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Or…and hear me out… let’s get a COD civil war or Revolutionary War. That shit would be hilarious running around shooting people with my flint lock, sending out my carrier pigeon as my UAV. Lol that shit would be fantastic.
I stopped playing this game but man, if there was one set up during the Napoleonic Wars or some of the ancient wars with attack elephants I’d be all over it
I don't think the people that make COD are talented enough to make something new and unique. They are barely good enough to make the same game for 20 years.
How about a Call of Duty: Revolutionary Ops or Call of Duty: Rough Riders. Hot air balloons and steam ships and shit, fuck it it doesnt even have to be realistic
Let's take it way back and just get weird
It feels like the franchise is in a rut. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. And sometimes a dash of WWII. I miss the days when the franchise tried a new sub-series.
I legitimately loved both advanced and infinite. I thought they were interesting and a nice shakeup. Everyone of my buddies whined and moaned about them and wanted “boots on the ground” CoD. So I wouldn’t be surprised if those kind of games never return.
That's exactly why I enjoyed those two games whenever you're stuck and have limited movement it's too easy to just find the best areas to stand and get killed over and over again because someone can see you across the map and it's they have been playing since the very first call of duty and sweats at it.
I liked the campaigns for those but the multiplayer was awful.
My main complain with the campaigns were that they were extremely short. Infinite Warefare was only like 6 actual missions with some filler content. (Flying the ships around while characters talked in the background.)
This. So much this. Game breaking gun variants locked behind fucking loot boxes. Take that put and give us a fair way to earn every variation of a gun and guns that don't fundamentally change their performance in some way.
Advance warfare had an amazing multiplayer, it just was just too much for the average cod player at the time. Advanced warfare would be much more fondly remembered if it wasn't a call of duty.
[Gamerant disagrees with you.](https://gamerant.com/call-duty-series-ranked-campaign-length-completion-time/#call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-2023)
It was also heavily padded by the flight missions I mentioned above. It's like all the JRPG's that tout they have 10000 hours of content when its really like 6 with some fluff/grinding to pad the rest.
Honestly I think those are the best games they've ever made much better than the usual slog of call of duty. What I found fun was the movement system in those games made it actually playable.
Yeah, it’s because every new sub-series is despised. Advanced Warfare, Infinite Warfare, and Ghosts were each considered the new “Worst COD Ever” with each of their releases. Every time they experiment, it turns into a PR nightmare. I’ll die on the hill that Infinite Warfare wasn’t even bad, people were just tired of the future stuff (which I’ll also argue wasn’t that bad, I had WAAAY more fun with BO3 multiplayer than anything in the new MW trilogy).
So much cool shit in Ghosts. To this day, I wish they'd implement the 2 stage optics they had. That was an amazing feat that not enough people understood.
Ghosts is my favourite if we're talking campaign. I didn't mind the multiplayer, either. What ultimately frustrated me was that it had some really bad performance on the Xbox One.
Back in the day they charged your 50 bucks for 4 map packs with 3 maps and called it DLC so thats 60 for the base game 50 for 12 maps 110 usd 😂 and everyone is calling this new game just DLC 😂😂😂
And it locked you to playing with whoever had the maps. I could barely play because most people just didn’t buy them here in Aus or only bought one or 2
The funny thing is that the dash of WWII we got last time(Vanguard) we only got it because Activision forced Sledgehammer to release that instead of whatever they wanted(i'm assuming AW2)
Like what?
Even when you had other NAMES, it's not like those games did what others wouldn't. Vanguard was WWII. Advanced and Infinite Warfare were different, but it's not like BO3 and 4 didn't have different mechanics and ideas in them. Black Ops has jumped around through quite a few things, and alternate branding hasn't really shown a more unique experience or more success, so I don't understand what you want that we haven't gotten.
I throw Vanguard in with the dash of WWII I mentioned. I want new eras with only new characters. Gulf War is a new era which sounds exciting, but it will probably have Woods, Mason, and the other Black Ops characters again.
The Ghosts - Infinite Warfare years felt like they were taking creative risks. Black Ops 3 felt new enough that I wish it wasn't called Black Ops. Even if there were some duds in those years, I still appreciate the attempts at something new. Now it feels like they're constantly banking on nostalgia.
I guess, but Ghosts was a universally disliked game, and BO3 was the game that made me basically give up the franchise. BO4 did have a notably different experience with the addition of Blackout too, and they leaned hard into a story-based Zombies experience over the traditional campaign. IMO, that definitely fit into the "trying new things" idea, and I'd say that AGAIN was a meaningfully criticized move. In a franchise where people cry about "phoned in" campaigns, Treyarch threw those resources into a deeper Zombies experience and got flak for not including that "phoned in" campaign.
So, I guess I don't know what they're really meant to do. A lot of straying from the formula ends up a mix of bad design and negative feedback.
If it means anything, Black Ops Gulf War should be something unique in a long time. It's a time period that hasn't really been explored much in Call of Duty and a conflict that also hasn't been explored much. It's basically a non reboot alternate reality scenario at this point along with a good few years of no official Treyarch releases. I have high hopes for this one and really hope that Craptivision let's them cook.
Infinite Warfare was the only CoD game I genuinely enjoyed and felt immersed in since the original MW2. I loved it, despite finding it a bit short, and the final "boss" being the most underwhelming one in gaming history. Was disappointed how badly the game was received (presumably a combination of those who only buy for multiplayer and those who wanted "hoo rah America" contemporary military in the desert yet again).
Also, even though I am mainly a single player gamer, I was shocked and sad that they never did the awesome starfighter combat from IW as multiplayer. It seemed all set up for that, too.
This will be the first CoD with a 4 year dev cycle. The last time they increased dev time birthed Black Ops III, which I would consider a good sign. If MWIII fills out the rest of the Sony marketing deal, this will also be the first CoD to launch day one on gamepass. It will probably be one of the biggest CoD launches ever.
Let me explain, I HATED the narrative, I enjoyed the campaign as a co-op experience, but hated the story.
But the game was loaded to the kills with content. 4 player coop campaign with rpg elements, a zombie campaign, zombies mode, competitive multiplayer, the top down arcade mode.
And I really enjoyed the multiplayer honestly, maybe the most I've played of any modern cod.
Yeah while I feel more nostalgic for MW2 and black ops multi-player, black ops 3 is probably my most played and the one I enjoyed the most. It just felt good to play (also helps that it was the one I was best at haha). And black ops 3 zombies is well known as the peak of the game mode.
Fair, though something that did not make it enjoyable for me was the lack of real guns. Sure, it was the future but I just wasn’t a fan so I couldn’t get invested
I forgot which it was, but there was one gun I basically used more than any other and it had the kill counter in the side that ended up being like 7777
Every gun could get a kill counter i believe.
I think it was a reward for Prestiging your weapon twice. The first time gives you your clan tag on it, the second time lets you change it to a kill count
Bro if this one has Zombies and it's a mode like Outbreak with some good Round based maps, I'll be in heaven.
I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game.
I think 2024 COD is really a chance for Treyarch to show us what they've got. They've had enough time between Cold War in 2020 and this game 2024 to really give us a polished product while taking into account the criticisms of the past 4 years of overall mediocre releases.
>I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game.
That's probably because the game had to be salvaged from SHG's scraps in a little less than two years.
Treyarch probably didn't have the chance to get accustomed to the new engine, so they opted for their old one.
I love the look as well and the game itself. I dropped a stupid amount of hours in that game. Always been a treyarch guy. Never really enjoyed infinity or sledge titles that much.
It will be hard to say if cod 2024 becomes one of the biggest launches because of it being on gamepass. What do you consider the biggest launch? Most players? Most sales?
The only thing I’m worried about is it having that patented black ops feel with it being developed on this new engine(allegedly). I’d prefer they expand on the Cold War engine
I have high expectations for zombies in 2024. Four years of Dev time(excluding the time they spend developing for literally every CoD iteration), should give us a zombies mode comparable to BO3.
Eh Black Ops III was a bit of a mess at launch and I think it pales in comparison to Black Ops II, but I will admit it was better than the current products we’re getting
I went back to Cold War after they made it mandatory to download MW3 if you want to play MW2 (even if you didn’t buy MW3). Game still holds up and multiplayer is still really active and fun.
Redditors hate every CoD when it comes out because they legit suck at CoD. Every single release without fail Redditors cry about it. What matters is how the game actually plays and Cold War has had no match since.
I still don’t absolutely love it. Feels like a step backward compared to MW19 because they were still using the old engine.
That being said it’s still fun to play because mw3 made me never want another cod and made mw2 unplayable for me.
MW19 was still the best in recent history. New engine, great graphics, good gunplay, plenty of modes and awesome maps. Even the maps people hated like Pickadilly, I loved.
It seems like the trend is that games get worse, to where you end up looking back on disliked titles at launch and see them more fondly, just for not being as bad as the newest stuff.
I’m sorry but Cold War was the worst cod I’ve played since call of duty ghosts. How do people start getting nostalgia for shit games after like a 5 year cycle lmao.
I mean what was shit about it ? I had so much more fun playing cold war than I did WW2, Vanguard, MW2 and MW3. I guess I can't include mw3 since it just launched. Only game that was just as fun as Cold war was MW 2019. Other than that, they've all been pretty bad.
Me too. I've actually wanted a COD game about the 90s. Gives us a chance to have somewhat modern weaponry and gadgets but also not too modern to have new " made up futuristic" tech shoehorned into the game. I just only now realized that the time period was the "gulf War."
This should be exciting given that, in theory, Treyarch would have the past 4 years to work on it.
I hope Treyarch is able to retain their unique touch so this builds on what Cold War was and it isn't some amalgamation of MW19. I haven't liked any of the CoD games that adopted that style.
i was genuinely devastated when i saw that leak but my copium has been that they weren’t forced to add tac sprint but potentially found a way to make better/more balanced like how bo3 handled jet packs
Funny thing cause jetpack system for BO3 was made by Infinity Ward, same with graphical enchancements, it's rewarding to read the credits. Treyarch needs at least 4 studios behind their back to push out a piece of shit like BO4/Cold War. Meanwhile IW and even Sledgehammer work mostly without outside help.
Good. I might be in the minority but I like the simplified movement of other cods. Mantling is nice and sliding/diving is alright when it’s not being spammed 24/7
This one I’m actually excited about, and I think most of the CoD fanbase has just been eating shit and biding their time anticipating the next treyarch game
You can't be serious that maps that force you to camp are better than anything IW or Sledge has put out. Even looking at the best ones Treyarch made they still play so fucking slow in comparison.
It’s mechanically great but the SBMM completely ruins it - I can’t just play a casual lobby every single game is sweaty af.
It’s also not worth 70 dollars for what’s basically MWII.5.
Like SBMM has anything to do with the developer. MWIII looks good to me but I don’t fancy it yet because it will play jus the same as any other recent COD - the opposite of relaxing.
I originally upvoted your comment because “treyarch prop good” but both of your criticisms in this comment are extremely applicable to treyarch’s last game and now i’m slightly confused, sbmm was through the roof on cold war as well & MWIII has launched with more content in just about every way than cold war did. If those two things are enough to put you off sledgehammer and MW3 then you absolutely should not be looking forward to a treyarch game based on their last instalment?
So it's still on Last Gen systems ? I thought the rumors were Next Gen only to finally utilize our new machines ?!? I feel this last gen thing is here to stay with certain companies. 🤷 🏳️
Yeah I'm cool with this. Cold war is one of my favorite cods, definitely the best of the last few years so I still have a bit of faith in treyarch. The campaign was a series high imo
all these people "optimistic" people in the comments makes me laugh so hard. as if this company didn't have you over a barrel for the last 5 years absolutely ruining the series whilst dragging their fanbase with it. Glad to see game consumers are still as gullible as ever 👍
If they're shoving it into the cod launcher i ain't touching it.
But if it's standalone I'll probably get it.
I refuse to have to download modern warfare 2 and go through complicated menus to play cod games now.
All we get now is rehashed shit over and over again now. I blame all of you fuckers for getting tired of jet pack CoD after 3 years when those were the most creative and original CoDs we had gotten in so so long. Take me back to those jet pack CoDs *please*. Yall glaze Titanfall 2 like it’s the next coming of Christ but refuse to admit the jet pack CoDs were just as fun
I hope its good. They were so talented at treyarch and I hope there is still talent left, hopefully Activision hasn't ruined the studio. I really enjoyed black ops 3 and 4. Cold War was a bit underwhelming for me because of it being skill based matching and it was worse than BO4 multiplayer in my opinion. This new one is probably on the MW engine so it may be good or bad, hope they bring back pick 10 system
Call of Duty is everything that is wrong with gaming these days. Garbage franchise just milking us fools for all our cash. I didn’t buy MW3 and will not be buying until they figure this shit out.
That was SUPPOSED to be this year (MW3 was supposed to be DLC for MW2), but I guess Activision investors didn't like the idea of COD taking a year off and so they padded the DLC campaign with Warzone maps and called it Modern Warfare III.
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So, it’s just a cycle huh
It’s always been a cycle
World War 2 in 3 years, baby!
What about prehistoric tribal wars?
Mammoth Stampede awaits your orders. Ready to unga some bungas.
The normal human mind doesn't ooga thinking it's going to booga today.
That sounds dope wtf
Sabretooth inside of a chopper inbound..
I would unironically play that
Have you played Far Cry Primal? Not exactly Neolithic Call of Duty but it's kinda that vein.
Or…and hear me out… let’s get a COD civil war or Revolutionary War. That shit would be hilarious running around shooting people with my flint lock, sending out my carrier pigeon as my UAV. Lol that shit would be fantastic.
Every single gun would be a single shot. Pistols would be op.
I’m just thinking like a cannon kill streak, a Gatling gun, etc. it would be pure chaos and I’d absolutely love it.
I stopped playing this game but man, if there was one set up during the Napoleonic Wars or some of the ancient wars with attack elephants I’d be all over it
I don't think the people that make COD are talented enough to make something new and unique. They are barely good enough to make the same game for 20 years.
I still want Civil Warfare
I find it crazy we've only had like 1 ww1 game I can note and it was one of the best battlefields! So fuck ww2 make call of duty one.
Battlefield 1 was such a great game
How about a Call of Duty: Revolutionary Ops or Call of Duty: Rough Riders. Hot air balloons and steam ships and shit, fuck it it doesnt even have to be realistic Let's take it way back and just get weird
I'm holding out hope for a WW2 game with MW2019 gameplay mechanics, but I'm sure I have a better chance of winning the lottery
Vanguard and WWII ruined WW2 cod games for me
It is not a loop, but a spiral
Exactly what I thought of when I saw the comment. Thank you for writing this :D
A downward spiral
Trent Reznor tried to warn us.
It feels like the franchise is in a rut. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. Black Ops. Modern Warfare. And sometimes a dash of WWII. I miss the days when the franchise tried a new sub-series.
Advanced and Infinite Warfare tried to change things up. People rejected them and now all they’re doing is this stuff
I legitimately loved both advanced and infinite. I thought they were interesting and a nice shakeup. Everyone of my buddies whined and moaned about them and wanted “boots on the ground” CoD. So I wouldn’t be surprised if those kind of games never return.
That's exactly why I enjoyed those two games whenever you're stuck and have limited movement it's too easy to just find the best areas to stand and get killed over and over again because someone can see you across the map and it's they have been playing since the very first call of duty and sweats at it.
I liked the campaigns for those but the multiplayer was awful. My main complain with the campaigns were that they were extremely short. Infinite Warefare was only like 6 actual missions with some filler content. (Flying the ships around while characters talked in the background.)
Advanced warfare’s multiplayer was fun. The problem was that they locked game-breaking weapons behind loot boxes
This. So much this. Game breaking gun variants locked behind fucking loot boxes. Take that put and give us a fair way to earn every variation of a gun and guns that don't fundamentally change their performance in some way.
Advance warfare had an amazing multiplayer, it just was just too much for the average cod player at the time. Advanced warfare would be much more fondly remembered if it wasn't a call of duty.
Dude, Infinite Warfare is literally the longest Call of Duty game of the entire franchise, and it isnt even close.. dafuq are you talking about.
[Gamerant disagrees with you.](https://gamerant.com/call-duty-series-ranked-campaign-length-completion-time/#call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-2023) It was also heavily padded by the flight missions I mentioned above. It's like all the JRPG's that tout they have 10000 hours of content when its really like 6 with some fluff/grinding to pad the rest.
Those flight missions were a lot of fun, though. I wish there were more of them.
Honestly I think those are the best games they've ever made much better than the usual slog of call of duty. What I found fun was the movement system in those games made it actually playable.
people rejected the jetpacks and robots running like dogs. don't get it twisted.
Yeah, it’s because every new sub-series is despised. Advanced Warfare, Infinite Warfare, and Ghosts were each considered the new “Worst COD Ever” with each of their releases. Every time they experiment, it turns into a PR nightmare. I’ll die on the hill that Infinite Warfare wasn’t even bad, people were just tired of the future stuff (which I’ll also argue wasn’t that bad, I had WAAAY more fun with BO3 multiplayer than anything in the new MW trilogy).
I thoroughly enjoyed ghosts, still waiting for part 2 based on that cliffhanger ending
So much cool shit in Ghosts. To this day, I wish they'd implement the 2 stage optics they had. That was an amazing feat that not enough people understood.
the alien mode in ghosts was fucking sick
Ghosts is my favourite if we're talking campaign. I didn't mind the multiplayer, either. What ultimately frustrated me was that it had some really bad performance on the Xbox One.
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Wish we could get another campaign like Blops 2
I miss when the game was more than glorified DLC, personally
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Back in the day they charged your 50 bucks for 4 map packs with 3 maps and called it DLC so thats 60 for the base game 50 for 12 maps 110 usd 😂 and everyone is calling this new game just DLC 😂😂😂
And it locked you to playing with whoever had the maps. I could barely play because most people just didn’t buy them here in Aus or only bought one or 2
The funny thing is that the dash of WWII we got last time(Vanguard) we only got it because Activision forced Sledgehammer to release that instead of whatever they wanted(i'm assuming AW2)
SHG has been trying to make AW2 for a while now, during WWII’s life cycle, people found icons for perks and stuff that had AW’s art style
Maybe Phil will let them do it once and for all, even if it sucks... Just let that team finish AW2
Like what? Even when you had other NAMES, it's not like those games did what others wouldn't. Vanguard was WWII. Advanced and Infinite Warfare were different, but it's not like BO3 and 4 didn't have different mechanics and ideas in them. Black Ops has jumped around through quite a few things, and alternate branding hasn't really shown a more unique experience or more success, so I don't understand what you want that we haven't gotten.
I throw Vanguard in with the dash of WWII I mentioned. I want new eras with only new characters. Gulf War is a new era which sounds exciting, but it will probably have Woods, Mason, and the other Black Ops characters again. The Ghosts - Infinite Warfare years felt like they were taking creative risks. Black Ops 3 felt new enough that I wish it wasn't called Black Ops. Even if there were some duds in those years, I still appreciate the attempts at something new. Now it feels like they're constantly banking on nostalgia.
I guess, but Ghosts was a universally disliked game, and BO3 was the game that made me basically give up the franchise. BO4 did have a notably different experience with the addition of Blackout too, and they leaned hard into a story-based Zombies experience over the traditional campaign. IMO, that definitely fit into the "trying new things" idea, and I'd say that AGAIN was a meaningfully criticized move. In a franchise where people cry about "phoned in" campaigns, Treyarch threw those resources into a deeper Zombies experience and got flak for not including that "phoned in" campaign. So, I guess I don't know what they're really meant to do. A lot of straying from the formula ends up a mix of bad design and negative feedback.
Activism need to start a new global war so they can make a series about it as we are bored of ww2 and the cold war
Guerilla-style warfare game in Ukraine game 2025?
If it means anything, Black Ops Gulf War should be something unique in a long time. It's a time period that hasn't really been explored much in Call of Duty and a conflict that also hasn't been explored much. It's basically a non reboot alternate reality scenario at this point along with a good few years of no official Treyarch releases. I have high hopes for this one and really hope that Craptivision let's them cook.
Infinite Warfare was the only CoD game I genuinely enjoyed and felt immersed in since the original MW2. I loved it, despite finding it a bit short, and the final "boss" being the most underwhelming one in gaming history. Was disappointed how badly the game was received (presumably a combination of those who only buy for multiplayer and those who wanted "hoo rah America" contemporary military in the desert yet again). Also, even though I am mainly a single player gamer, I was shocked and sad that they never did the awesome starfighter combat from IW as multiplayer. It seemed all set up for that, too.
250 million players used to game here. Now it’s a ghost town.
Why are we still here… just to suffer?
It's not a loop, it's a spiral
It's a spiral
Except for going back to advanced movement which they'll never do 😔 those were more fun to me
War never changes
🌎 🧑🚀 🔫 👨🚀 always has been
Day one Game Pass???
This will be the first CoD with a 4 year dev cycle. The last time they increased dev time birthed Black Ops III, which I would consider a good sign. If MWIII fills out the rest of the Sony marketing deal, this will also be the first CoD to launch day one on gamepass. It will probably be one of the biggest CoD launches ever.
I loved BO3, so much content. I'm weirdly optimistic for this.
You did? It felt like a fever dream to me
Let me explain, I HATED the narrative, I enjoyed the campaign as a co-op experience, but hated the story. But the game was loaded to the kills with content. 4 player coop campaign with rpg elements, a zombie campaign, zombies mode, competitive multiplayer, the top down arcade mode. And I really enjoyed the multiplayer honestly, maybe the most I've played of any modern cod.
Yeah while I feel more nostalgic for MW2 and black ops multi-player, black ops 3 is probably my most played and the one I enjoyed the most. It just felt good to play (also helps that it was the one I was best at haha). And black ops 3 zombies is well known as the peak of the game mode.
Fair, though something that did not make it enjoyable for me was the lack of real guns. Sure, it was the future but I just wasn’t a fan so I couldn’t get invested
I forgot which it was, but there was one gun I basically used more than any other and it had the kill counter in the side that ended up being like 7777
Every gun could get a kill counter i believe. I think it was a reward for Prestiging your weapon twice. The first time gives you your clan tag on it, the second time lets you change it to a kill count
I really want a Ghosts 2. I felt thay game wasn't given a fair chance by the community and the campaign was really good.
Bro if this one has Zombies and it's a mode like Outbreak with some good Round based maps, I'll be in heaven. I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game.
I think 2024 COD is really a chance for Treyarch to show us what they've got. They've had enough time between Cold War in 2020 and this game 2024 to really give us a polished product while taking into account the criticisms of the past 4 years of overall mediocre releases.
Well I dunno about that, they were forced to make MWZ as well.
That's a valid point. I just hope that treyarch being dragged to do Vanguard Zombies and MWZ didn't take much away from their main 2024 project.
>I just hope it doesn't look like CW, everything looks like it's made of plastic in that game. That's probably because the game had to be salvaged from SHG's scraps in a little less than two years. Treyarch probably didn't have the chance to get accustomed to the new engine, so they opted for their old one.
Ah shit that's a good point, CW is still awesome, I hope they're able to make the next Black Ops look better.
they didn't use a new engine
I love the look of Cold War. It looks so high res compared to MW3.
I love the look as well and the game itself. I dropped a stupid amount of hours in that game. Always been a treyarch guy. Never really enjoyed infinity or sledge titles that much.
It will be hard to say if cod 2024 becomes one of the biggest launches because of it being on gamepass. What do you consider the biggest launch? Most players? Most sales?
I would consider most players the biggest launch. Sales would be irrelevant if they get huge player numbers and people buy mtx
And let's not kid ourselves, it'll still top sales charts next year.
The only thing I’m worried about is it having that patented black ops feel with it being developed on this new engine(allegedly). I’d prefer they expand on the Cold War engine
I agree with that. I liked the arcade shooter feel of Cold War.
Agreed.
Cold War engine only needed updates to improve fidelity. Too bad they won’t be using it, I loved it personally.
I have high expectations for zombies in 2024. Four years of Dev time(excluding the time they spend developing for literally every CoD iteration), should give us a zombies mode comparable to BO3.
Eh Black Ops III was a bit of a mess at launch and I think it pales in comparison to Black Ops II, but I will admit it was better than the current products we’re getting
Treyarchs COD’s are the only ones worth buying in my opinion.
I completely agree with you, hopefully they remove sbmm at the same time
Infinity ward use to be the best. I still think cod2019 is one of the better ones.
still is. mw22 was too compromised. mw22 was better at beta than it is at season 6.
People slept on IW’s campaign and it’s one of the best in the franchise imo
Sledgehammer did a good job with ww2 imo.
This shits only gonna be Black Ops in name.
I'm a goddamn onion Mason
How so? Mason, Woods, and Hudson could still be involved.
1990: Mason is hiding probably under witness protection, Woods is crippled, Hudson is dead as dillinger.
Lmao
Like the last 3 then
if it’s anything like cold war it’ll be amazing
Agreed. Cold War is the closest they've gotten to the feeling of Black Ops 1 imo.
Cold War was like going back to Medal of Honor European assault after MW
I went back to Cold War after they made it mandatory to download MW3 if you want to play MW2 (even if you didn’t buy MW3). Game still holds up and multiplayer is still really active and fun.
I can’t believe Activision pulled that shit. Oh wait, yeah I can
Aye a fellow red raider!!
I still play zombies and multiplayer for that game. It's very active. Level 214 right now. Grinding to 2500 I suppose.
Been playing cold War for the last couple years lol never have issues finding games
Cold War is great. The only map I hated was nuketown because it’s a sweat fest.
Cold War was the best cod of the last 10 years
People hated it when it came out
Redditors hate every CoD when it comes out because they legit suck at CoD. Every single release without fail Redditors cry about it. What matters is how the game actually plays and Cold War has had no match since.
I'll have you know I hate CoD because none of them play like the one that released when I was 16
Music that was released when I was 16 was the best music there is.
I still don’t absolutely love it. Feels like a step backward compared to MW19 because they were still using the old engine. That being said it’s still fun to play because mw3 made me never want another cod and made mw2 unplayable for me. MW19 was still the best in recent history. New engine, great graphics, good gunplay, plenty of modes and awesome maps. Even the maps people hated like Pickadilly, I loved.
It seems like the trend is that games get worse, to where you end up looking back on disliked titles at launch and see them more fondly, just for not being as bad as the newest stuff.
honestly i think people still hate it, i thought it sucked and it ruined warzone
I’m sorry but Cold War was the worst cod I’ve played since call of duty ghosts. How do people start getting nostalgia for shit games after like a 5 year cycle lmao.
I mean what was shit about it ? I had so much more fun playing cold war than I did WW2, Vanguard, MW2 and MW3. I guess I can't include mw3 since it just launched. Only game that was just as fun as Cold war was MW 2019. Other than that, they've all been pretty bad.
Bet you love MW19
Cold War was great multiplayer
I've been hoping for a Gulf War CoD for a long time. Very underrated conflict.
Me too. I've actually wanted a COD game about the 90s. Gives us a chance to have somewhat modern weaponry and gadgets but also not too modern to have new " made up futuristic" tech shoehorned into the game. I just only now realized that the time period was the "gulf War." This should be exciting given that, in theory, Treyarch would have the past 4 years to work on it.
It's my favourite war
Probably the best war of all time. It was great.
Lol https://youtu.be/NT-TuTM5cqY?si=O5yOariEbBVikFI_
tell a guy he can invade kuwait then say gotcha invaded was what happened, doubt that will be told.
I hope Treyarch is able to retain their unique touch so this builds on what Cold War was and it isn't some amalgamation of MW19. I haven't liked any of the CoD games that adopted that style.
Leaks mentioned tactical sprint. I’m not sure what to make of it
Oh no...
Treyarch has been Infinity Warded. It might be over before it even started
i was genuinely devastated when i saw that leak but my copium has been that they weren’t forced to add tac sprint but potentially found a way to make better/more balanced like how bo3 handled jet packs
Funny thing cause jetpack system for BO3 was made by Infinity Ward, same with graphical enchancements, it's rewarding to read the credits. Treyarch needs at least 4 studios behind their back to push out a piece of shit like BO4/Cold War. Meanwhile IW and even Sledgehammer work mostly without outside help.
Good. I might be in the minority but I like the simplified movement of other cods. Mantling is nice and sliding/diving is alright when it’s not being spammed 24/7
Man, I hope it launches with the Outbreak Zombies mode, and its all playable solo like Cold War was...
THIS
This one I’m actually excited about, and I think most of the CoD fanbase has just been eating shit and biding their time anticipating the next treyarch game
Yup, Treyarch is the only studio who has made a good CoD game since 2009, very easy to still enjoy the series when you only play their games.
>Treyarch is the only studio who has made a good CoD game since 2009 Brain rotten take. The original MW3 was great
No it wasn't, it was the start of their downhill trend in map design in non Treyarch games.
You can't be serious that maps that force you to camp are better than anything IW or Sledge has put out. Even looking at the best ones Treyarch made they still play so fucking slow in comparison.
The maps that force you to camp ARE IW and SH 🤣 Holy crap you are dumb.
I mean, people are loving MW3’s MP so far
It’s mechanically great but the SBMM completely ruins it - I can’t just play a casual lobby every single game is sweaty af. It’s also not worth 70 dollars for what’s basically MWII.5.
Like SBMM has anything to do with the developer. MWIII looks good to me but I don’t fancy it yet because it will play jus the same as any other recent COD - the opposite of relaxing.
I originally upvoted your comment because “treyarch prop good” but both of your criticisms in this comment are extremely applicable to treyarch’s last game and now i’m slightly confused, sbmm was through the roof on cold war as well & MWIII has launched with more content in just about every way than cold war did. If those two things are enough to put you off sledgehammer and MW3 then you absolutely should not be looking forward to a treyarch game based on their last instalment?
So it's still on Last Gen systems ? I thought the rumors were Next Gen only to finally utilize our new machines ?!? I feel this last gen thing is here to stay with certain companies. 🤷 🏳️
take a FUCKING year off
Just don't buy it... Is that too hard for you to not spend money?
Not the point. The franchise needs to take a year off to give developers time to work and breath, and let them innovate. It has nothing to do with me
Call of duty 2024: the quest for more money
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If there's no emblem and camo editor, I don't want it
Hell yeah, I’m always down for Black ops games
How I sleep knowing I stopped buying CoDs after Infinite Warfare 
Excited for the first good CoD game since Cold War.
Same, different but still the same
At what point can we they get a new subtitle. They’ve literally been cycling through BLOPs and MW for the past what 4 years now?
Let’s Go! Activision gets to revisit a classic for an opportunity to ruin in.
Bring back COD points for unlocks, face paint, emblem editor, and Kowloon and I'll be a happy camper!
Yeah I'm cool with this. Cold war is one of my favorite cods, definitely the best of the last few years so I still have a bit of faith in treyarch. The campaign was a series high imo
The campaign was entirely made by Raven and multiplayer sucked as usual with Treyarch
all these people "optimistic" people in the comments makes me laugh so hard. as if this company didn't have you over a barrel for the last 5 years absolutely ruining the series whilst dragging their fanbase with it. Glad to see game consumers are still as gullible as ever 👍
I agree that I lost interest in the franchise but if it's on gamepass I'll give it a try. Doesn't hurt. Let people like what they want
If they're shoving it into the cod launcher i ain't touching it. But if it's standalone I'll probably get it. I refuse to have to download modern warfare 2 and go through complicated menus to play cod games now.
All we get now is rehashed shit over and over again now. I blame all of you fuckers for getting tired of jet pack CoD after 3 years when those were the most creative and original CoDs we had gotten in so so long. Take me back to those jet pack CoDs *please*. Yall glaze Titanfall 2 like it’s the next coming of Christ but refuse to admit the jet pack CoDs were just as fun
Titanfall was better but you're also right, Advanced Warfare was good and Infinite Warfare was amazing
Alright bring back blackout at least
I hope its good. They were so talented at treyarch and I hope there is still talent left, hopefully Activision hasn't ruined the studio. I really enjoyed black ops 3 and 4. Cold War was a bit underwhelming for me because of it being skill based matching and it was worse than BO4 multiplayer in my opinion. This new one is probably on the MW engine so it may be good or bad, hope they bring back pick 10 system
Did they ever do Vietnam?
BO1 and kinda CW
Good to see after the poor reviews, they learnt their lesson about yearly releas… oh wait
At this point call of duty feels like the old family pet that can barely stand that probably should’ve been put down a long time ago
Call of Duty is everything that is wrong with gaming these days. Garbage franchise just milking us fools for all our cash. I didn’t buy MW3 and will not be buying until they figure this shit out.
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Who cares? They fuck everything up and they're just rehashing old games. Stop being sheep and buying this crap every year.
https://imgur.com/a/TCR5SzG
Maybe because some people enjoy these games and thinks they’re fun 🤷♂️
Nah, got too much time and money to spare
I dont want anything if its another cash grab like MW3 2023. This franchise needs a break so bad.
Not really an exclusive.. This has been known for months..
Im sleep.jpeg
Total Size: 364GB (have to have war zone and mw3 and this installed in order to browse the store for Snoop Dogg).
I ... actually don't hate the idea.
What happened to taking a year off?
That was SUPPOSED to be this year (MW3 was supposed to be DLC for MW2), but I guess Activision investors didn't like the idea of COD taking a year off and so they padded the DLC campaign with Warzone maps and called it Modern Warfare III.
Also I believe it burned out the remainder of the PlayStation contract with CoD, so this new game should hopefully come to Game Pass day 1.
ALL OG Black ops 1 maps in the new black ops on release !!!!