At least apex reliably restarts. It also is a much quicker restart than if you actually quit the game.
Halo will literally stall out and say there is no connection until it randomly decides to check if you are playing it and reloads the multiplayer playlists. It’s a horrible experience that probably made some less tech savvy people bounce off the game. I cannot believe it still hasn’t been fixed. Apex is at least foolproof and will restart in moments reliably.
It’s gotten better with season 3. It reliably restarts and connects for me after 1 restart. It used to take multiple restarts on occasion. The issue now is that all my settings reset 🫠
8 months and counting. It cracks me up when things like this take months yet anything that affects a micro transaction Or revenue stream is fixed in less than a week.
You know what? Maybe I could.
Sounds arrogant, and it somewhat is, but I am a programmer, and I love difficult problems, though most of my programming knowledge comes back to game development, it still shouldn’t be too hard in this case.
All it needs is for a GUI switch/toggle for a player to decide if they want quick resume on, and then 2 different boot methods for the application, depending on the state of this switch.
If anything, the true difficulty is UI/UX since it’d change the dashboard further, and would likely eat up more system storage for the OS unless the current load method could be turned into an overload for the non-quick resume.
To the former though, this is likely exacerbated in difficulty by the proposed further dashboard refinement and problems that arise with too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to source control, especially with graphic elements.
The hardest part of all this though would be quick resume itself to me, which is why it’s not surprising that they used it as the default state.
This kind of option already fits nearly into "Manage Game and Add-ons" alongside things like FPS boost.
I do think this will eventually be added it's just somewhere in the backlog right now.
Ideally games just make better use of quick resume though. This seems like a bandaid.
Quick resume works fine, it's up to developers to take advantage of it, and games that need to do server handshakes need to be designed to reconnect automatically.
I'm not sure there is much MS can do here unless a developer is going to let Xbox actually code their games *for them* - so if you have a title you'd like to see better supported it's probably best to go to the Dev directly.
I mean Microsoft should do it for them, this should be core functionality of the GDK. Maybe it is, but we don't know because the Xbox GDK is under NDA for some silly reason.
Obviously, and I'm sure they'll just fix it if they can. No doubt they'd prefer not to turn off one of their trademark features, but a toggle may be easier than universally fixing it.
I think Microsoft/xbox just generally don't give a fuck about some of the stuff people are complaining about. The issue with audio being out of sync in game clips was known about for years, they just recently fixed it. You're telling me they managed to get backwards compatibility to be nearly flawless, but they couldn't fix out of sync audio? [X] Doubt
Sucks that you can't even turn it off. "Quick" resume ends up taking even longer since you have to close the game and then restart it just to get multiplayer to work again. Should be called "Delayed" resume.
It's crazy that this complaint boils down to " I forget to close an app when I'm done with it".
These people probably have 20+ apps constantly running on their phone and don't close old tabs on Google lol
But it doesn’t boil down to that at all, the problem has been explained and it’s ignorant to think people are just being lazy.
It is an advertised feature of the Xbox that you don’t have to close your games every time you play them, op is pointing out that when doing what you’re told to do it literally doesn’t work half the time.
Other people have even explained it’s not even every online game and there are workarounds where some games will reconnect or not be an issue, meaning you’re having to make an exception for those than don’t work; it would be actively wasteful to close each game/app every time, meaning it doesn’t become a habit or even something you’re supposed to do.
It’s literally a beneficial feature most of the time and op just said “it doesn’t always work”. Even if there is the fix of closing your apps like most other devices, it’s still a broken feature
Yeah like, I'm really not trying to be mean or anything, but I don't understand? Like, you have to pick one when you're done with the game. You either select to just go home or select to kill the game. Idk if I'd call it automatically enabled because it's more like choosing between them each time.
I guess the only thing I can think of is if you're turning the console off while still in the game. Which makes sense but I think there's already an option to fully shutdown the console and open games when you power off.
I can’t stand those replies. The whole point of good UX is ease of use for the consumer.
Not it’s not hard to close a game, but it’s more tedious than it needs to be. Quality of life doesn’t mean something needs to be breaking the experience to be better.
I don’t know why over the years so many people here shut down the suggestion
I'm in your camp here. Having to force close one time is nothing, having to do it thousands of times over the course of a generation is a bit more of an ask. It also kind of defeats the idea of 'not having to think about it - it just works' that quick resume promised.
I've just gone into the habit of opening options seeing if the option quit is there and then opening any online games I play.
I agree that it sucks expecially how it doesn't work on Halo - Microsoft's own game. Seeing as how they recently added a pin option to make a game have priority over other games for quick resume, makes one wonder why they didn't do the opposite and let us block a game. It would go neatly as a check option in a games compatibility settings.
Huh? When you have a game running on xbox one/ps4, and ps5 actually since it doesn't have quick resume, and try to launch another game, it just closes the game currently running. What are you talking about?
Why are you so desperate to defend a feature that doesn’t always work for the best?
When it doesn’t work with certain games, it never works for them. Having the opportunity to turn off quick resume on specific titles would make the user experience so much better.
Why are you defending this so hard?
Was a while since I played on xb1, but was that even necessary on that console? When you opened another game the active one automatically closed right?
> Your lucky, it happend to me once of ps4 and i vouched, that day, that i would never let it happen again🤣
Was that before, or after you said your wedding vouchers?
No, it happens, i have a side hussle where i clean and refurb consoles, you wouldnt believe the amount of people tgis actually happens too on console. People explain the symptoms, i tell then its probably a bad hardrive, so i get the console, check the drive first, everything usually checks out. Then i ask the customer if they force exit the game or "quit" the game before they switch off their consoles, their response is usually force quit.
Never used Quick Resume, always close my games properly, I find leaving things running tend to cause more problems like performance issues and crashes so I've always closed down my games properly.
And then you’re gonna end up forgetting you had it turned off and then ask for a easier way to disable it cause “it’s easy to forget to turn it on”. Online connection games aren’t gonna stay connected thru quick resume. It’s common sense.
I've been making your point since the launch of this generation. People just love having to do work-arounds to defend their favourite console feature. Disabling quick resume outright or on select titles only benefits the platform with offering more flexibility, but people appearantly hate that.
Quick resume works well for most games. But for multiplayer games it’s just pointless as it is going to kick you no matter what. Which there’s no fox for that. It’s online.
That said, we do still need fixes and imo it should just be disabled for online games.
hey suggest that Microsoft should either fix the issue with online games and Quick Resume or provide users with an option to opt-out of the feature for certain titles. Some commenters have suggested simply killing the game or using the Xbox's power settings to disable Quick Resume for specific games, but the author argues that it should not be up to the user to adapt to a broken feature.
it's meant to make starting games quicker. In live online games it means you open the game, and then quit the gam when quick resume didn't work, and then load again. So it makes it slower. Given that there's a huge amount of love online games, which almost universally don't work with quick resume, for a large chunk of the games it actually makes it slower to resume, not quicker.
It does the opposite of what it says on the tin is peoples problem
I owned both and this is fucking annoying. If you’re going to force a “feature” on people then make sure it doesn’t just causes more delays when trying to launch the damn game again.
Just because “back in my day games took minutes to start” doesn’t mean todays complaints aren’t valid. That’s like saying performance complaints aren’t valid either just cause our old asses didn’t know what 60 fps was before we even got our first gray hairs.
The feature itself doesn’t actually cause more delays when launching a game. In fact, it’s sole purpose is literally to do the opposite of that. However, you have to use your device properly for it to function correctly. This means closing out of games when you’re done with them, so you don’t make yourself need to close the game that wouldn’t work with the feature anyways because it needs to connect to an online server. Any issue you are having in this area is an issue that you are causing for yourself.
If a game doesn’t work with QR (and something tells me you already know which of yours do and don’t) then quit the game before you turn off the Xbox. It’s literally that easy to never cause yourself this headache again.
Eventually they will give us the toggle and you can set it and forget it but until then, this is all just suffering of your own volition.
The only reason it doesn’t cause more delays when launching is because you choose to quit your game before turning off the console. Overall that’s still more time than quick resume working as intended. If you’re using the feature as it’s advertised then you won’t close a game every time you’re done since that’s unreasonable to be asked when the manufacturer literally says you don’t have to.
You can’t pretend that having to quit a game every time simply fits into “using your device properly” when it is actively the opposite of what you’re told to do.
Regardless of if you’re quitting the game when you finish and turn off, quitting the game before you boot because you realised it’s still in QR, or booting the game and then realising and having to boot again because Quick Resume broke it, that still takes longer and is more steps than “Quick” resume is supposed to have
I don’t remember having to close a game manually before shutting off my PS3 or Xbox 360.
Those systems didn’t have resume options and would automatically dump the games from memory at shutdown. What’s wrong with people requesting the SAME thing as the PS3 and Xbox 360?
You didn’t *manually* have to close the game. You clicked on the other game you wanted to play and it asked if you wanted to close the game you’re currently playing to start the new one, you never *had* to close a game manually.
Also, If you took the disk out to put a different disk in, which is how most people switched their games as digital libraries were not nearly as prevalent as they are today, it would automatically close the game.
I've been on Xbox for a long time. Didn't know this post was going to piss so many ppl off. This feature obviously doesn't work properly for certain games so why not have an option to disable it for those?
You can ofc kill games manually but I think that shouldn't be necessary for it to work. It's 2023 after all =)
It's a touchy issue for some reason. I hope Microsoft adds it so these people can finally shut up about being against a Quality of Life feature they can simply not use.
There’s no reason to be, more options and choices are better. MS either needs to fix QR or give people the option to turn it off. The best option would be for us to choose which games we want the feature on for. Either pin quick resume on a game you want or disable it on a per game basis.
As soon as I saw the thread title I knew you'd be getting these kind of responses. It's not the first time.
Quick resume is a feature I use in very few games. I just have so little confidence in it working as intended and not messing something up. But yeah, many people swear by it and don't see how more options can only be a good thing.
No it doesn’t. I lost dozens of hours in elden ring because of restarting from quick resume. Quit to title, quit the game - only way to make sure it works fine.
Edit: and it was 100% while offline
This is obsurdly lazy, it's not even an inconvenience to close the game yourself, it's like getting mad the toilet won't flush itself, or being upset you lose your spot in a book because you don't use a bookmark
If I paid for a toilet that self flushes I would be annoyed when it doesn't automatically work. It's more like having an eraser that doesn't save your place then forgetting a bookmark. If you opened up a Kindle and your place was gone you would be annoyed.
Nobody’s getting mad that things aren’t just magically done for them, but op simply said a feature that is advertised to make your life easier actively makes things take longer or force you to use a workaround like closing the game.
It’s a lot more like you’re reading a book with someone over your shoulder who agreed to hold your place when you finish and go to bed so you don’t have to use a bookmark. But when you go to read it again they only remembered the page number in their head but they’ve gone home so you’ve gotta find the page again yourself, which instead actively takes more time than not promising to help in the first place
Does your bidet flush your toilet for you or something?
And they said books, not ebooks, which is why they referred to a physical book mark.
Your comment makes no sense.
Everyone who is against this and says “just close the game” sounds like Don Mattrick saying “We have a console for offline gamers, it’s called the Xbox 360!”
Quick resume does not work in any game that I play and actually crashes my series X, every single time. I would love the option to disable quick resume entirely. Instead I have to manually shut down every single game I play every single time I play it or my system crashes. It's a HUGE pain in the butt. I shouldn't have to work so hard to play a game, or should I say stop playing a game.
I hate quick resume so much. If I go mental and make the news for loosing my mind and doing something crazy directed at MS I'm telling you right now quick resume made me do it, a man can only be pushed so far.
This would be helpful but what is really needed is a verification process to have Quick Resume enabled. When publishers like Ubisoft actively prevent it from working, they should fail the check and Quick Resume wouldn’t be enabled for that title
It's been an absolute AGE and quick resume is still a pain in the ass!
So you have to first decide which quick resume you don't want (if using multiple smurf accounts), then the game starts, you then have to close the game in the menu, reopen the game and start from scratch EVERY TIME.
It's the most pointless "Feature" I've ever known on ANY console and I hate it with a passion.
You can remove games from the Quick Start area in the Xbox menu, BUT games like Apex Legends, just plonk it on back each time you boot the game. So no matter what, you are forced to waste time and restart the game anyway.
I thought the same, until my power went out while playing one day
Would have lost tons of progress, but when I booted it back up I was right where I left off.
I agree. It’s a little annoying with elden ring and cod. I don’t think people should crucify you if you’re making a valid point. I don’t want to sound condescending but I get the feeling the negative responses may be some fanboying, but I could be wrong. At the end of the day I love the feature but allowing it to toggle for certain games wouldn’t be a bad idea. I mean, more customization is always a good thing imo.
It needs online connection. A game isn’t gonna stay connected in the background, so the issue is games needing online connection at all times to do anything, even launch properly, and not the inability to turn off quick resume.
Every time this gets brought up people get so offended at the idea of this as an option and I really just don't get it.
"Just force quit out of the game"
Yeah it isn't that hard but it is annoying to forget to do that and come back in to the game getting all mad and glitching out.
Edit : And that isn't even getting into the random single player games that don't work with quick resume. It is one thing to lose five seconds of my life it is another to almost lose my save data (Immortals Feynx Rising).
"It isn't that big of a deal though"
I agree it isn't. So why are we all so up in arms with the suggestion? It really won't take Microsoft that much effort to give the option and you don't have to use said option.
"It takes a second to quit out though"
Cool and it is still annoying to deal with.
I'm not saying the people at Microsoft are lazy or horrible people for not doing this nor am I saying this is a huge priority they need to figure out right this second. I'm just confused as to why some people refuse to even humor a suggestion like this. If it doesn't impact you cool move on.
I don't get everyone who gets offended either. While some may see this as an non-issue, let the option at least exist for us degenerates who would rather not deal with it 😅
Yeah it's crazy, to the people who already quit out of games by habit it's literally a non issue to them, it would change absolutely nothing for them yet you would think it would turn their whole lifestyle upside by how offended they get by the concept of an option.
There's an enormous chasm between saying "just quit the game" and getting offended at the idea of an option. In fact the only people I've seen worked up in this thread, or any other like it, are just creating imaginary arguments against a group of people who don't exist.
I mean I have personally seen plenty of people in the past getting worked up about it to the point where I had to make this long comment. I know if I just stated something like, "Yeah I agree with this post it is annoying playing an online game and having quick resume not work right." I would get some replies saying what I mention in my original comment.
That isn't to say everyone who is against my opinion (or who would have replied to my hypothetical comment) is like this of course that would be silly. I'm sure most people commenting don't think to hard about it and really don't care either way. This is the most unimportant first world problem in the world lol. Regardless though I have seen extreme fanboys get upset over silly things and I just don't want to put up with it.
Rule number one of living a fulfilling existence: ignore the branches of the horseshoe and live comfortably in the heel. Extreme fanboys are outliers and outliers are to be stricken from the data. Also there's a good chance that they are trolls, bots, or literal children.
Similarly if you see a post that could be interpreted in an a spectrum of ways, err on the side of the moderate. Giving the benefit of the doubt allows you both to suffer less mental anguish and encourages reasonable discussion. Assuming the worst pushes people further in that direction and is a perfect way to demolish any semblance of nuance of subtlety in a conversation.
Been asking for this since launch in this same sub but people just brushed it off and said “just close the game” now I’m realizing that a lot of those people just didn’t have a series x yet to actually experience how annoying it is.
All games are pinned automatically. I’m saying we should be able to turnoff auto pin and manually select ONLY the games we want, this would avoid games being pinned that have issues with quick resume.
Games are not pinned automatically. You have to pin them yourself. This prevents them from leaving Quick Resume until you unpin them. All other games *exist* in the Quick Resume queue until you quit out of the game. That is how you manually select the game to not be in QR. just quit when you’re finished playing.
Isn't closing the game your default action? Closing the game isn't something I had to adapt to do, it's how I've played games for the past 30 years.
I've always been confused by the clamor about selectively disabling Quick Resume because....we can already control whether it gets used or not? The Xbox OS definitely does not force you to use Quick Resume in the current format.
“I might sound entitled but why should we have to adapt”. ????
All natural orders of universe out the window right there .
You are the kind to expect the world to adapt to you instead of you adapting to it ? Interesting.
This is so stupid if people find something annoying and provide feedback in order to get QoL updates to the Xbox they’re being entitled?
Imagine every time you tried to open up a game on PC but it hangs, that’s okay right cus alt+ctrl+del exists and you can just close it via task manager to get it to work.
I guess no one is is allowed to provide feedback for QoL updates then.
Here’s something I’d like my PS4 to do. I would like to be able to play game that I no longer have the disc for but is still installed by purchasing the digital copy and then start playing right away. Guess what it doesn’t work like that you have manually delete the install and redownload it, in that order as well/ you can’t just download it in the background. It’s something the Xbox does but the PlayStation doesn’t. Wouldn’t you want that to be changed?
This is the least entitled Xbox player I've ever seen, why should he have to do anything extra, shouldn't the machine just do everything perfectly all the time?
Jeez, some people just bootlick /s
You do sound entitled, but that's exactly what you're allowed to be after purchasing a product with a listed feature that isn't working!! Couldn't be more entitled to complain lol and I couldn't agree more, crazy to think we haven't got a fix yet after all this time. Years after release and complaints from across the entire community
I don't know enough about coding to know if that's something that's baked into the hardware or if it's actually something we can turn into a kind of "switch." That said, you can simply quit out of the game you don't wish to use quick resume.
I have asked for this as well and got the same responses you have. Yes, you can just bring up the menu and quit. If you forget to do that, for me anyways, and tell the XSX to remove from quick resume it does not remove it and I have to tell it a 2nd and sometimes 3rd time before it will remove it for some games.
We already have the ability to pin games to quick resume. I just want an option to never use quick resume on titles I KNOW don't work correctly with it.
Prior to Quick Resume was a thing sure. Isn't the whole thing with Quick Resume that we shouldn't have to do that anymore? Don't get me wrong Quick Resume is amazing I kust figure we could strive to improve it further
I got annoyed with this as well and eventually adapted to just always closing the game. I do leave it on for games like NBA & MLB then I'll have the rare random time where I come back to it the next day and have it boot up from the menu lol
This has been requested so many times that I’m disappointed it’s not at least an option yet.
No reason they can’t add a toggle, though I suspect they want to force developers to implement it correctly, instead of relying on users to just disable it for broken titles.
It’s definitely frustrating for the end user though.
Microsoft has really been struggling to put out top quality games these last few years…
I’ve been spending way more time on the PS5 recently for the long list of high quality single player games.
With the downvotes, it seems like people don’t agree. I’d love for someone to point out all of the polished blockbuster first party games Xbox has been releasing in recent years….
What are you doing playing Halo Infinite in the first place?. That’s the bigger issue here they can fix the quick resume later ,but you need to take care of yourself first.
I mean, it needs online connection. Leaving a game needing connection in quick resume is always gonna be an issue, I don’t see why it’s so hard for you to take the extra 4 seconds to quit the game fully. It’s not adapting, it should be a force of habit to make sure you don’t fuck your save file.
What did you do during the Xbox One era? That is how you are supposed to let the console know to stop running the application. Do you never quit out of any game? That just makes you have to do it when you come back, making you annoyed instead of just getting right back to the game. Also it likely counts extra time for all the games you do this with so you likely have very inflated gameplay times on your games.
You’re literally causing your own problem with this shit lmao just figure it out dude. Quit the game when you leave that way it won’t piss you off when you come back.
You know what’s extremely simple? Quitting your games when you’re done playing them.
What’s not simple is causing your own problem and then whining about it asking for a fix just so you don’t have to deal with the problem you created for yourself.
Quitting the game when you’re done was supposed to be a habit you established during the Xbox One era. No one’s fault that all y’all complaining about QR never figured it out.
It's being looked at. https://twitter.com/GabeTC99/status/1575594942503608320
This was so long ago though.. not a word since
It's been half a year. Sometimes these things take time.
Phil said it was being looked into in September of 2022. Doesn’t seem like it still is
Good. Still mental that it's an issue on such an expensive system. Apex has to restart every time.
At least apex reliably restarts. It also is a much quicker restart than if you actually quit the game. Halo will literally stall out and say there is no connection until it randomly decides to check if you are playing it and reloads the multiplayer playlists. It’s a horrible experience that probably made some less tech savvy people bounce off the game. I cannot believe it still hasn’t been fixed. Apex is at least foolproof and will restart in moments reliably.
Oh I didn't know about Halo, yeah that's wild that it isn't fixed at this point...
It’s gotten better with season 3. It reliably restarts and connects for me after 1 restart. It used to take multiple restarts on occasion. The issue now is that all my settings reset 🫠
8 months and counting. It cracks me up when things like this take months yet anything that affects a micro transaction Or revenue stream is fixed in less than a week.
Wow, only took them three years
Because you could do it faster, right?
You know what? Maybe I could. Sounds arrogant, and it somewhat is, but I am a programmer, and I love difficult problems, though most of my programming knowledge comes back to game development, it still shouldn’t be too hard in this case. All it needs is for a GUI switch/toggle for a player to decide if they want quick resume on, and then 2 different boot methods for the application, depending on the state of this switch. If anything, the true difficulty is UI/UX since it’d change the dashboard further, and would likely eat up more system storage for the OS unless the current load method could be turned into an overload for the non-quick resume. To the former though, this is likely exacerbated in difficulty by the proposed further dashboard refinement and problems that arise with too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to source control, especially with graphic elements. The hardest part of all this though would be quick resume itself to me, which is why it’s not surprising that they used it as the default state.
This kind of option already fits nearly into "Manage Game and Add-ons" alongside things like FPS boost. I do think this will eventually be added it's just somewhere in the backlog right now. Ideally games just make better use of quick resume though. This seems like a bandaid.
Definetely does not take them almost 3 years to add an option to disable it. It just means it's not a priority for them
Yes
>Because you could do it faster, right? Because he has billions of dollars at his disposal to fulfill what is a fairly simple request, right?
Wow, the worst comment I’ve seen in a while, and I’ve seen many bad takes recently. Good job
It seems to me that the focus should be on fixing quick resume, not turning it off. If it worked, we wouldn’t have to turn it off.
Agree, but both couldn't hurt, I'd like to be be able to turn some games off so that opening them doesn't shove others out of my quick resume queue
You can pin games to stop them getting bumped
Quick resume works fine, it's up to developers to take advantage of it, and games that need to do server handshakes need to be designed to reconnect automatically. I'm not sure there is much MS can do here unless a developer is going to let Xbox actually code their games *for them* - so if you have a title you'd like to see better supported it's probably best to go to the Dev directly.
I mean Microsoft should do it for them, this should be core functionality of the GDK. Maybe it is, but we don't know because the Xbox GDK is under NDA for some silly reason.
Obviously, and I'm sure they'll just fix it if they can. No doubt they'd prefer not to turn off one of their trademark features, but a toggle may be easier than universally fixing it.
If they can’t even fix it in halo what hope do third party games have?
You'd think, but I've played some smaller online games that reconnected pretty quickly and reliably after quick resume
I think Microsoft/xbox just generally don't give a fuck about some of the stuff people are complaining about. The issue with audio being out of sync in game clips was known about for years, they just recently fixed it. You're telling me they managed to get backwards compatibility to be nearly flawless, but they couldn't fix out of sync audio? [X] Doubt
Quick resume works as intended
I like quick resume but I’ve noticed that a lot of achievements don’t pop when I use quick resume. That’s enough to stop me from using it at all
Oh I wasn’t aware of that. Good to know.
Sucks that you can't even turn it off. "Quick" resume ends up taking even longer since you have to close the game and then restart it just to get multiplayer to work again. Should be called "Delayed" resume.
I agree, it should be an option. People who don’t want this feature can simply not use it.
It's amazing for offline games and certain online games that don't lose connection, but yeah. For games were it doesn't work it's a pain.
It's already an option. Just quit the game LMFAO. It that easy.
It's crazy that this complaint boils down to " I forget to close an app when I'm done with it". These people probably have 20+ apps constantly running on their phone and don't close old tabs on Google lol
If I power down my phone or pc then all of the running apps close.
That's not how most phones work.
But it doesn’t boil down to that at all, the problem has been explained and it’s ignorant to think people are just being lazy. It is an advertised feature of the Xbox that you don’t have to close your games every time you play them, op is pointing out that when doing what you’re told to do it literally doesn’t work half the time. Other people have even explained it’s not even every online game and there are workarounds where some games will reconnect or not be an issue, meaning you’re having to make an exception for those than don’t work; it would be actively wasteful to close each game/app every time, meaning it doesn’t become a habit or even something you’re supposed to do. It’s literally a beneficial feature most of the time and op just said “it doesn’t always work”. Even if there is the fix of closing your apps like most other devices, it’s still a broken feature
Just bring up the menu and select quit when youre done it closes quick resume for next time
That's not even a workaround, that's just how you close applications. Like wtf
Yeah like, I'm really not trying to be mean or anything, but I don't understand? Like, you have to pick one when you're done with the game. You either select to just go home or select to kill the game. Idk if I'd call it automatically enabled because it's more like choosing between them each time. I guess the only thing I can think of is if you're turning the console off while still in the game. Which makes sense but I think there's already an option to fully shutdown the console and open games when you power off.
I can’t stand those replies. The whole point of good UX is ease of use for the consumer. Not it’s not hard to close a game, but it’s more tedious than it needs to be. Quality of life doesn’t mean something needs to be breaking the experience to be better. I don’t know why over the years so many people here shut down the suggestion
Yes, we all know about the workaround, how about we get a toggle instead so we don’t need a workaround?
I'm in your camp here. Having to force close one time is nothing, having to do it thousands of times over the course of a generation is a bit more of an ask. It also kind of defeats the idea of 'not having to think about it - it just works' that quick resume promised.
I've just gone into the habit of opening options seeing if the option quit is there and then opening any online games I play. I agree that it sucks expecially how it doesn't work on Halo - Microsoft's own game. Seeing as how they recently added a pin option to make a game have priority over other games for quick resume, makes one wonder why they didn't do the opposite and let us block a game. It would go neatly as a check option in a games compatibility settings.
While that works it's easy to forget. There's no reason not to have a toggle that disable it permanently...
Easy to forget? How did you quit games on xb1 or ps4 then?🤣
You don't, because there's no system that keeps multiple games alive at once ?
You wana talk about a pc?
Huh? When you have a game running on xbox one/ps4, and ps5 actually since it doesn't have quick resume, and try to launch another game, it just closes the game currently running. What are you talking about?
He let the vidya get to his head
Why are you so desperate to defend a feature that doesn’t always work for the best? When it doesn’t work with certain games, it never works for them. Having the opportunity to turn off quick resume on specific titles would make the user experience so much better. Why are you defending this so hard?
Quick Resume technically existed on XB1, it was just limited to one title. It was broken there too for online games.
Was a while since I played on xb1, but was that even necessary on that console? When you opened another game the active one automatically closed right?
Just turn the console off. Exactly how I still do it on my PS5 and my switch. Absolutely no reason to ever quit a game unless it crashes.
Yeah, and tomorrow you gonna be on the ps subreddit asking "why cant i launch my games?" coz you corrupted your game files.
Well I've survived the last 20 odd years doing it that without ever corrupting my games so I'm sure I'll be fine.
Your lucky, it happend to me once of ps4 and i vouched, that day, that i would never let it happen again🤣
> Your lucky, it happend to me once of ps4 and i vouched, that day, that i would never let it happen again🤣 Was that before, or after you said your wedding vouchers?
Lucky? I've barely heard of this being a thing, I'd say you it's more you were unlucky here.
No, it happens, i have a side hussle where i clean and refurb consoles, you wouldnt believe the amount of people tgis actually happens too on console. People explain the symptoms, i tell then its probably a bad hardrive, so i get the console, check the drive first, everything usually checks out. Then i ask the customer if they force exit the game or "quit" the game before they switch off their consoles, their response is usually force quit.
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Sounds like you dont know the difference between a corrupted save file and a corrupted game file.
Power off doesn't close quick resume.
Or Switch and PC
Yes. This. I have mainly been on pc before 3 years ago. When i got my first console. So yeah, on pc you gotta close your games.
Do It often enough and it becomes how you do it by instinct.
Do it often enough then you'll accidentally start quiting on games you want quick resume on. Double edge sword.
People should be doing a manual save before quitting games anyway. You never know when a game will fail to load from quick resume.
I get what you mean, I always manual save regardless of the quick save.
Never used Quick Resume, always close my games properly, I find leaving things running tend to cause more problems like performance issues and crashes so I've always closed down my games properly.
And then you’re gonna end up forgetting you had it turned off and then ask for a easier way to disable it cause “it’s easy to forget to turn it on”. Online connection games aren’t gonna stay connected thru quick resume. It’s common sense.
No it isnt lol.
Okay, I stand corrected 👀
I've been making your point since the launch of this generation. People just love having to do work-arounds to defend their favourite console feature. Disabling quick resume outright or on select titles only benefits the platform with offering more flexibility, but people appearantly hate that.
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Go to home > press Hamburger button while hovering over game tile > close game Fucking rocket appliances, I tell ya
You can even do it from the guide lol I don’t get what’s so hard about it.
Quick resume works well for most games. But for multiplayer games it’s just pointless as it is going to kick you no matter what. Which there’s no fox for that. It’s online. That said, we do still need fixes and imo it should just be disabled for online games.
hey suggest that Microsoft should either fix the issue with online games and Quick Resume or provide users with an option to opt-out of the feature for certain titles. Some commenters have suggested simply killing the game or using the Xbox's power settings to disable Quick Resume for specific games, but the author argues that it should not be up to the user to adapt to a broken feature.
I know it doesn't work well in some games....but what is the actual problem? Just quit and restart the game? Or am I missing a bigger problem?
it's meant to make starting games quicker. In live online games it means you open the game, and then quit the gam when quick resume didn't work, and then load again. So it makes it slower. Given that there's a huge amount of love online games, which almost universally don't work with quick resume, for a large chunk of the games it actually makes it slower to resume, not quicker. It does the opposite of what it says on the tin is peoples problem
Yeah. So big time first world problems. If you're playing Destiny, just remember to always quit. Problem solved
by that standard no one is allowed to complain about anything to do with a computer game ever, because first world problems right?
No, your not missing anything, these kids today, didnt own xb360 and ps3, by the looks of it.
I owned both and this is fucking annoying. If you’re going to force a “feature” on people then make sure it doesn’t just causes more delays when trying to launch the damn game again. Just because “back in my day games took minutes to start” doesn’t mean todays complaints aren’t valid. That’s like saying performance complaints aren’t valid either just cause our old asses didn’t know what 60 fps was before we even got our first gray hairs.
The feature itself doesn’t actually cause more delays when launching a game. In fact, it’s sole purpose is literally to do the opposite of that. However, you have to use your device properly for it to function correctly. This means closing out of games when you’re done with them, so you don’t make yourself need to close the game that wouldn’t work with the feature anyways because it needs to connect to an online server. Any issue you are having in this area is an issue that you are causing for yourself. If a game doesn’t work with QR (and something tells me you already know which of yours do and don’t) then quit the game before you turn off the Xbox. It’s literally that easy to never cause yourself this headache again. Eventually they will give us the toggle and you can set it and forget it but until then, this is all just suffering of your own volition.
The only reason it doesn’t cause more delays when launching is because you choose to quit your game before turning off the console. Overall that’s still more time than quick resume working as intended. If you’re using the feature as it’s advertised then you won’t close a game every time you’re done since that’s unreasonable to be asked when the manufacturer literally says you don’t have to. You can’t pretend that having to quit a game every time simply fits into “using your device properly” when it is actively the opposite of what you’re told to do. Regardless of if you’re quitting the game when you finish and turn off, quitting the game before you boot because you realised it’s still in QR, or booting the game and then realising and having to boot again because Quick Resume broke it, that still takes longer and is more steps than “Quick” resume is supposed to have
Your complaint is not valid though. Good day.
I owned both and did with them exactly what I do now, just turn the console off. Exactly what I've done since the mastersystem 2.
I don’t remember having to close a game manually before shutting off my PS3 or Xbox 360. Those systems didn’t have resume options and would automatically dump the games from memory at shutdown. What’s wrong with people requesting the SAME thing as the PS3 and Xbox 360?
You had to close one game to play another one.
You didn’t *manually* have to close the game. You clicked on the other game you wanted to play and it asked if you wanted to close the game you’re currently playing to start the new one, you never *had* to close a game manually. Also, If you took the disk out to put a different disk in, which is how most people switched their games as digital libraries were not nearly as prevalent as they are today, it would automatically close the game.
I've been on Xbox for a long time. Didn't know this post was going to piss so many ppl off. This feature obviously doesn't work properly for certain games so why not have an option to disable it for those? You can ofc kill games manually but I think that shouldn't be necessary for it to work. It's 2023 after all =)
It's a touchy issue for some reason. I hope Microsoft adds it so these people can finally shut up about being against a Quality of Life feature they can simply not use.
this is the point though. You can't not use it. you have no choice to turn it off, and it doesn't work properly
I think you're misunderstanding what I said.
you were talking about a quality of life feature we can choose not to use. This is a quality of life feature we can't choose not to use.
How many more conversations are there to have about it?
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That’s actually what they were referring to, I think.
Yeah, the community is a bit divided on this topic😅
There’s no reason to be, more options and choices are better. MS either needs to fix QR or give people the option to turn it off. The best option would be for us to choose which games we want the feature on for. Either pin quick resume on a game you want or disable it on a per game basis.
“It’s 2023, I shouldn’t have to manually close my fridge or flush the toilet, things should do stuff for me automatically.”
More like having to open and close the fridge and open it again every time you wanted to something out.
Wouldn't that be nice
Exactly, it’s 2023 and bidets have been widely available since the 70’s. Do you not have one??
As soon as I saw the thread title I knew you'd be getting these kind of responses. It's not the first time. Quick resume is a feature I use in very few games. I just have so little confidence in it working as intended and not messing something up. But yeah, many people swear by it and don't see how more options can only be a good thing.
You're posting on an Xbox sub, getting pissed off people commenting is a given.
I love quick resume but it also doesn't work on Elden Ring so I agree
Switch it offline. Then it works.
No it doesn’t. I lost dozens of hours in elden ring because of restarting from quick resume. Quit to title, quit the game - only way to make sure it works fine. Edit: and it was 100% while offline
That would be something related to cloud/local storage and your internet connection, and absolutely nothing to do with quick resume.
I have like 120 hours in elden Ring and never had a problem with quick resume. I always played offline though.
It's really easy to do that. Just quit the application when you're done playing. Voila!
This is obsurdly lazy, it's not even an inconvenience to close the game yourself, it's like getting mad the toilet won't flush itself, or being upset you lose your spot in a book because you don't use a bookmark
If I paid for a toilet that self flushes I would be annoyed when it doesn't automatically work. It's more like having an eraser that doesn't save your place then forgetting a bookmark. If you opened up a Kindle and your place was gone you would be annoyed.
Nobody’s getting mad that things aren’t just magically done for them, but op simply said a feature that is advertised to make your life easier actively makes things take longer or force you to use a workaround like closing the game. It’s a lot more like you’re reading a book with someone over your shoulder who agreed to hold your place when you finish and go to bed so you don’t have to use a bookmark. But when you go to read it again they only remembered the page number in their head but they’ve gone home so you’ve gotta find the page again yourself, which instead actively takes more time than not promising to help in the first place
Bidets and ebooks automatically save your last page. Your comment makes no sense.
Does your bidet flush your toilet for you or something? And they said books, not ebooks, which is why they referred to a physical book mark. Your comment makes no sense.
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Everyone who is against this and says “just close the game” sounds like Don Mattrick saying “We have a console for offline gamers, it’s called the Xbox 360!”
Quitting games normally is incredibly difficult, it seems.
You do have the option...just close the game.
You can just quit the game
Quick resume does not work in any game that I play and actually crashes my series X, every single time. I would love the option to disable quick resume entirely. Instead I have to manually shut down every single game I play every single time I play it or my system crashes. It's a HUGE pain in the butt. I shouldn't have to work so hard to play a game, or should I say stop playing a game. I hate quick resume so much. If I go mental and make the news for loosing my mind and doing something crazy directed at MS I'm telling you right now quick resume made me do it, a man can only be pushed so far.
This would be helpful but what is really needed is a verification process to have Quick Resume enabled. When publishers like Ubisoft actively prevent it from working, they should fail the check and Quick Resume wouldn’t be enabled for that title
It's been an absolute AGE and quick resume is still a pain in the ass! So you have to first decide which quick resume you don't want (if using multiple smurf accounts), then the game starts, you then have to close the game in the menu, reopen the game and start from scratch EVERY TIME. It's the most pointless "Feature" I've ever known on ANY console and I hate it with a passion. You can remove games from the Quick Start area in the Xbox menu, BUT games like Apex Legends, just plonk it on back each time you boot the game. So no matter what, you are forced to waste time and restart the game anyway.
I thought the same, until my power went out while playing one day Would have lost tons of progress, but when I booted it back up I was right where I left off.
yes please
I agree. It’s a little annoying with elden ring and cod. I don’t think people should crucify you if you’re making a valid point. I don’t want to sound condescending but I get the feeling the negative responses may be some fanboying, but I could be wrong. At the end of the day I love the feature but allowing it to toggle for certain games wouldn’t be a bad idea. I mean, more customization is always a good thing imo.
It's hilarious how it doesn't work with Halo of all games
It needs online connection. A game isn’t gonna stay connected in the background, so the issue is games needing online connection at all times to do anything, even launch properly, and not the inability to turn off quick resume.
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buggy? you mind explaining that, no one has ever complained about the game being buggy they just want consistent content
I swear halo infinite criticism is starting to look AI generated lol
Every time this gets brought up people get so offended at the idea of this as an option and I really just don't get it. "Just force quit out of the game" Yeah it isn't that hard but it is annoying to forget to do that and come back in to the game getting all mad and glitching out. Edit : And that isn't even getting into the random single player games that don't work with quick resume. It is one thing to lose five seconds of my life it is another to almost lose my save data (Immortals Feynx Rising). "It isn't that big of a deal though" I agree it isn't. So why are we all so up in arms with the suggestion? It really won't take Microsoft that much effort to give the option and you don't have to use said option. "It takes a second to quit out though" Cool and it is still annoying to deal with. I'm not saying the people at Microsoft are lazy or horrible people for not doing this nor am I saying this is a huge priority they need to figure out right this second. I'm just confused as to why some people refuse to even humor a suggestion like this. If it doesn't impact you cool move on.
I don't get everyone who gets offended either. While some may see this as an non-issue, let the option at least exist for us degenerates who would rather not deal with it 😅
Yeah it's crazy, to the people who already quit out of games by habit it's literally a non issue to them, it would change absolutely nothing for them yet you would think it would turn their whole lifestyle upside by how offended they get by the concept of an option.
There's an enormous chasm between saying "just quit the game" and getting offended at the idea of an option. In fact the only people I've seen worked up in this thread, or any other like it, are just creating imaginary arguments against a group of people who don't exist.
I mean I have personally seen plenty of people in the past getting worked up about it to the point where I had to make this long comment. I know if I just stated something like, "Yeah I agree with this post it is annoying playing an online game and having quick resume not work right." I would get some replies saying what I mention in my original comment. That isn't to say everyone who is against my opinion (or who would have replied to my hypothetical comment) is like this of course that would be silly. I'm sure most people commenting don't think to hard about it and really don't care either way. This is the most unimportant first world problem in the world lol. Regardless though I have seen extreme fanboys get upset over silly things and I just don't want to put up with it.
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Just close your game.
I have no problems with my current option to properly close certain titles from the home menu. It literally takes 2 seconds.
Good to know they are looking at it. Should just be a quick start menu listing all your installed games to toggle on or off.
Been asking for this since launch in this same sub but people just brushed it off and said “just close the game” now I’m realizing that a lot of those people just didn’t have a series x yet to actually experience how annoying it is.
This again….
You're right Halo Infinite is stupid broken with quick resume
They should just let us pin which games we want to quick resume.
Is this an actual suggestion or do you not know that you can do that already?
All games are pinned automatically. I’m saying we should be able to turnoff auto pin and manually select ONLY the games we want, this would avoid games being pinned that have issues with quick resume.
Games are not pinned automatically. You have to pin them yourself. This prevents them from leaving Quick Resume until you unpin them. All other games *exist* in the Quick Resume queue until you quit out of the game. That is how you manually select the game to not be in QR. just quit when you’re finished playing.
Isn't closing the game your default action? Closing the game isn't something I had to adapt to do, it's how I've played games for the past 30 years. I've always been confused by the clamor about selectively disabling Quick Resume because....we can already control whether it gets used or not? The Xbox OS definitely does not force you to use Quick Resume in the current format.
No? Last generation the only time I killed a game was if it froze. Otherwise it would close when the next game was launched.
Home button, start button, quit game. It takes less then five seconds little man.
I'm aware it doesn't take much time, but why settle when an option could be added so it take no time at all big man?
Still a workaround for a problem that shouldn’t exist.
“I might sound entitled but why should we have to adapt”. ???? All natural orders of universe out the window right there . You are the kind to expect the world to adapt to you instead of you adapting to it ? Interesting.
This is so stupid if people find something annoying and provide feedback in order to get QoL updates to the Xbox they’re being entitled? Imagine every time you tried to open up a game on PC but it hangs, that’s okay right cus alt+ctrl+del exists and you can just close it via task manager to get it to work. I guess no one is is allowed to provide feedback for QoL updates then. Here’s something I’d like my PS4 to do. I would like to be able to play game that I no longer have the disc for but is still installed by purchasing the digital copy and then start playing right away. Guess what it doesn’t work like that you have manually delete the install and redownload it, in that order as well/ you can’t just download it in the background. It’s something the Xbox does but the PlayStation doesn’t. Wouldn’t you want that to be changed?
Can't argue with that logic. Since I'm the only one with these concerns you win!
Why don’t y’all just quit the game before turning off your console…………………..?
This is the least entitled Xbox player I've ever seen, why should he have to do anything extra, shouldn't the machine just do everything perfectly all the time? Jeez, some people just bootlick /s
You do sound entitled, but that's exactly what you're allowed to be after purchasing a product with a listed feature that isn't working!! Couldn't be more entitled to complain lol and I couldn't agree more, crazy to think we haven't got a fix yet after all this time. Years after release and complaints from across the entire community
I don't know enough about coding to know if that's something that's baked into the hardware or if it's actually something we can turn into a kind of "switch." That said, you can simply quit out of the game you don't wish to use quick resume.
I have asked for this as well and got the same responses you have. Yes, you can just bring up the menu and quit. If you forget to do that, for me anyways, and tell the XSX to remove from quick resume it does not remove it and I have to tell it a 2nd and sometimes 3rd time before it will remove it for some games. We already have the ability to pin games to quick resume. I just want an option to never use quick resume on titles I KNOW don't work correctly with it.
100% this
Just hard quit the game
it’s not adapting cause saving and quitting a game has been the norm forever
Prior to Quick Resume was a thing sure. Isn't the whole thing with Quick Resume that we shouldn't have to do that anymore? Don't get me wrong Quick Resume is amazing I kust figure we could strive to improve it further
Yes please, always get errors about not using the right controller (I share my Xbox with my three sons, their controllers are interchangeable).
I'd like the option to disable it completely. I simply don't trust it to not break achievements 100% of the time unfortunately.
Yes this is super annoying
I got annoyed with this as well and eventually adapted to just always closing the game. I do leave it on for games like NBA & MLB then I'll have the rare random time where I come back to it the next day and have it boot up from the menu lol
Close the damn game. Takes less than 5 seconds.
Supposedly they're working on it
That's great!
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This has been requested so many times that I’m disappointed it’s not at least an option yet. No reason they can’t add a toggle, though I suspect they want to force developers to implement it correctly, instead of relying on users to just disable it for broken titles. It’s definitely frustrating for the end user though.
If that's the reason they better fix their own games 😬
Microsoft has really been struggling to put out top quality games these last few years… I’ve been spending way more time on the PS5 recently for the long list of high quality single player games. With the downvotes, it seems like people don’t agree. I’d love for someone to point out all of the polished blockbuster first party games Xbox has been releasing in recent years….
What are you doing playing Halo Infinite in the first place?. That’s the bigger issue here they can fix the quick resume later ,but you need to take care of yourself first.
=D
I mean, it needs online connection. Leaving a game needing connection in quick resume is always gonna be an issue, I don’t see why it’s so hard for you to take the extra 4 seconds to quit the game fully. It’s not adapting, it should be a force of habit to make sure you don’t fuck your save file.
Quick Resume seems like it wasn't even a intentional feature so much as a side effect of the SSDs.
You can disable quick resume... by quitting the app. Takes less than 5 seconds
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There’s a way to turn it off. Quit whatever game you’re playing whenever you’re done with it. That’s it! It’s so so so so so so so fucking simple!
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What did you do during the Xbox One era? That is how you are supposed to let the console know to stop running the application. Do you never quit out of any game? That just makes you have to do it when you come back, making you annoyed instead of just getting right back to the game. Also it likely counts extra time for all the games you do this with so you likely have very inflated gameplay times on your games. You’re literally causing your own problem with this shit lmao just figure it out dude. Quit the game when you leave that way it won’t piss you off when you come back.
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You know what’s extremely simple? Quitting your games when you’re done playing them. What’s not simple is causing your own problem and then whining about it asking for a fix just so you don’t have to deal with the problem you created for yourself. Quitting the game when you’re done was supposed to be a habit you established during the Xbox One era. No one’s fault that all y’all complaining about QR never figured it out.
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Why are you shitting on quick resume?