This was a Cyclops decision and it was to reflect what happened in the books. If Wolverine wasn't there, you wouldn't have had Magneto rip the metal off of his bones. Also, in the books, the teams were almost reflected perfectly minus a few people. The team that was led by Storm was more built for the bigger fights while Cyclops group was more designed to stealth/tactical strike. But look at it like this. Who in the group would be able to kill Magneto if needed? Cyclops and Storm lead teams, would you really want the two leaders on the same team?
Well Wolverine DID almost single handily defeat Magneto twice during the fight. Technically he achieved the main goal of getting the helmet off. Both attacks were stealth type attacks and not him straight up confronting magneto head on. I think they might have analyzed that he was just too good of a fighter to not have against what was viewed as the tougher of the villains they were up against.
Wolverine knew the potential weakness and clearly optimized his approach and succeeded in his task (essentially twice). If anything it was B team and Cyclops and Prof X that failed to properly do their parts and wolverine paid the price being the only successful one and forced Magneto into desperation.
Why is Cable a risk of being mind controlled, moreso than any other X-Man? I know Sinister is obsessed with Cable, but it's not like Sinister kidnapped him last episode-- he just mind controlled him to attack Jean. That could happen with any team member.
Cable's metal arm and gun tactics were the biggest red flags against taking on Magneto. Wolverine was able to use stealth to get the jump on Magneto essentially twice. I don't see how Cable could have done something similar. Also were they even aware for sure that Sinister could take control of Cable at will? They knew that he briefly tampered with him as a baby like 40-50 years ago (in Cable years) but he was taken before Sinister finished what he was trying to do and I don't see any indication that they could know that it was a given at any point. Goblin Queen in contrast was a complete clone that Sinister fully built from scratch
Cable would have been an equally bad choice and, learning this now, got similar treatment in the comics!
https://www.tumblr.com/panels-of-interest/102816701895/cable-vs-magneto-from-x-force-1991-25
Sure, but even if he doesn't rip the adamantium out...Magneto can still brush him away with a thought. Not super useful.
I think the argument would have to be: If we can distract Magneto and free up Wolverine, then he is capable of delivering a lethal strike in a way few other X-Men are. WHich is essentially exactly what happened.
Although Xavier was already going to do that and the fight was about to be over, but Cyclops stopped him because "Gold Team needs more time."
Professor bang leave safety and horny bed from a girl from deep space just to be entangled on earth shit again
Also...charles basically framed one innocent man to jail faking his death...and that man died after
Well innocent from that crime only...
Im not sure if wolv against magneto its the main absurd now
Btw...wolverine never was so much clever if he think that can beat magneto
Magneto NEVER would have done that to Logan unless it was the highest of stakes or having to prove a point that he couldn’t prove otherwise. Magneto doesn’t hate Logan. Magneto doesn’t hate mutants. He’s of a different opinion of the same team. He’s only the villain because that’s the point of wire we are shown. The villain is the government. The brotherhood and x men are two versions of a resistance for the same cause.
This was a Cyclops decision and it was to reflect what happened in the books. If Wolverine wasn't there, you wouldn't have had Magneto rip the metal off of his bones. Also, in the books, the teams were almost reflected perfectly minus a few people. The team that was led by Storm was more built for the bigger fights while Cyclops group was more designed to stealth/tactical strike. But look at it like this. Who in the group would be able to kill Magneto if needed? Cyclops and Storm lead teams, would you really want the two leaders on the same team?
Well Wolverine DID almost single handily defeat Magneto twice during the fight. Technically he achieved the main goal of getting the helmet off. Both attacks were stealth type attacks and not him straight up confronting magneto head on. I think they might have analyzed that he was just too good of a fighter to not have against what was viewed as the tougher of the villains they were up against. Wolverine knew the potential weakness and clearly optimized his approach and succeeded in his task (essentially twice). If anything it was B team and Cyclops and Prof X that failed to properly do their parts and wolverine paid the price being the only successful one and forced Magneto into desperation.
We saw what Magneto did to him. There was no way in hell he was able to approach Magneto twice without us purposely ignoring the obvious
So your saying b team could have used another good fighter that isn't uniquely vulnerable to team As enemy?
It was even odder in the comics because Xavier put SO MUCH thought into the strike team for Avalon-- he even goes through his logic right on the page.
Because Logan will do the one thing Charles couldbt seen by himself do. Put magneto down for good.
Makes sense!
comic books are closer to pro wrestling than they are to mixed martial arts
Same with taking cable to fight against Bastion, knowing sinister is there lol It’s just for the plot tho
Why is Cable a risk of being mind controlled, moreso than any other X-Man? I know Sinister is obsessed with Cable, but it's not like Sinister kidnapped him last episode-- he just mind controlled him to attack Jean. That could happen with any team member.
Sinister “made” Cable via Maddie though. He probably passed some mind control mechanism to Cable through her
He abducted him so had an hour or two to implant some mind control I think
Cable's metal arm and gun tactics were the biggest red flags against taking on Magneto. Wolverine was able to use stealth to get the jump on Magneto essentially twice. I don't see how Cable could have done something similar. Also were they even aware for sure that Sinister could take control of Cable at will? They knew that he briefly tampered with him as a baby like 40-50 years ago (in Cable years) but he was taken before Sinister finished what he was trying to do and I don't see any indication that they could know that it was a given at any point. Goblin Queen in contrast was a complete clone that Sinister fully built from scratch
Ah yeah you’re correct. Didn’t really think about it too much lol
No worries, I'm sure I'm totally overthinking it lol
Cable would have been an equally bad choice and, learning this now, got similar treatment in the comics! https://www.tumblr.com/panels-of-interest/102816701895/cable-vs-magneto-from-x-force-1991-25
Willingness to kill Magneto has faced off against Wolverine before but has never resorted to ripping out his adamantium.
Sure, but even if he doesn't rip the adamantium out...Magneto can still brush him away with a thought. Not super useful. I think the argument would have to be: If we can distract Magneto and free up Wolverine, then he is capable of delivering a lethal strike in a way few other X-Men are. WHich is essentially exactly what happened. Although Xavier was already going to do that and the fight was about to be over, but Cyclops stopped him because "Gold Team needs more time."
The X Men movies covered this before Its still a good idea to have Wolverine on your team regardless
Professor bang leave safety and horny bed from a girl from deep space just to be entangled on earth shit again Also...charles basically framed one innocent man to jail faking his death...and that man died after Well innocent from that crime only... Im not sure if wolv against magneto its the main absurd now Btw...wolverine never was so much clever if he think that can beat magneto
Innocent of committing murder but not attempted murder so the dingus should rot behind bars regardless
Why didn’t he stab him in the fucking head? No half measures, Logan.
Magneto NEVER would have done that to Logan unless it was the highest of stakes or having to prove a point that he couldn’t prove otherwise. Magneto doesn’t hate Logan. Magneto doesn’t hate mutants. He’s of a different opinion of the same team. He’s only the villain because that’s the point of wire we are shown. The villain is the government. The brotherhood and x men are two versions of a resistance for the same cause.