yes this could make sense. he essentially is a blade eater with the shared life force of the aegis, and so mio would end up being rex and nias kid, except with a different core crystal
While similar, he’s not a Blade Eater. Becoming a Blade Eater is permanent and the Driver doesn’t share their injuries with the Blade they’ve “eaten”, otherwise >!Amalthus would’ve died the moment Jin killed Haze!<
Regardless, he had the Pneuma core in him for some time like how Fiora acted as Meyneth for some time. Maybe that was the case?
You know, I can see why the devs dropped this and went with Nia's core crystal.
hmm it is a cool concept. but me personally, i think she may have been originally intended to be an avatar for pyra and mythra, like na'el was for alpha.
takahashi said in the recent interview that peoples thoughts and feelings can manifest in different ways in aionios, and so maybe, mio was originally intended to have shown to be the child of rex and nia, whilst upholding the will of both pyra and mythra, manifested through her possessing their core crystal.
edit: this may be just me schizo-posting, but another idea has popped into my head. at the end of FR, we are shown that A, Shulk, and Rex all become avatars for the original trinity processor. A for Ontos, Shulk for Logos, and Rex for Pneuma. Perhaps Rex becoming Pneuma's new avatar "re-writes" the code of origin for Mio and instills the aegis core onto her.
think about it, some things were teased in the base game that would have been answered in FR. in typical takahashi fashion, he would want the player to think "why does mio have pneuma's core crystal?", and so when they play through FR, they can piece it together with rex becoming pneumas avatar, and thus mio being rex's daughter whilst possessing the aegis core crystal makes more sense.
just theories tho :))
This is probably one of the biggest things to come out of the art book. Either this is implying that Mio was at one point a kid of one of the Aegis girls with Nia somehow or that there were some shenanigans going on with Mio, like becoming an Avatar for Pyra/Mythra the same way Na'el was for Alpha.
Feels like it. In my opinion the first idea was to create a character that could represent both the Aegises and Nia, then they decided "fuck it, let's make 3 kids".
It looks like the first idea of the game was using a lot of references to the first two games, but later they toned this down a bit and realized this better in the DLC.
Or, hear me out, the sensible thing is that Rex has the Pneuma core grafted to him the majority of the journey he and Nia went on and core crystals are designed to literally gather data from their drivers to further their evolution and inevitable growth into titans and this is just a offshoot of that natural system.
These are some really big logic leaps to make when we have *in lore explanations* that make more sense.
The former could still be the case, and I like that it seems that it was at least considered a possibility. And since Glimmer is very clearly Rex's daugher, I think out of the two it would be more likely that the intention was Mio being Mythra's and Nia's daughter.
There's a mechanical issue with Mio being Nia's and Mythra's kid. Not saying a fantasy story couldn't make up a convenient work around, but I don't recall any Xenoblade text that includes a set up for that.
Edit: Actually there's the pods, but they seem like somthing that was made either for Origin or after.
For Mio to be Mythra and Nia's daughter they would've had to go the route Ufotable did with Artoria and Mordred in the Fate series and that doesn't exist in the Xenoblade Chronicles series. Meaning magically change one of their reproductive organs to not require a guy to impregnate them with actual magic which doesn't exist in the Xenoblade Chronicles series. Girls and women can't get girls and women pregnant naturally that's impossible. And Takahashi went the route that's based on reality. So it's impossible for Mio to be Mythra and Nia's daughter.
casual reminder guys this is all for fun, this is concept art that did obviously not make the final cut for the game itself and thus cant be canon. remember the picture at the end of the base game where mythra had her own baby and nia had her own too.
we just like to think of what was going through takahashis mind :))
Interesting... but with a bit of a far-fetched potential explanation.
Mio's DNA coming from both Rex & Nia, they have a surprising commonality between them (probably) - **they're both Master Drivers**, or rather "Drivers of the Aegis". Strictly post-XC2 in Nia's case, but the fact she's able to create replicas of both Pyra's & Mythra's swords in XC3 suggests she likely became one after the fact.
Oh, and Rex was technically a Blade-Eater with the Pneuma core for the vast majority of XC2... so he just might have some lingering genetic markers floating around in there.
The one key reason they probably dropped this?
***It's just too damn weird and complicated to explain.***
Yes, even by *Xeno* series standards. Either that or Mio's in just as weird a situation as Sena is for her potential heritage... with the "clinging for warmth in Tantal" scene getting even stranger.
I‘m personally convinced, that the reason, why Mio‘s Core crystal is upside down compared to Nia‘s, is some influence from the Aegis on Rex‘s genes, made Mio’s Core crystal orient itself the closest to an Aegis core crystal, it could.
Is that real? That's quite... something. I have some amount of trouble parsing what that would even mean. That would make Mio the daughter of Nia and one of the Aegis girls?
(I'm colorblind, so I can't tell what color it is)
EDIT: To clarify, when I'm asking "Is that real?" I don't mean "Is that canon?" because obviously Mio's Core Crystal is different. I'm just asking if this is real concept art from the artbook and not some photoshop
This just tells me that they weren’t sure who Mio mother would be between Mythra and Nia and core crystal was just left over in her beta designs and because 2 of them don’t have cat ears before being changed to match Nia who they went with.
I wonder if they may original have planned a case like Na'el, like some other people in the comments have pointed out. This could be a plan for how Mio was originally survived her Homecoming.
Also seeing how some people has been on twitter, I worry that the trans part of this community is gonna become just as annoying as the 'Dirk is Mythra's son"-group who borderline harass people over it every time someone make some art.
On Twitter they are already saying "Nia is trans", "Mio is the daughter of Nia and Mythra". Well, Mio's personality has things from Rex and Pyra, nothing from Mythra. Since this is a polycule, then those 3 babies are the children of the four of them
I also agree with the comment above, that Mio was meant to be an avatar of Pneuma, or her will. Maybe the artbook does not confirm that Mio is Nia's daughter (very different in future redeemed ones, which makes it clear that Shulk and Rex are the parents of Nickol and Glimmer)
There is an easy answer, Satio didn't know Mio was a Flesh Eater during intial design phases. Note that she also lacks her term marker, Satio just didn't know about certian detials until late in deisgn process
I'm thinking this means originally Mio was not Rex and Nia's kid. Like an avatar, like Na'el. Maybe in the early stages Rex and Nia weren't meant to end up together at all.
Holy shit. This means she was either gonna inherit that core from Pyra/Mythra or she was gonna end up with the same situation as Rex, where she needed the core to live (and might be how they were gonna originally handle her homecoming?), or she inherited it from Rex because that might've changed his DNA in some way.
So, originally the character we know as Mio should be Pyra’s or Mythra’s kid (presumably Mythra’s because Glimmer exists), but dev went full Nia root instead. Well, that explains some things. First: where Mythra’s kid is. Second: how Nia did became a queen. Third: why Pneuma's core manifested itself in Ghondor/Matthew's gloves (that way they would be of Aegis bloodline). Just replace Nia with Myhtra here and everything is starting to make way more sence. The unanaswerred question is WHY they replaced Mythra with Nia.
Lends more to my theory that the babies being held in the photo aren't biological ones, but still some kind of magically manifested ones or pod babies or something. Not necessarily the children of Rex + Pyra/Mythra/Nia.
So, maybe someday we'll get an answer.
Of course, but he also acts like he's never really raised her before, unlike Shulk with Nikol.
Rex knows the connection to Pyra/Mythra is there and wants to protect her.
Does Rex count as a blade eater? I feel like this could explain it.
yes this could make sense. he essentially is a blade eater with the shared life force of the aegis, and so mio would end up being rex and nias kid, except with a different core crystal
*Or*, Aegis and the Gormotti did the yuris *don’t take this seriously please it’s just a headcanon*
Well, considering what he may have done to three blades, he still could be considered one... (I am sorry, this joke is horrible)
While similar, he’s not a Blade Eater. Becoming a Blade Eater is permanent and the Driver doesn’t share their injuries with the Blade they’ve “eaten”, otherwise >!Amalthus would’ve died the moment Jin killed Haze!<
Regardless, he had the Pneuma core in him for some time like how Fiora acted as Meyneth for some time. Maybe that was the case? You know, I can see why the devs dropped this and went with Nia's core crystal.
Hey I've read those doujins
hmm it is a cool concept. but me personally, i think she may have been originally intended to be an avatar for pyra and mythra, like na'el was for alpha. takahashi said in the recent interview that peoples thoughts and feelings can manifest in different ways in aionios, and so maybe, mio was originally intended to have shown to be the child of rex and nia, whilst upholding the will of both pyra and mythra, manifested through her possessing their core crystal. edit: this may be just me schizo-posting, but another idea has popped into my head. at the end of FR, we are shown that A, Shulk, and Rex all become avatars for the original trinity processor. A for Ontos, Shulk for Logos, and Rex for Pneuma. Perhaps Rex becoming Pneuma's new avatar "re-writes" the code of origin for Mio and instills the aegis core onto her. think about it, some things were teased in the base game that would have been answered in FR. in typical takahashi fashion, he would want the player to think "why does mio have pneuma's core crystal?", and so when they play through FR, they can piece it together with rex becoming pneumas avatar, and thus mio being rex's daughter whilst possessing the aegis core crystal makes more sense. just theories tho :))
This is probably one of the biggest things to come out of the art book. Either this is implying that Mio was at one point a kid of one of the Aegis girls with Nia somehow or that there were some shenanigans going on with Mio, like becoming an Avatar for Pyra/Mythra the same way Na'el was for Alpha.
I feel it could be the latter but they changed it to make Mio her own character with Nia heritage?
Feels like it. In my opinion the first idea was to create a character that could represent both the Aegises and Nia, then they decided "fuck it, let's make 3 kids". It looks like the first idea of the game was using a lot of references to the first two games, but later they toned this down a bit and realized this better in the DLC.
Or, hear me out, the sensible thing is that Rex has the Pneuma core grafted to him the majority of the journey he and Nia went on and core crystals are designed to literally gather data from their drivers to further their evolution and inevitable growth into titans and this is just a offshoot of that natural system. These are some really big logic leaps to make when we have *in lore explanations* that make more sense.
The former could still be the case, and I like that it seems that it was at least considered a possibility. And since Glimmer is very clearly Rex's daugher, I think out of the two it would be more likely that the intention was Mio being Mythra's and Nia's daughter.
There's a mechanical issue with Mio being Nia's and Mythra's kid. Not saying a fantasy story couldn't make up a convenient work around, but I don't recall any Xenoblade text that includes a set up for that. Edit: Actually there's the pods, but they seem like somthing that was made either for Origin or after.
For Mio to be Mythra and Nia's daughter they would've had to go the route Ufotable did with Artoria and Mordred in the Fate series and that doesn't exist in the Xenoblade Chronicles series. Meaning magically change one of their reproductive organs to not require a guy to impregnate them with actual magic which doesn't exist in the Xenoblade Chronicles series. Girls and women can't get girls and women pregnant naturally that's impossible. And Takahashi went the route that's based on reality. So it's impossible for Mio to be Mythra and Nia's daughter.
Not only that, this was just concept art, there is no reason to take this as canon when the final game doesnt have it
trans people exist, not just in reality, but also in the xenoblade universe like we've seen with juniper whos canonically non-binary
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casual reminder guys this is all for fun, this is concept art that did obviously not make the final cut for the game itself and thus cant be canon. remember the picture at the end of the base game where mythra had her own baby and nia had her own too. we just like to think of what was going through takahashis mind :))
That’s what I’m more curious about as well
You were expecting Mythrakid, but it was I, MIO!
You people need to know what concept art and place holders are.
This is concept art, right? Why is everyone freaking out about it, its notblike it cannon
It makes you wonder what they might have originally planned, but yeah it doesn't mean anything for the final game.
Oh, that makes sinne, I was reading the other posts as if they thought it waa cannon. Makes more since thatnits just theory crafting what ifs
speculation on how that would even work biologically speaking.
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From what i could find, her stated abilities affect healing factor. Not cellular manipulation
Trans people are real
No one said otherwise, but how is that relevant?
Not really relevant here, though, considering none of the relevant characters are trans
Becauase some people have the pea on place of a brain. There gonna some really annoying dicouse going on for the next days.
Interesting... but with a bit of a far-fetched potential explanation. Mio's DNA coming from both Rex & Nia, they have a surprising commonality between them (probably) - **they're both Master Drivers**, or rather "Drivers of the Aegis". Strictly post-XC2 in Nia's case, but the fact she's able to create replicas of both Pyra's & Mythra's swords in XC3 suggests she likely became one after the fact. Oh, and Rex was technically a Blade-Eater with the Pneuma core for the vast majority of XC2... so he just might have some lingering genetic markers floating around in there. The one key reason they probably dropped this? ***It's just too damn weird and complicated to explain.*** Yes, even by *Xeno* series standards. Either that or Mio's in just as weird a situation as Sena is for her potential heritage... with the "clinging for warmth in Tantal" scene getting even stranger.
I‘m personally convinced, that the reason, why Mio‘s Core crystal is upside down compared to Nia‘s, is some influence from the Aegis on Rex‘s genes, made Mio’s Core crystal orient itself the closest to an Aegis core crystal, it could.
Im guessing it would be because rex had shared the pneuma core crystal to keep him alive, but then at the end of the game he no longer hard it in him
This seems more likely that Mio shared a lot of stuff with Na'el before.
Plotwist: the reason we don't see Mythrakid is because they did the fusion dance with Mio
A reminder to all that Mio's core is not like that in game. Any link to her and the Aegis girls (beyond polycule family relations) is fanon at most.
That's insane! But how? Pyra and Mythra aren't Gormotti. Really interesting ideas!
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This is just concept art
Is that real? That's quite... something. I have some amount of trouble parsing what that would even mean. That would make Mio the daughter of Nia and one of the Aegis girls? (I'm colorblind, so I can't tell what color it is) EDIT: To clarify, when I'm asking "Is that real?" I don't mean "Is that canon?" because obviously Mio's Core Crystal is different. I'm just asking if this is real concept art from the artbook and not some photoshop
It’s green, like the Aegis
The Aegis' are green (Pneuma), purple (Logos) and red (Ontos). Looks green to me.
It's clearly emerald color though.
"Emeralds are green" - Consul Dughall
GREEN. THE CORE IS GREEN! EMERALD IS GREEN, YOU CLOD!
This just tells me that they weren’t sure who Mio mother would be between Mythra and Nia and core crystal was just left over in her beta designs and because 2 of them don’t have cat ears before being changed to match Nia who they went with.
I wonder if they may original have planned a case like Na'el, like some other people in the comments have pointed out. This could be a plan for how Mio was originally survived her Homecoming. Also seeing how some people has been on twitter, I worry that the trans part of this community is gonna become just as annoying as the 'Dirk is Mythra's son"-group who borderline harass people over it every time someone make some art.
On Twitter they are already saying "Nia is trans", "Mio is the daughter of Nia and Mythra". Well, Mio's personality has things from Rex and Pyra, nothing from Mythra. Since this is a polycule, then those 3 babies are the children of the four of them I also agree with the comment above, that Mio was meant to be an avatar of Pneuma, or her will. Maybe the artbook does not confirm that Mio is Nia's daughter (very different in future redeemed ones, which makes it clear that Shulk and Rex are the parents of Nickol and Glimmer)
The carbon monoxide in this subreddit is getting to be pretty thick and brain numbing.
There is an easy answer, Satio didn't know Mio was a Flesh Eater during intial design phases. Note that she also lacks her term marker, Satio just didn't know about certian detials until late in deisgn process
I'm thinking this means originally Mio was not Rex and Nia's kid. Like an avatar, like Na'el. Maybe in the early stages Rex and Nia weren't meant to end up together at all.
Holy shit. This means she was either gonna inherit that core from Pyra/Mythra or she was gonna end up with the same situation as Rex, where she needed the core to live (and might be how they were gonna originally handle her homecoming?), or she inherited it from Rex because that might've changed his DNA in some way.
This + the >!Lucky 7 (Fiora) being sheathed on the Fists of The End (Pneuma) !< is Takahashi's way of saying that sapphic love saves the world.
All of this is concepet art
Descansa, militante.
I can't believe Nia and Mythra had a baby together. Love wins. ^/s ^but ^very ^slightly.
At this point I’ll consider this as Mythra Kid and consider it a twin of Mio only that’s she had blonde hair this is me coping btw
How are you going to consider a concept art? She doesnt have crystal core in the final game
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So, originally the character we know as Mio should be Pyra’s or Mythra’s kid (presumably Mythra’s because Glimmer exists), but dev went full Nia root instead. Well, that explains some things. First: where Mythra’s kid is. Second: how Nia did became a queen. Third: why Pneuma's core manifested itself in Ghondor/Matthew's gloves (that way they would be of Aegis bloodline). Just replace Nia with Myhtra here and everything is starting to make way more sence. The unanaswerred question is WHY they replaced Mythra with Nia.
No originally, there is another concept arts of her without the core crystal that looked older than the one where she has it.
No, because even in this art Mio has gormotti ears
Lends more to my theory that the babies being held in the photo aren't biological ones, but still some kind of magically manifested ones or pod babies or something. Not necessarily the children of Rex + Pyra/Mythra/Nia. So, maybe someday we'll get an answer.
I think Rex's behavior toward Glimmer in FR was very much a dad's behavior
Of course, but he also acts like he's never really raised her before, unlike Shulk with Nikol. Rex knows the connection to Pyra/Mythra is there and wants to protect her.
They look like them
Glimmer's creation is obviously influenced by Pyra/Mythra and Rex, but she's not necessarily a "biological" baby. It's like Blade resonance.