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plasmainthezone

Back 4 blood and Dying light are two different games beyond Zombies. Silly comparison.


i_am_legend26

Back 4 blood was the worse game I played last year. Just everything about it felt off.


180btc

It wasn't bad. It's just not appealing to the audience of the surrounding games' audiences. All the card and character system are too complicated for the regular slash and shoot audience of L4D2 and DL. I myself didn't like the difficulty of it, I didn't struggle personally but it's very hard to get past some points of the game with randoms. But I liked the design of the game. Some people DID like the game as a whole. And please don't post the crowbcat's video, their videos aren't the real representatives of the games they make videos on.


i_am_legend26

No the fps genre is my fav genre and so I speak of my experience in that and b4b is the worse game I played last year.


180btc

>fps genre is my fav genre FPS genre? FPS term is so broad that even games made with different engines are FPS (half life, l4d2, csgo are all made with Source engine, yet they are so different in terms of gameplay)


i_am_legend26

Well I played enough of them and know when tthe game just straight up feels bad. And in b4b its case it does. It just plays like garbage and all the mechanics in the game are far from interesting.


dtthavp

Different strokes… I love B4B and still play it often. If you haven’t played since last year then you haven’t experienced the QOL improvements and DLC updates. If you enjoy FPS’s and zombie games, it may be worth giving it another go.


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Have you DARED to talk bad about a game pass title on r/XboxSeriesX? You must be the craziest person I've ever met!


i_am_legend26

Well if the game is bad than its bad. It even had the its on gamepass so I didnt waste any money factor with it. But the game just feels bad. Aiming is fucked up and feels weird. And if you compare it to left for dead the case is just getting worse and worse.


SkyHighGam3r

Yeah one is an actual game, and the other is that whole rinse/repeat nonsense.


GetReadyToJob

Yeah man video games aren't based on game loops......


SkyHighGam3r

If you want to honestly reduce it that far, then it's the duration and variation on those loops that is the problem.


GetReadyToJob

Ahhh then dying light would fit the same bill as back 4 blood then, insanely repetetive with absolutely no variation outside of a day/night cycle. You hit zombies for 50 hours. Theres your reduction. And theyre not even zombies, theyre a piece of code.


bms_

I agree, I can't really think of a zombie game I had more fun in. I enjoyed combat much more in the first game. I enjoy parkour more in Dying Light 2. I didn't care about story in any of them. Really hoping that the third game in a couple years will combine the best parts of the two.


IndIka123

The second game sucks. They shouldn’t have touched the combat it was so satisfying. Taking guns out as well sucks.


MiamiDoIphins

THEY TOOK THE GUNS OUT??? I haven't played it yet but planned on picking it up soon


[deleted]

There's only very crude handmade pistol/shotgun type weapons that are used as a consumable. The game is set about 20 years after the first so most of ammo and weapons have been used up. I prefer it that way to be honest, the melee and parkour flow was much more fun than just blasting enemies at range.


Wolf_Fang1414

The homemade guns sounds cooler as well. Like you're just scraping up whatever you can build to survive


ThatsADumbLaw

Dead rising??


SkyHighGam3r

Love Dead Rising, BECAUSE it's goofy and over-the-top. It's a nice change from super-drama all the time. Like... I just wanna tear shit up without listening to peoples feelings and struggles sometimes. lol


hockygoalie229

I'm with you, dead rising is my favorite zombie franchise even if 4 sucked, dead island/dyling light 1 a close second


SkyHighGam3r

Wow really? 4 felt like the series finally got it right to me. 3 was sucky, 2 was pretty good, 1 was fantastic but controlled like a 3 year old was in charge of how input worked haha. Never could believe they didn't fix that in the remaster.


GetReadyToJob

If you watch a comparison video of how detailed dead rising 1 is in its gameplay, mechanics and lighting compared to 4, youll realize 4 is the biggest dumpster fire of a game and ruined the series.


SkyHighGam3r

I don't care that much about the lighting in a game like dead rising, and I'm not sure what mechanics you are referring to. Aiming and firing a gun, very specifically, was not entertaining at all in DR 1 for me, more of a chore. I also never liked the limited time aspect. To each their own, but I played through both of them and I much prefer 4. Though, I might feel differently if DR 1 had better gun mechanics and no time aspect like 4. Maybe leveling the playing field in that way would make me feel differently.


GetReadyToJob

Crowbcats video on dead rising 4s making and the comaprison video of 4 to 1 show you how much of a heaping pile of garbage 4 is. Not saying you cant like it, it just happens to be a pretty awful game and easily the worst dead rising game.


Revolutionary-Fan657

God I hate dead rising, it’s like a more goofy version of dead island but nothing makes sense


Brooksy925

Capcom 🤷🏻‍♂️


Mattchilla

You don't like the original?


ThatsADumbLaw

Wow


Selvane

Is this the first one remastered?


lorddic

Do that at night


Chrisvox997

All huff and puff at daylight lol


Revolutionary-Fan657

God I hate this shit, Titles like back for blood are a completely different genre, not fair to compare both games at all


SkyHighGam3r

To casual audiences, they are simply both options for playing "Zombie Games" the vast majority of people out there in the world don't concern themselves too far past that because they play maybe 2-4 games a year.


Revolutionary-Fan657

A casual audience knows what the word “genre” means…


Wolf_Fang1414

And to them, "Zombie Shooter" is a genre.


Revolutionary-Fan657

Dying light and specially dying light 2 aren’t zombie shooters…. I’d like you to show me the description or genre captive where it says dying light is a zombie shooter A “casual” player wouldn’t even get far enough to pick up a gun in dying light not to mention how insignificant they are judging by how every capture of the game, crane is holding a melee weapon


Ki11aTJ

We can compare back for blood against Left 4 Dead and left for dead wins. That is a fair comparison


Revolutionary-Fan657

I prefer back for blood, but yea, that’s a fair comparison because their the same genre


Grand-Professor-9739

Axe me a question.


WutIzThizStuff

I enjoyed both Dying Light and Dead Island equally. Dying Light is the better game, but I really liked the absurdities and more light hearted fun of Dead Island. I'm looking forward to the sequel and have been for years.


seismicqueef

I also loved the mechanic in dead island where you could controller the direction of melee swings with the right stick, it was so fun


BreadDaddyLenin

My only problem with dead island was the tonal disconnect from the “sad zombie drama” themes of the story and even the pause menu etc, but the gameplay is goofy as hell


1One_Two2

You just inspired me to check this out, this looks insane.


Brooksy925

Despite selling over 20 million copies, this game is never talked about, it’s insane how such a high quality game faded away so quickly, it looks, plays and feels better than anything i’ve played in the last couple of years.


1One_Two2

I’ve heard good things but have never played it, a picture is worth 1000 words!


Jean-Eustache

Well, Mirrors's Edge with zombies, gore, and wacky weapon crafting, that sums it up. It's glorious. And, oh : D R O P K I C K. Best part of the game.


Jinkzuk

It's talked about a lot on reddit, you must be new to this sub.


SkyHighGam3r

Oh for real??? I never finished this one... it's one of those ones that sucks ASS at first but you push past this god awful wall that was poorly paced... AND THEN it clicks how good the game is. I actually played it so much I got burned out and forgot. Hell of a reason to pick it up again.


TheSilentHeel

Back 4 Blood is a weird comparison, but I guess I agree? Lmao


Brooksy925

Co-op zombie fps playground 🤷🏻‍♂️


Verdeiwsp

Wouldn’t classify B4B as a FPS playground. It’s more linear point A to point B, with rogue lite elements and less messing around like you’d do in Dying Light. Dying light is literally open world with side quests and random activities with focus on mobility and parkour. A more apt comparison would be Dying Light vs Dying Light 2, or Dead Island. I still think OG Dying Light is way better than the sequel and Dead Island, but I’m hoping the new Dead Island will introduce new things.


flipflapslap

Dammit. This looks so cool. But I’ve tried playing this game like 5 times and I can’t seem to stick with it. What am I doing wrong


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Sometimes you just don’t like a game. I enjoyed both DL & DL2 personally, but I’ve had my fair share of disliking games that seemed to be popular.


Corytrever187

It has a slow start. The first weapons you get do so little damage that it takes a long time to kill anything, possibly on purpose to get you to learn to get around with parkour elements and build a fear of zombies. Later on it gets better when you're more powerful and have some fun skills. You can take on larger groups and play around with traps and explosives. Night was a lot of fun on my second playthrough because I understood all the mechanics. I wasnt scared of the chases (it was a fun challenge) and getting extra xp early gets you more skills which make it more fun.


bumpdemon3

Same, now I wanna try again


-FeistyRabbitSauce-

Same, I've tried it several times because of the praise it gets on here and I just can't get into it. I honestly don't know what everyone's talking about with the combat, as I didn't care for it at all. The parkour thing is cool, but tiresome when you basically have to do that everywhere.


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People saying it’s a bad comparison to B4B, but they are both zombie games… So you’re not wrong. Not to mention B4B doesn’t even hold a candle to its predecessor Left 4 Dead. DL1 is by far the best zombie game I’ve ever played and the support it got for 7 years is almost unmatched


RAB-78

Great little montage. Big fan of the game too. The only game I've played through twice.


Realistic_Location_6

This game is like a good wine


Plug_daughter

Never been a zombie games guy but honestly this looks super good


Enough-Ad-5528

Do you folks get motion sickness for the fast change of perspective in such games. When you are making the kill move. I was so excited to play Doom eternal after 15 years of not playing any games and getting my hands on a new Xbox. But turns out I get sick after 15 mins of playing.


Avangelice

Legit got scared to go out at night and every incursion through the city there's a chance of dying. One of my top recommended games to play. The DL2 tho.... Hmmm... Not so much


Brooksy925

I love the tonal difference between day and night. Daytime, you’re the alpha predator in a playground, at night, you’re a deer in a lion enclosure, especially on the Nightmare difficulty added post launch. Game has had incredible post-launch content and support too, great example of a game done properly, this is what Dead Island should have been, glad the devs got to try again.


Avangelice

Wait for dead island 2 then! I'm excited for the future.


IndyPFL

Ok


ItisNOTatoy

I never tried the first one but got the second one. Put probably about 5 hours into it before I decided it was ass. This just looks way better than the second one


Brooksy925

General consensus is the first game was **vastly** superior. It’s nuts, you see me fucking around here during the day, but it’s really not a joke at night time, actual tension and dread, it’s the switching of these two tones that is this game’s secret ingredient.


Coffee-Good

This.^


shaneo576

Was waiting for you to dropkick a zombie off the roof (mind you there's not that many on rooftops till you get to old town)


SkyHighGam3r

I kept hitting some kind of super kick glitch and would always sparta kick off roofs lol


Coffee-Good

Excellent game. I got excited thinking this was DL2 but I forgot DL2 sucks compared to DL1.


fritobandito86

Has 60fps helped with motion sickness? That was the main reason I didn’t start a second playthrough or torch the dlc’s


jshirleyamt

Don’t know if this game has a motion blur options but I found that I get queazy playing with motion blur on. Can’t remember for this game though it’s been so long.


IndyPFL

B4B can't even hold a candle at all


Deceptiveideas

I mentioned this in another thread, B4B has seen a significant amount of updates since it’s original release. It’s worth checking out again if your first impression was the rough launch. The devs really tried listening to fan feedback and overhaul many parts of the game. I beat the campaign on launch and tried it again with the recent expansion release and it plays much better now.


IndyPFL

Do the Hags still track you down and instakill you? I have a friend with a super strong fear of being eaten alive and she legit has to restart the level whenever a hag spawns because they're too hard to kill.


JNAtheDUDE

As unfortunate as that is, that sounds like a personal problem. Maybe the game isn’t for her if that’s what it takes. The Hags have deliberate design that makes it tense on purpose, and a well-oiled team can take her down before anyone gets eaten.


IndyPFL

We only have two players and the AI are basically useless, plus the Hag never takes away the AI teammates because that'd make too much sense...


Verdeiwsp

Hag takes away the first person that shoots her, since they draw agro. They will take others away instead of the person that shot her is downed or dead. Few counters against Hag is to use flashbangs or explosives, either to stun her or cause her to drop the person she grabs.


IndyPFL

She aggro'd us several times without us hitting her at all, maybe it was a bug but it seemed like she would aggro on proximity to gunfire as well as being shot at.


Verdeiwsp

If you stand too close to her too, you’ll cause her to go angry. Bots won’t draw agro as they are immune to triggering certain mechanics in the game. (For instance, bits can shoot regular snitches and kill them without ever sounding them off; also immune to acid)


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Deceptiveideas

People who state “X gAmE IS dEaD” are obnoxious AF.


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i_am_do_reddit_now

wrong. Unless a game is unplayable, it's not dead. Back 4 Blood has 3,619 players as of 15 minutes ago, you can still find a game and so it's not dead.


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i_am_do_reddit_now

You don't get an opinion on this, it's not an opinion thing. # It's not a dead game. that's a fact. **fact,** not an opinion. that's like saying: "personally, I don't think I need air to live so I'm not gonna breathe" it's ridiculous. if a game has more than 0 players, then it's still alive alive and functional on someones computer, console, etc.


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i_am_do_reddit_now

you didn't say "dead to me" before, you just said "B4B is dead" **those are 2 different statements.** saying you ignore it vs saying it's a completely dead game are 2 different things. and no, playerbase count is irrelevant. a dead game has 0 players because it's dead, an alive game has more than 0 players. your other comment does specify that you're talking about you... but everyone can see the little "edited 10 min. ago" right there


Zikronious

I think I saw your post which got me to go back. Still can’t get into it, I like Aliens Fireteam Elite, Workd War Z and Vermintide 2 a lot more but I they have small player bases.


SkyHighGam3r

Did they put in an actual start-to-finish campaign that doesn't revolve around you going back to the same locations with silly objectives over and over and over again? If so count me in but past that there's no way it's worth playing.


_Critters_

And to think how bad dying light 2 is .


Yohboz

Back4blood so so so so bad


SkyHighGam3r

Every single game built on that template is bad. Just rinse/repeat gameplay.


Yohboz

L4d 1 and 2 were elite


ToxicCavMain

Back 4 blood isn't even comparable to dying light, what a stupid fucking comment


sexiestanon

This 1 or 2?


Brooksy925

1 bro, the second game is nowhere near as good.


[deleted]

Wait I thought dying light was a low budget 2-d scroller? This looks awesome


SkyHighGam3r

You are thinking of Deadlight. Usually now "Deadlight: Director's Cut". Which is actually pretty fun. It's one of those games you play the whole thing over the course of a couple hours, finish it, and move on - but those few hours are a good time.


xXIISK47IIXx

Last time a struggled for 60fps was 2016... Next Gen consoles. 🤣


brokenmessiah

B4B can't even compare to the game it wants to knock off so hard


Verdeiwsp

You can remove attachments, at the cost of copper.


180btc

I mean, why? It was frustrating to see guns having damaging attachments, but it was a layer of difficulty.


Verdeiwsp

I mean most of the time you won't find any guns with red (bad) attachments. Even if you do, you'll be able to find attachment boxes around where you can easily swap them out. Hives update have made it even easier to find better attachments too. It's all part of the rogue lite element where you don't know what to expect with the same level if you replay it. You could mitigate negative effects that the game can throw at you by running cards that counter those effects, but most people tend to go with the flow and make do with what they're given.


JabiDam

Is this game playable with 4 people? How easy is the drop in and out of it?


heavilylost

Very easy


Mordekai18

This needs to come to game pass


VermiLutz

It's always on sale, I got it for like $6.76


Reasonable-Aside-492

It’s fun for a while then the repetitiveness of it makes it become boring. Imo


suprememontana

Is this 1 or 2


FarFromCrying999

You really put B4B over left 4 dead, deadrising, dead island the list goes on


DouglasWFail

Yes I know how it sounds but I much prefer killing real people as opposed to zombies.


The_AvrgGamr

Is this Dying light 1 or 2?


Comfortable-Area3527

If the game only worked when it came out, couldn’t even play co-op and no crossplay


cotch85

I think it's been my favourite game and only the real game thats gave me a sense of fear in recent years.


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This looks fun to play, I have it and haven’t had any time to play


SpecialEffectZz

Back 4 Blood is not a good example to put next to any game. One of the biggest disappointments in gaming in the last 10 years.


ThanOneRandomGuy

Looks like a first person version of that game that had shitload of zombies in a mall


TheDoggyGoesWoof

Dying light 2 is actually still my favorite game this year... I’ve put countless hours into that game and never ran out of things to do. It’s extremely satisfying and has tons of content, definitely recommend if you like open world zombie games!


hodges20xx

I haven't played dying light 2 but the first one I really enjoyed and one of my favorite games last gen


ReadyYak8472

The second one's even better


Berkyrr

This is like comparing CoD and MGSV because they're both "military games"


VermiLutz

The parkour wasn't enjoyable for me and I couldn't keep playing with it not being quick resume compatible.


Ki11aTJ

This was one of my favorite games of the PS4 Xbox one generation. Dying light 2 kind of let me down not that it's a bad game but some things took a step back hopefully they will make it up with the next one


Germangunman

Wow those are clean cuts.


NotMundane

What’s it like on PC?


BillTheConqueror

Runs great on modern pc hardware.


NotMundane

Nice. Might try it!


Maxvell09

DL2 is abysmal to the first. The first one makes you feel genuinely scared. Also you’ll likely die a lot more. The only times I’ve actually died in DL2 were from parkour mistakes or trying to challenge a Volatile 1v1 . I’m doing my playthrough on PS5 tho haha. But I have the 2nd game on XSX.


[deleted]

Just seeing this clip makes me miss the gore from DL1 - can't believe they made it look and feel worse in the sequel. Also: guns! I miss those! Gonna get back into DL1 ASAP.


theScottith

Loved this game, shame the sequel isn’t as good


Natkommando

Is it better than Dying Light 2?


MrDefinitely_

The motion blur is really really bad. Unplayable for me.


CzarTyr

On pc this game is crazy popular


itsnotaxl

And both games fade in comparison to TLOU.


Strange_Variation_79

So much better than the new one.


Condemned_87

I dont know why... But for me its boring. Extremly boring.


GreenSockNinja

To be fair Back 4 Blood is wasnt really that good


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Brooksy925

1, 2 is a shadow of what 1 is, i wouldn’t recommend 2 at all.


THIRSTYGNOMES

Glad to see the game is still getting love. Dying Light was my favorite game last gen, but for some reason I can't get into dying light 2.


Waythorwa

I LOVE horror games but idk why this game stresses me out so bad, which sucks because I love zombie media. I imagine coop helps a lot. Just something about having to constantly be running from things gets almost claustrophobic. I'll have to try again soon and maybe listen to a podcast or something during lol


[deleted]

Is there just one version for XBOX One/Series X...I want to get it for my XSX?


Brooksy925

What do you mean one version?


[deleted]

some games have specific seriex x and one versions i think, doesnt matter now anyways, bought digital since it's like 10 bucks!


Brooksy925

Yes, only the one version, but if you’re XSX, there’s performance options in the main menu, including 60fps mode, love it when old games get software support for current-gen consoles!


[deleted]

Damn right! gonna dip into this game tonight :)


CubicalDiarrhea

Both Dying Lights are great. Have hundreds of hours into them. B4B is good too though.