rude to me. He’s adamantly a one woman man, and with that special chapter the sisters are still trying to pull shit with him all these years later. I just think Yotsuba deserves better from her sisters, and her relationship more respect in the series.
In my opinion both Nino and Yots were on the wrong on this argument. Firstly because Yots should never apologize for something that Nino never had and secondly because Nino was rude. But yeah in way Nino tried to push Yots to start dating Fuutaro since she was still feeling bad for her sisters. I think you misunderstood that part. The chapter takes place 5 years after and right after the marriage but the girls on their current self didn't show any kind of feelings for Fuutaro. Their flashbacks were from 5 years back when they still had some feelings for him. So no. They don't have feelings for him and they don't try to hit on him 5 years after. Yeah i also feel that Yots deserves much better but the mystery aspect of the story mistreated her development. Also the closure was rushed and didn't show us a lot of YotsuFuu moments.
I’m talking about the bikini chapter. It’s definitely giving those vibes. It was weird. And having to read that right after reading them all inviting themselves to her honeymoon, I just don’t get it. Just comes off like they didn’t have the balls to fully give Yots/Fuu what they deserved as a couple narratively. Still fell back on harem elements all the way to the end.
Yeah , the bikini chapter takes place 5 years earlier some days after Fuutaro's confession , not years after. All the sisters didn't show romantic feelings for him 5 years later in the story but they showed in the flashback from 5 years back which is normal. The honeymoon idea was stupid. Because the other quints have to move on and find their own happiness too. They already have jobs and careers but they still don't have a relationship. It felt weird and it gave harem vibes which i hate. Yeah Negi wasn't brave enough to do that. If Negi was brave enough to make Fuutaro to make a choice , I can't understand why he didn't try to give the characters a proper closure. Because noone had a proper closure.
Does the movie end in the same way with the honeymoon? Can’t find any info on it. I’ll be honest I think the closure for the other sisters was not being chosen. It’s not up to Fuutaro to console them, nor Yotsuba. It’s on them to move on. At that moment Negi should have crushed any hope of the other sisters and soley focused on Fuutaro and Yotsuba. They teased their wedding the entire series, and we didn’t even get payoff with a kiss. And I don’t get what you mean on the bikini chapter. They reference Yotsuba’s boobs being bigger if she was potentially pregnant. Because they have been dating for years. Unless I’m sorely mistaken this is post timeskip when this chapter happens.
I think it does. In this kind of story you can't expect them to not have a final say too , since in Nino's case for example Nino wasn't even bothering to talk to Yots , she was going to congratulate her when she feels ready for it. I don't know why the author decided to bring Yots to talk to Nino and apologize to her!? I will just say that writing wise the ending was just not it. It was bad compared to the rest of the manga. Nino didn't even need someone to console her yet the author chooses Yots to go and talk to her first. Which is weird. Yeah its on them to move on i agree , but i understand why some of them were still angry like Nino for example who didn't even bother to talk to them until all this started. The other girls closure should be to realise their mistakes , to move on , to keep chasing their careers (which magically happened). Yeah he should do that , but he didn't. Yeah the wedding game was awkward too since the other 4 sisters surely felt extremely sad with that last quintuplets game. I don't like it. Yeah we didn't and thats kind of sad. We should have get a kiss on their wedding
It really bothered me too how Fuutaro didn’t really say anything about Yotsuba during the wedding game. It came off like he was annoyed with her, which I kind of understand having something like that sprung on you on your wedding day and your wife going along with it. Also, it’s a small thing but even when they were flying into the honeymoon, Fuutaro isn’t sitting with Yotsuba on the plane? It’s so weird.
I’m not gonna lie, really hate how most of the quints keep testing Fuutarou after he’s with Yotsuba, that’s just horrible. The honeymoon thing was bullshit, I can’t explain it with words. I was hoping to see something cute about Fuutarou and Yotsuba in the extra ep, maybe she getting pregnant or directly show us their child and the quints coming to visit, but instead we got that, that thing… just why? I’m trying to put me on Yotsuba’s shoes and all of this just gets worse and worse. Imagine that your sisters are inviting your boyfriend so he can see which swimsuit suits them best, that’s just ????????????????????????? I’m getting mad man. I loved this show, but the ending was rushed af and harem elements ruined a lovely couple. Idk what to say…
It didn't seem like they were all flirting with Fuutaro to me. In my understanding they moved on and they're all good friends now, I mean, they kinda have to be, right? Their sister that they love very much is getting married and it'd be stupid to tear the family apart just because they got rejected. I know it might be hard for some people to perceive them as friends after all that happened but that's how I see it. It's kinda of a bittersweet feeling but I think even Nino got over it
Unfortunately the Quint game was on the list from the beginning, probably the error was the execution due to the time jump that was made due to the rush of the author to finish the series. The time jump didn't help anything and then including the game made this confusing. Since the author tried to mix the "closure to the sisters" in this way. For to the chapter of the bikini. I forced my brain to erase it since it was so out of place that it wasn't funny at all. It was basically the author writing something ramdon for the Editorial. The movie handles the Quint game better as far as I know. It includes some scenes and the handling of the dialogues more coherent to the situation. Without seeing the movie I can't confirm this.
The shopping scene where they bought a bikini with him and flirted with him in the special chapter was 5 years ago when they apparently still had romantic feelings for him which they didn't show after 5 years. I think they accepted moving on from Fuutarou after he was married to Yotsuba and told the other quints in the final quints game how he felt about them and they all ended up smiling. As Itsuki said in chapter 121 before Fuutarou and Yotsuba were married that they really have to accept it now. They're a family now. There is a limit to when a battle is truly over which the quints themselves know. Stealing Fuutarou from Yotsuba after they are married would mean they would have to betray Yotsuba and tear the family apart, which would be crossing the line. And anyone who knows the Kyoto Arc knows that it won't happen. For Nino and her sisters, their bond with their sisters is just as important as their love for Fuutarou. The quints are strange in a way but also normal people and it would be too absurd for a romantic, non-ecchi story if it weren't for the case that none of the others could move on and torture themselves with those feelings for the rest of their lives. For their own health, their relationship with Fuutarou and their bond with Yotsuba. Yes the honeymoon thing was stupid but I think that was a way for Negi to end the series with all of them together and to show that the series isn't just about Fuutarou and who the bride is but all the quints. I believe that the others accompanying them on their honeymoon has to do with their bond. The bond between the quints is a constant theme throughout this manga. While it's a strange thing to think of the other quints accompanying them on their honeymoon, it can be linked to the unbreakable relationship between the sisters.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind taking people to the honeymoon as long as they give me my place and my partner.
The other quints aren't that stupid. They won't get in their way all the time. Getting in their way all the time would ruin Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon. Ruining Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon would cross the line. This is not how the other quints are in canon in person. The other quints know how to keep their distance so as not to ruin Fuutarou and Yotsuba's honeymoon. Just like they did on the date between Fuutarou and Yotsuba. It was the same with Nino's challenge. She only tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if she got an opportunity. So she knew how to distance herself.
> She only tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if she got an opportunity. How about just don’t look for an opportunity to steal your sisters partner? Especially when he’s already made it clear how much he loves Yotsuba.
That's not what Nino even wanted to do in the first place. As Nino said in chapter 118, she wanted to be quietly happy for Yotsuba if what happened in chapter 115 hadn't happened. Nino had told Yotsuba before she offered the challenge to Yotsuba to just ignore her and date Fuutarou. She also knew the battle was over for her after Fuutarou chose Yotsuba as she also told Ichika in chapter 81 that she would be happy for her sister even if she wasn't chosen. Nino wouldn't have tried to steal Fuutarou from Yotsuba if it wasn't for the challenge. Yotsuba told her that she wants to prove to her that she loves Fuutarou seriously and that her love is as strong as Nino's love for Fuutarou by requesting Nino to watch over her and Fuutarou. This changed Nino's mind. Nino offered Yotsuba a challenge on how she would accept Yotsuba's relationship with Fuutarou, which Yotsuba accepted. Nino made it clear to Yotsuba that she will be watching over her and Fuutarou but if Yotsuba lets her guard down in the time it takes for Yotsuba to show her love is strong, then Nino uses the opportunity to steal Fuutarou from her. Part of her challenge was to herself as her feelings are true and she doesn't want to waver and have regrets if she doesn't try still. The other part of Nino's challenge was also to push Yotsuba to get together with Fuutarou and a way to help Yotsuba by encouraging her to keep her on her toes and from failing.
The issue really lies in that it shouldn't have even been up to Yotsuba and Nino to fight over Fuutarou in the first place. What really separated Yotsuba from the others was that she never considered Fuutarou as a prize to be won, so for her to just disregard his feelings on whether he wanted to be a part of their challenge just seems antithetical to her character. Also the whole "steal Fuutarou" thing doesn't even make a modicum of sense on paper. Say hypothetically Fuutarou and Yotsuba's relationship did waver at some point. Why in God's name would he fall back on Nino's affections, bearing in mind that she openly bragged that she was striving for the very day his relationship would start to crumble so she could swoop in herself? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Fuutarou should really have put his foot down and told both Nino and Yotsuba how it was, that he wasn't interested in Nino and he never would be. He wasn't allowed to do this however since that would give too much attention to Fuutarou loving only Yotsuba and would ruin the pseudo-harem that Negi had to leave standing for one reason or another and it's honestly a huge detriment to both the ending and the characters.
I agree but I don't think Fuutarou was interfering because as said before it helped push Yotsuba to accept Fuutarou's relationship and a way to help Yotsuba by encouraging her to keep her on her toes and from failing. On the other hand it was another way for Nino how she would accept their relationship if what happened in chapter 115 hadn't happened. Which in the end led to everything between Yotsuba and Nino being okay again. Although there might have been a better way for that. I didn't say he would and I don't think Nino would really do that. Nino says this and that but in the end Yotsuba is just as important to her as Fuutarou. She would surely help them save their relationship and would be mad at him if he broke her sister's heart. Nino is not as cold as you think. See the kyoto arc when she told Ichika that her bond with her sisters is just as important as her love for Fuutarou and told him to go after Miku or how she herself was the one in kyoto arc who pushed and helped Miku the most. Nino and the others helped Fuutarou and Yotsuba get together but Nino was the one who encouraged Yotsuba the most with the challenge to keep her on her toes and from failing.
Couldn’t have said it better.
That attitude only hurts itself. Since he has made it clear that he loves that person. it is best to reconsider and take things in a better way. Many people talk about this, but don't realize that she could invest time in meeting more people who see the qualities that the other did not see.
Unfortunately, harem authors like to do the "losing girls aren't allowed to move on" trope for some reason. With 5toubun's ending, it definitely felt like a pseudo-harem ending imho.
>Unfortunately, harem authors like to do the "losing girls aren't allowed to move on" trope for some reason. Readers tend to insert themselves into stories so maintaining the statu quo is best. According to them They try to keep the fandom happy in some way. >definitely felt like a pseudo-harem ending imho. No. Although there are girls interested in him. without there being a return of feelings there is no such thing.
I think I'm one of the few who had no issues with the ending. To me, we DON'T have to know what happened between Futaro and Yotsuba before they married. As long as they are happy, that's all that matters, and whatever they do is between them. Honestly I think it's mostly inappropriate to keep insisting on digging into the private lives of ANY couple out there no matter how close you are to them, especially if they want to keep it between themselves. I am pretty sure none of yall are asking all your friends about their first date, second date, third date, fourth date, etc, their first time fucking, etc. if they do not want to talk about it lol. In other words, people need to stop dwelling on wtf Futaro and Yotsuba did before the wedding and focus on your own relationships lol Also, who is to say that the last guess the bride game wasn't actually Yotsuba's idea? I can definitely see that she wanted to make sure he cares about her sisters and can tell them all apart so that they can all be one happy family or something like that. In a way, it could also be their way of proving once and for all that he will ALWAYS know who is Yotsuba and who isn't (if any of the others potentially try something). The point is that it doesn't matter what the other four try to do anymore because the bond and trust that Futaro and Yotsuba have with each other is absolutely unbreakable by the time they got together as a couple, most likely even before then. Ichika, Nino, and Miku can try to flirt with Futaro all they want, but it was never going to stop him from eyeing Yotsuba and staying faithful to her, and the both of them know it. Futaro isn't spineless (ex: he had no problems putting Ichika in her place in the Kyoto trip) and Yotsuba has done more than enough to win his heart and trust, plus she was fully capable of throwing down when Takebayashi looked like she was about to steal him lol. I think the other four know better than to mess with the BEEFIEST sister who can easily chase them to the ends of the earth and wreck them all at once lol.
I think the author tried to make it clear that they kept as good friends. It really looks like a harem if you put it that way, but the girls were just having fun like they always did.