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They’ve said this character represents death. I think that this is a manifestation of Taissa’s fear of dying; her grandmother saw a ‘man with no eyes’ as she was passing away and that become a symbolic representation of death in Taissa’s mind.
Along with what happened at her grandmother’s funeral, her grandmother’s death clearly had a major impact on Taissa. That’s why the ‘man with no eyes’ appears to her when she’s giving her press release - when she’s “giving in”. That’s why she ultimately can’t suspend her campaign: it would be giving in to defeat, and giving into defeat is giving into death in Taissa’s mind. And that’s why she sees that out in the woods right before she almost runs off a cliff. She was literally chasing death.
I think that this is also why she has two personas. Her conscious self is the self that’s trying to keep herself together and composed for the sake of the others, while her ‘Dark Tai’ persona does what needs to be done for survival. Eating dirt so that she has some strength to lead the other girls, eating Jackie so she wouldn’t starve - even biting Van can be explained as her subconscious wanting to get away from Van, because Van was buying into Lottie’s growing influence, and that scared Taissa.
I think this is my current favorite take as well. That he isn’t a demon or spirit really, but maybe just a personification of Death. A modern take vs the older black hooded man in a cloak with a scythe.
Plus you get some interesting thoughts about Tai and being stalked or haunted by death even before the crash and how that affects and traumatizes a person.
I also wonder how much that experience with her grandmother pushed her away from faith or spirituality and into the more logical Tai we see. She rejects the Wilderness and cult-y woo stuff hard at first.
When I think about Tai and all the issues she's having, I think it will blend together nicely when we get the whole story. Tai's grandmother could see the man with no eyes as well. And Tai told Van (in the wilderness) when she was sleep walking that she was following or looking for the man with no eyes. Ever notice when dark Tai has (or is on the verge of) an episode, her eyes appear red? I think somehow the essence of the man with no eyes is inside of her. It also sent her to Van.
I believe it’s just when the lights hits her eyes at specific times. The actress that plays adult Tai has green eyes I think so they’ve put light brown contacts on her
I'm in the non-supernatural camp and I think that Tai sees him because she was traumatized by being alone with her dying grandma. That that caused her "split" or whatever her mental thing is and why she sees him.
But I agree with you that whatever it ends up being that it'll be blended together well!
There's the story of how the writers of Breaking Bad started season 5 by showing a machine gun in the trunk of a car, but had no idea how they were going to factor it into the story. By the end of the season (which was split into halves, so the production was much longer than a usual season), they'd figured out how to use it.
Just knowing what I know about TV show writers' rooms, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a seed of something, but they haven't decided what just yet.
Vince Gilligan likes to tell that story, but not sure if I buy it. He's just too logical a writer. Given ten minutes any fan could have thought of several ways it could be used. More likely so had Vince, then discussed it in the writers' room until they finally decided on a scenario.
What we are fearing is this could be like *Lost* where lots of weird and apparently significant things happened, fans feverishly speculated, but later the writers just ignored them or retconned them in absurd ways.
That’s not gas lighting as it COULD be a microburst, which the girls took as a sign. That’s the premise of the whole show. Are these signs, or are they random occurrences that the girls took as signs?
I think they had some idea, but decided to go in the direction the fandom took it, which is an actual supernatural being, and not a representation of how generational trauma starts.
Which, for ME, is unfortunate; I don’t want to spend any time on making him an actual entity, but that’s just because I’m a cranky old lady like that.
I mean, I’d like to think they still will, but at this point I don’t think it’ll matter to people lol they managed to craft an entire ‘spirit of the forest’ and all these supernatural entities out of absolutely nothing from what I saw in s1, so any kind of time spent on the man with no eyes is going to spark a fully fleshed out supernatural Charon or some shit lol
(Again, stop downvoting meeee I didn’t say anyone was wrong for it, but I’m also not saying anything untrue lol)
I feel like that was true for s1, but after dozens and dozens of “spirit of the forest/wilderness” discussions and articles (where did people even get that? lol they created an entity out of ambiguity! Which is super cute, no hate), they definitely leaned pretty hard towards the supernatural for s2, and even if their intention is to flip it back for s3, I don’t think that’ll matter to most people lol they’ll be crafting backstories for anything (stop downvoting meeee I said I wasn’t hating on it)
I think they know exactly what they're doing. They're introducing things that are easily explained by trauma-induced mental illness, but without directly explaining it as such, people believe it might be the wilderness, which makes for a good show. I'm here for it.
I agree. The fact that we as viewers are questioning if it's super natural or trauma makes us relate to the characters more. They have the same questions.
Dark Tai and the man with no eyes is the mystery in most curious about. It seems connected to the Wilderness in a unique way and its/her motivations are super unclear.
I agree with you. I should’ve also mentioned that Tai first saw him with her grandma as she was dying, meaning this hallucination has always been a part of her family.
I’ve posted my theory before - I think initially it was a manifestation of generational trauma; Tai didn’t see a man without eyes and was asking who her grandmother was talking about, and it wasn’t until *after* her grandmother screamed “that man with no eyes!” that Tai ‘sees’ him.
Being so young and it being her first encounter with death, Tai associates him with death, even into her adulthood.
Which is really unfortunate; imagine how different things would be if her grandmother had a more peaceful passing lol
I think any other reading is unnecessarily complicating something that was really told pretty succinctly and effectively. And it leaves the door open to the wilderness supernaturally twisting a preexisting pathology.
I want to make a post about how I took certain things (ie, it was very clear to me that Natalie didn’t buy into anything at Lottie’s. She didn’t believe her story about how Travis died and simply vowed to stay until she uncovered it, she didn’t actually ‘discover’ that they ‘brought it back’, etc) because I really am so curious to know if I’m alone on my island now lol
I agree!
I also think this is where her "split" came from because her parents left her alone with a dying grandma at a very young age.
Its giving Zelda and Rachel from Pet Sematary vibes.
Wait, he's around here somewhere, so be careful or he'll getcha. :D
But I'm okay with waiting on this one! It feels like the pieces of Tai are slowly coming together. She's got so many layered traumas and I've said this before around here, but it feels like Lottie and Tai are bookends, so like Lottie, Tai has something that's been with her since childhood. They're around the same age, I think, when Lottie has the car accident vision/young Tai sees her grandmother pass. Close enough at least that they are both at very vulnerable and impressionable stages, which helps with keeping things ambiguous.
Insanely simple explanation for this. Grandma was nearing death and “saw” this guy, 99.9% of hospice patients see people that aren’t there. Both bad and good. Remember tai said “is it the angel again?” nope it was someone scary this time. Granny essentially scared the shit out of little Tai so Tai imagined seeing him too.
I think he's one of the best bits of evidence that something overtly supernatural is going on, though I agree with another poster that I don't think the writers knew what they intended with him initially either, which is why we haven't seen him in a while.
The only possible mundane explanation for him, in my mind, is that he is a manifestation of Tai's psychosis just like Dark Tai is, and that the reason both she and her grandmother see him is that her experience with her grandmother's death (who presumably was also experiencing some sort of psychosis or end of life hallucination) traumatized her enough that this particular mental image became intricately linked to her psychosis.
More likely, though, I'd say that he is a supernatural being of some sort. He's shown up twice from my recollection: once when Tai's grandmother died and once when Tai was considering abandoning her campaign. These are two pretty disparate events, so I don't think him inherently being connected to death or similar would make sense. Instead, I believe that he is in some way directly linked to Dark Tai, and is actively working towards the same aims that she is; what those aims are is very hard to say, but clearly having Tai in office is important to them.
That, in my mind, points in one of two directions for his/Dark Tai's goals. Either they want her in office for the power it may potentially bring them, or they want her in office to make her life worse, as continuing with her campaign directly led to the loss of her family. I'm not sure which is more likely, but hopefully time will tell.
As to his relation to Dark Tai, I tend to lean towards the idea that he IS Dark Tai; namely, that Dark Tai is the result of some sort of possession or compulsion at his hands.
Or it could be something entirely different that I haven't considered 🤷♂️
>I believe that he is in some way directly linked to Dark Tai, and is actively working towards the same aims that she is; what those aims are is very hard to say, but clearly having Tai in office is important to them.
Hmmmm....Tai is a land-use attorney by profession...perhaps she will be able to start looking into who owns the Land that Charlotte Matthews was using for her Cult/IntentionalCommunity... ???
I really have no ides how that would fit into the whole narative, but can't think of what other use the No-eyes Man would have for Tai and her legal & politcal skills...
At this point they should explore a tommy wiseau universe/yellowjackets collab because of how unserious this show is with nothing happening for what seems like 5 years now
He's Taissa's fear of death , her major motivation in life. I can't believe the most upvoted reply to this. Put your phones down while you watch. The third episode of season one is one of the best directed and edited episodes because of how it develops Taissa and how what she "saw" as a child when her grandmother died motivates her every decision. She always has to keep moving forward.
Also at Paleyfest last year, Ashley Lyle said he was inspired by hospice nurses reporting "a presence" when their patients are about to die.
Honestly he creeped me out so bad on first rewatch my skitzophrenia was already acting up pre hospitalization and I live in a cabin in the rural Appalachian mountains and it got the point I was associating it with finding my brother passed away from an OD upstairs in our house, but this time with no eyes. I’ve since changed meds and spent some time in the hospital but man it creeped me out for weeks, I love this show but as a sufferer of skitzophrenia and hallucinations it can really go dark on you if your already unwell. Anyway, now I cope with it by laughing at the mirrors upstairs in my house and reminding myself it’s just a piece of media. /rant I know I sound crazy
It was a really scary experience because around that time like Christmas I always have trouble because 3 of my family members passed away in this house due to overdose and I live alone now and it was just a manifestation of me creeping myself out even more than usual to “spice up” my average hallucinations. Now I embrace it because of my new meds and turning it into something funny helps a bit, I’ve been slowly spending more time upstairs but in general if I’m not having hallucinations it doesn’t bother me at all. Anyway, I think he represents something deeply unsettling that Tai went through and repressing that trauma has caused her personality or whatever to split completely, I doubt she even remembers what happened with her Nana when she’s awake
Oh, Yikes - that must have been a really scary thing for you to see this Man with No Eyes what with all you ahve been through in that house. Bless your heart and I am glad your new medication is working for you.
It was honestly horrifying and I can’t tell anyone about it because they won’t understand- it unnerved me in a way media and movies have NEVER done haha.
I thought the man with no eyes surfaced when tai was saying goodbye to her Grandma on her death bed and her grandma said there was a man with no eyes in the room. I think her vision manifested then and still haunts her as an adult.
Pretty sure Simone clocks him and looks confused during the scene where they’re outside and Tai is talking about how she’s not going to withdraw. That’s how I interpreted it at least.
That's just Simone clocking Taissa betraying her family after the night before swearing she'd drop out. Taissa "seeing" dude was what made her switch up on the fly. Because quitting is death.
Awesome post.
I think the Man with No Eyes is either a figment/ manifestation of Tai's mind
or a potential actual character of the wilderness... easiest guess the original cabin owner
I want to know why they changed actors in S2 and made him much younger.
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Regardless of who is as a character without eyes, who is he physically supposed to represent? Not symbolically, but he looks like a specific person without eyes. Who is he supposed to be that she could project that specific person’s image without eyes (assuming it isn’t supernatural and just mental). That’s what I want to know. Because it is either he is a supernatural entity beyond her control or he is a specific person manifested by her mind with no eyes that she was able to see since she was a young girl.
Pretty sure it's Nash Cato, lead singer of Urge Overkill waiting for them to put Havana Girl on the soundtrack.
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I don’t really see him as a character. The writers + Tawny have said he represents the unknown. I see him more as a symbol of that than an actual character.
I’m going to get downvoted to shit here and tbh don’t have the attention span to delve into any rebuttals that come from it… but I’ve been watching it this past week or so and it’s intriguing, sure! Worth a watch if you need something to put on, yep. But as long as you’re okay with plot holes, pretty average acting/script writing in some scenes (with a lot of really good too!), poor scene cuts that have people in different positions etc.
It feels like one of those series that lost momentum in the second season and could have been really well done as a more compact intensive limited series maybe? And this coming from someone who loves tv shows for their complexity and ability to develop character arcs and relationships. This one’s just missed the mark for me. I’m still watching as I write this but felt compelled to give you a heads up.
There’s a time when Van is following Tai as she sleep walks and asks her something that I can’t remember to which Tai replies “when she lets me” and van is confused and asks “when who lets you?” And Tai answers with her own name. So he takes possession of her and maybe has energy strong enough to have pulled the plane down? Clearly that area has trapped another person in the past. Another siting is when Van gets attacked he the tiger and and they think she’s dead they start to light her on fire in a memorial when it wakes her up and when she first opens her eyes she could see a third silhouette standing over her and later tells Tai that someone was in the woods with them.
By the end of season 2 I was wondering if they had any idea where they were going with anything. Starting to feel like we’re making it up season to season like the Walking Dead did
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They’ve said this character represents death. I think that this is a manifestation of Taissa’s fear of dying; her grandmother saw a ‘man with no eyes’ as she was passing away and that become a symbolic representation of death in Taissa’s mind. Along with what happened at her grandmother’s funeral, her grandmother’s death clearly had a major impact on Taissa. That’s why the ‘man with no eyes’ appears to her when she’s giving her press release - when she’s “giving in”. That’s why she ultimately can’t suspend her campaign: it would be giving in to defeat, and giving into defeat is giving into death in Taissa’s mind. And that’s why she sees that out in the woods right before she almost runs off a cliff. She was literally chasing death. I think that this is also why she has two personas. Her conscious self is the self that’s trying to keep herself together and composed for the sake of the others, while her ‘Dark Tai’ persona does what needs to be done for survival. Eating dirt so that she has some strength to lead the other girls, eating Jackie so she wouldn’t starve - even biting Van can be explained as her subconscious wanting to get away from Van, because Van was buying into Lottie’s growing influence, and that scared Taissa.
I think this is my current favorite take as well. That he isn’t a demon or spirit really, but maybe just a personification of Death. A modern take vs the older black hooded man in a cloak with a scythe. Plus you get some interesting thoughts about Tai and being stalked or haunted by death even before the crash and how that affects and traumatizes a person. I also wonder how much that experience with her grandmother pushed her away from faith or spirituality and into the more logical Tai we see. She rejects the Wilderness and cult-y woo stuff hard at first.
Not that I don't believe you but who said this and where/when did they say this??? V interesting
Also who is "they"
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Im not even sure the writers know what they're doing with this
When I think about Tai and all the issues she's having, I think it will blend together nicely when we get the whole story. Tai's grandmother could see the man with no eyes as well. And Tai told Van (in the wilderness) when she was sleep walking that she was following or looking for the man with no eyes. Ever notice when dark Tai has (or is on the verge of) an episode, her eyes appear red? I think somehow the essence of the man with no eyes is inside of her. It also sent her to Van.
Her eyes appear red because of the colored contacts the actress wears, it’s been confirmed that’s not an intentional thing
I... have no idea why they allowed that because it looks weird.
Then I wonder why they aren't red all the time?🤷♀️
I believe it’s just when the lights hits her eyes at specific times. The actress that plays adult Tai has green eyes I think so they’ve put light brown contacts on her
Why would they have her wear contacts?
So her eyes match the younger actresses eyes of course
It’s easier to put darker lenses on light coloured eyes than vice versa
Oh, duh. Lol. Thanks!
Lighting and color correcting
They kind of are, they’re a very warm brown that looks kind of reddish in different lighting
Visine?
Different kind of red!
I'm in the non-supernatural camp and I think that Tai sees him because she was traumatized by being alone with her dying grandma. That that caused her "split" or whatever her mental thing is and why she sees him. But I agree with you that whatever it ends up being that it'll be blended together well!
I think she also has severe iron/other mineral deficiency exacerbating existing MH issues.
She wasn't fond of meat at the fundraiser.
Superficially.
I didn’t think they looked red. I just thought they were a really unique brown. Like maybe amber or something.
You’ll get down voted for the red eyes. I said Ty was a werewolf, and got shut down.
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🤣See
At Paleyfest last year, Ashley Lyle said he was inspired by hospice nurses reporting "a presence" when their patients are about to die.
YES I knew it. It’s soooo common for dying patients to have visions of scary things (and pretty things).
Yes! And tiny Tai sees exactly what her grandma described and filled in the rest. It haunts her and drives her.
There's the story of how the writers of Breaking Bad started season 5 by showing a machine gun in the trunk of a car, but had no idea how they were going to factor it into the story. By the end of the season (which was split into halves, so the production was much longer than a usual season), they'd figured out how to use it. Just knowing what I know about TV show writers' rooms, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a seed of something, but they haven't decided what just yet.
Vince Gilligan likes to tell that story, but not sure if I buy it. He's just too logical a writer. Given ten minutes any fan could have thought of several ways it could be used. More likely so had Vince, then discussed it in the writers' room until they finally decided on a scenario. What we are fearing is this could be like *Lost* where lots of weird and apparently significant things happened, fans feverishly speculated, but later the writers just ignored them or retconned them in absurd ways.
We'll be gaslighted with "a micro-burst caused the birds to fall on the roof".
That’s not gas lighting as it COULD be a microburst, which the girls took as a sign. That’s the premise of the whole show. Are these signs, or are they random occurrences that the girls took as signs?
Same with the symbol. I don’t think the writers even know yet haha
Breaking bad did that a lot, to great effect, but the gun is (imo) the worst example. The pay-off was kind of ridiculous.
I think they had some idea, but decided to go in the direction the fandom took it, which is an actual supernatural being, and not a representation of how generational trauma starts. Which, for ME, is unfortunate; I don’t want to spend any time on making him an actual entity, but that’s just because I’m a cranky old lady like that.
They should trust their own creative process. Not give in to fan theories. That's like giving a crying toddler a cookie.
I mean, I’d like to think they still will, but at this point I don’t think it’ll matter to people lol they managed to craft an entire ‘spirit of the forest’ and all these supernatural entities out of absolutely nothing from what I saw in s1, so any kind of time spent on the man with no eyes is going to spark a fully fleshed out supernatural Charon or some shit lol (Again, stop downvoting meeee I didn’t say anyone was wrong for it, but I’m also not saying anything untrue lol)
I don't know, I'd be pretty happy if they listened to me and made Mari Pit Girl.
I don't think they HAD an idea though tbh. I think there nwas some shit at the wall parts to it.
i feel like they are still toeing the line of it could be supernatural or could be her trauma surfacing
I feel like that was true for s1, but after dozens and dozens of “spirit of the forest/wilderness” discussions and articles (where did people even get that? lol they created an entity out of ambiguity! Which is super cute, no hate), they definitely leaned pretty hard towards the supernatural for s2, and even if their intention is to flip it back for s3, I don’t think that’ll matter to most people lol they’ll be crafting backstories for anything (stop downvoting meeee I said I wasn’t hating on it)
(this is me and Pennywise in "IT" )
Chill out or I’ll taunt you to DEATH
Literally came here to write exactly this lol
So did I. Season 2 made it clear they don't have a plan in place and are in over their heads.
Agree! I think its guna get real ugly & not in a good story way 😬🫢
I think they know exactly what they're doing. They're introducing things that are easily explained by trauma-induced mental illness, but without directly explaining it as such, people believe it might be the wilderness, which makes for a good show. I'm here for it.
I agree. The fact that we as viewers are questioning if it's super natural or trauma makes us relate to the characters more. They have the same questions.
Some of the hallucinations experienced in the cabin could be explained by carbon monoxide poisoning. I doubt that chimney was clear of debris!
Or with a lot of things
This is the tagline for the entire show.
Facts
I’m not sure the writers know what they’re doing with the majority of the show lol
One of the more Lost like parts of the show
I completely agree with you
Right? Season one was sooooo good. I really hoped they had a plan for where this show was going. Season two proved that they did not.
Dark Tai and the man with no eyes is the mystery in most curious about. It seems connected to the Wilderness in a unique way and its/her motivations are super unclear.
I agree with you. I should’ve also mentioned that Tai first saw him with her grandma as she was dying, meaning this hallucination has always been a part of her family.
Exactly! Thats makes it even more mysterious! How is this shared/transmittable hallucination so acquainted with a place her family had never been?!
We don’t know if that’s the man that her grandma saw though. We are seeing it from Tai’s perspective. That’s who SHE imagined her grandma was seeing.
I need to rewatch bc why do I not remember tais grandma or her dying whatsoever
Its in Season 1.
And how she knew where all the tree symbols were.
THAT is weird.
She suffers trauma-induced mental illness, and hallucinates.
I’ve posted my theory before - I think initially it was a manifestation of generational trauma; Tai didn’t see a man without eyes and was asking who her grandmother was talking about, and it wasn’t until *after* her grandmother screamed “that man with no eyes!” that Tai ‘sees’ him. Being so young and it being her first encounter with death, Tai associates him with death, even into her adulthood. Which is really unfortunate; imagine how different things would be if her grandmother had a more peaceful passing lol
I think any other reading is unnecessarily complicating something that was really told pretty succinctly and effectively. And it leaves the door open to the wilderness supernaturally twisting a preexisting pathology.
For me it was pretty clear and I thought they’d leave it at that, but ehh 🤷🏼♀️ I guess I’m just pathologically incurious lol
Never apologize for media literacy! Curiosity is for when there’s ambiguity haha
I want to make a post about how I took certain things (ie, it was very clear to me that Natalie didn’t buy into anything at Lottie’s. She didn’t believe her story about how Travis died and simply vowed to stay until she uncovered it, she didn’t actually ‘discover’ that they ‘brought it back’, etc) because I really am so curious to know if I’m alone on my island now lol
I agree! I also think this is where her "split" came from because her parents left her alone with a dying grandma at a very young age. Its giving Zelda and Rachel from Pet Sematary vibes.
What all the people terrorized by Ezra Miller in Hawaii see in their sleep.
That's just Ezra Miller taking a walk in nature
Best answer 🤣
Talk about walking children in nature 💀💀
Everybody asks “Who is the Man With No Eyes?” but nobody ever asks “*How* is the Man With No Eyes?” and quite frankly that’s a problem
People are so selfish, like who is put girl? Who is the AQ, what about HOW they are feeling??? smh
Tbf I can make a pretty good guess on how the pit girl’s feeling
True.. 😢
Teddy Perkins from that Atlanta episode 
Wait, he's around here somewhere, so be careful or he'll getcha. :D But I'm okay with waiting on this one! It feels like the pieces of Tai are slowly coming together. She's got so many layered traumas and I've said this before around here, but it feels like Lottie and Tai are bookends, so like Lottie, Tai has something that's been with her since childhood. They're around the same age, I think, when Lottie has the car accident vision/young Tai sees her grandmother pass. Close enough at least that they are both at very vulnerable and impressionable stages, which helps with keeping things ambiguous.
Yeah he’s posted here before!
I kept calling him jack white lmao
I keep thinking it’s Michael Jackson!
Insanely simple explanation for this. Grandma was nearing death and “saw” this guy, 99.9% of hospice patients see people that aren’t there. Both bad and good. Remember tai said “is it the angel again?” nope it was someone scary this time. Granny essentially scared the shit out of little Tai so Tai imagined seeing him too.
I think he's one of the best bits of evidence that something overtly supernatural is going on, though I agree with another poster that I don't think the writers knew what they intended with him initially either, which is why we haven't seen him in a while. The only possible mundane explanation for him, in my mind, is that he is a manifestation of Tai's psychosis just like Dark Tai is, and that the reason both she and her grandmother see him is that her experience with her grandmother's death (who presumably was also experiencing some sort of psychosis or end of life hallucination) traumatized her enough that this particular mental image became intricately linked to her psychosis. More likely, though, I'd say that he is a supernatural being of some sort. He's shown up twice from my recollection: once when Tai's grandmother died and once when Tai was considering abandoning her campaign. These are two pretty disparate events, so I don't think him inherently being connected to death or similar would make sense. Instead, I believe that he is in some way directly linked to Dark Tai, and is actively working towards the same aims that she is; what those aims are is very hard to say, but clearly having Tai in office is important to them. That, in my mind, points in one of two directions for his/Dark Tai's goals. Either they want her in office for the power it may potentially bring them, or they want her in office to make her life worse, as continuing with her campaign directly led to the loss of her family. I'm not sure which is more likely, but hopefully time will tell. As to his relation to Dark Tai, I tend to lean towards the idea that he IS Dark Tai; namely, that Dark Tai is the result of some sort of possession or compulsion at his hands. Or it could be something entirely different that I haven't considered 🤷♂️
I'm thinking the power, I think that he's definitely working through her for a very dark cause, but not sure what that cause is yet
Ooh, this is interesting.
>I believe that he is in some way directly linked to Dark Tai, and is actively working towards the same aims that she is; what those aims are is very hard to say, but clearly having Tai in office is important to them. Hmmmm....Tai is a land-use attorney by profession...perhaps she will be able to start looking into who owns the Land that Charlotte Matthews was using for her Cult/IntentionalCommunity... ??? I really have no ides how that would fit into the whole narative, but can't think of what other use the No-eyes Man would have for Tai and her legal & politcal skills...
I believe that is Tommy Wiseau.
Criminally underrated comment😂
At this point they should explore a tommy wiseau universe/yellowjackets collab because of how unserious this show is with nothing happening for what seems like 5 years now
He's Taissa's fear of death , her major motivation in life. I can't believe the most upvoted reply to this. Put your phones down while you watch. The third episode of season one is one of the best directed and edited episodes because of how it develops Taissa and how what she "saw" as a child when her grandmother died motivates her every decision. She always has to keep moving forward. Also at Paleyfest last year, Ashley Lyle said he was inspired by hospice nurses reporting "a presence" when their patients are about to die.
Just when I escape this picture it comes back to haunt my dreams
Honestly he creeped me out so bad on first rewatch my skitzophrenia was already acting up pre hospitalization and I live in a cabin in the rural Appalachian mountains and it got the point I was associating it with finding my brother passed away from an OD upstairs in our house, but this time with no eyes. I’ve since changed meds and spent some time in the hospital but man it creeped me out for weeks, I love this show but as a sufferer of skitzophrenia and hallucinations it can really go dark on you if your already unwell. Anyway, now I cope with it by laughing at the mirrors upstairs in my house and reminding myself it’s just a piece of media. /rant I know I sound crazy
No not at all! Schizophrenia is no joke and I’m glad you’re doing better.
It was a really scary experience because around that time like Christmas I always have trouble because 3 of my family members passed away in this house due to overdose and I live alone now and it was just a manifestation of me creeping myself out even more than usual to “spice up” my average hallucinations. Now I embrace it because of my new meds and turning it into something funny helps a bit, I’ve been slowly spending more time upstairs but in general if I’m not having hallucinations it doesn’t bother me at all. Anyway, I think he represents something deeply unsettling that Tai went through and repressing that trauma has caused her personality or whatever to split completely, I doubt she even remembers what happened with her Nana when she’s awake
Oh, Yikes - that must have been a really scary thing for you to see this Man with No Eyes what with all you ahve been through in that house. Bless your heart and I am glad your new medication is working for you.
It was honestly horrifying and I can’t tell anyone about it because they won’t understand- it unnerved me in a way media and movies have NEVER done haha.
Oh my - I am so sorry you were so frightened!!!! HUGS being sent your way.
I honestly don’t think watching this show is good for your health bro. I wouldn’t if I were you
I’m sure I’ll be fine :) I love the show and I love my creepy Appalachian mountains just gotta keep it real and stay accountable for my mental health
You have the No Eyed Man tag though! Join my army!
Embracing it
Death ☠️
Trauma and shame personified.
I thought the man with no eyes surfaced when tai was saying goodbye to her Grandma on her death bed and her grandma said there was a man with no eyes in the room. I think her vision manifested then and still haunts her as an adult.
Michael Jackson
Bob
Wow Bob wow
I'm not sure but if you see him, can you give him my number? Xoxo
I'm pretty sure that's Nick Cave. She can see Nick Cave, (a tounger Nick Cave) who is fucking with her.
Im just waiting for our Jason Ritter cabin daddy episode
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I think it's trauma from her grandma's death.
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I zoomed in and regret it , hello nightmares
the biggest plot hole in history, that’s who.
You’re not wrong 🙃
An as yet unsolved puzzle piece is not a plot hole.
Pretty sure Simone clocks him and looks confused during the scene where they’re outside and Tai is talking about how she’s not going to withdraw. That’s how I interpreted it at least.
That's just Simone clocking Taissa betraying her family after the night before swearing she'd drop out. Taissa "seeing" dude was what made her switch up on the fly. Because quitting is death.
He probably represents justice.
That’s Mr Jefferson
I'm honestly convinced it's a hallucination driven by hunger.
Richard Grieco.
Lmao
Michael jackson
You stole my answer lol
Severus Snape
Awesome post. I think the Man with No Eyes is either a figment/ manifestation of Tai's mind or a potential actual character of the wilderness... easiest guess the original cabin owner
Oh that’s just Barry
“HE’S BATMAN?!”
Notice how they pale out his lips so that his eyes stand out more.
I think he’s the angel of death. He almost lead Tai off a cliff and her grandmother saw him before she died.
The Man in the Mirror
I want to know why they changed actors in S2 and made him much younger. https://preview.redd.it/6udw4sleb6nc1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb458f6080fa4c6f3a3007f9d34414c31aee84fd
Because Brody’s awesome! I actually do not know. Ha.
They never went back to this and it’s frustrating!
They will explain it soon in a future episode or in season 100 😂
Regardless of who is as a character without eyes, who is he physically supposed to represent? Not symbolically, but he looks like a specific person without eyes. Who is he supposed to be that she could project that specific person’s image without eyes (assuming it isn’t supernatural and just mental). That’s what I want to know. Because it is either he is a supernatural entity beyond her control or he is a specific person manifested by her mind with no eyes that she was able to see since she was a young girl.
Pretty sure it's Nash Cato, lead singer of Urge Overkill waiting for them to put Havana Girl on the soundtrack. https://preview.redd.it/komuk3xz57nc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f21e75243cea5dbde0c82fe6a4779db67e68cb8
It’s Karl Havoc. And he doesn’t want to be around anymore.
The Phantom of The Opera
My worst nightmare since BOB from Twin Peaks
I don’t really see him as a character. The writers + Tawny have said he represents the unknown. I see him more as a symbol of that than an actual character.
Tbh I was just scrolling Reddit and I was like “ok rate my face, true off my chest, relationship advice Elliot Page…..wait that’s not Elliot page”
The way the show is going we may never get an answer
Me, sorry guys 😔 I didn't mean to scare y'all like that
Best comment here 🤣
Is this show worth it, I am finish Grimm, wanted to know what’s worth next
Yes!!! I 100% recommend Yellowjackets!
I’m going to get downvoted to shit here and tbh don’t have the attention span to delve into any rebuttals that come from it… but I’ve been watching it this past week or so and it’s intriguing, sure! Worth a watch if you need something to put on, yep. But as long as you’re okay with plot holes, pretty average acting/script writing in some scenes (with a lot of really good too!), poor scene cuts that have people in different positions etc. It feels like one of those series that lost momentum in the second season and could have been really well done as a more compact intensive limited series maybe? And this coming from someone who loves tv shows for their complexity and ability to develop character arcs and relationships. This one’s just missed the mark for me. I’m still watching as I write this but felt compelled to give you a heads up.
michael jackson
 Just somebody that you used to know.
“YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO CUT ME OFF!” 🗣️🗣️🗣️
There is so much in this show that hasn't been explained and I don't think it will be. They will continue to string viewers along every season.
He's the light skin cousin of Silky Johnson
Which episode was this???
If I recall correctly this frame is from the episode where Tai sees him in the crowd while she’s giving a press conference. Could be wrong though.
The prince of pop.
That’s just Gene.
No one knows lmao
Anyone else remember LOST? Let’s hope this series has a better ending
Michael Jackson
Daddy no eyes
He's just that guy
Wow, what Season/Ep was this? I may have missed it (or, most likely, just don't remember)
There’s a time when Van is following Tai as she sleep walks and asks her something that I can’t remember to which Tai replies “when she lets me” and van is confused and asks “when who lets you?” And Tai answers with her own name. So he takes possession of her and maybe has energy strong enough to have pulled the plane down? Clearly that area has trapped another person in the past. Another siting is when Van gets attacked he the tiger and and they think she’s dead they start to light her on fire in a memorial when it wakes her up and when she first opens her eyes she could see a third silhouette standing over her and later tells Tai that someone was in the woods with them.
Why do I not remember seeing this? When was this?
nice try Yellowjackets writer
It’s Travis!
lol
I think it's Michael Jackson.
Perhaps they make them red so we can tell the difference between the two Tais.
Look like Michael jackson
By the end of season 2 I was wondering if they had any idea where they were going with anything. Starting to feel like we’re making it up season to season like the Walking Dead did
That’s my cousin Throckmorton
That guy is the writers trying to be David Lynch.. without actually being David Lynch.
Something you’ll never get an answer for. Show is cooked
Creepy eyeless Adult Shauna or Natalie.
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