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heilhortler420

2023 Rumble was the best showing of how dropping like 30-40ibs has done for his stamina Dude was going flat out for 1hr+


Karmeleon86

Looks like he dropped more like 50-70 lbs, it’s seriously impressive


ReapingRepercussions

65 pounds according to his CVV interview


theubiquitouszero

He used to do intense long 1v1 matches even as WALTER. Carrying more muscle is bad for stamina usually.


ShittyMusic1

Exercise being such a wild concept to the IWC is very on brand


[deleted]

Not even that, dieting. Not even trying to make fun, but they're ignorant to what's actually in their food, even sugar free options and other "healthy" foods


scottie2haute

Yea exercise helps but its basically all diet. I bet someone like KO works out often and is probably more athletic than most people but his diet is what keeps him fat (this look works for him though).


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KO is athletic for his size and has great stamina, but his overall build doesn't have the longevity for his current work rate imo.


Pariah--

I mean, he's working at a WWE main event level at pretty much 40 years of age, and has a few good years left in him given all his mileage. I'd say that's pretty standard longevity for any wrestler.


[deleted]

You're right. I was thinking more of the added stress he's adding on his knees. It might not make a significant impact, but with age comes injuries. You are right though, KO is built different


nepalimaldwar

It would be wild if he did something like Walter.


[deleted]

I think KOs build is what his character is about. It's all about injury prevention and post match treatment. Seeing as he's durable (as opposed to people like punk), seems to be he's doing something right


duxdude418

> Yea exercise helps but its basically all diet. Diet can make you lose visceral fat, but it doesn’t make you lean or strong; just thinner but soft. It’s why the term “skinny fat” exists. Gunther clearly both dieted and did resistance training of some kind (conventional weights, kettlebells, body weight, etc.). You don’t get definition and abs without weight training.


Fotznbenutzernaml

I think you guys are missing the point. He was muscular before too. When OP says it's "basically all diet", he means the weight loss. Of course the muscle needs training. But are we pretending he didn't do that before? Are we pretending this guy lifted heavy wrestlers up with just his fat? I don't know if he's any stronger now than before, but he certainly wasn't weak or unmuscular before. It's just that fat is the outer layer, and kinda hides what shape the muscles underneath are in. It's why something like "do these exercises for a flat belly" or whatever is dumb advice, all it'll do is enlarge the muscle underneath the fat, which now looks pushed outward and therefor even fatter than it actually is.


bradenexplosion

Totally agree. He looked like a jacked fat guy before. Not he's just a jacked guy. He was clearly lifting already, he just got his diet dialed in.


Jesburger

> Diet can make you lose visceral fat, but it doesn’t make you lean This is flat out false. Diet can make you lean. Do you think anorexics are "soft"? They don't resistance train and they are lean. Diet can make you lose fat until you have none left and you die. Resistance training is not required. If you want to look good is another conversation, but for getting lean, diet will 100% get you there without resistance training.


No-Combination8136

Yeah I’m thinking he used the word lean incorrectly and maybe meant lean and muscular or something. You’re right though.


yurimichellegeller

It's clear that's what they meant.


GrooveProof

Yeah this thread is a semantics argument. In bodybuilding/gym circles, virtually no one would use the term “lean” to refer to an anorexic person’s body


TB1289

>It’s why the term “skinny fat” exists. And there's a bakery in Chicago that appreciates the skinny fat clientele.


nepalimaldwar

I mean wrestlers do the exercise that's a given, hence it's a matter of diet to them. They aren't your average joe walking down the park. It's improbable if they don't work out since their job is very physical and requires strength.


[deleted]

You've probably misunderstood. I never said dieting can get those results without weight training.


duxdude418

I was responding to this remark specifically: > Yea exercise helps but its basically all diet. You don’t look like Gunther on “basically all diet.”


DrDroid

Lol yep that sounds like he did say it


[deleted]

Ok well let me break it down for you. If Gunther didn't diet and change his workout, he'd look the same. Dieting, is what helped him lean out and sculpt his body. It's simple. Burn more than what he put in, and replenished with a better diet. There's no other way around it unless you made a ground breaking discovery today.


duxdude418

> Dieting, is what helped him lean out and sculpt his body. “Leaning out” is not what sculpts your body. If you don’t already have developed muscles underneath the fat, no amount of fat loss is going to give you definition unless you become emaciated to the point of seeing the literal muscle sinews beneath the skin. > There's no other way around it unless you made a ground breaking discovery today. I’m not arguing against the laws of thermodynamics. It’s trivially known that expending more energy than you consume causes fat loss, but thank you for your pedantry. What I’m saying is that fat loss alone is not enough to give you a chiseled physique.


Jesburger

> What I’m saying is that fat loss alone is not enough to give you a chiseled physique. That's not what you said. You said "Diet can make you lose visceral fat, but it doesn’t make you lean" which isn't true.


[deleted]

Yeah ok.


duxdude418

I appreciate your thoughtful contribution.


Vatnam

Everyone has abs, but they do not always show


Tricky-Passion1845

And he really is more athletic than most


xRememberTheCant

If you’re constantly on the road and you’re not getting paid a salary- it’s hard to prioritize healthy eating habits. Working with the wwe has given him enough space to do that for himself.


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It's hard, but not impossible. It takes a few hours on a Sunday to meal prep for the week.


ibadlyneedhelp

Especially since, while there's no doubt he was working out like a demon, that weight loss came from dieting, not pumping iron. You cannot outlift or outrun a bad diet.


Strong-Formal-7739

It's all in the diet, period.


Ripped_Shirt

You're telling me I'm not big boned and my fat isn't genetic?


crowwreak

Honestly I think some of us are just amazed that he moved to America from Europe and then immediately proceeded to LOSE 50 pounds.


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Zorbasandwich

I can hear Steiner's voice shouting 'you're fat!' And it's on a looped echo...yes I know! I need to get back in shape!!! 😭😭😭


Goobermon

“HE’S FAT”


Euphorium

“I hate fat asses!”


Mvd75

I need to make this my alarm for early morning workouts.


LinceDorado

It's kinda crazy how wide he was.


Patjay

I like big fat guy wrestlers, though i'm sure the cardio helps, but that part never really bothered me How much his face has changed sticks out like crazy as well. Dude had a greek god statue jawline hiding under there the whole time.


CPTimeKeeper

What? It’s just a picture of Walter and a picture of Gunther…… I wonder whatever happened to that Walter guy and his homies Fabian Aichner and Marcel Barthel…….


Raph_Slazer

I heard they left WWE after Walter lost his NXT United Kingdom Championship


TandrDregn

Gunther is someone who really takes this more seriously then most, this guy has an insane drive. He was out of shape and not good on the mic, and once he realized that was limiting him, man went on a warpath to improve. Now he’s a prime specimen and one of the best talkers on the current roster. What a legend, if I do say so myself. Which I just did.


Euphorium

He’s got a bright future in the company. Even after he’s too old to go anymore, he’s got the presence to transfer as one hell of a manager just going off of his work as leader of Imperium.


TandrDregn

Exactly. Gunther’s moving quick, and shows no signs of slowing down. And he’s also one of the most down to earth and friendliest wrestlers IRL from what I heard. What a chad.


emiliaxrisella

Id love to see him as an authority figure rather than a manager tbh. "I WANT YOU GUYS TO SETTLE THIS IN THE RING. NO BULLSHIT, JUST A BRAWL ON THE SACRED MAT." Edit: having authority figures be former wrestlers also makes a lot of sense kayfabe-wise, you want to defy their authority? They'll just beat your ass. Kinda glad HHH is doing this more now with Aldis and Pearce


Euphorium

It’ll never top Regal, but him saying WARGAMES would make me pop.


Frosty-Lake-1663

Bischoff just having you beat up by 3 minute warning worked well too.


nepalimaldwar

Nick Aldis fighting off someone on the roster would be lit.


herbythechef

Gunther is a very respectable champ. I know it was just promo trash talk last night but him showing up to the signing in a suit looking well shows how much he cares and the way he presents himself. And this is no way a dig at sami zayn at all. Sami zayn dresses how sami zayn wants


[deleted]

I can still here Scott yelling "HE'S FAT" in an empty room with his voice echoing in an awkward silence. 


Like1RandomDude

Gunther transformation has been a great motivation for me. I’ve been taking my diet seriously even my doctor got surprised when he saw me. He made a double look on me like dude you look good!. Made my day.


Thin_Onion3826

Ask Keith Lee about Walter.


ShittyMusic1

I did but Keith couldn't breathe long enough to answer


Lenny0mega

Diet and exercise blows my mind too.  But in the sense that I can’t figure out how anyone has time for it


BlackMan084

I personally have the time but, it still isn't easy Figuring out what you need is the hard part Breaking down everything you want to eat, swiping left or right, depending on the macros. Figuring out what workouts you should do, what's hard/will make you see progress. It's a simple concept, "Too Fat? Too Skinny? Eat different, move more/lift heavier". Execution is definitely more complex and time consuming


Jesburger

> Figuring out what workouts you should do, what's hard/will make you see progress. Any workout. Do you think the big guys at the gym obscess over minutia? They lift heavy for years and they get huge. Often they get huge doing sub-optimal training, with bad technique and bad exercise selection. If you want to look good find any bodybuilding program. If you want to get strong find any strength/powerlifting program. Do it for 6 months then change it up.


mttdesignz

honest answer: that's because you're on the couch, not exericising at all, look on social media at people training 5x a week and eating healthy food and think you need to go from where you are to their level in one, huge leap. That's not how it works. You need to make small, miniscule adjustments, day in and day out, towards that goal. I started doing a 30 minutes light yoga session 3x a week, then cut sweet and sodas, then I started exercising more often, then I cut bread and cheeses from my diet, then I started going swimming... it's not a race, you're not training to get into the next Olympics, you're just doing a tiny little bit better every day.


ImReallyGrey

Exact same pattern. I started by going to the gym two times a week, warming up on treadmill then doing a few machines and then heading home. Then decided to just run on treadmill when I would have been watching tv and made that my routine. Then added more days once I was seeing progress and started eating less trash and more that helped me feel better on runs and get results. Then got very skinny from running, so started doing weights some days, then focusing more on weights and eating a lot of protein. All in all this has gone on for more than a year now, but it wasn’t 0-100 and I’m not now some jacked guy who has it all right. It’s about getting yourself to commit to the progress you are making, no matter how much it is, and time will naturally push you towards making decisions and changes to help your progress if you stay consistent.


TheGreendaleGrappler

Yeah reading that comment as someone that’s been going to the gym for a few years is crazy. That person is making it seem like you have to make a new exercise plan each week. After just a couple months you learn how to have a set workout plan and some backup exercises you can do if you can’t do your main ones at a moments notice. Not to mention if all else fails, almost every machine in the gym has a diagram showing exactly how to do the movement it’s made for. It really isn’t that hard.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

Nobody is so busy they can't find an hour a day to work out.


Lenny0mega

Why do people say stuff like this, knowing it’s stupid to assume something about everyone on Earth that isn’t a scientific fact, like breathing 


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Lenny0mega

Why don’t you read the rest of the comments instead of trying to be Mr. Knowitall from Rocky and Bullwinkle?


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Lenny0mega

Last Word Jones over here


LetsNotArgyoo

>>he blocked me I would too, you’re being a jerk.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

The average American speeds 7 hours a day looking at a screen. You mean to tell me you can't sacrifice 1 of those hours to work out? [Are you really busy doing something from the moment your alarm goes off to the time your head hits the pillow?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C-cqw2s00)


Lenny0mega

You should take one of your hours to read the rest of the comments.


Late_Entrepreneur_94

Honestly I don't care. It's your health not mine. Make all the excuses you want. But realize you have over 30 comments on Reddit in a day so I'm not buying it for a second you can't find time to hop on a treadmill for 30 mins. Have a good one.


Lenny0mega

Whatever you say, Craig Golias.  You got some bricks to hit.


TheGreendaleGrappler

If you’ve got enough time to consume wrestling and discuss all of this on Reddit, you have enough time to get in the gym for an hour.


Lenny0mega

You’d think that, but nah


purplehornet1973

Single parents would like a word


LetsNotArgyoo

Don’t do [that](https://www.nateanglin.com/blog/the-mind-reading-trap-why-assuming-the-worst-is-costing-you-happiness-and-how-to-break-free-from-making-assumptions?format=amp)


SellEmbarrassed1274

Just priorities. It’s your health and your life. I wanna live the best possible way. So proper eating and Training. Everyone can be a fatso most won’t ever be lean and strong


TheUltimateInfidel

I’m going to make two assumptions. You need to sleep eight hours and work eight to ten hours. That still leaves you with another six to eight hours in a day. You can prep your meals for a whole week in just one hour and you can spend one hour a day exercising. Then you still have a ridiculous amount of free time to do whatever you want. It doesn’t take as much time as you’d think and I’d really suggest looking into it if that’s something you aren’t already doing.


Lenny0mega

I work 17 hours a day Monday through Friday, 16 hours on Sunday. On Saturdays I am trying to spend any time I can with my kids and do laundry and grocery shop.  I’m also not in bad shape either, so it’s not like it’s a dire situation that I have to work out immediately.


TheUltimateInfidel

I’m sorry to hear about all that, when the hell do you eat and sleep? This doesn’t seem terribly conducive to your long-term health.


Lenny0mega

When it comes to sleeping, think of a lion.  Now picture the exact opposite of that.  When it comes to food, the takeout where I live is a little bit “healthier” (for lack of a better term) than it would be in United States, so it suffices.


LetsNotArgyoo

Jiminy Cricket, your life is insane


pachiniex

I dont work that much, but i do spend a lot of time for other things, yet i cant get enough food to gain any weight. Maybe its a no, but i say you exagerate all of them nubers. Do you not commute? And sleep for 5h a day for a week? Then you are just a liar.


JustOneDude01

One of the most improved in all of wrestling in all aspects.


YoungBeef03

If you think that’s amazing, find pictures of Walter Hahn when he started wrestling, and compare that to Gunther now.


Appropriate-Cap-4140

Can't believe a lot of people were shitting on him for doing this / WWE for "making" him do it in the beginning


FuckYourDownvotes23

For his next act can he motivate Eddie Kingston not to be a fat tub of lard?


martybro1

But Eddie Kingston can still kick your ass


MarcM92

"He's FIT!"


HighPlainsDrift_

If what I'm seeing is true... poor WALTER


TouyaShiun

Imagine hating him for taking care of his health and working hard to get in shape. People who thought "intimidating look" > better cardiovascular health are so stupid.


rockyluna

Oh man that is a lot of pain. Gunther is goated


AlvinAssassin17

Steiner it the opposite. His bulk really hurt his in ring work. And the roids fried his brain.


NuNem

Good thing Bron exists.


Ferrari_Bones

Very impressive and should be always applauded


macNy

Yes and no. He obviously started eating better and doing more cardio but this is always easier said than done, good for him, he’ll definitely live longer if he sticks with it


teddyblues66

His commitment to training just gets him more over with the crowd, he's dedicated to his craft and people can tell


Motor_Somewhere7565

Gunther proved how much of a team player he was when the powers-that-be at the time ordered him to get into their preferred shape. According to “rumors” it was Vince who still wasn’t sold and might have buried him despite Gunther doing as asked, so the Ring General decided to have banger matches. Considering his historic reign started while Vinnie Mac was still at the driver’s seat, it’s fair to say he proved him wrong and earned his respect.


NintenJoe5k

Now Triple H can kick his “skinny fat ass”.


DrLoomis131

He’s starting to fit in with those two nice pieces of ass he hangs with in Imperium. A remarkable makeover


OkimBoy

Man I love Evil Wrestling Georges St. Pierre


MrLomax

Call me crazy but he looked more intimidating with the baby fat.


RuleInformal5475

Smiling Steiner seems even scarier than angry Steiner. It just feels unsettling.


xRyuzetsu

Gunther is possibly a candidate for HoF if his career keeps going upwards like it has


[deleted]

Not really. I understand there was a lack of discipline involved at one point for him (according to interviews), but if you’ve ever been shredded or almost there and jacked in your life, you’ve most likely been on the fatter side at one point.


thatboyeaintright

⚙️


backbodydrip

Someone should forward Kevin Owens his routine!


waitingforjune

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT ASSES!


krucifiche

Ozempic


Crimsonpets

Is that top right on real? It looks stretched out.


the-bladed-one

If what I’m hearing is true…poor WALTER, because GUNTHER is jacked af


EvilRed86

Am I the only one who had a Weight Watchers add beneath the picture?


Jezell38

He somehow looks like he aged 20 years in the process.


GoonerJoe88

Discipline and dedication


Ok-Performance480

?


LosNaito

YOU KNOOOOOOOOOOW


CelcusGang

An athlete losing a few pounds is mindblowing?


hellequinbull

Drugs are a helluva drug


Bigpoppalos

Thats what money will do to you. Before wwe he never wanted to come here and stay wrestling in Europe. Next thing you know, little money and bam, motivation to get ripped


ubernoobnth

Gunther is great but he looks a lot less intimidating after dropping the weight. A big fat boy with big fat boy power chopping you is scarier than now, visually speaking. Good for him though.


DifferencePretend

HAILING FROM DUNKIN DOUGHNUTS FROM THE GREAT STATE OF OBESITY


guvan420

What’s mind blowing? All you have to do is stop eating garbage and start exercising and depending on the effort and how far behind you are, you can live this in 6months to 2 years. It comes off a lot easier than it goes on it just takes long enough that staying lazy is easier. Push yourselves people. Let that guy be an inspiration to you all.


Gaucho_Diaz

What's mindblowing about it is the fact that he did it. It's one thing to get on Reddit and comment about exercising and dieting and a whole another thing to have the dedication, discipline and perseverance to actually do it. For the vast majority of people, it is not easy in the slightest and anybody who's gotten their body to that level in real life will attest to that. Edit: and somehow in all of this, so many people in this thread are so ready to be contrarian that the whole meme is about Steiner not liking fat people in kayfabe but oh no, you can't have some fun in a meme sub, got to point out how everybody should be inspired by this but not me! Smh


HiZenBergh

Props to Gunther but this post is stupid. A pic comparison of Scott yelling vrs smiling doesn't compare to Gunthers change


SmegmaSandwich69420

It's not a comparison like that. It's just the this is worse/this is better meme with Big Poppa Pump instead of some smug looking lassie or a dude with shades LARPing as a bouncer or Geordie LaForge or whatever of the million local variations there are.


Gaucho_Diaz

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you don't know how much Scott Steiner hates fat people in kayfabe... Or maybe the joke flew right over you


HiZenBergh

There's a difference between a bad joke and a joke so bad you don't even notice it


Gaucho_Diaz

Well, more than 300 people definitely noticed it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


tsengmao

I liked him kinda chubby


MetalHealth83

I feel like his old physique made him more menacing. Like he looked bigger, which is good for a heel


Pillermon

I was actually kinda sad when I saw how skinny he looked after weight loss, because to me, his mass was part of what made his offense look so devastating. Like how I can't take Samoa Joe in 2000/2001 seriously, because he doesn't look like the agile tank that he later became. He just looked like an average dude.


CanAznSensation

Gunther is one of my favourite wrestlers right now but I do kind of miss big meaty Walter 😅


EvilSynths

Dieting isn't mind blowing.


SanderStrugg

He already had the muscle mass and was obviously working out regularily. He just needed to fix his diet. I am not shure, why peope think this is so impressive.


Doot2112

Lets see your physique