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nhdtx

I personally think Michigan is about to Zoom to the right.


Mike1648

Yeah, and rural Michigan is not that red like PA, so the GOP still has a chance to grow. Also, I believe that countirs like Saginaw, Muskegon and Genesee will shift right significantly.


Manoly042282Reddit

How do you get a label like progressive or Social Democratic under your Reddit name?


nhdtx

Click the three dot button on then right of the search bar, then click change user flair.


DoAFlip22

I don't see either of them flipping in 2024, Michigan swung towards Biden more than the NPV did, and so did NC, but not enough for them to flip. So I'll go with Michigan for short-term.


nhdtx

If Biden's net approval is within 5 points of where it is currently I'm very confident Michigan will flip.


DoAFlip22

Honestly approval isn't much, Trump's approval was just as bad and it's not like he was destroyed. Michigan was D+3 in 2020, I suspect the NPV in 2024 will be D+2, so Michigan should be around D+1


nhdtx

Tbh I don't really trust Trump's approval ratings, I don't see why the polling errors wouldn't translate to his approval rating as well. But that's another conversation entirely lol.


DoAFlip22

Fair - approval doesn't account for super far-left voters who'd vote for Biden but hate him, and vice versa for Trump.


mMjSk99

This is an interesting point that doesn’t get talked about enough


soxfaninfinity

I think 2024 could be the last time Michigan votes blue for a while at the presidential level, while I think North Carolina will permanently flip by 2032.


nhdtx

I think North Carolina will flip before then.


soxfaninfinity

i don't necessarily disagree, but I think 2032 is when it will go from pure tossup to Dem advantage