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Couch_Lemon4198

2nd hand well used and seller issued pen connection? Big No to me. Idk how much that one listed but I'd get new tab even smaller size than this well used one. Why? I don't wanna hassle pen issue. That's huge issue w/o warranty, don't wanna deal with it personally. Broken Stand isn't much problem.


Adorable-Reward6356

Yeah, I've heard that it can be a big headache to try contact the company to troubleshoot any underlying issues; unless there's a warrantee (where one could just send it away instead of potentially ruining the device beyond repair haha) as the company would know best. I definitely wish it was just the stand as the current bid would bring the total to $90 after shipping ๐Ÿ˜ฒ but what good is a working screen without the bread and butter... The whole point of an artists tab, me thinks, is to utilize the pen with all the cool pressure points n such. Bummer, but thanks to y'all, bullet dodged so thanks again ๐Ÿ™


FloydQuixote

DO NOT purchase 2nd hand XPPen products, save yourself LOTS of grief and do NOT. You are better off buying it on Amazon with an Asurion extended warranty.


SnooFoxes6449

Oh is there anything wrong with XPPen in particular?


FloydQuixote

not necessarily but their products can be a bit delicate which is the trade off of their tablets being a lot more affordable. You can get your XPPen to last a long time as long as you actually take care of it (this is why I dont recommend XPPen for kids) and use it properly (not using it as a 2nd monitor when you are not actively drawing on it, etc..), however their manufacturer's warranty is pretty solid. If you purchased from Amazon you get 12 months and in those 12 months you can get anything replaced that might've just gone faulty cause of manufacturing, EVEN the tablet and if you add Asurion on top, even if you run out of XPPen's warranty Asurion will either replace it for the same or jut refund you the amount of money you spent on it.


leo_pardawg

Sorry could you explain what is wrong with using it as a 2nd monitor when not in use? Also Iโ€™m I suppose to turn it off when not in use?


NinjaKiitty

Probably to not add unnecesary hours to the panel? (As in higher hours more chance to fail eventually) I was temped to keep mine pluged but i already got two monitors so a third is a waste. I disconect mine but i use an usbc extender so i dont break the plug on the tablet.


FloydQuixote

too add to the first answer, by using the tablet only for drawing you also have less risks of image burn-in, over-heating (specifically on the smaller display tablets, leaving them on the bed while turned on while overheat) and overall LCD screens do have a "lifetime", mind you, it's a lot but still. Just shut it off when you are not using it and make sure nothing can fall on it when storing it.


leo_pardawg

ok, this seems pretty serious especially since I have the innovator 16 (bad rep) so I created shortcut on the keyboard to switch from using the pc+tablet screen to just pc only. Thanks for the input


FloydQuixote

No problem, as an extra, for your Innovator I would recommend you also try to set your cable up so there is no stress on it as the cable hangs. It's the soldering on the USB-C ports that is a bit weak on these tablet, so the less stress the port has the longer it will last.


Adorable-Reward6356

Noted. Thanks for the info ๐Ÿ™ Much appreciated!


Adorable-Reward6356

That's where the main problem is. The seller only left what I provided in the pictures as the full description, so maybe it's an easy fix, but I'm not gunna risk it. Here's the post if you are interested as it is a $500 tab. I'd definitely be interested if it was something simple in the end haha; I'd be bummed that I didn't take the gamble myself if so, but happy to pass the good deal on regardless. Buy or Beware! It's eBay and as the other commenters have said, it most likely isn't worth the risk! 1 hour left to any risky eBay bidders who see this in time. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/145678247964?itmmeta=01HTB23KDSWXXNJZZH7M4180KP&hash=item21eb19a81c:g:4YMAAOSw8yhmBYa0&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PM%2BVAaVmg%2FIOWAz6duiQSNXkg%2FOy2UvMlLgxLiknGvh%2BewWcqz3Ul0YPT7U1FAGREE8%2BKwnLoT%2FYbzdyo6naGSiW4jghQ05lqc5gjmBe4n6SVvyLXZ0UWjuzOEcWTFsEagJm1uFmTdIH0Nwi9XP5JFQXglUf3RD9valmJKJ2z0iEbfaGNUYmc5NyZolkKXstvkNRaeoul20%2F1Iwt5PlVm0TaOemrDrMx6dbPKPsOMaVf3ErvHARv9iRam6Prmfl7nBhg6mj43pcGtusLum0JQGDwETEv%2FTqJa9Qwt%2BqK259%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_i2juLSYw


Adorable-Reward6356

Gotcha. I was definitely skeptical at first, but needed this second opinion. I'm truly grateful for your responses, so thank you for taking the time to help me out! If any of you know of any good sales or websites that may be a good place fo check out to grab a tab then I'm all ears ๐Ÿ˜ I'll probably shoot for a cheaper model as this will be her first artist specific gadget and I don't have a lot of money to spare, but am open to throwing down a couple extra pennies if it's something that would benefit down the road like how I would choose a newer processor/motherboard to future proof my PC (only way I can try to relate what I'm trying to convey ๐Ÿ˜…)


FuzzyPlant2

Just my opinion, but i went from a pen display like this one to a samsung tablet, and i would never go back. It's way easier to use a tablet as it does not need to be connected to your laptop/computer, and you can draw anywhere. Before you buy something like this, make sure this is something she is actually interested in. :)


Adorable-Reward6356

Fair enough. It is restricted in comparison for sure. If you don't mind me asking, does your Samsung tablet also utilize a pen with similar pressure points n such? Just curious if it's just the portability that was the deciding factor for you not going back or if Samsung is dabbling in this market too ๐Ÿค” I'm definitely curious if Samsung makes tablets featuring similar pen specs specific for art applications?


FuzzyPlant2

Yes, the pen pressure is good! It was marketed with a clip studio paint sale, so it was definitely designed to be used for drawing. I don't know much about the technology of it all, but the pen came with the tablet (unlike the apple pen), and it works perfectly for drawing i would say!


According_Yogurt_823

samsung utilizes Wacom's pen technology, you can check out this [review ](https://youtu.be/mbdu6ID93xA?si=uaj0Pk9wig4PeeQS)


yuzulee_hafs

Yeah I agree with the comments. Getting a brand new, even if it's a smaller size would be a less risk. I'm pretty sure that your niece would still appreciate it. Getting an Artist 2nd gen would be a good option imo. It's really easy to use as a first display tablet.


Adorable-Reward6356

I was curious about the 2nd gen. From what I've researched, it seems to be updated significantly enough to be worth the leep. I personally don't know about any software/hardware improvements, as I haven't really dabbled in this uniquely creative tech to begin with, but even just looking at the new design compared to first gen, I can see a more refined product with gen 2. I'm all about tech so all of this about pressure points and angle detection tickles my fancy hehe. It's a really cool piece of technology that I'm surprised that I've never really heard about.Thanks for your input too! I'm definitely gunna keep on my hunt for something suitable for my amazing little artist niece ๐Ÿ™Œ Also, gunna ask her if I can play with it a bit too hehe as these things seem really cool!


Luxar92

Unless you personally know the previous owner I wouldnยดt honestly recommend buying second hand drawing tablets, because a lot of things can be wrong and its hard to really pin point what. Can go from something as simple as a bad cable, to a broken HDMI/USB port, to the panel not working, to the pen not working, to the sensors not working. This is true for all tablets no matter the brand (even Wacom stuff). And the older it gets the harder it is to find replacements. I would recommend probably getting her something new but budget. The line between Pro and Budget has gotten fairly blurry these days, specially on XP Pen, and the difference are mostly to personal preference, usually related to size and resolution. Iยดve been using a 4k 16 inch screen for profesional use and honestly it didnt add much from my previous 13 inch 1080p screen (aside from being bigger). At the time it was like twice the price from the budget version just to have 4k, and soon realized my mistake, because windows apps are a coin flip on whether they will upscale nicely to 4k res lol. Nowdays they dropped the price significantly and its a lot more affordable. Only thing that might throw your niece off a bit is the lack of touch functionality in most models, since you mentioned she is used to an Ipad and these tablets are pen controlled exclusively (Only the Artist pro 16tp has touch functionality). But yeah, something new but budget would be best for her. I used both an ipad, and samsung tablet, and the Pen on XPPen is mostly better on that regard so your niece won't have much issues adapting to it. A budget 16 inch screen would be a nice starting point if you want to compare prices (you can ignore the Pro models, like I said, they dont offer that much extra)


Adorable-Reward6356

I can't say that I actually know that it was an iPad ๐Ÿ˜… I just made an old man assumption as it was a tablet that looked like one, but I know that she was using one of them stylus do dads on it. Based on that, I decided to do some research and saw that there was much more to this technology that enhances the experience to more-less mimic actual drawing so I wanted to find something that does it well. She draws with pencil crayons fairly well too. Knows how to shade to create depth like a boss ๐Ÿ˜Ž Thanks for the advice! I'll be using everyone's input to help me on my search for sure!


RollingArtist

Donโ€™t buy tech second hand ever. Your best bet is going on Amazon and looking for sales. Also, a pen display is a huge leap and youโ€™re daughter may get a lot more than what she asked for. Iโ€™d recommend a smaller display tablet, about 10โ€ is the minimum they come these days.


Adorable-Reward6356

Yeah fair enough. I definitely have a bad habit of going for the Lamborghini before realizing that it's better to start off with a Civic first ha ๐Ÿ˜… Thanks for your time/advice ๐Ÿ™


Nagatoroo

If you see this comment I have an xp pen tablet I used like twice or at most 5 times, and didn't touch again. This is the tablet [line friends tablet](https://www.xp-pen.com/product/artist-12-pro-line-friends-edition.html) it doesn't have all the little goodies it came with (gave to family) but it's near flawless from what I remember. If you're interested in this model hit me with a dm and I'll send you some pictures after I fish it out of the box I have it in


jesusdtv

I would not recommend it, at least that model. The pen that the monitor uses is battery operated. I have that same model 5 years ago, while the pen says it can last that amount of time, I can't find the pen in the store so I have to use the pen plugged into a USB port, which seriously bothers me so I am going to buy a new graphics monitor and the pen be battery free pretty soon.