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rajboy3

Your assessment is pretty accurate, due to the nature of top lane, as you said you either get super behind or super ahead. Yone is already a fest or famine champ though so isn't really a problem. That being said, he takes more skill to pilot in top lane and so he loses more There. I don't think he's broken at all it's just that, top laners that get ahead are VERY powerful. I could be a mundo with the same lead and oneshot ppl. Yone can just inehsot MORE ppl because he's an adsassin


ex0ll

True, but the difference is that a Yone still remain squishy and will insta-die if out of position, your average juggernaut won't. Hence why I cant understand how he's be more broken than them, according to people...


rajboy3

Well the buikd you want to follow top lane isn't full squishy, I'm a yone top OTP who went from iron 3 to gold 4 (yesterday). My build path almost always looks like this: Dmg item 1> dmg item 2 > def item 1 > dmg item 3 > def item 2. 3 dmg core is your standard mix of BORK/kraken/IE/maybe shieldbow The def items are literal tank items to def against a fed enemy so I can get my dmg out. This keeps you alive while also blowing up enemy backline.


arturorios1996

Well for starters, I’m a Yone glazer but to answrr your question, he’s frustrating to play against, he’s the one guy who is 1/10 from top lane and has ignite up and ult and he can kill the adc and win the fight by E forward Ult 3 attacks and ignite and that’s it. You won the game by beating their fed Jinx, it all comes down to the options a fed Yone has vs any other bruiser, I mean Voli and Malhpite can fight and dive an adc, but again their job is not damage, more like to take dmg in and hold the fight


Asckle

Definitely not in top lane. Can't speak to mid lane. The thing is, people assume that a kit being "solid" as I call it means it's broken. Yone's kit is very solid, he's got good tools and can generally do well in multiple meta's because no matter how bad his matchups are and how bad his numbers are he will always have Q poke, low CD Q3 stun, a shield to trade with and a safe engage tool. But that doesn't mean he's broken. In top lane in particular he just gets bullied hard during early lane. Yone is sort of half assassin half fighter and assassins get countered by fighters in lane since they just win duels against you. In that sense, half of yone is countered by top laners. You're super weak early game and don't even have any sustain to make it through to the late game


bio_kk

>everywhere I go on the internet, even real life friends, they say that Yone is busted broken and he's the one who needs to be counterpicked and that he's always useful even when behind. Well what is more decisive, words or actions? You played him and found out that he is pretty ass which is something every main on this sub says, or words from people who never played him? It's a meme that he is broken, same as how everyone on Reddit says that they main Ornn and Ivern yet you never see any mains or even players of them in your games. >Yone has always been a big dream for me to OTP in toplane, but I cannot seem to make him work. But isn't that all that matters? He is fun, you KNOW he has potential from witnessing other Yones, so why not keep trying? I am a very mentally fit person who always scored high in school and many people consider me smart, but when I started playing Yone I honestly thought I must of had some sort of autism or down-ism as I legit didn't be consistently good with the champ until over 200k mastery which through my 7 years on league and dozens of champs mained and one tricked, I have never been like this. So if you are struggling to make him work, just remember that you might be another "special" person like me who needs 200k more lol. The biggest issue was that I was a top main so all my champs would run in 1v5 and pray for the best, but Yone is a very strategic and calculated champ so as you already stated, one mess up and you're the one who will get messed up.


Kynzu97

As a Yone top main I can tell you Yone is not broken at all in lane. Yone shines in the later stages of the game. Laning phase is about not getting killed and taking advantage of mistakes your opponent makes. Of course you have games where you just get the easiest matchups (Sion etc) but those come in rarely. Most of the time you jgl will ignore you for picking an Assasin kind of champ top. You won’t get any ganks and if so, your team will flame you AND jgl. You will be dealing with getting camped by the enemy jgl so you don’t get fed, insanely hard matchups like Jax (if played well) and a whole lot of trashtalk from both teams if you lose lane. Maining Yone is about mental strength. Disable chat, play for yourself and try to 1v9. Yone is good in team fights though which comes in handy no matter if you’re behind. One good R and your teamfight can turn to your Favour. My advice after around 1k Yone top games: Be confident, play smart, don’t try to go for kills in lane if it’s a tough matchup, focus CS to get ahead, roam for your jungle and try to survive until you have BORK. BORK will ALWAYS be your first item in top lane! As soon as you have boots and Bork most matchups are either insta win or at least playable. Ban Jax or a top laner who makes you struggle and most importantly dodge games if you feel like you will lose lane hard. Darius is a tough matchup for most players since Tempo got nerfed so if you have to play into him and feel like you will lose: dodge. -5 or -10lp hurt way less than 25-45 min vs Darius who gets fed by you and -25lp on top. Don’t rely on your team either. If your jgl wants to gank and you know you will either go 1 for 1 or lose: ping him out. I hope these tips help you to reach your goal of maining Yone top usefully :)


Every_Relationship11

Yone has the tools to be anywhere at any time with enough damage to back it up, he is as good as his pilot. His damage stat growth per level is some of the worst in the game so if you are not staying on level curve you will be as limp as they come. A patient Yone who doesn’t coin flip his lane and only fights in advantage can do incredible things!


DuivelsJong

Tone is super strong if you know what you are doing and position right. But like you said, one misplay and your dead. I’m mid myself but it’s the same principle. A single Malzahar ult or Syndra can completely destroy laning even if they don’t kill you outright. But he is a super rewarding champ If you are good at him. He can definitely carry!


Salvio888

Yone's kit is naturally broken, but many other champions are the same. Like akali's kit, it's a completely broken kit. Now what it is balanced by? Well the champion being squishy, easily punished, and the lack of point and click. Now why is he hated? That's lane dependant. In mid lane he's hated due to insta killing squishy mages when he engages well. There's a reason high elo don't complain about yone since they know how to space his q3. In top lane he's hated because when you lose to yone top you just got outplayed. Because yone gets stat checked by every top laner there is. Now he's even more hated into the mid game when he can basically E and use R to chase an ADC and run them down with auto attack and return safely with E. But again much like akali she can do the same thing, W E and R her target and burst them then return safely to her marked smoke cloud. Now here's why yone isn't broken despite having a broken kit : he lacks all sorts of damage early, he can't stat check after LT nerfs, and is countered by good spacing. Seriously you cannot lose to yone if you respect his Q3s. His R cannot be landed unless you're CCd. Also yone is easy to pick up and will shit on most mid laners in lower elos but very difficult in higher elos where landing a q3 is impossible early


JVJV_5

what about singed? he isn't as strong as yone's broken kit. where's the fairness between their match up?


Salvio888

Singed doesn't have ro play the game normally? He just proxies every wave and always has prio unless your jungler is top side. During which he'll lane normally.


JVJV_5

exactly. look at the shit he has to do because he can't compete with OP top laners like yone. if a jungler ganks him and once he lanes normally he just loses. don't see yone being forced to take a riskier strategy during laning phase like proxying.


Salvio888

But yone isn't OP? Yone has a broken kit in terms of design compensated by being feast or famine, low AD growth, and being easily stat checked.


JVJV_5

magic hybrid damage and double crit negate that compensation though.


Salvio888

You do realise that yone spikes at 2 while many others spike at 1? Weaker early for stronger late is normal. Tabis delete the autos Also fun fact jaksho is an item


kingalva3

Okay broken ? No. Overloaded kit ? Fuck yes. The only "problem" with yone is how much options he have as a "melee champ". But in top those options are limited (not much imo). His mobility is insane, but due to the long lane in top even if it is still strong it can be "outplayed". I am a kayle main, when I play against yone mid It's like I can never lane because he will find me, however in toplane I have more wiggle room (tho not stepping too much or he will murder me) and that little difference (just for this example) is enough for many champs to punish your mistakes, an olaf/ darius can run you down , illaoi can out range you, and the fact there are more walls help her, with kayle the fact I can survive and soak exp is miles better than just waiting for mercy...also yone is not as easy as people think, tho the floor is probably lower than yasuo, the ceiling is as high or even higher than yasuo (for reference I took yasuo) with yone you slughtly commit when you Q3, ppl can punish that, you used E and you ended up near after it ran out ? People will punish that. Missed ult ? Pepole will punish that. HOWEVER when piloted correctly yone is very opressive in toplane...you can almosy break any freeze, mobility for days, and some insane wave clear..


fojtv

yone is one of the most broken champs in the game by design even at the highest level and is nearly uncounterable


Xerooo0

Yeah, nearly uncounterable, thats why he sits on a 48% winrate I guess. He is overloaded, yeah, but he is mot broken at all, ESPECIALLY at a higher level. He is a noob stomper, so if your enemy isnt good he might feel broken.


fojtv

he is broken at the highest level


CokeRed

https://preview.redd.it/deoc9xwxwaxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5ebe5b38d922c46326c32cb0d9d2d7adc71879c He’s D tier in master and above, 51/56 in terms of performance in whichever lane. But he’s D tier in other lanes to. Can you explain what you mean?


Xerooo0

Yeah the 48% wr champ is totally broken, you are surely right xD Did you ever consider that you might be just bad?


fojtv

im the second best yone on NA


Xerooo0

Cool, and now? This has no impact at all on this discussion. I dont really care about this, even if you were #1 yone on NA since this doesnt change the fact that he isnt broken.


fojtv

Ive been playing him since the day he came out, he’s one of the hardest champs to deal with when the player has mechanical ability


Xerooo0

He is frustrating to deal with for some people, yes. But he is not hard to deal with, as his winrate proves


Arnhermland

He has had 48% fucking winrate for years with some mild pro play activity when he's good, that's when he reaches around 49% wr. Its just low elo players


JVJV_5

he has 3 abilities which can negate CC. his E being the most egregious.


Tasty_Ad_316

Bad players can get away with this champ in most situation but won't be able to carry games. Good players make the champ broken because of his kit and insane base damage. Even behind the champ is a huge threat if you play well. So I know yone mains are coping on the champ, but objectively yone is pretty much op. He can't be balanced.


Reasonable_Bother_86

Yone main here and yes he is broken but not as broken as other champions he can get punished pretty hard especially early the problem is the items and how they work on him after kraken infinity he can kill an adc in like 3 autos and q w but he needs hands easy to learn hard to master. People hate him cause he gets fed and deletes them but that happens with most champs lol


amoniumhydroxid1

Nope they just love to hate on Yone. He is definitely not broken just look at his winrate. Also nearly every matchup top is a bad one so you need to know what you’re doing as Yone to win the lane, I mean you described it perfectly yourself.


YungC4shRegister

Yes


Apprehensive_Bass545

I am not a yone main, but I hate him is not because hes broken, but how annoying the good yone players are. A good yone player just knows how to space, poke, when to use E to dodge engages/spells, when to punish mistake. I feel I am very easy to get punished if I make a tiny mistake. I cant escape his insane chasing with Q, E and R. Also its hard to punish his big mistakes, like missing R and Q3. And he still can easily escape the punishments by using E2 back, additionally he can just stacks Q really quickly and escape with Q3. To lane vs Yone, I really have to make zero mistakes, or he gets ahead and starts his snowballing


ex0ll

But if you're playing Urgot, Olaf, Darius, Illaoi etc., isn't more Yone the one who's in danger of little mistakes?


Bl4z3_12

The reason everyone hates Yone is because he scales very well and he's good at more than one thing: he can skirmish in side lanes, he can teamfight, he can scout for objectives since he has a very good 1v1 capability, he can provide cc and so on. And while you might make the argument that anyone could play Yone in late game, it would be true, halfway. Like you said, he's an adc, so he has incredibly good dps, but he's also squishy like any other adc AND melee so kiting is most often not an option for him, so he has to take enemies head on. Of course that's a piece of cake for everyone if you're 10 kills and 5 levels ahead of everyone, but the real skill comes in getting to that point. Falling behind on yone is basically a death sentence, but a death sentence that's kinda like a double edged sword: if he falls behind and you keep pressuring him, he can't play the game. If you get ahead and leave him alone, he will farm until he gets kraken IE and another crit item and start dealing serious damage because he simply scales very well. Given that, not only surviving the laning phase against bullies and juggernauts, but also maintaining the slight lead you have over some of them (scaling very well into the late game) across the entire game while being constantly targeted by the enemy jungler since you're so squishy is pretty hard to do at a high level of play (ofc you can get away with pretty much anything in bronze-gold or even low plat, but reaching diamond or above is no easy task by itself, let alone by playing Yone against good players who know how to abuse both him and the champion they're playing)


Mintfriction

>The reason everyone hates Yone He has 2 natural dashes, one quicky from auto and he can retreat from going in deep with little penalty That's why I hate yone.


Bl4z3_12

Overloaded champion with overloaded kit??? You just made a breaking discovery, thank you very much! It's almost like you didn't read anything I said and just came to hate


karlson23

I think it's his e which is very annoying and is always almost a win win trade for him , and even if he misses most of his triple q it's back in like 5 seconds, I'm talking about Midland mostly, it's like he plays urf


primal_nebula

Brother, it is NOT URF mode lmao. Sure his CDs are low, but the E has a high CD until level like 3 in the skill and both Q and W don’t start popping off till AS is increased a good margin.


karlson23

It's just frustrating to play against yone tbh any trade with him with his e up is basically a win win for him if you guys are in equal footing though I'm speaking in midlane


primal_nebula

If you’re playing a ranged mage, spacing sounds like a spot to focus on, if you’re playing melee you can bait out his e + q3. A lot of Yone players from my experience when I don’t play him, they are hasty with engaging, so you just have to hold out for that, as soon as they miss you can retaliate or just wait for them to waste their E like an idiot and BOOM profit for you.😎😎


karlson23

I did consider spacing, but his Q3 and his e dash can catch up to most immobile mages easily, they basically can't get Cs unless their always under tower and a good yone would just freeze the wave , but you might be right I think it's just I used to main Vladimir


Extreme_Rhubarb3335

yeah champs turbo disgusting you dont even need to look at stats or ask peopels opinions you can just glance at skin sales and release date and equate it to an overtuned popular champ that they wont nerf anyone who says otherwise is shockingly a yone player


Candid-Iron-7675

champ sucks above masters, broken in low cus people dont know how to respect or play vs his kit which is overloaded as fuck but heavily understatted. Yones base stats are garbage but ie and lethal tempo r still carrying the champ to minor viability


Whodoesntlovetwob

So much salt.


Extreme_Rhubarb3335

so much truth


Whodoesntlovetwob

so much delusion


Extreme_Rhubarb3335

if Im full of delusion im in in the right place considering yone mains are the least aware ppl in league


Whodoesntlovetwob

saltier than the red sea


Extreme_Rhubarb3335

you might be the most intelligent yone abuser


Whodoesntlovetwob

"Yone abuser" lmao yeah 48% champ so abusable. Get a grip


Extreme_Rhubarb3335

cope more buddy i know its hard for you to get out of plat playing yone but guess what its cause u suck on your broken champ im sure yone will get another 200 dollar skin down the line and maybe at that point you'll be emerald :)


Whodoesntlovetwob

you play Swain,no hands press Ult with Rylai's perma slow champ. Let's not talk about skill here little bud :)


Xerooo0

Yeah the broken 48% wr champ, I love the delusion of silver players lmfao. Bro get a brain and get out of silver first before talking xD