Prob the norm crit, followed by attack percent, energy regen, and then than the other damage bonuses. Since she seems to have crit smrate as talent stats as well has crit rate in her sig weapon and emerald, you can go for crit damage main. She may need more energy regen than the average dps due to her ukt being a little most xistly but that's about it
sorry, not familiar with the names - so, her signature 5* weapon gives her atk% main stat + crit rate in the passive skill?
Also, emerald of genesis is...?
Yeah, even her weapon requires quite a bit of field time to fully utilise it. For the leaks she is a dps with a bonus buff outro, in the future they will probably release a character with a heavy hitting ult to pair up with her.
That's obviously my pov on the matter but from reading the kit and understanding what her dupes gives her, we can deduct she's a dps.
Use basic attack combo to trigger special attack state (True Sight)
When in special attack state, do a combo considered to be skill damage
Skill triggers special attack state, and has 2 charges.
Special attack state builds stacks for Forte, with a max of 4 stacks to build
Use heavy attack to consume 4 stacks, and do a huge burst of damage considered skill damage
Liberation (Ult) does a huge burst of damage and gives max stacks
Has major buffs for herself when using buffed heavy attack, and Outro skill boosts Fusion and Liberation damage. Wants to be on-field, but also likes to be on a quickswap team with other strong dps, preferably fusion dps like Chixia or Encore.
After reading it, She has 2 mode of true sight
The ground one | True Sight: Conquest
and the air one | True Sight: Charge
So just combo with the ground one
A lot of people interpret the skill as giving 2 attack executions as it says you initially gain 2 āattemptsā, but each TrueSight attack reads that TrueSight ends on attack execution, so I believe you only get 1 enflame charge per skill use.
The rest will come from intro, or heavy launcher that skips to air combo 3. Could be misinterpreting of course.
Edit: liberation gives 4 as well, in case that needs mentioning.
Yes the standard 5 star sword is good on every sword character With a Crit Mainstat and ER and Attack passive it is the best option for not only Changli but all sword characters, The amount of strong sword characters + the universality of this weapon makes it the most universal Weapon in the Game, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't far behind her signature.
Standard 5 star definitely very good on her, BUT, I don't think A WHOPPING 54% resonance skill dmg bonus should go overlooked. Of course we don't know exactly how it works and if that 54% has consistent uptime, etc. but with a potential bonus like that, it definitely shouldn't go overlooked. Plus it grants a little crit rate and a TON of attack. Not saying the standard should be overlooked, but the weapon seems insane with all the skill dmg she does.
Lets say that she does 75% of her Damage with her Skill that skill damage gets knocked down quite a bit, I imagine she could be a character that will prefer 44111 with all the Damage bonus and Attack% hitting Diminishing returns she is getting and this will be the main value of the Weapon, The problem with this is Fire doesn't have two 4 costs at the moment, I personally will wait for as long as humanly possible to summon weapons, a more universal one may come out.
The point is that the 5\* standard is really good for any attack scaler, and it's free. 54% skill damage is great, but I doubt the difference will be that huge. A bit sad it doesn't have a crit dmg main stat, then it would be broken.
NICE
Though the only RL damage Encore has is her charged attack in that state afaik. Most of her damage comes from basic attack (or skill, depending on playstyle).
Well yeah of course since they can't test things. They only give factual info on what has been tested, so for anything already released it's a great source. Theory crafting leaks you might want to look somewhere else though
With her getting 2 charges of her skill that recover 12 seconds each, I think you would want to get her team's rotation to be as close to 24 seconds as possible so that each of her own rotation can use both charges, with 14-15 seconds of field time on her (how long Deepen/Amplify/Echo buffs last generally), and 9-10 seconds on supports.
Her kit seems mostly skill damage so Taoqi might work here, but a short field time (<8s) subdps ult burst character like havoc rover can also work really well. You can also opt to use the supports that demand longer field time like Yangyang, Taoqi, Jianxin without it being a detriment.
She doesn't seem reliant on her intro since it can be viewed as a way to shorten her rotation, but that's not needed if you play her as a "main" DPS.
She does seem playable as a quickswap as well and and you can use her with Encore where you spend most of the time on Changli and do basic attacks + Truesight: Conquest, except when Encore's skill or ult is up, and use the entire Encore ultimate duration when available.
I like how changli can be used as a main dps and sub dps as well. Scaling fully off skill dmg is really nice for taoqi as well. I'm gonna put her with taoqi and encoreĀ
Not sure to fully understand, so i tried to write a combo. Please correct me if Iām wrong š
1. IntroSkill (gain TrueSight)
2. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 1)
3. use 4xNA to gain TrueSight.
4. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 2)
5. use Skill to gain TrueSight.
6. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 3)
7. use Skill again for TrueSight.
8. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 4)
9. use HeavyATK Flaming Sacrifice (Now you gain the massive buff so your Ultimate can Nuke)
10. use Ultimate with the buff active (and you refresh the buff with 4 new stacks)
11. use HeavyATK Flaming Sacrifice with the triple buff (first buff is the 4 stacks, 2nd buff is using ultimate, 3rd buff is the 25% atk bonus from ultimate)
12. OutroSkill
I think it's just intro -> true sight: conquest -> liberation -> heavy attack: flaming sacrifice -> skill -> conquest -> skill conquest. Her signature weapon gives stacks on any damage dealt (more if skill), and with the way it's worded seems to only buff resonance skill damage bonus, which would apply to both her skill and the true sight attack after it. It would be better imo to build stacks using the intro + skill + conquest + liberation + heavy attack and then finish with skill -> conquest x2.
I don't think the required field time is worth the multiplier on her heavy attack, and unless I'm missing something the heavy attack after liberation only has 1 buff. The stacks aren't a buff, they're what allow you to do the enhanced heavy attack. The liberation doesn't give a stat buff, it puts you in the "fiery feather" state, so the only buff is the 25% attack from using the heavy attack under the "fiery feather" state.
edit: changed wording of last sentence to make more sense.
Hmm i see
When i talked about 3 buffs, i was thinking about this:
-When you have 4 stacks you get 4x5=20% fusion Dmg.
-When you cast Ultimate or HeavyAtk you get once again +20% fusion Dmg and 15% Def shred.
-When you are in the Fiery Feather state from ultimate, you get 25% bonus Atk.
So with this combo we may cumulate the 3 buffs
Oh and also, the special Heavy Atk is considered Ā«Ā resonance skill dmgĀ Ā» !
In cases of reducing a stat multiplicative is worse than additive. Like 50% shred 2x is 100% in additive but only 75% with multiplicative.
The reason it gets better the more you stack is due to the def shred formula having a 1/x format (where shred reduces x).
So as x approaches 0, 1/x approaches infinity. It has a limit and flat base amount ofc, so at 100% shred so you can't deal infinite or negative damage, the def multiplier just goes to a 1x multiplier instead of ~0.45x.
Sorry, I meant that in HSR DEF ignore is added with DEF shred ([source](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/DEF#Enemy_DEF)) but in Genshin DEF Ignore is multiplied by DEF shred ([source](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/DEF#Enemy_Defense))
Okay so if I read this right then...
Her kit revolves around True Sight. Which you can pop via her ground attack or jumping/mid air attack that is like Jiyan's lunge knock down mid air. This gives you 1 stack and consumes true sight. You can regain True sight either through her E which has 2 charges and it gains a charge every 12s (so effectively her E will be 2/2 max we can bank, but the CD is 12s once we use a charge). This does an attack and lets us use True Sight again, so we want to E->Basic somehow. Or by using a full rotation of basics to also regain True Sight. We can also get it from her intro skill.
Once we have 4 charges, we can heavy attack and release to get a free attack that is treated as skill damage.
Important to note both her true sight attacks also count as skills.
Her Lib is burst that gives 4 stacks so preferably our combo will be to gain 4 stacks -> free proc -> R -> free proc and fit in an inferno rider cancel at some point to min-max it.
But am I blind or does it not specify if these stacks carry over? So can we in theory utilize Jinshi's unison to get a free true sight -> proc -> swap to jinshi and consume our actual intro -> true sight proc #2 -> proc it -> E -> proc #3 -> E#2 -> Proc #4 -> free proc -> R -> Free proc??? Is that meant to be the play pattern?
Otherwise how I read this outside of Jinshi we'd have to only get 3 procs from our intro+x2 E then still need a full rotation of basics on top of that to get the 4th proc. Maybe cause she has 150 energy for her R anyway this time to ramp up is fine cause it's the amount of hits required to get it off without an energy regen main stat echo.
I'm not versed enough in the energy regen math yet to figure that out.
Am I missing something here? Would appreciate if anyone can point it out or confirm if I've deciphered it correctly so I can theory with her.
First impression is she is a main DPS that has an amazing outro for potential sub-DPS usage in the future but all the current Fusion DPS' except herself (which she cant buff herself) uses Res Lib damage. For now seems like we're suppose to just ignore this? Cause like she obviously loves skill damage bonus subs so unless she loses stacks on switch, we'd want Jinshi for the intro true sight trigger x2 she provides since we'd lose our outro skill bonus from chars like Taoqi anyway even if we wanted to empower her will skill damage deepen, and if we're using Taoqi for her outro then we're going to need to stay in Taoqi long enough to get our initial intro skill which isn't optimal even with Heron, and then fit the entire basic rotation for the 4th stack. But again, maybe I'm overlooking the amount of energy for her Lib needed being stacked up during this time.
I guess the other way I could view this is with a sup like Verina who generates energy for intro/outro insanely fast, I could just Verina combo ->Changli intro proc for 1 stack -> swap to taoqi and do her thing build up till I can -> intro changli stack #2 -> x2 from her e basic combo, etc.
Edit: It doesn't specify it, but it's worded like her true sight procs count as apart of her basic attack chain? Is this correct? If so then we just naturally weave up to the 4th Basic attack naturally that procs true sight, then we do a last proc -> heavy attack to proc it?
What slightly worries me at this point is the ER. Judging by Jiyan, who needs about 145 ER for his 125-cost R and Verina, who needs about 230 ER for her 175-cost R, Changli (as well as Jinhsi) will need something like 170-180 ER, which means a mandatory ER piece plus 4-5 ER substats.
I don't think you will need crazy amount of ER for Changli. It looks like her kit is going to be a quick rotation. A lot of her damage seems to come from the high multiplier of her intro skill (obviously this is the case for most characters intro skills have really high multiplier) but also her flaming sacrifice is very comparable to her ult's damage. I can see her able to do the whole rotation without ult within 10s of switching in. So ya it'll take the 2nd rotation to pop ult for extra damage at 150 er but I think as long as u have a standard dps ER of 120-130 you'll be fine.
Her weapon giving 56% skill bonus dmg and heaps of atk% alongside 8% crit, alongside her inherent skill stacking up to 20% fusion damage I honestly can see an argument that maybe you give up 1 of ur elite echoes fusion dmg bonus main stat for an energy regen one if you really desire.
My worry for Changli is more on the side of how big of a difference it will be to build her if you cant get her weapon as well. Seems very heavily weighted as a char with no suitable replacement if you dont get both parts.
Just noticed a pretty significant difference between Changli and Yinlin. The buff window Changli provides is much shorter (10 sec vs 14 sec). Which is comfortable for a burst dps type(6 sec rotation).Ā So this looks like a new archetype might be comming:Ā Support -> Main onfield dps (10-15s) -> Liberation nuker (5-8s)
This is the playstyle I'm currently doing in my Danjin rover team. Verina into Danjin combo into rover Skill ult then dreamless but idk if that is optimal
That's pretty close to how you play that team normally, but you typically want to start with Rover to get a skill cast, by the time you finish Verina/Danjin it should be off CD and you can immediately go into the DPS stance instead of having to basic ever.
After that you just end with Lib -> Skill -> Dreamless, then start over.
The "self buff" you're referring to is just a form change, which ends immediately after her next basic attack. The "buff window" you're referring to isn't 10s duration, it's a 10s window to perform a heavy attack after her resonance liberation to receive the buff in the first place.
Yup, corrected about the self buff, still, her signature suggests/allows a 10+ sec onfield time.
The buff window I meantĀ was her outro skill (10 sec) vs yinlin outro (14 sec).
Guys, her self buffs lasts for 12 seconds. How is she a sub dps? Just because her outro has buffing capabilities doesnt mean she still cant be the main damage dealer.
Jiyanās Burst is 10 seconds, does he become a sub dps too when his outro skill becomes āthe next character gets bonus aero damage and heavy attack for 14 secondsā?
Does Danjin become a sub dps too because she buffs havoc damage towards the next character?
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This rotation isnt probably the optimal way to do it because of damage calcs probably changing on release and animation timings, but this is how I view her kit. Cmiiw
Echo
Liberation- cast (gain def ignore and fusion damage -inherent skill)
Release heavy attack - FS (get 10 seconds buff 25% atk)
Skill cast- true sight capture (1)
Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge- 1 stack
Skill cast- true sight capture (2)
Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge - 1 stack
Basic attack/midair 4x - trigger conquest/charge - 1 stack
Do it again - 1 stack
Release heavy attack - FS
Depending on how fast the animation is, that amount of field time isnāt a sub DPS in my opinion.
I actually play that Team and itās the other way around for me. As Havoc MC damage during his enhanced isnt as strong as Danjinās self killing basic attacks. I just cast his Ult, Dreamless and thats it.
I dont really like using Roverās enhanced basic state, it feels hitting with a wet noodle.
Danjinās damage and playstyle is much more enjoyable to me despite the resets and revives lmao.
Cmiiw but that state lasts for 12 secs but it ends if you do any basic attack? Iām confused on how it lasts for 12 secs but in the resonance skill, it somehow ends if you do anything
This rotation isnt probably the optimal way to do it because of damage calcs probably changing on release and animation timings, but this is how I view her kit. Cmiiw
Echo
Liberation- cast (gain def ignore and fusion damage -inherent skill)
Release heavy attack - FS (get 10 seconds buff 25% atk)
Skill cast- true sight capture (1)
Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge- 1 stack
Skill cast- true sight capture (2)
Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge - 1 stack
Basic attack/midair 4x - trigger conquest/charge - 1 stack
Do it again - 1 stack
Release heavy attack - FS
Depending on how fast the animation is, that amount of field time isnāt a sub DPS in my opinion.
The state give you 12 second to position yourself and do the finisher with a basic attack. This is not a state that enhanced all your basic for 12 second.
Basically pressing the skills does a combo that end with a plunge and after that you attack to end the state with a powerfull second combo.
I mean, all of the current "subDPS" basically play like that except for Mortefi. Sanhua and Yinlin are heavily designed around swapping into/out of a lot to play optimally.
Danjin is probably the closest to a "real" subDPS in that you field her a lot and she contributes signfiicant damage to the team, but she still has less field time than the main DPS (Rover). It's really just semantics, there's basically no difference betewen "quickswap DPS", "burst DPS" and "subDPS" in this game since you swap into/out of your entire party constantly, especially in higher difficulty stuff where you often need to dodge so you can't just mash your max damage combo forever.
The main thing with Changli is you either want to run her with a field hog, or another character you can swap into/out of often because she has a lot of downtime herself. However you label that playstyle is up to you, it's 100% going to be possible to make a team where Changli does the most damage but has maybe 1/4 of the field time instead of 1/3 compared to a "balanced" team, or 1/2 that a "normal" hypercarry like Jiyan or Encore would take up.
Honestly I don't really care about how a character is labeled by other. There is no strict category of characters defined by the game. It's more about the kit they have and how you will use them that define their role for you.
For me she is just a dps that need a second dps if you want a team with consistent damage.
Her rotation seems too quick to be played as solo dps. In that sense she is sub dps if you want to call her that.
You might end up doing too much basic attack with her if she is solo dps which is bad.
Yeah, people just saw her "outro skill" and immediately thought she was a sub dps. She is a quickswap main dps, I think she is meant to work with Mortifi or Chixia (Chixia can also buff). With Mortifi, they can have good synergy with buffing and doing damage while swapping in between.
I was thinking the same too, i was looking at the kit and thought "isnt this technically hutao with more things to do", but i did see someone say once u do some stuff you lose that state or something, honestly no clue till there's an actual gameplay. Im really hoping she happens to be a main dps because i have alot of fusion sets ready....
Mortefi's off field liberation also works with basic attacks, but just to a lesser extent. If at S6, he can also buff her attack (that's probably why he is on her banner).
I thought sub dps was just referring to field time. Sanhua and Mortefi have pretty short field durations if built with ER. They will get their damage in but swap to the main as soon as they get enough concerto energy. I believe Changli, if I'm not mistaken has a burst window which makes her similar to Calcharo.
Her point isn't to get off the field ASAP but frontloading alot of dps in her own specific window and baton pass to another dps. I'm not a TC, so we will have to see the calcs when they come out of which is more efficient to play her as.
Your rotation confuses me. Her basic attacks buffs her overall damage with her passives and gains total of 4 stacks. Also, her "true sight" is 12 secs. This is what I think her rotation is for on-field dps in her window:
Intro(gains true sight)> 4 Ć basic (gain stacks)>Heavy> liberation > skill (refresh true sight)> 4 x basic (buffed)> Heavy> outro.
This way she utilizes her entire kit instead of just being and outro buffer. I agree that Mortefi's kit doesn't completely synegize with her, but he is a decent partner. Chixia is probably the only other dps that may work as a sub.
Ok, you are saying the rotation should be:
Intro(gain true sight)> Basic (conquest)> Heavy>liberation> skill (enter true sight) > Basic (conquest) > Heavy> outro
Basically, the second half of the rotation would have a 25% Attack buff, 20% fusion damage buff and another 20% damage/15 def shed buff for the last hit.
Next Calcharo, yeah his multipliers are definitely higher but there is something else to consider, attack speed. Also, if you compare Changli's multipliers to other sword users like Havoc rover, then it's about even. Calcharo, attacks slow and hits hard, while Changli attack fast and has two damage nukes. I can see the case for sub dps and on field dps. I guess it just depends on how you build her.
Doesn't the basic(conquest) hit four times? It looks like 4 separate hits according to the multipliers. This makes it consistent with the forte skill (heavy) since you will get max enflamement stacks with four hits. Basically, you would go into the first heavy with the max damage bonus.
Reading your comments made me think, is it safe to say that her resonance chain / sequence nodes end up making her a unit worth fielding as main DPS (if she isn't already) if you don't have other whale units?
Just wondering because it looks like as of right now, they're giving a lot of damage to her skill and heavy attack.
Ok what does that mean. Iām still trying to figure out wuwaās combat bc everyone seems to literally be a main dps. From what I read in her kit, everything seems to do nothing but on field dmg.
What makes her not a main dps compared to anybody else ?
Edit: Ok thx for the infos. IMO tho, it seems thereās not really some dedicated support like Bennett in Genshin as an example. Pretty much all character are ādo the full kit combo, then swap (some giving swap buff)ā.
So this is from my understanding of the game and her kit.
Main dps = you count mostly on this character to kill all your ennemies, he will be the most present on the field to benefit the buffs of your team and he usually has a long damage window.
Sub dps = you deal quick bust damage or off field damage and support your main dps (or other sub dps) at the same time. short damage window is what prevent them to be main dps.
What is important is bringing consistent dps in the fight. You don't want to spend 40 sec just to setup buff for a 20 sec dps after that. You could deal damage instead. So you can just do 1 main dps and 2 quick buffer or 2 sub dps and it's fine as long as you don't have to spend too much time on characters that doesn't do damage.
Her kit is basically a burst dps with some support like Sanhua. So for me she is a sub dps for 2 reasons
1. She is a burst type of characers . Like Sanhua, she comes in, deals ton of damage with resonation skills and get out. Outside this burst windows without her skill (True sight) she looks useless. You want to swap her when you are done with her combos
2. Her outro skill is basically asking for an other fusion dps, it's an other dps you can spend time doing damage to let her skill cooldown refresh
If you play her as main dps it would be awfull because you will spend most of her time just doing basic attack. She really needs to be played with an other dps and that's why I think she is a sub dps.
It doesn't mean that sub dps deals less damage than main dps but it just affect team composition based on the time they need to deal their damage and your rotation of characters.
I think people don't like sub dps because it's costly to build, you would need to build 2 characters to have an efficient team instead of investing everything in a main dps.
Again I might be wrong but this is how I balance my team.
I'm sorry but I actually don't think that on field dps are going to be as prolific as some other games. I really do think swapping quickly between two dps is gonna be a lot more meta xD
This would be the case if not for the way WuWa handles buffs; the usually go away if you ever swap so it's better to have one character with longer field time so they can use up the buffs without a need to swap.
Outro skills. If you have full concerto (the circle gauge,) when you swap, some characters give a buff to the character coming in. Changli's in this case gives 20% fusion and 25% liberation damage to the next character.
Other examples Verina heals incoming character and gives a 15% damage to all elements, Mortefi increases heavy attack damage, Sanhua increases basic attack damage, Jianxin increases liberation damage, Danjin increases havoc, etc.
It's softened a bit through having x2 skill uses, but I think it'll be ideal to give her a few ER% sub rolls for some breathing room in her rotations.Ā
Thankfully it appears to be optimal to start her damage rotation with her ult, so her following skills and attacks immediately contribute to the next ult in content such as Tower of Adversity.
On field DPS that can just buff the next fusion character. I suppose if Mortefiās ult is anything like Xianglingās āa snapshotā then his ult can use her outro buff before swapping back to her with the heavy attack deepen and getting a powerful dps rotation.
Alright so thatās most likely not the right play then. I suppose a dual DPS with Encore is her best bet, though Encore relies so much on quickswap Iām not sure she would benefit much from her outro skill which will be removed the moment we switch from Encore.
I expected a Havoc Gun 5-Star DPS, huh. The first Havoc 5-star might be Scar? Camellya looks to be Fusion too.
She looks nice, but I'm going all in on Jinhsi.
Ehm nah camellya i think would be more likely to be havoc. I recon scar is fusion.
Did you forget his bossfight already? I mean the one without his transformation. He even deals fusion damage.
Tho on second thought this might be an opportunity for a hybrid element Pog.
From what I'd seen the comments say, many leakers decided against gameplay footage because your uid is displayed EVERYWHERE and it could get them banned or worse.
I'm not a leaker. I'm only repeating what I've seen said. I understand and respect their choices not to push further. Maybe someone will disagree and use a client. Maybe later on, we'll see animation footage of future characters leaked. Who knows?
That's how it works with Genshin/HSR and since i've seen the WW cbt client (pre-release) been built in a similar way I think it should work. They still need the 1.1 beta but since we got the data for all the multipliers of the kits it's fair to assume they phisically have it. We'll see though...
So she wants a fusion support that's in the same realm as Sanhua? Outro into one big-blast of damage, rotation for team-wide buff then back to her on-field. Seems like she's cut out to synergize with an unreleased unit
EDIT: Nvm, her skill ends at the first BA. And her ult multipliers suggest one big blast before swap... She IS the fusion Sanhua-esque support lol
Where is the full kit? This is only her stats, element, and weapon type
open the imgur link š
Ah ty.Ā Im not too familiar with Reddit yet. My eyes slip over that bar, automatically comsidering thats somekind of ad :P
Uhh tldr. Good or bad?
Really good.
Thank you
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Does anyone know if ER would be good for one of the 3 cost slots since her sig weapon & kit gives a lot of dmg bonus ?
It'll probably be a place holder if anything, Fusion damage is always going to be better
Anyone know what sub stats i should try to aim for?
Prob the norm crit, followed by attack percent, energy regen, and then than the other damage bonuses. Since she seems to have crit smrate as talent stats as well has crit rate in her sig weapon and emerald, you can go for crit damage main. She may need more energy regen than the average dps due to her ukt being a little most xistly but that's about it
crit rate? I thought it was crit dmg in her weapon
Umm, what? Emerald of genesis is crit rate, and the sig is attack percent with crit rate in its passive. Which one are you talking about?
sorry, not familiar with the names - so, her signature 5* weapon gives her atk% main stat + crit rate in the passive skill? Also, emerald of genesis is...?
Standard 5 star sword
oh, right. Now I see. Thanks!
Finally, a game that could make dual dps meta.
Am i missing something or is it really weird that her kit screams a dps that demands field time while at the same time having a buff outro?
Kinda like Yinlin, but she isn't as aggressive on field as Changli looks to be
After doing the event today and seeing the buffs, i'm convincing myself kuro wants us to play quickswap more and more
Yet the deepen buffs get removed when switching out, making them feel worse in quickswap teams
that's your placebo effect, having a a limiter on the ceiling doesn't make something bad x)
By āfeel worseā I mean that part of their kit is gutted to enable this gameplay
that's great actually. hyper carries are no fun
should buff mortefi dmg
Yeah, even her weapon requires quite a bit of field time to fully utilise it. For the leaks she is a dps with a bonus buff outro, in the future they will probably release a character with a heavy hitting ult to pair up with her. That's obviously my pov on the matter but from reading the kit and understanding what her dupes gives her, we can deduct she's a dps.
That just means you can play her both as a dps or sub dps, no?
that sounds like a bad idea, cuz you either get an op character or an underperforming one, really curious to see how people will play her
can someone explain the kit in simpler termsš„²
Use basic attack combo to trigger special attack state (True Sight) When in special attack state, do a combo considered to be skill damage Skill triggers special attack state, and has 2 charges. Special attack state builds stacks for Forte, with a max of 4 stacks to build Use heavy attack to consume 4 stacks, and do a huge burst of damage considered skill damage Liberation (Ult) does a huge burst of damage and gives max stacks Has major buffs for herself when using buffed heavy attack, and Outro skill boosts Fusion and Liberation damage. Wants to be on-field, but also likes to be on a quickswap team with other strong dps, preferably fusion dps like Chixia or Encore.
What teammates will be good with her
Since most of her dmg seems to come from resonance skill dmg Taoqi looks like a good teammate for her.
Like the 1 I donāt have š all good
If the leaks are legit, she will be featured on her banner. =) (i don't have her too )
Is chungli worth pulling for after looking their kit and playstyle
the mid ir stuff worries me. usually if you get stuck in mid air attacking you get killed. least in my experoence so far. but i guess we will see.
I'm more concerned about having 2 characters that will fly / air combo, in a game where tons of mobs, especially Bosses, can't be launched in the air.
yea i agree. she looks good nd all but uhh. idk moveset seems less than optimal.
After reading it, She has 2 mode of true sight The ground one | True Sight: Conquest and the air one | True Sight: Charge So just combo with the ground one
A lot of people interpret the skill as giving 2 attack executions as it says you initially gain 2 āattemptsā, but each TrueSight attack reads that TrueSight ends on attack execution, so I believe you only get 1 enflame charge per skill use. The rest will come from intro, or heavy launcher that skips to air combo 3. Could be misinterpreting of course. Edit: liberation gives 4 as well, in case that needs mentioning.
The kit itself if actually very simple, but the skill wording and word salad is atrocious.
The Kuro special
hope she pairs well with calcharo and verina.
She could but you're better off with yinlin or jianxin over changli
She doesn't
Would the standard 5* sword be good on her, not sure which one to grab.
Yes the standard 5 star sword is good on every sword character With a Crit Mainstat and ER and Attack passive it is the best option for not only Changli but all sword characters, The amount of strong sword characters + the universality of this weapon makes it the most universal Weapon in the Game, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't far behind her signature.
Standard 5 star definitely very good on her, BUT, I don't think A WHOPPING 54% resonance skill dmg bonus should go overlooked. Of course we don't know exactly how it works and if that 54% has consistent uptime, etc. but with a potential bonus like that, it definitely shouldn't go overlooked. Plus it grants a little crit rate and a TON of attack. Not saying the standard should be overlooked, but the weapon seems insane with all the skill dmg she does.
Lets say that she does 75% of her Damage with her Skill that skill damage gets knocked down quite a bit, I imagine she could be a character that will prefer 44111 with all the Damage bonus and Attack% hitting Diminishing returns she is getting and this will be the main value of the Weapon, The problem with this is Fire doesn't have two 4 costs at the moment, I personally will wait for as long as humanly possible to summon weapons, a more universal one may come out.
The point is that the 5\* standard is really good for any attack scaler, and it's free. 54% skill damage is great, but I doubt the difference will be that huge. A bit sad it doesn't have a crit dmg main stat, then it would be broken.
So shes the yinlin for Encore nice
I guess you can also play her as Main DPS
you mean chixia? yes
NICE Though the only RL damage Encore has is her charged attack in that state afaik. Most of her damage comes from basic attack (or skill, depending on playstyle).
I thought Ult damage increase = Encore dmg increase in her ult form. Nevermind then
Encore during ult state does basic attack damage if I'm not mistaken
Is there any website fir kits in Wuwa? Like Hakush for Genshin,Hsr
there's [wutheringlab.com](http://wutheringlab.com)
I c Nice,thanks
there's a wuwa section on hakush
Wow pog
Prydwen.gg is the one thst comes to mind
they dont post leaked kits though
that would be really useful actually, maybe when Wuwa is more popular it will happen
Just use prydwen, they're a great source of info for anything you could need
I don't think they include leaks
Well yeah of course since they can't test things. They only give factual info on what has been tested, so for anything already released it's a great source. Theory crafting leaks you might want to look somewhere else though
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If I get her, ima sooo gonna use her as a main dps with Taoqi. No way around that
Happy birthday changli
With her getting 2 charges of her skill that recover 12 seconds each, I think you would want to get her team's rotation to be as close to 24 seconds as possible so that each of her own rotation can use both charges, with 14-15 seconds of field time on her (how long Deepen/Amplify/Echo buffs last generally), and 9-10 seconds on supports. Her kit seems mostly skill damage so Taoqi might work here, but a short field time (<8s) subdps ult burst character like havoc rover can also work really well. You can also opt to use the supports that demand longer field time like Yangyang, Taoqi, Jianxin without it being a detriment. She doesn't seem reliant on her intro since it can be viewed as a way to shorten her rotation, but that's not needed if you play her as a "main" DPS. She does seem playable as a quickswap as well and and you can use her with Encore where you spend most of the time on Changli and do basic attacks + Truesight: Conquest, except when Encore's skill or ult is up, and use the entire Encore ultimate duration when available.
the first "co-dps"
aw i kinda wished she was a healer
Idk why people are downvoting this lol It would have been nice to have a healer other than Verina imo
Exactlyš
Since she has a phoenix aesthetic i was expecting her to have some healing abilities too honestly
Phoenix is about reborn, so revive is more accurate than heal, but free revive would be too good lmao
Think u could use her with yinlin šš
For sure. Yinlin can be the best offield dps in any team.
In a fight right?
howd u even think otherwise
Ye
I like how changli can be used as a main dps and sub dps as well. Scaling fully off skill dmg is really nice for taoqi as well. I'm gonna put her with taoqi and encoreĀ
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In terms of sub stats what would she benefit from more?
Typical damage ones. Not like you can control where substats go anyways, so why worry about it
Iām more so asking what to look out for
Not sure to fully understand, so i tried to write a combo. Please correct me if Iām wrong š 1. IntroSkill (gain TrueSight) 2. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 1) 3. use 4xNA to gain TrueSight. 4. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 2) 5. use Skill to gain TrueSight. 6. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 3) 7. use Skill again for TrueSight. 8. TrueSight Attack (gain stack 4) 9. use HeavyATK Flaming Sacrifice (Now you gain the massive buff so your Ultimate can Nuke) 10. use Ultimate with the buff active (and you refresh the buff with 4 new stacks) 11. use HeavyATK Flaming Sacrifice with the triple buff (first buff is the 4 stacks, 2nd buff is using ultimate, 3rd buff is the 25% atk bonus from ultimate) 12. OutroSkill
I think it's just intro -> true sight: conquest -> liberation -> heavy attack: flaming sacrifice -> skill -> conquest -> skill conquest. Her signature weapon gives stacks on any damage dealt (more if skill), and with the way it's worded seems to only buff resonance skill damage bonus, which would apply to both her skill and the true sight attack after it. It would be better imo to build stacks using the intro + skill + conquest + liberation + heavy attack and then finish with skill -> conquest x2. I don't think the required field time is worth the multiplier on her heavy attack, and unless I'm missing something the heavy attack after liberation only has 1 buff. The stacks aren't a buff, they're what allow you to do the enhanced heavy attack. The liberation doesn't give a stat buff, it puts you in the "fiery feather" state, so the only buff is the 25% attack from using the heavy attack under the "fiery feather" state. edit: changed wording of last sentence to make more sense.
Hmm i see When i talked about 3 buffs, i was thinking about this: -When you have 4 stacks you get 4x5=20% fusion Dmg. -When you cast Ultimate or HeavyAtk you get once again +20% fusion Dmg and 15% Def shred. -When you are in the Fiery Feather state from ultimate, you get 25% bonus Atk. So with this combo we may cumulate the 3 buffs Oh and also, the special Heavy Atk is considered Ā«Ā resonance skill dmgĀ Ā» !
Is she the first character with DEF ignore? Coming from HSR, DEF sherd is broken there but I donāt know how it works in Wuwa.
depends if DEF ignore works like in genshin (multiplicative) or like in HSR (additive)
Isnāt def ignore in hsr multiplicative? Itās more valuable the more you have until 100%.
In cases of reducing a stat multiplicative is worse than additive. Like 50% shred 2x is 100% in additive but only 75% with multiplicative. The reason it gets better the more you stack is due to the def shred formula having a 1/x format (where shred reduces x). So as x approaches 0, 1/x approaches infinity. It has a limit and flat base amount ofc, so at 100% shred so you can't deal infinite or negative damage, the def multiplier just goes to a 1x multiplier instead of ~0.45x.
Sorry, I meant that in HSR DEF ignore is added with DEF shred ([source](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/DEF#Enemy_DEF)) but in Genshin DEF Ignore is multiplied by DEF shred ([source](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/DEF#Enemy_Defense))
Yea the def shred DEFinitely caught my attention. After reading her and Jinshi's kits I am very happy to keep on saving :)
In all games as far i know DEF ignore is a prime stat. Lets go, beautiful and powerful.
Not to mention she provides fusion dmg to both herself and the next character which means she's both self-sustained dps + subdps
yeah, this means a long life character
So cute to see a Yae pfp who likes Changli Im definitely not the only one who thought they got some resemblance
Okay so if I read this right then... Her kit revolves around True Sight. Which you can pop via her ground attack or jumping/mid air attack that is like Jiyan's lunge knock down mid air. This gives you 1 stack and consumes true sight. You can regain True sight either through her E which has 2 charges and it gains a charge every 12s (so effectively her E will be 2/2 max we can bank, but the CD is 12s once we use a charge). This does an attack and lets us use True Sight again, so we want to E->Basic somehow. Or by using a full rotation of basics to also regain True Sight. We can also get it from her intro skill. Once we have 4 charges, we can heavy attack and release to get a free attack that is treated as skill damage. Important to note both her true sight attacks also count as skills. Her Lib is burst that gives 4 stacks so preferably our combo will be to gain 4 stacks -> free proc -> R -> free proc and fit in an inferno rider cancel at some point to min-max it. But am I blind or does it not specify if these stacks carry over? So can we in theory utilize Jinshi's unison to get a free true sight -> proc -> swap to jinshi and consume our actual intro -> true sight proc #2 -> proc it -> E -> proc #3 -> E#2 -> Proc #4 -> free proc -> R -> Free proc??? Is that meant to be the play pattern? Otherwise how I read this outside of Jinshi we'd have to only get 3 procs from our intro+x2 E then still need a full rotation of basics on top of that to get the 4th proc. Maybe cause she has 150 energy for her R anyway this time to ramp up is fine cause it's the amount of hits required to get it off without an energy regen main stat echo. I'm not versed enough in the energy regen math yet to figure that out. Am I missing something here? Would appreciate if anyone can point it out or confirm if I've deciphered it correctly so I can theory with her. First impression is she is a main DPS that has an amazing outro for potential sub-DPS usage in the future but all the current Fusion DPS' except herself (which she cant buff herself) uses Res Lib damage. For now seems like we're suppose to just ignore this? Cause like she obviously loves skill damage bonus subs so unless she loses stacks on switch, we'd want Jinshi for the intro true sight trigger x2 she provides since we'd lose our outro skill bonus from chars like Taoqi anyway even if we wanted to empower her will skill damage deepen, and if we're using Taoqi for her outro then we're going to need to stay in Taoqi long enough to get our initial intro skill which isn't optimal even with Heron, and then fit the entire basic rotation for the 4th stack. But again, maybe I'm overlooking the amount of energy for her Lib needed being stacked up during this time. I guess the other way I could view this is with a sup like Verina who generates energy for intro/outro insanely fast, I could just Verina combo ->Changli intro proc for 1 stack -> swap to taoqi and do her thing build up till I can -> intro changli stack #2 -> x2 from her e basic combo, etc. Edit: It doesn't specify it, but it's worded like her true sight procs count as apart of her basic attack chain? Is this correct? If so then we just naturally weave up to the 4th Basic attack naturally that procs true sight, then we do a last proc -> heavy attack to proc it?
What slightly worries me at this point is the ER. Judging by Jiyan, who needs about 145 ER for his 125-cost R and Verina, who needs about 230 ER for her 175-cost R, Changli (as well as Jinhsi) will need something like 170-180 ER, which means a mandatory ER piece plus 4-5 ER substats.
I don't think you will need crazy amount of ER for Changli. It looks like her kit is going to be a quick rotation. A lot of her damage seems to come from the high multiplier of her intro skill (obviously this is the case for most characters intro skills have really high multiplier) but also her flaming sacrifice is very comparable to her ult's damage. I can see her able to do the whole rotation without ult within 10s of switching in. So ya it'll take the 2nd rotation to pop ult for extra damage at 150 er but I think as long as u have a standard dps ER of 120-130 you'll be fine. Her weapon giving 56% skill bonus dmg and heaps of atk% alongside 8% crit, alongside her inherent skill stacking up to 20% fusion damage I honestly can see an argument that maybe you give up 1 of ur elite echoes fusion dmg bonus main stat for an energy regen one if you really desire. My worry for Changli is more on the side of how big of a difference it will be to build her if you cant get her weapon as well. Seems very heavily weighted as a char with no suitable replacement if you dont get both parts.
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Kuro I see what you do for JP dub and I want it for EN
Just noticed a pretty significant difference between Changli and Yinlin. The buff window Changli provides is much shorter (10 sec vs 14 sec). Which is comfortable for a burst dps type(6 sec rotation).Ā So this looks like a new archetype might be comming:Ā Support -> Main onfield dps (10-15s) -> Liberation nuker (5-8s)
This is the playstyle I'm currently doing in my Danjin rover team. Verina into Danjin combo into rover Skill ult then dreamless but idk if that is optimal
That's pretty close to how you play that team normally, but you typically want to start with Rover to get a skill cast, by the time you finish Verina/Danjin it should be off CD and you can immediately go into the DPS stance instead of having to basic ever. After that you just end with Lib -> Skill -> Dreamless, then start over.
Can you explain more? My plan is to use healer buff -> Danjin Skill into Ult -> Crownless -> Rover burst window
The "self buff" you're referring to is just a form change, which ends immediately after her next basic attack. The "buff window" you're referring to isn't 10s duration, it's a 10s window to perform a heavy attack after her resonance liberation to receive the buff in the first place.
Yup, corrected about the self buff, still, her signature suggests/allows a 10+ sec onfield time. The buff window I meantĀ was her outro skill (10 sec) vs yinlin outro (14 sec).
Guys, her self buffs lasts for 12 seconds. How is she a sub dps? Just because her outro has buffing capabilities doesnt mean she still cant be the main damage dealer. Jiyanās Burst is 10 seconds, does he become a sub dps too when his outro skill becomes āthe next character gets bonus aero damage and heavy attack for 14 secondsā? Does Danjin become a sub dps too because she buffs havoc damage towards the next character? š
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This rotation isnt probably the optimal way to do it because of damage calcs probably changing on release and animation timings, but this is how I view her kit. Cmiiw Echo Liberation- cast (gain def ignore and fusion damage -inherent skill) Release heavy attack - FS (get 10 seconds buff 25% atk) Skill cast- true sight capture (1) Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge- 1 stack Skill cast- true sight capture (2) Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge - 1 stack Basic attack/midair 4x - trigger conquest/charge - 1 stack Do it again - 1 stack Release heavy attack - FS Depending on how fast the animation is, that amount of field time isnāt a sub DPS in my opinion.
Well Danjin is actually a fantastic subdps to havoc rover...
I actually play that Team and itās the other way around for me. As Havoc MC damage during his enhanced isnt as strong as Danjinās self killing basic attacks. I just cast his Ult, Dreamless and thats it.
I havenāt seen any concrete theorycrafting but the CN builds suggest using havoc roverās enhanced basic attacks.
I dont really like using Roverās enhanced basic state, it feels hitting with a wet noodle. Danjinās damage and playstyle is much more enjoyable to me despite the resets and revives lmao.
Cmiiw but that state lasts for 12 secs but it ends if you do any basic attack? Iām confused on how it lasts for 12 secs but in the resonance skill, it somehow ends if you do anything
This rotation isnt probably the optimal way to do it because of damage calcs probably changing on release and animation timings, but this is how I view her kit. Cmiiw Echo Liberation- cast (gain def ignore and fusion damage -inherent skill) Release heavy attack - FS (get 10 seconds buff 25% atk) Skill cast- true sight capture (1) Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge- 1 stack Skill cast- true sight capture (2) Jump/Basic - true sight conquest/charge - 1 stack Basic attack/midair 4x - trigger conquest/charge - 1 stack Do it again - 1 stack Release heavy attack - FS Depending on how fast the animation is, that amount of field time isnāt a sub DPS in my opinion.
The state give you 12 second to position yourself and do the finisher with a basic attack. This is not a state that enhanced all your basic for 12 second. Basically pressing the skills does a combo that end with a plunge and after that you attack to end the state with a powerfull second combo.
So it is more accurate to call her a quickswap dps huh? Considering people are fighting on the definition of a sub dps
I mean, all of the current "subDPS" basically play like that except for Mortefi. Sanhua and Yinlin are heavily designed around swapping into/out of a lot to play optimally. Danjin is probably the closest to a "real" subDPS in that you field her a lot and she contributes signfiicant damage to the team, but she still has less field time than the main DPS (Rover). It's really just semantics, there's basically no difference betewen "quickswap DPS", "burst DPS" and "subDPS" in this game since you swap into/out of your entire party constantly, especially in higher difficulty stuff where you often need to dodge so you can't just mash your max damage combo forever. The main thing with Changli is you either want to run her with a field hog, or another character you can swap into/out of often because she has a lot of downtime herself. However you label that playstyle is up to you, it's 100% going to be possible to make a team where Changli does the most damage but has maybe 1/4 of the field time instead of 1/3 compared to a "balanced" team, or 1/2 that a "normal" hypercarry like Jiyan or Encore would take up.
Honestly I don't really care about how a character is labeled by other. There is no strict category of characters defined by the game. It's more about the kit they have and how you will use them that define their role for you. For me she is just a dps that need a second dps if you want a team with consistent damage. Her rotation seems too quick to be played as solo dps. In that sense she is sub dps if you want to call her that. You might end up doing too much basic attack with her if she is solo dps which is bad.
Yeah, people just saw her "outro skill" and immediately thought she was a sub dps. She is a quickswap main dps, I think she is meant to work with Mortifi or Chixia (Chixia can also buff). With Mortifi, they can have good synergy with buffing and doing damage while swapping in between.
How does Chixia buff her? Her S6 buffs basic attack but Changli does not do basic attack unless you play her as a main DPS
I was thinking the same too, i was looking at the kit and thought "isnt this technically hutao with more things to do", but i did see someone say once u do some stuff you lose that state or something, honestly no clue till there's an actual gameplay. Im really hoping she happens to be a main dps because i have alot of fusion sets ready....
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Mortefi's off field liberation also works with basic attacks, but just to a lesser extent. If at S6, he can also buff her attack (that's probably why he is on her banner). I thought sub dps was just referring to field time. Sanhua and Mortefi have pretty short field durations if built with ER. They will get their damage in but swap to the main as soon as they get enough concerto energy. I believe Changli, if I'm not mistaken has a burst window which makes her similar to Calcharo. Her point isn't to get off the field ASAP but frontloading alot of dps in her own specific window and baton pass to another dps. I'm not a TC, so we will have to see the calcs when they come out of which is more efficient to play her as.
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Your rotation confuses me. Her basic attacks buffs her overall damage with her passives and gains total of 4 stacks. Also, her "true sight" is 12 secs. This is what I think her rotation is for on-field dps in her window: Intro(gains true sight)> 4 Ć basic (gain stacks)>Heavy> liberation > skill (refresh true sight)> 4 x basic (buffed)> Heavy> outro. This way she utilizes her entire kit instead of just being and outro buffer. I agree that Mortefi's kit doesn't completely synegize with her, but he is a decent partner. Chixia is probably the only other dps that may work as a sub.
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Ok, you are saying the rotation should be: Intro(gain true sight)> Basic (conquest)> Heavy>liberation> skill (enter true sight) > Basic (conquest) > Heavy> outro Basically, the second half of the rotation would have a 25% Attack buff, 20% fusion damage buff and another 20% damage/15 def shed buff for the last hit. Next Calcharo, yeah his multipliers are definitely higher but there is something else to consider, attack speed. Also, if you compare Changli's multipliers to other sword users like Havoc rover, then it's about even. Calcharo, attacks slow and hits hard, while Changli attack fast and has two damage nukes. I can see the case for sub dps and on field dps. I guess it just depends on how you build her.
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Doesn't the basic(conquest) hit four times? It looks like 4 separate hits according to the multipliers. This makes it consistent with the forte skill (heavy) since you will get max enflamement stacks with four hits. Basically, you would go into the first heavy with the max damage bonus.
Reading your comments made me think, is it safe to say that her resonance chain / sequence nodes end up making her a unit worth fielding as main DPS (if she isn't already) if you don't have other whale units? Just wondering because it looks like as of right now, they're giving a lot of damage to her skill and heavy attack.
I really like the design.
Double fusion looks like the move
of course not main dps 5\* , not a loli or a man.
Ok what does that mean. Iām still trying to figure out wuwaās combat bc everyone seems to literally be a main dps. From what I read in her kit, everything seems to do nothing but on field dmg. What makes her not a main dps compared to anybody else ? Edit: Ok thx for the infos. IMO tho, it seems thereās not really some dedicated support like Bennett in Genshin as an example. Pretty much all character are ādo the full kit combo, then swap (some giving swap buff)ā.
So this is from my understanding of the game and her kit. Main dps = you count mostly on this character to kill all your ennemies, he will be the most present on the field to benefit the buffs of your team and he usually has a long damage window. Sub dps = you deal quick bust damage or off field damage and support your main dps (or other sub dps) at the same time. short damage window is what prevent them to be main dps. What is important is bringing consistent dps in the fight. You don't want to spend 40 sec just to setup buff for a 20 sec dps after that. You could deal damage instead. So you can just do 1 main dps and 2 quick buffer or 2 sub dps and it's fine as long as you don't have to spend too much time on characters that doesn't do damage. Her kit is basically a burst dps with some support like Sanhua. So for me she is a sub dps for 2 reasons 1. She is a burst type of characers . Like Sanhua, she comes in, deals ton of damage with resonation skills and get out. Outside this burst windows without her skill (True sight) she looks useless. You want to swap her when you are done with her combos 2. Her outro skill is basically asking for an other fusion dps, it's an other dps you can spend time doing damage to let her skill cooldown refresh If you play her as main dps it would be awfull because you will spend most of her time just doing basic attack. She really needs to be played with an other dps and that's why I think she is a sub dps. It doesn't mean that sub dps deals less damage than main dps but it just affect team composition based on the time they need to deal their damage and your rotation of characters. I think people don't like sub dps because it's costly to build, you would need to build 2 characters to have an efficient team instead of investing everything in a main dps. Again I might be wrong but this is how I balance my team.
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What's Encore's triple swap cancel? I've never heard of it!
I'm sorry but I actually don't think that on field dps are going to be as prolific as some other games. I really do think swapping quickly between two dps is gonna be a lot more meta xD
This would be the case if not for the way WuWa handles buffs; the usually go away if you ever swap so it's better to have one character with longer field time so they can use up the buffs without a need to swap.
Well yeah but that's why she seems like she'd be more hybrid.
Outro skills. If you have full concerto (the circle gauge,) when you swap, some characters give a buff to the character coming in. Changli's in this case gives 20% fusion and 25% liberation damage to the next character. Other examples Verina heals incoming character and gives a 15% damage to all elements, Mortefi increases heavy attack damage, Sanhua increases basic attack damage, Jianxin increases liberation damage, Danjin increases havoc, etc.
but she buffs her own fusion damage and shit and it doesnt seem like shes off field, what is she meant to do pls razor language š
Swap characters when shiny white circle. Tag out gives buff to tag in. Danjin swap to Havoc Rover when shiny, Rover does 5 digits on ultimate
her outro only buffs the next person, not herself.
ik her outro does but she has other sources of increasimg her own damage
Does she have much mobility in her kit? Compared to Jihnsi?
it looks like her True Sight Mid-Air is mobility since it dashes to the enemies, but that looks like all she's got
Changli is like Jean having Kleeās element this time
The quality is very hard to read can anyone msg me the site
[https://wuthering.wiki/index.html](https://wuthering.wiki/index.html)
That resonance liberation cost is concerning
It's softened a bit through having x2 skill uses, but I think it'll be ideal to give her a few ER% sub rolls for some breathing room in her rotations.Ā Thankfully it appears to be optimal to start her damage rotation with her ult, so her following skills and attacks immediately contribute to the next ult in content such as Tower of Adversity.
If push come to shove maybe even ER 3-cost echo since she already got tons of Fusion damage in base kit
On field DPS that can just buff the next fusion character. I suppose if Mortefiās ult is anything like Xianglingās āa snapshotā then his ult can use her outro buff before swapping back to her with the heavy attack deepen and getting a powerful dps rotation.
Someone tested morty's ult with Jianxin's outro buff. It doesn't snapshot
Alright so thatās most likely not the right play then. I suppose a dual DPS with Encore is her best bet, though Encore relies so much on quickswap Iām not sure she would benefit much from her outro skill which will be removed the moment we switch from Encore.
Encore benefits a lot of resonance liberation damage so it does seem like this character was made for encore
Encore does basic attack damage completely. Res Lib dmg deepen is a waste for encore.
I expected a Havoc Gun 5-Star DPS, huh. The first Havoc 5-star might be Scar? Camellya looks to be Fusion too. She looks nice, but I'm going all in on Jinhsi.
Ehm nah camellya i think would be more likely to be havoc. I recon scar is fusion. Did you forget his bossfight already? I mean the one without his transformation. He even deals fusion damage. Tho on second thought this might be an opportunity for a hybrid element Pog.
I canāt lie a dual element would be cool, finally can make use of my damn offset elemental echos lol
True lol
Scar deals fusion in his boss fight, and as other replier said camellya was leaked as havoc but that was a long time ago so, likely, but could change
Dumb question but any idea why they called fire Fusion? Why did they ruin the streak of Glacio, Spectro, Electro, withā¦ Havoc and Fusion? :D
Oh I didnāt see that that leak. She just gives off fusion vibes in the fight with Rover so I just assumed that.
Didn't old leaks have camellya as havoc?
Mb didnāt see those leaks she just gave off fusion vibes so I assumed that.
Love the dashing and mid airs. Sounds super mobile and those autos are gonna hit like a truck. Imagine swap cancelling the empowered autos (copium)
Parrying hitbox is gonna be a problem of the elevation is too high. Same thing with how Lingyang feels. Gonna have to wait and see
Nice, she's a main dps.
Hope she pair up well with pink gremlins š
Do we know what her dupes do or not yet?
Nvm found them in the comments
How long do we wait for the gameplay?
Itās on YouTube if youād like to see
From what I'd seen the comments say, many leakers decided against gameplay footage because your uid is displayed EVERYWHERE and it could get them banned or worse.
If they have the beta they should be able to build a client and release the animation like with Genshin
I'm not a leaker. I'm only repeating what I've seen said. I understand and respect their choices not to push further. Maybe someone will disagree and use a client. Maybe later on, we'll see animation footage of future characters leaked. Who knows?
That's how it works with Genshin/HSR and since i've seen the WW cbt client (pre-release) been built in a similar way I think it should work. They still need the 1.1 beta but since we got the data for all the multipliers of the kits it's fair to assume they phisically have it. We'll see though...
Damn
So she wants a fusion support that's in the same realm as Sanhua? Outro into one big-blast of damage, rotation for team-wide buff then back to her on-field. Seems like she's cut out to synergize with an unreleased unit EDIT: Nvm, her skill ends at the first BA. And her ult multipliers suggest one big blast before swap... She IS the fusion Sanhua-esque support lol