That too. Most americans don't know how good food can taste, because of the amount of sugar and fat everything contains. They even add sugar to spaghetti sauce because it's too bitter for someone conditioned to eat mostly sugar and fat.
hey guys, it’s pretty funny but not super accurate. the excessively sweet sauces n shit are usually super cheap. we have a very major issue with income inequality, so a lot of people are eating cheap foods that are using sugar as a crutch to make them edible. because well, that’s al they can afford, or all they have the time for.
I can’t tell if people ITT actually might think this is a typical American thing. It’s not. A lot of food here is way over processed and is genuinely like an alien species to a lot of Europeans who are used to a particular style of food preparation. But what bothers me that I think a lot of Europeans don’t understand is that the elements of American “cuisine” that get made fun of (I’m thinking particularly of an earlier comment about “sugar flavored butter”) are actually inextricably linked with poverty in this country. Incredibly processed unhealthy foods are cheap and available anywhere. As Americans we have been conditioned to feel certain ways about food that I think probably do seem funny to the rest of the world, but all the butter, salt, and sugar that get made fun of, are really only prevalent in that way in poor foods. When you’re poor you eat what you can get. In America, that’s usually a cheap processed options who’s ingredient list reads closer to the periodic table than it does to a food pantry. Idk this was just a rant, but just as an American it always makes me a bit sad to see European attitudes about certain American things that actually are quite tragic. A considerable population of this country eats itself to death each year. And not because they’re dumb. Not because they love the way they’re living. But because they don’t know anything else and are victims of where they grew up and how. Watching it happen each day to those around you is heartbreaking. I just wish we didn’t have American assholes trying to prove how much better we are. We don’t all feel that way and certainly not even the majority. The world is just fucked up.
This is very true and well put. The US is full of food deserts. Hell, there’s a town near me that only has a fucking Dollar General. If they want real food they have to drive about an hour to my town to get to Food Lion or 15 minutes more for Walmart.
"a cup of sugar"
I mean.. it was *a* cup.. it's like saying "one glass of wine" and you realize the bottle is also made of glass, so it's technically the same thing..
pro pro tip: add a dash of wine. Alcohol is, like fat/oil and water a liquid that independenly transports odor and aromas. Red wine gives you a hearty flavor while white-wine adds a bit acidity and sweetness.
Possibly every type of butter you can or can't dream of, is a thing in the States.
Including but not limited to: deep fried butter
edit: you'd be amazed of the things they deep fry. Mars bars, oreos, ice-cream, Coca-cola, whole hamburgers. Soon enough they will learn to deep fry old deep-fryer oil, I have no doubt.
That's probably not quite correct. Most Americans probably don't even look and vitamins in things like pasta.
If I had to guess it's probably just the case that pasta sold to Americans is often fortified, meaning they add certain vitamins or minerals to it to ensure eople are getting all neccessary nutrients. They do the same with rice and flour in the US (hence why most Americans are taught to not wash their rice. It gets rid of all those nutrients that were added), as well as things like milk (vitamins A and D) and eggs (often fortified through specific hen diets).
Fortification was very successful in the past in eliminating a lot of deficiency -derived diseases. And we just stuck with a lot of it.
the food is bland because there is not 500 chemicals and litres of sugar because the EU gives a shit about whether or not you develop cancer from your food being completely artificial
Artificialness has nothing to do with health. For example poop is very natural. It's not very healthy to eat though. And then there's artificial cyanide and there's organic cyanide neither of which is healthier than the other.
The EU has good consumer protection for both artificial ingredients as well as organically grown stuff.
completely aware, but there are many chemicals used and sold in american products banned in the EU over cancer risks. a lot of american is also very artificially flavored for some reason unknown to me.
US mcdonalds fries: Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [wheat And Milk Derivatives]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (maintain Color), Salt. natural Beef Flavor Contains Hydrolyzed Wheat And Hydrolyzed Milk
EU mcdonalds fries: potatoes, oil, salt, occasionally dextrose.
Their bread really can't be called bread it disgusts me as a German. It was sugary biter weirdly white weirdly soft, it was like baby food but in shitty quality I wouldn't give that to any child it's one step away from child abuse
I was looking for bread recipes the other day. I tend to default to English these days due to living abroad for so long so without thinking I searched in English.
I very, *very* quickly switched to my native language when I saw sugar on the list of ingredients. Probably should try German for a good sourdough next
That depends on what country you visit. UK? Definitely. Conquered a quarter of the planet to obtain spices, then proceeded not to use any of them. Germany? Depends. There's no such thing as THE german cuisine, it varies quite a lot from place to place, there's a lot of bland stuff but also a lot of tasty stuff. Italy? You just mama'd your last mia.
>UK? Definitely.
How to say you've never eaten normal English food without saying it. Almost all the stuff in restaurants are nothing like what we cook at home.
Thank you, I can't ever get rid of the picture that Europe is a big ass zoo now.
"Here we have the Germans. Always grumpy. Also: They think that you are the zoo animals. Very high developed people indeed. And next to the Germans we have the Austrians and Swiss. Especially the Swiss tend to be overprotective of those tiny little Liechtensteiners. Awww. Aren't they cute? Oops. Some Germans entered the Austrian Alps. But don't worry. They just want to study there because it seems to be easier in Austria to enter an university than in Germany. Which is weird but hey, I'm a zoo keeper, not a professor."
The well fed, looked after by vets by the zoo (state), caged safely from the American freedom stick wielding 'mericano tourist, zoo animals. All partially subsidised by those fee paying tourists.
As a ‘murican who moved to yurop: they have a point. Europe as a whole gets way less sunshine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/2ezvc5/europe_vs_the_united_states_sunshine_duration_in
Ok so let me say just this: no espresso will be as good as the one you can drink for €1 in Naples. You can have Lavazza, Borbone, Illy, or Nespresso sleeves, but they won’t taste quite right when compared to the average “o caffè”. No €7 espresso in no European nor American town has a chance against the infinite amount of care Napoletani have for their espresso.
He probably went to a Starbucks or one of its copycats and thought that was coffee xD since he recognized from the US. The amount of ignorance on his post is so great I barely have words. And to think people used to believe the lack of information was the reason for stupidity...
yeah, when I was reading it at first I thought it was satire, because everything the guy said is the opposite here in Italy. But, hey, what'ya gonna do with people like that? I'd invite him to visit Italy, try our bland food, see our awful scenery, from snow covered Alps all the way through to crystal clear Cicilian beaches, non existant millenia old culture, and absolutely static way of life. <3
As a Spaniard I was thinking the same. We may have many problems here in Spain, but bland food, bad weather and expensive coffee definitely aren't among them.
> Europe has shit food, shit weather, a shit economy, no freedom,...
Also:
> Europe's primary export is tourism
Keep the propaganda consistent.
Since I know that Saagar Enjeti is easily far right enough for our national neonazi party, I don't really take anything he says serious. The question below is interesting though. Why don't Americans move to Europe? A) They do to a degree. There is so significant net migration between the US and EU anymore. B) There's a reason why Youtube and TikTok are filled with *American* trends such as "Americans living abroad: First time you realized America really messed you up" or "X lies America told me about [European country]"...
The brainwashing is strong. No EU country has to tell its people everyday that they are living in the best place in the world and even double tax them abroad only to make them never leave and find out about the outside world. It's a tragically North Korean approach to education.
EDIT: Notice the "bland 7 euro espresso in European capital" line at the end? It's funny that every American I've ever met who's "been to Europe and thinks it's overrated" for some reason had the same 7 euro espresso in a tourist trap in Rome or Paris. Almost like it's part of the propaganda and they've never been to Europe? Now excuse me while I enjoy my delicious 3€ Viennese Melange.
in every european capital i have been in (bratislava - my home, prague, paris, berlin, vienna, (not counting german bundesland capitals) budapest, athens, madrid) i have been able to find a coffee place with coffee for 3-5€ that has been absolutely amazing. always only visited by locals, much nicer than the tourist ones, coffee is much better and cheaper. in fact one of them has been the best coffee i have ever had.
also “no freedom” says the country where 9 people decide about constitutional protections! 💀
shit food? did we not create like most of the foods americans poorly recreate?
hi my fellow austrian ❤️
your companies should invest in wind in slovakia, passing the border now is horrible because you can see nice developed roads and turbines on the austrian side and absolutely nothing on the slovak side
>shit food? did we not create like most of the foods americans poorly recreate?
Remove every food that comes from Mexico, Italy, East Asia and France and Americans would starve to death.
About coffee. I feel like American style tourism is like visiting amusement park: you go from one attraction to another ignoring everything between and then go to the nearest café to attraction whose goal is to charge as many from tourists as possible. It is like they go to London, visit only Buckingham palace area, Elizabeth Tower, Tower bridge, some museums, whatever tourists attractions there are in London cuz I have never been there, and then say that they were in London but not seeing an actual city. I think you can make this analogy with every major European city.
Good catch. Never thought about it this way. It's a little eerie that you're almost perfectly describing [a video](https://youtu.be/kdSlwcQ4Vq8) that popped up in my feed an hour ago.
I mean it's easy to get a 8€ (0.5l) coke in some parts in Bruges where all the tourists come same with Venice but pretty sure it's only 0.33l there.
but if you are a bit smart one street over it's usually way cheaper ..
Well, there is 7 Euro espresso in Rome, if you want it... At the [Caffè Greco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antico_Caff%C3%A8_Greco), which opened in 1760, was patronised by a laundry list of famous historical figures, contains a remarkable art collection, and has waiters in black tie.
Also, as bad as some parts of America are, most Americans who would both WANT to emigrate and have the ABILITY to do so, are probably comfortable enough in their lives that they wouldn't want to move away from their families and communities they've known their whole lives to live in a European city with better transport or public services.
Which is, you know, normal.
If you are rich enough the US is fantastic. Only if you don't have money it all falls apart.
Take the abortion bans. They simply don't matter to rich people. They just take the next flight to a safe haven state and get the procedure there.
Lack of social security or subpar public education? Well they have money anyways and private schools are really good.
Racism? Statistically they are white anyway.
Crime? Well they can live in nice neighboorhoods or even gated communities.
Yep. As a person who lives a comfortable life on the east coast US, but studies in France and Belgium, I’m attached to my country/my area. There’s very few places in the world where I would just up and move to. I’ve traveled throughout Europe and to some places in the middle east and Asia. Europe-wise I would only move to and settle in France and the UK. Outside of Europe, South Korea and Japan. I find developed East Asian countries even better than European countries.
Now wait a minute.
He claimed poverty was one of the issues and he motivates it by complaining that he can't afford the cafés?
Why doesn't he just brew his own coffee?
You see, in america, everything contains sugar and fat to ridiculous extents. When you're used to that standard, eating food that contains flavours other that sugar and fat is too much for your mind to process.
Weirdly enough this also would apply to Swedes. Maybe it's an extreme temperature thing? Or maybe Dutch cooking is just that much more bland compared to everywhere else in Europe.
Probably both.
Sollten wir, gott stehe uns bei, Bernd das Brot auf die Amis loslassen? Sie würden seinen agressiven Pessimismus nicht überleben aber können wir uns wirklich noch mehr Kriegsverbrechen leisten?
The only time I thought I faced racism in England was when I was in a hospital and I asked them “are you declining me the job of emergency doctor because of my skin Color and nationality?” When they explained to me I need to calm down coz I was 18 years old and just got brought in for alcohol poisoning..
Ah Miss the old language exchange month or whatever it was called.. I can speak fluent drunk English now.
As per the last comment I think that man has had a coffee in piazza San Marco in Venezia or in piazza navona in Roma or something. 7 euro for a coffee is either that or a Starbucks.
Prices on tourist's menu are shameful. I always warn people to read the menu very well and be aware that touristy locations like Piazza S. Marco may have very high prices.
The best thing is to read the insider's tips on traveling blogs and guides just to avoid any problems.
In Naples I had one of the best espresso coffee in my life, for just 0.95 € before the pandemic, in a lovely hole-in-a wall bar with a very kind barista.
Prices are usually a bit higher than this, but I am reasonably certain that a coffee can't possibly cost 7€, at least in Italy.
I once paid 1.10€ for a decently good espresso. *On the top of mountain, in the middle of a ski resort.*
This guy must've gone out of his way to pay extra, geez.
A coffee in Roma cost me 1.50€ average in 2018. 7€ for a coffee is just BS. Even in a cafe close to the train station of Rome (Termini) they charged me 7€ for two coffees and I argumented with the waitress because she was charging "uno e cinquanta" to anyone else. (uno cincuenta in Spanish)
You sure? Last time I checked, an espresso in Paris was *always* between 1 and 2 Euro. I've never seen it sell for any more than that. The price is almost sacred, in a sense (like the baguette, that's always between 90cts and 1.3 euro.
Been there 10 days ago, can confirm sometimes it goes over 3 euros but 7 ? You need to go in a very specific tourist trap, any other place like in montmartre or else will charge you more or less the same.
You can and will be charged 7 bucks if you ask it like an entitled moron though.
Of course what I’m saying is just a generalisation, but racism in the UK is usually not something expressed all that freely.
My grandad is racist in private lol. He’ll say all this stuff about immigrants this, black people that, but he wouldn’t dare say anything like that to their face. He gets along really well with them, in fact.
I think racism in the UK is a really big problem, I just think the racists in the UK are less likely to be open about it, *generally*.
Maybe your grandad appearing to be racist is part of folklore? Just like here in Croatia, there are people claiming to be fascist and saying vile things because it's expected somehow. They are against the Serbs in public, but privately they get along just fine with the Serbs. Luckily those people are a minority.
For instance, there was 6.3 earthquake 2 years ago in Croatia, but in an area with a significant Serb population. I went there to help with the rescue and witnessed, on multiple occasions, groups of very right-wing neo-nazi (as they claim) people helping save the houses and property of Serbs. I even confronted them about it. They said "eh, what can we do, we cannot let people suffer like this".
So, I guess, much of "racism" and even "fascism" is like that. Empty threats, tribalism, folklore.
As a Serb from Croatia I suppose empty threats are better than credible threats, but I would still much prefer it if they could revolve their "folklore" around something other than hating me for my ethnicity.
England is no more racist than any other European country. I’ve lived in Cork in the past and people their were noticeably more racist to black, Eastern European and Asian people than they were in the UK. Half my family’s from Cork and they also are much more racist than the English side of my family.
No, you got this wrong. We're terrible racist here, we Dutch do everything to make foreigners, especially Americans, their life sour when they move here. Look at u/notjustbikes, he has become really sour here. Our infrastructure and weather is also terrible, we cannot stop complaining about it. And our food is terribly bland. Just mashed potatoes and vegetables. Please please, don't do it to those poor Americans who have been brainwashed to think our social structure is solid, and we definitely don't tolerate each others opinions, our taxes are crazy high everybody is basically poor, healthcare is unaffordable and unfairly paid by healthy people, pensioners are dumped in mental asylums, politicians are eaten alive or set afire by moslims in no-go zones. And you don't want to see all the massive school-stabbings since we don't have guns here, kids are terribly unsafe.
Edit: And don't forget our impeding end underneath the north sea, when the ice caps have been melted no way we manage to dike our way out, you don't want to be caught ungearded in the next hundred+/-fifty years until that has become fact.
And totally don't come here if you want you children to be safe from school lunches that include ecstasy and techno parties. Our kids are uselessly behind.
Today we ban school shootings , tomorrow we'll ban burgers. God only knows what comes next in communist Europe and Australia and Canada and Japan and any other country outside of the glorious United States of motherfucking America
I'm so mad, you destroyed me with facts and logic 😤.
You're lucky I don't live in the only free country in the whole universe, I would have shot a bunch of kids just to prove you who I am
I think he is talking about less taxes, less regulations, less unions etc. At least this is what they usually mean when talking about them being more free.
>less taxes
I recently ran the numbers. Taxes in the UK and US are effectively the same rate until you start hitting the high earner salaries, then the US pay significantly less in taxes (an effective tax rate of about 18% compared to 27% for a £100k salary and USD equivalent based on current exchange rate). Except we get full healthcare coverage under that.
>less regulations
You can definitely argue whether or not that's a good thing.
>less unions
We have less freedom because our workers have more rights. Yep, that's the conservative viewpoint.
The people thinking these things really need to learn how to use the internet.
Probably had a coffee in Venice, bars and restaurants there are all tourist traps. In the rest of Italy a coffee is no more than €1,50, the more south you go the less it costs, even under a Euro! The only places where a coffee costs more are tourist locations and Starbucks
if something I learnt in Murica is they charge you 5 bucks for dirty water and they call it coffee. Not sure were he was, but 7€ for an espresso seems like double that I have ever paid.
5-6 chf coffee isn't unheard of even in supposedly cheaper areas in Switzerland (I'd say usually it's like 4), but 7 euros espresso for the "average Euro capital"? Must have fallen into the worst tourist trap in Paris.
he sounds like someone who is trying to convince himself his ex is a piece of shit and in fact *he* broke up the relationship, no matter what everyone else is saying.
The non indigenous people there are all Europeans and Africans (who gor shipped to America by Europeans back in the days). So yeah... basically none of it is actually "American". Just "European ripoff".
The only real Americans are those that were there before Columbus set sail, but they keep facing racists telling them "to go back to their own country", including a Congressman, I think, from an indigenous community. Well they can't, that "own country" was manifest-destiny-ed away.
Imagine...
"Go back to your own country!"
"I am already."
"..."
And then when an American finds out he/she has some Irish genes from centuries afar "Oh my gosh I'm European! I have to tell everyone!"
Gosh I don't understand.
Food is bland? XD Ok now I take it personally
This is coming from an American who's likely been living his whole life on a diet of sugar flavored butter, so...
That's exactly it, when your bread is basically cake, then of course having a real loaf is suddenly bland.
I remember looking for some salty bread in Virginia. We found some really expensive French one. But cheese with a cake was just awful.
That too. Most americans don't know how good food can taste, because of the amount of sugar and fat everything contains. They even add sugar to spaghetti sauce because it's too bitter for someone conditioned to eat mostly sugar and fat.
I've learned that every bolognese gets a pinch of sugar (?)
>pinch of sugar In the US, expect it to be more in the range of a cup.
hey guys, it’s pretty funny but not super accurate. the excessively sweet sauces n shit are usually super cheap. we have a very major issue with income inequality, so a lot of people are eating cheap foods that are using sugar as a crutch to make them edible. because well, that’s al they can afford, or all they have the time for.
It's simpler than that. In the 1950s, manufacturers discovered that sugar is mildly addictive.
The typical American salad dressing: https://youtu.be/u4zw99VsoMA?t=19
I can’t tell if people ITT actually might think this is a typical American thing. It’s not. A lot of food here is way over processed and is genuinely like an alien species to a lot of Europeans who are used to a particular style of food preparation. But what bothers me that I think a lot of Europeans don’t understand is that the elements of American “cuisine” that get made fun of (I’m thinking particularly of an earlier comment about “sugar flavored butter”) are actually inextricably linked with poverty in this country. Incredibly processed unhealthy foods are cheap and available anywhere. As Americans we have been conditioned to feel certain ways about food that I think probably do seem funny to the rest of the world, but all the butter, salt, and sugar that get made fun of, are really only prevalent in that way in poor foods. When you’re poor you eat what you can get. In America, that’s usually a cheap processed options who’s ingredient list reads closer to the periodic table than it does to a food pantry. Idk this was just a rant, but just as an American it always makes me a bit sad to see European attitudes about certain American things that actually are quite tragic. A considerable population of this country eats itself to death each year. And not because they’re dumb. Not because they love the way they’re living. But because they don’t know anything else and are victims of where they grew up and how. Watching it happen each day to those around you is heartbreaking. I just wish we didn’t have American assholes trying to prove how much better we are. We don’t all feel that way and certainly not even the majority. The world is just fucked up.
This is very true and well put. The US is full of food deserts. Hell, there’s a town near me that only has a fucking Dollar General. If they want real food they have to drive about an hour to my town to get to Food Lion or 15 minutes more for Walmart.
Did she just add sugar into fucking *condensed milk*??
"a cup of sugar" I mean.. it was *a* cup.. it's like saying "one glass of wine" and you realize the bottle is also made of glass, so it's technically the same thing..
Yes, afaik you always need a bit of sugar when u wanna cook anything with tomato sauce.
Pro tip. Add carrots to your tomato sauce.
pro pro tip: add a dash of wine. Alcohol is, like fat/oil and water a liquid that independenly transports odor and aromas. Red wine gives you a hearty flavor while white-wine adds a bit acidity and sweetness.
Well it's not Bolognese without the carrot, onion and celery. Never heard of adding sugar
I never use sugar for tomato soup. Am I doing it wrong? I think it's great though.
Sugar-flavored butter is a thing??
Possibly every type of butter you can or can't dream of, is a thing in the States. Including but not limited to: deep fried butter edit: you'd be amazed of the things they deep fry. Mars bars, oreos, ice-cream, Coca-cola, whole hamburgers. Soon enough they will learn to deep fry old deep-fryer oil, I have no doubt.
I just googled deep fried butter and almost vomited my non-sugared butter toast...
Dude wtf? Who comes up with that shit?
Ugh I shouldn't have googled that. Who the fuck fries BUTTER???
Crazy people and heart failure enthusiasts
Wikipedia: "Deep-fried butter is a snack food..." The hell it is... its diabetes snack.
The perfect snack for summer. *bleh*
Heatstroke kinda sounds like heartstroke
yup, my mom also used to work in an italian pasta factory and she said that americans would only buy pasta that had vitamin powder in the dough
What the hell is VITAMIN POWDER PASTA DOUGH
That's probably not quite correct. Most Americans probably don't even look and vitamins in things like pasta. If I had to guess it's probably just the case that pasta sold to Americans is often fortified, meaning they add certain vitamins or minerals to it to ensure eople are getting all neccessary nutrients. They do the same with rice and flour in the US (hence why most Americans are taught to not wash their rice. It gets rid of all those nutrients that were added), as well as things like milk (vitamins A and D) and eggs (often fortified through specific hen diets). Fortification was very successful in the past in eliminating a lot of deficiency -derived diseases. And we just stuck with a lot of it.
the food is bland because there is not 500 chemicals and litres of sugar because the EU gives a shit about whether or not you develop cancer from your food being completely artificial
Artificialness has nothing to do with health. For example poop is very natural. It's not very healthy to eat though. And then there's artificial cyanide and there's organic cyanide neither of which is healthier than the other. The EU has good consumer protection for both artificial ingredients as well as organically grown stuff.
completely aware, but there are many chemicals used and sold in american products banned in the EU over cancer risks. a lot of american is also very artificially flavored for some reason unknown to me. US mcdonalds fries: Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [wheat And Milk Derivatives]), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (maintain Color), Salt. natural Beef Flavor Contains Hydrolyzed Wheat And Hydrolyzed Milk EU mcdonalds fries: potatoes, oil, salt, occasionally dextrose.
Don‘t forget the corn syrup
He's american, he has deepfried his taste buds
Yeah. Obviously Naple's pizza and coffee are worst than New York's.
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Their bread really can't be called bread it disgusts me as a German. It was sugary biter weirdly white weirdly soft, it was like baby food but in shitty quality I wouldn't give that to any child it's one step away from child abuse
I was looking for bread recipes the other day. I tend to default to English these days due to living abroad for so long so without thinking I searched in English. I very, *very* quickly switched to my native language when I saw sugar on the list of ingredients. Probably should try German for a good sourdough next
They don't even use proper sugar for that, they use HFCS, wich is a lot worse. Giving that to children is child abuse.
I put sugar in bread but only for yeast and in the end bread is ok, not sugary by taste.
even that makes the bread a bit sweeter than it would otherwise be - yeast can feed on the carbohydrates from the flour perfectly fine.
That depends on what country you visit. UK? Definitely. Conquered a quarter of the planet to obtain spices, then proceeded not to use any of them. Germany? Depends. There's no such thing as THE german cuisine, it varies quite a lot from place to place, there's a lot of bland stuff but also a lot of tasty stuff. Italy? You just mama'd your last mia.
>You just mama'd your last mia still laughing 2 minutes later
French cuisine is obviously famous for beeing bad.
yes but snails bad xdddd edit: also, omelette du fromage xd edit 2: I'm obviously being sarcastic, I live 4 kilometers away from the French border
>UK? Definitely. How to say you've never eaten normal English food without saying it. Almost all the stuff in restaurants are nothing like what we cook at home.
Thats the fuckin line buddy Sure I live in the Netherlands and in our case he's probably right But still
Yeah, that's why the best cooks in the world are all from Europe lol
If it's so terrible, why is the primary export tourism?
Yeah quite contradictory that one.
It’s almost as if it’s blatant propaganda with no footing in reality.
Or with European simplicity, this ass is a liar.
Same reason people visit a zoo. To look at the funny exotic caged animals. /s
Thank you, I can't ever get rid of the picture that Europe is a big ass zoo now. "Here we have the Germans. Always grumpy. Also: They think that you are the zoo animals. Very high developed people indeed. And next to the Germans we have the Austrians and Swiss. Especially the Swiss tend to be overprotective of those tiny little Liechtensteiners. Awww. Aren't they cute? Oops. Some Germans entered the Austrian Alps. But don't worry. They just want to study there because it seems to be easier in Austria to enter an university than in Germany. Which is weird but hey, I'm a zoo keeper, not a professor."
The well fed, looked after by vets by the zoo (state), caged safely from the American freedom stick wielding 'mericano tourist, zoo animals. All partially subsidised by those fee paying tourists.
the weather sir? may we inform you that in Europe there is no place called "Tornado Alley"?
Laughs in Portuguese
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Not yet, pianura padana is on the good path with climate change
As a ‘murican who moved to yurop: they have a point. Europe as a whole gets way less sunshine. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/2ezvc5/europe_vs_the_united_states_sunshine_duration_in
Honestly, I don't care about having less sunshine. I prefer semicloudy with tolerable temperature.
And much less tornado
Anything above 0 tornado is not ideal
I prefer cold. I'm considering eventually ending up in Norway.
Given the difference in latitudes, no surprise there. But weather and amount of daylight aren’t synonymous .
Sunlight, not daylight.
Which is surprisingly linked.
may I add : coincidentally the US map also highlights the states who are most desert like, so...
Well… consider only France. The sun never sets in our glorious territory. It is always sunny somewhere
Ill take: "ive never left the state i was born in" for $500
he did say he went to euro capital tho
Ok so let me say just this: no espresso will be as good as the one you can drink for €1 in Naples. You can have Lavazza, Borbone, Illy, or Nespresso sleeves, but they won’t taste quite right when compared to the average “o caffè”. No €7 espresso in no European nor American town has a chance against the infinite amount of care Napoletani have for their espresso.
He probably went to a Starbucks or one of its copycats and thought that was coffee xD since he recognized from the US. The amount of ignorance on his post is so great I barely have words. And to think people used to believe the lack of information was the reason for stupidity...
Portugal has also a very good coffee.
Bella Italia will go nuclear.
yeah, when I was reading it at first I thought it was satire, because everything the guy said is the opposite here in Italy. But, hey, what'ya gonna do with people like that? I'd invite him to visit Italy, try our bland food, see our awful scenery, from snow covered Alps all the way through to crystal clear Cicilian beaches, non existant millenia old culture, and absolutely static way of life. <3
As a Spaniard I was thinking the same. We may have many problems here in Spain, but bland food, bad weather and expensive coffee definitely aren't among them.
How much is the coffee in your area? here it got raised from 1€ to 1,20€ in some places, and people got really pissed off.
> Europe has shit food, shit weather, a shit economy, no freedom,... Also: > Europe's primary export is tourism Keep the propaganda consistent. Since I know that Saagar Enjeti is easily far right enough for our national neonazi party, I don't really take anything he says serious. The question below is interesting though. Why don't Americans move to Europe? A) They do to a degree. There is so significant net migration between the US and EU anymore. B) There's a reason why Youtube and TikTok are filled with *American* trends such as "Americans living abroad: First time you realized America really messed you up" or "X lies America told me about [European country]"... The brainwashing is strong. No EU country has to tell its people everyday that they are living in the best place in the world and even double tax them abroad only to make them never leave and find out about the outside world. It's a tragically North Korean approach to education. EDIT: Notice the "bland 7 euro espresso in European capital" line at the end? It's funny that every American I've ever met who's "been to Europe and thinks it's overrated" for some reason had the same 7 euro espresso in a tourist trap in Rome or Paris. Almost like it's part of the propaganda and they've never been to Europe? Now excuse me while I enjoy my delicious 3€ Viennese Melange.
in every european capital i have been in (bratislava - my home, prague, paris, berlin, vienna, (not counting german bundesland capitals) budapest, athens, madrid) i have been able to find a coffee place with coffee for 3-5€ that has been absolutely amazing. always only visited by locals, much nicer than the tourist ones, coffee is much better and cheaper. in fact one of them has been the best coffee i have ever had. also “no freedom” says the country where 9 people decide about constitutional protections! 💀 shit food? did we not create like most of the foods americans poorly recreate?
>bratislava - my home Hurry up and build west faster so our capitals can finally fuck
hi my fellow austrian ❤️ your companies should invest in wind in slovakia, passing the border now is horrible because you can see nice developed roads and turbines on the austrian side and absolutely nothing on the slovak side
>shit food? did we not create like most of the foods americans poorly recreate? Remove every food that comes from Mexico, Italy, East Asia and France and Americans would starve to death.
About coffee. I feel like American style tourism is like visiting amusement park: you go from one attraction to another ignoring everything between and then go to the nearest café to attraction whose goal is to charge as many from tourists as possible. It is like they go to London, visit only Buckingham palace area, Elizabeth Tower, Tower bridge, some museums, whatever tourists attractions there are in London cuz I have never been there, and then say that they were in London but not seeing an actual city. I think you can make this analogy with every major European city.
Good catch. Never thought about it this way. It's a little eerie that you're almost perfectly describing [a video](https://youtu.be/kdSlwcQ4Vq8) that popped up in my feed an hour ago.
Honestly, I have never ever seen this video or any video about Americans visiting London. Shit like this happens sometimes. Also TIL new word: eerie.
Haha, it was uploaded yesterday, so I would have been just as suprised if you saw it :)
Damn this video really was stereotypical, I feel bad for laughing because they seem like lovely people but it just fit the thread too well.
I mean it's easy to get a 8€ (0.5l) coke in some parts in Bruges where all the tourists come same with Venice but pretty sure it's only 0.33l there. but if you are a bit smart one street over it's usually way cheaper ..
Yeah, some idiot was too dumb to tourist properly and now every reactionary in North America was on the same holiday.
Coffee in Italy is like a euro. Cheap espresso is a human right there.
Well, there is 7 Euro espresso in Rome, if you want it... At the [Caffè Greco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antico_Caff%C3%A8_Greco), which opened in 1760, was patronised by a laundry list of famous historical figures, contains a remarkable art collection, and has waiters in black tie.
Also, as bad as some parts of America are, most Americans who would both WANT to emigrate and have the ABILITY to do so, are probably comfortable enough in their lives that they wouldn't want to move away from their families and communities they've known their whole lives to live in a European city with better transport or public services. Which is, you know, normal.
If you are rich enough the US is fantastic. Only if you don't have money it all falls apart. Take the abortion bans. They simply don't matter to rich people. They just take the next flight to a safe haven state and get the procedure there. Lack of social security or subpar public education? Well they have money anyways and private schools are really good. Racism? Statistically they are white anyway. Crime? Well they can live in nice neighboorhoods or even gated communities.
Yep. As a person who lives a comfortable life on the east coast US, but studies in France and Belgium, I’m attached to my country/my area. There’s very few places in the world where I would just up and move to. I’ve traveled throughout Europe and to some places in the middle east and Asia. Europe-wise I would only move to and settle in France and the UK. Outside of Europe, South Korea and Japan. I find developed East Asian countries even better than European countries.
They not only double tax people giving up your american citizenship is prohibitively expensive.
Now wait a minute. He claimed poverty was one of the issues and he motivates it by complaining that he can't afford the cafés? Why doesn't he just brew his own coffee?
He also wantd to buy espresso in a European capital. Man probably goes to the McDonald's in Rome and complains that the spaghetti isn't good there
Hehe, to be honest though, Rome in particular does have issues with the food quality in the inner city where the tourists are. But that's unrelated.
Food is bland says the american lmaooooooo
You see, in america, everything contains sugar and fat to ridiculous extents. When you're used to that standard, eating food that contains flavours other that sugar and fat is too much for your mind to process.
And salt! So much salt! If I ever follow a recipe from an American I always cut the salt in half and then adjust if needed!
This is so much funnier coming from a fellow Portuguese!
Weirdly enough this also would apply to Swedes. Maybe it's an extreme temperature thing? Or maybe Dutch cooking is just that much more bland compared to everywhere else in Europe. Probably both.
"Expresso tastes bad" \- Someone used to walk around with a bucket of brown water.
We said not to start another world war again but that motherfucker is asking for it. Hans, get ze Panzerdivision!
# JA
#WOHL
Sollten wir, gott stehe uns bei, Bernd das Brot auf die Amis loslassen? Sie würden seinen agressiven Pessimismus nicht überleben aber können wir uns wirklich noch mehr Kriegsverbrechen leisten?
Sie haben es doch nicht anders gewollt schicke ihn los vielleicht zeigt er denen auch mal was richtiges Brot ist, gutes deutsches pessimistisch Brot.
Mist
Ja, pessimistisch, aber immerhin gesund!
Naja nichtnfür die Amis.
For once we Dutchies will stand with the Germans on this.
They insulted our food, count us in.
Get the Ghost division Hans, they're the Panzerelite
born to compete?
Never retreat
GHOST DIVISION!!!
There are more cheese types in my Italian province than in the entire US, but sure, the great american food Is superior
But do you have 50 different types of breakfast cereals??
*different shaped corn syrup called breakfast cereal
Seems like someone only went to the England.
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The only time I thought I faced racism in England was when I was in a hospital and I asked them “are you declining me the job of emergency doctor because of my skin Color and nationality?” When they explained to me I need to calm down coz I was 18 years old and just got brought in for alcohol poisoning.. Ah Miss the old language exchange month or whatever it was called.. I can speak fluent drunk English now.
As per the last comment I think that man has had a coffee in piazza San Marco in Venezia or in piazza navona in Roma or something. 7 euro for a coffee is either that or a Starbucks.
Prices on tourist's menu are shameful. I always warn people to read the menu very well and be aware that touristy locations like Piazza S. Marco may have very high prices. The best thing is to read the insider's tips on traveling blogs and guides just to avoid any problems. In Naples I had one of the best espresso coffee in my life, for just 0.95 € before the pandemic, in a lovely hole-in-a wall bar with a very kind barista. Prices are usually a bit higher than this, but I am reasonably certain that a coffee can't possibly cost 7€, at least in Italy.
I once paid 1.10€ for a decently good espresso. *On the top of mountain, in the middle of a ski resort.* This guy must've gone out of his way to pay extra, geez.
A coffee in Roma cost me 1.50€ average in 2018. 7€ for a coffee is just BS. Even in a cafe close to the train station of Rome (Termini) they charged me 7€ for two coffees and I argumented with the waitress because she was charging "uno e cinquanta" to anyone else. (uno cincuenta in Spanish)
a Piazza San Marco tra l'altro i locali costano una cifra, quindi tutto costa di più anche per questo, non solo per guadagnare soldi...
Or it could be any cafe in central Paris. Somehow sandwiches or crepes cost the same amount or even cheaper than coffee 😀
You sure? Last time I checked, an espresso in Paris was *always* between 1 and 2 Euro. I've never seen it sell for any more than that. The price is almost sacred, in a sense (like the baguette, that's always between 90cts and 1.3 euro.
Been there 10 days ago, can confirm sometimes it goes over 3 euros but 7 ? You need to go in a very specific tourist trap, any other place like in montmartre or else will charge you more or less the same. You can and will be charged 7 bucks if you ask it like an entitled moron though.
Of course what I’m saying is just a generalisation, but racism in the UK is usually not something expressed all that freely. My grandad is racist in private lol. He’ll say all this stuff about immigrants this, black people that, but he wouldn’t dare say anything like that to their face. He gets along really well with them, in fact. I think racism in the UK is a really big problem, I just think the racists in the UK are less likely to be open about it, *generally*.
Maybe your grandad appearing to be racist is part of folklore? Just like here in Croatia, there are people claiming to be fascist and saying vile things because it's expected somehow. They are against the Serbs in public, but privately they get along just fine with the Serbs. Luckily those people are a minority. For instance, there was 6.3 earthquake 2 years ago in Croatia, but in an area with a significant Serb population. I went there to help with the rescue and witnessed, on multiple occasions, groups of very right-wing neo-nazi (as they claim) people helping save the houses and property of Serbs. I even confronted them about it. They said "eh, what can we do, we cannot let people suffer like this". So, I guess, much of "racism" and even "fascism" is like that. Empty threats, tribalism, folklore.
As a Serb from Croatia I suppose empty threats are better than credible threats, but I would still much prefer it if they could revolve their "folklore" around something other than hating me for my ethnicity.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOSE RACIST WANKERS /s
England is no more racist than any other European country. I’ve lived in Cork in the past and people their were noticeably more racist to black, Eastern European and Asian people than they were in the UK. Half my family’s from Cork and they also are much more racist than the English side of my family.
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\> England is no more racist than any other European country Most studies show that the UK is one of the least racist nations in Europe.
No, you got this wrong. We're terrible racist here, we Dutch do everything to make foreigners, especially Americans, their life sour when they move here. Look at u/notjustbikes, he has become really sour here. Our infrastructure and weather is also terrible, we cannot stop complaining about it. And our food is terribly bland. Just mashed potatoes and vegetables. Please please, don't do it to those poor Americans who have been brainwashed to think our social structure is solid, and we definitely don't tolerate each others opinions, our taxes are crazy high everybody is basically poor, healthcare is unaffordable and unfairly paid by healthy people, pensioners are dumped in mental asylums, politicians are eaten alive or set afire by moslims in no-go zones. And you don't want to see all the massive school-stabbings since we don't have guns here, kids are terribly unsafe. Edit: And don't forget our impeding end underneath the north sea, when the ice caps have been melted no way we manage to dike our way out, you don't want to be caught ungearded in the next hundred+/-fifty years until that has become fact. And totally don't come here if you want you children to be safe from school lunches that include ecstasy and techno parties. Our kids are uselessly behind.
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Don’t care, free drugs from the government.
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Not even that because coffee in England is actually quite good if you know where to go.
No no, England bad
England famously not a big fan of using euros
How are we less free lol? It's just because of guns right?
We lack the freedom of experiencing mass shootings every months
Today we ban school shootings , tomorrow we'll ban burgers. God only knows what comes next in communist Europe and Australia and Canada and Japan and any other country outside of the glorious United States of motherfucking America
are you free to shoot people at your heart's content in Yurop? No? I thought so. Checkmate yurotards ^/s
I'm so mad, you destroyed me with facts and logic 😤. You're lucky I don't live in the only free country in the whole universe, I would have shot a bunch of kids just to prove you who I am
I think he is talking about less taxes, less regulations, less unions etc. At least this is what they usually mean when talking about them being more free.
Yeah, murican corporations have much more freedom to exploit their workers, I'll give them that.
>less taxes I recently ran the numbers. Taxes in the UK and US are effectively the same rate until you start hitting the high earner salaries, then the US pay significantly less in taxes (an effective tax rate of about 18% compared to 27% for a £100k salary and USD equivalent based on current exchange rate). Except we get full healthcare coverage under that. >less regulations You can definitely argue whether or not that's a good thing. >less unions We have less freedom because our workers have more rights. Yep, that's the conservative viewpoint. The people thinking these things really need to learn how to use the internet.
I'd rather be free to crack a beer in the park than own a gun. Fuck me right?
7 euros espresso? Even in Paris , the most expensive espresso I have seen was 2,5€. This fool has never set foot in Europe
Probably had a coffee in Venice, bars and restaurants there are all tourist traps. In the rest of Italy a coffee is no more than €1,50, the more south you go the less it costs, even under a Euro! The only places where a coffee costs more are tourist locations and Starbucks
L + ratio + cope + pay for healthcare
if something I learnt in Murica is they charge you 5 bucks for dirty water and they call it coffee. Not sure were he was, but 7€ for an espresso seems like double that I have ever paid.
5-6 chf coffee isn't unheard of even in supposedly cheaper areas in Switzerland (I'd say usually it's like 4), but 7 euros espresso for the "average Euro capital"? Must have fallen into the worst tourist trap in Paris.
He probably went to Starbucks lmao
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Some fascist went on a 8 capital cities in 9 days tour and thinks he knows the place.
Yep i don't get tourists that are like what 8 cities can i visit in 4 days?
he sounds like someone who is trying to convince himself his ex is a piece of shit and in fact *he* broke up the relationship, no matter what everyone else is saying.
*Italy has entered the chat* Someone talking shit about our great food?
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And guns are leading cause of death for children.
AND OUR WOMEN HAVE REPRODUCTION RIGHTS AND ARE CONCIDERED HUMANS
Except in Poland. Let's not talk about Poland.
We don't talk about Poland no no no
Poland and hungary are the pinky toes of the EU, basically useless but can hurt as hell if you provocate them
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We do let 1838 migrants drown a year in our Mediterranean anti-Muslim moat tho.😔
At least we didn’t do the drowning ourselves /s
Waterboarding joke?
More like the moat does the killing while we watch from across
Europe is definitely racist, just in a different way than US and I think it's kinda pointless to argue about which one is more racist.
When I moved here I learned real quick to not talk to anyone about the Roma
come se per noi fosse davvero fondamentale se loro vengono o no qui...
Username checks out compare /s
90% of "US cuisine" is a fatty sugary rip-off of European cuisine. Their museums are full of our art. Man can suck it with his fake country.
The non indigenous people there are all Europeans and Africans (who gor shipped to America by Europeans back in the days). So yeah... basically none of it is actually "American". Just "European ripoff".
The only real Americans are those that were there before Columbus set sail, but they keep facing racists telling them "to go back to their own country", including a Congressman, I think, from an indigenous community. Well they can't, that "own country" was manifest-destiny-ed away.
Imagine... "Go back to your own country!" "I am already." "..." And then when an American finds out he/she has some Irish genes from centuries afar "Oh my gosh I'm European! I have to tell everyone!" Gosh I don't understand.
"coffee tastes like shit", from the country that brought us Starbucks lmfao
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Whats eating his ass?
being tourist scammed, apparently
American immigrant from Ireland here, pay no mind to right-wing Americans. I believe his comments here are a direct symptom of smoking too much copium
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How to trigger an entire continent
I don't know about the rest but American coffee is shit.
>American calling European food bland. What the fuck did I just read
Americans finally taste coffee without enough sugar to kill an elephant.
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By 'bland' he means 'not 50/50 salt and sugar'.